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Can you recommend some?

With BNB, LTC, USDT (BEP20) payment options?

I have been using livecasino.io for over a year now and I have been able to withdraw coins on the casino without no KYC. You can make use of the site.

Also you can use Metawin.com.

There was a similar but kind of different topic recently, you can read what people posted there also. Looking for no-KYC casino recommendations to bet on cricket (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5514031.msg64655628#msg64655628)

Check out this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0
It contains a list of casinos with info on whether they request for kyc or not, you can also read their terms for the exact amount that triggers the requirement to submit documents.

You won't have trouble with kyc on most casinos here on the forum if you're withdrawing below $2,000 to $3,000, but always do your research before depositing and bear in mind that casinos always reserve the rights to request for kyc at any time.

Two lists has been given to you already but it’s worth keeping at the back of your mind that a casino can decide to ask for your documents even when those thresholds have not been reached, so the fact that they have a $2,000 maximum before kyc doesn’t mean that they’ll turn a blind eye on an account that’s being suspected of being involved in an unusual activity.

But if you’re not the type that would engage in anything suspicious then those lists above should help you get what you’re looking for.

To be honest I have been using this platform stake.com for a long time without any KYC verification.  I have made a maximum deposit of $600+ here together and withdraw again after playing the casino. they didn't stop me for that.  You will find many casino sites that will not demand kyc verification from you up to a certain amount. But if you exceed that limit then of course they will demand kyc from you to avoid anti money laundering issue. Because many people try to launder money using casino sites.

You can see this topic mentioned by Upgrade00. many casino sites are detailed here

Try go through the site lists again, there are some gambling sites on this forum that are not listed. I can mention three that I know of right now that are not listed there. I hope the OP of the thread will edit the thread. I did not see Metawin also.

Are you sure about this? Stake require KYC is all that I know. I am using the gambling site also and I have no problem using the site but it did requested for KYC when I registered even before I was able to deposit.

No, and will never find it.

In centralized casinos website register, they cleary stated can ask you KYC anytime. Meaning, you will be ask for KYC in some condition and by the way some member in here could be sharing his experience withdraw without (KYC) doesn't mean you will have same situation and experience.

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If you want these scheme, you should gambling with on-chain transaction meaning the bet you are made are using transaction without any register account and everything is based smart contract (that's why is called on chain transaction). The problem, have limited gambling or game mostly are:
- Dice on-chain
- Jackpot
- Lottery
- Guess last number hash

Plus, to inconvenient cause you need to make on chain transaction each time you bet (spending some fee for gas/fee transaction).

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In the end, don't believe it any casino claiming no (KYC) cause never existence they have T&C + AML/KYC + License and they required those.

Well, aside Metawin and Livecasino as recommended by Oshosondy, I don't think there is actually any other top casino in this same rank that I can trust to be kyc free, even this two casino that were recommended has never been tested by me, though I have an account on Livecasino for sure, but I have never played there, or read their terms to really be sure they are kyc free.

What I did say is that, right now, it has become a kind of difficult to really find a big and well known casino that is kyc free, most kyc free casinos are those just coming up which can't be really trusted since they have no track record.
But all the same, I will just have to wish you luck in your search, maybe try the ones Oshosondy recommended, perhaps, any of that can be exactly what you are looking for.

Its more better to see that Op give a try on the ones suggested to him and conform everything that had been said of them to be the same, this is just for him to have a test run and be rest assured, while doing this, he can also make use of the platform he find more interesting to at least start from small amount, though there are other platforms as well when you check from time here on bitcointalk, you may discover more.

Sportsbet.io and Livecasino are very good and they dont charge any withdrawal fees for most coins, so I can only recommend them.
I used few other smaller casinos that dont have any kyc, l0tt0.com is one of them, but most casinos can always ask you to verify if you try to withdraw big amounts.
It is best to read terms of every casino before you sign up and send them your coins.

You will have to check which of the casinos that do not have a strict KYC policy accepts these different currencies, but you should have little trouble as they are commonly accepted.

Livecasino and Sportsbet are two casinos that I will recommend for privacy and have been recommended by other users too already.

- Jay -

The thing is, there likely will be alot of casino, (some we may know, while most; we don't know) that may be kyc-free, but the truth of the matter is that, there is actually no guarantees since it's centralized casinos we talking about here, they can actually wake up one morning and decide to change their terms, and move from kyc-free to becoming kyc compliant.

And another fact worthy of note is that, some of this casinos may likely have daily withdrawal thresholds, which if reached, the player withdrawing funds may be required to pass kyc, like some casino will allow withdrawal from $1 to $9,999 to be processed without triggering the kyc system, but upon withdrawal of $10,000 and above, the system automatically put the request on hold and ask that the user complete kyc before the transaction can be processed; this is also another angle to look at as well.

It wasn't meant to be a comprehensive list containing all casinos with presence on the forum, just a list that covers the level of privacy the different exchanges offer

You can of course commen casinos that you'll like to see added and it can be edited into the original list.

First thing first, as long as you are gambling on a centralised casino, you should be ready to hand out your documents for verification any time you are asked to do so, and to see a cryptocurrency casino with centralised status that gives you total KYC free withdrawal on any amount is somewhat rear and hard to see, unless if you want to continue gambling below the casino trenchhoold because majority's of the centralised casinos have the benchmark of $5000+ as their benchmark for KYC demands on both withdrawals and deposits, you as a gambler can decide to operate with bellow that limits to keep your account free from being ask for KYC.
Unless you want to go on a decentralised casino who are totally KYC free, that way you can be rest assured that you won't be bordered with KYC at any point in time, but anything other than that will result into you relying on semi decentralised cryptocurrency casino, semi decentralised in the sense that, their are centralised casinos but not to hard about KYC and that way many players mistakes them for as none KYC casino, whereas in the rules and terms of service is included that when you deposits certain amount or  you win certain amount, you will be demanded to go through KYC.

Not because I'm participating in the signature campaign but I can suggest Shuffle, I've been playing for a while, made many deposits and some withdrawals without being asked for KYC.
There are some other casinos to try ofc but what you should aware is that most casino has KYC terms so you should be ready to complete KYC because the casino may ask you to do it anytime.
Stake was great choice for you but it seems that it is not suitable for you because KYC is mandatory now (will be officially started next year) but all users have been asked to do KYC some time ago.

I have not even seen a decentralized gambling sites before. I have only heard of them before they they existed when bitcoin was first created but I thought that they may be centralized also but not requiring KYC.

A casino that is not having KYC or not make KYC mandatory but you are sending your coins to the gambling site address which is the address given you on your account, such casino are also still completely centralized.

The gambling sites that I can say are not totally centralized now are the web3 casinos like Metawin but they can also request users to get verified. But if you do not win more than $10000 to withdraw on Metawin and if you coins is not connected to money laundering and something illegal, KYC will not be demanded.

There is a long list of casino sites that do not ask you for KYC when withdrawing... Because I myself have played at many casinos on the forum not with KYC verification so all withdrawals are smooth without the need for any documents.

Maybe you can visit Shuffle.com or Stake.com or others because they have many deposit/withdrawal options that you mentioned.

But remember that the casino has any policy about AML KYC, even if you make a big withdrawal I'm sure the casino will ask you for documents... but if it's a small amount you'll be fine without KYC.

Stake.com has recently started enforcing KYC for all the accounts. Now the users need to complete KYC before the year ends in order to use their Stake.com accounts. So I think we cannot suggest Stake in the category of casinos that don’t ask for KYC.
You need to understand OP that casinos that ask for KYC have a license, and all the legit casinos go for a license. If someone is not asking for KYC, then there’s a high probability that they are not legit. If you are willing to take the risk, then definitely give it a try. Upgrade00 has given you the best thread for reference. Use that to find the ideal casino.

Without KYC u played the game by depositing over 600$ and after playing the game you got your money backed no problem. You must have a good point for them because they didn't harassment a user for 600$ and without KYC.

Any money transaction without doing KYC is now considered a scam by everyone. But on the other hand you get the maximum amount of benefits by using stake.com. Now I would like to know from you whether it is still the same as before, without KYC, transactions can still be done there or now they have given new KYC restrictions? Can I deposit now without KYC if I want to play the game? Be sure about this matter.

It is true that I received a notice a few days ago about Stake,com that will enforce KYC before the end of the current year so that all features can be enjoyed.
For those who bet frequently and they usually will receive a $50 gift after passing KYC lvl 2 and this is an offer from stake,com directly sent via gmail.

No one can guarantee that just because a casino hasn't asked them to undergo identity verification that they won't ask you either. Each case is different. Online casinos have systems in place that can notify the staff if something out of the ordinary is happening. Such systems can be triggered from the way you play, by your location, by comparing your gameplay to other players, and other things. I have been on Sportsbet.io for years and I haven't done KYC. I also have accounts on Playgram and Blackjack.Fun and it's the same there. 

Hey,

These ones: https://top69cryptocasinos.com/no-kyc-crypto-casinos/

https://l0tt0.com/ accepts Litecoin payments and is a no KYC casino.

This is true, no casino is 100 KYC free in their rules but I think that we can suggest him non-KYC casinos based on experience that some websites put down for years. For example, Freebitco.in has never asked for KYC documents as far as I know but I don't suggest OP to play there because of many problems that they face these days. Btw I can suggest Bustabit and Bustadice, I've never heard anyone getting asked for KYC from these websites but they lack the currencies that OP is looking for.

Let me make this simple for you op. Every centralised gambling site out there(FIAT and Crypto) can request KYC at any point for various reasons using the TOS to justify their reasoning.

They can request it for low or huge amounts. For example, BC.Game requested KYC from me for 20 bucks which is bizarre and hilarious. Only decentralised gambling sites won't ever request any form of KYC based on what I observed.

KYC is good for someone to have done, but I know quite well that KYC do help but I don't know the reason why some persons doesn't want to have done their KYC verification to any gambling websites,  they gamble with, if Stake.com will enforce all the accounts in their sites to have done KYC I think it will be better and good gamblers, but concerning what op is saying, I don't think that op is making reference to KYC to accounts, is pointing at a particular coin that can be use to gamble that requires KYC, generally KYC is done because of accounts  or website for security purposes not for particular coins someone uses in gambling.

From my little experience of gambling, I can say, all casinos can ask you for KYC document if you suddenly win a huge amount of money and then try to withdraw the entire sum. Like DEX, we don't yet have a Decentralized casino which can ensure complete anonymity.

If you find any such casinos, please let us know as well. Highly likely they have some shady background. If you are planning to play with small amount of money, then usually you should not face any kyc related issues..

I am aware of only 2 casinos that do not ask about KYC, Betcoin and nitrobetting, these two are the OGs and are very well reputed in the community. I haven't seen any issues with both of these, being using them from years at this point. Stake is another option but I am not sure if they ask for KYC to withdraw, haven't used it that much. You should be fine with the first two options :)

Metawin web3, up to 25 ETH you wont be asked for KYC.

There is no guarantee that when withdrawing funds, you will not be required to pass verification. I think that the amount you decide to withdraw will be the deciding factor here. And the more this amount is, the higher the chances that you will have to go through KYC.

BNB, LTC, USDT Bep20 payments are common in some casinos even I call it almost all casinos that are here provide these coin payments and now it's just for you to choose which casino of your choice that some people recommend.

You don't have to be afraid, some people who recommend their casinos have had a lot of experience with casinos for a long time so they recommend them even though each case is always different.

Because until now many casinos do not need KYC when you make a withdrawal, so you need to try it.

Should I say you're lucky? I have been using Livecasino too and i submitted my KYC documents on demand about two years ago. It was a seamless process though. However, I think that it is not their go to to ask for KYC from users although they can ask from users at anytime if they have some reasons to but it isn't a must before or upon sign up as a condition for using them.

I use my ISPN IP for the connection always. Probably you might have used a VPN with IP from a banned location. Did you do that? The exchanges and gambling sites that I have used that request for KYC documents from me is because of this reason. Or if I may ask. Why do Livecasino requested for KYC documents from you? Or they just suddenly requested for it without any reason?

Bro what do u talking about ?

All of your casino is being mentioned is "KYC" read the term & condition. All of them, stated can demands you to verify your self. As I said before, no and never will because in term & condition is always stated (casino have some right/demand verify/KYC in some condition).

Plus, If you can play without KYC doesn't mean you are not getting ask (Just like I explained in the beginning). Always read in term & condition, not based experience for these topic (it's just like contract).

Freebitco yes, they did changed that terms (kyc added for some extent) just last year, and the site started to get dump by its users. But bustabit as well as bustadice didn't, and probably will never as it stay the same since the introduction of the site unlike freebitco who introduces different features, its tokens, etc.

Some gamblers cares about their privacy in gambling and will want to maintain this to any left, just as we all know that leaving your information with online platforms may not be secured, and it makes no difference from filling out for a kyc verification.

We may not have to gamble until we have the right information needed to be used for a gambling platform kyc, if we cant present any of the information needed, they they are going to deprived us.

I didn't
I didn't use any extra internet connection or software to access the website. I am a user from Nigeria. And Nigeria is not a banned location because I access the website without a VPN and since the past 2 years there's been no problem with that.

I had won some money the second time from a bet higher than the previous one although less than 100 dollars and they wanted to to just confirm before I withdrew the winnings. And once I had the documents verified or I past the process, my withdrawal was processed. It was this experience that made me read their Terms of service again. And in the document they stated that they can ask for KYC at anytime if they have any reason to do so.

I don't know why, I needed to repeat my self for two user.

But at least can you read term & condition first ? It's really not long, just under 1 mins can find the things you are mentioned is being ask by them. Take a look from screenshot, (Bustabit & Bustadice) can ask you data for verify your self.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/10/25/KNu55.png

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/10/25/KNAUz.png

Please take time to read term & condition as always, even we all know: TLTR (TO LONG TO READ). It's gonna to save you, it's basically like contract (always read the contract or paper before you sign it).

I did look their terms (both site) and find/check keywords as i usually do (ctrol+f) (I didn't read full of any ToS page) before replying here earlier but never saw those keywords same on google thus my assumptions of them not asking such stuff, but i stand corrected. Thanks for the information though.

Not 100% true and you shouldn't give advice if you're not 100% sure of what you are saying. Some casinos might let you wd $2000 or $3000 a few times but when you hit a certain threshold hold, maybe 20k in total wd, that might trigger kyc.

Bottom line, if the ToS mentions kyc blah blah anything, be prepared that at some point they will likely nail you for documents.

Some members gave suggestions based on their own experience which might be a bit misleading as other users might have a completely different experience. Just because a casino didn’t ask you for kyc doesn’t necessarily mean they won’t do it with other customers.
What OP should do is to look for casinos that promote theirselves as no-kyc and make sure to read their tos. Even then, there is still a chance that you will be asked to verify your identity.

Do you have an active ANN thread here in the forum and if yes, then point me to it because from your username, it is clear that you are a casino representative and should know how things are done over here, this is a cryptocurrency discussion forum and for that, anything related to promotions should be done properly by opening a discussion thread for your potential clients instead coming through the back door to advistertise your casino.

Although the ops ask for recommendations of free KYC withdrawal casinos, so your comment may be somehow justified, but not all that acceptable to do that here in the forum, that is why I have to quote your comment to point that out for all of us to get thos clarity.

Most of the centralized casinos we have today often promote their self as non-kyc casino at the very beginning it their journey in the gambling industry, but as time goes on and they manage to acquire the necessary licenses required for them to become a fully recognized legal online gambling casino, they switch to starting asking users for kyc verification, and most of this casinos make this switch without even letting their customers know about it.
But on the other hand, this is even if the casino manages to make it to that stage without closing down.

I would say that it's more riskier to depend on a new casino because it's promoting itself as a non kyc casino, than rather choose a well known, trusted and established casino that requires kyc, atleast, choosing a casino like this, you the gambler have a bit of peace of mind that they won't disappear some day, or turn around to start asking kyc verification when they initial promoted themselves as non-kyc

There are still many new casinos that don't ask for KYC from their customers and I believe that's because they are still new, the period a new casino starts making noises around the internet and new users are storming the casino they will be forced to start asking for KYC if they want to keep operating their business.

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There is no room for casinos with no KYC, we all should accept this, if as a online casino owner you don't feel like asking for KYC from your customers then your casino should stay far behind, make sure it never sees the spotlight, the less popular the casino is the better.

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I have always know that stake will join someday, they are too big not to be noticed by regulators, to avoid trouble asking customers for KYC verifications is a must.

If you're gambling at a licensed casino, expect them to ask for KYC at some point. Sure, a lot of licensed casinos don’t require KYC, especially for smaller bets, so if you’re betting at that level, regulated casinos are still a safe option. But if you're set on avoiding KYC entirely, a regulated casino isn't the way to go; you’d need to look into decentralized casinos. Just keep in mind, though, it’s still a bit risky since there aren’t too many decentralized options in the industry yet.

I just read a few of the advice and options people gave you but I advise you to go for those decentralised casinos if you do not ever want to complete the KYC and still want to gamble relaxed. The only sacrifices here are to be willing to part ways with the frequent blockchain transaction fees and also know how their games work and the options they have.

I've never been comfortable with the no-KYC casinos and some have defrauded their customers and disappeared, while others may later ask for the KYC after a while citing regulators are on their neck especially if you are winning. So what's the point?

Duelbits has been around for a few years but didn't ask me for KYC unless you're another case where KYC might apply.
As of now the casinos not asking for KYC are still many.
Yeap casinos have regulation then it will be monitored by the government then someday KYC will be a must like exchanges.

There is no casino that does not want to be popular, they continue to increase efforts to be popular as well as other things where they ask for KYC so we as customers must be prepared.
Until then just take advantage of casinos that don't KYC because there are still many.

The easiest way to find a casino like yours is that there are many casino site announcement threads in this forum where you can find many casino site you ANN. so from here you can choice casino site that you are afford to use according your needs and also you can visit this link to know many casinos features in  shortcut way - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.0

Well said. Those suggestions are totally misleading and inaccurate which just goes to show that they need to think twice before handing out such inaccurate suggestions on a platter.

This is incorrect. All centralised crypto gambling sites can request KYC at any point of time for any amount which is a fact these days.

Are we really sure the op came genuinely? I replied the thread I’ve been reading the replies but never have I seen the Op respond to the comments and to top things up the Op created the account made the post and left it two minutes later.

I’d suggest we just ignore it and wait till the Op returns back to make a single comment if not we’ll only just be wasting our time suggesting different casinos that will never be used.

BC.Game, Metaspins, BetFury, Metawin, and a few others never asked me to complete KYC. In these casinos, I have a lot of deposits & withdrawals... in some of them, I have been playing for years.

I don't like KYC, when I can I will avoid it. But I think everyone should be ready to complete the KYC procedure if the casino asks for it, for any reason... what if you happen to win some bigger money and before the payout, they ask you to do KYC?


It's been 3 days already, so the chances of that are slim, but still there...

If he is really interested in what he asked, maybe he will come back. If he is satisfied with the comments and information he has received, he can lock the topic so that it does not drag on, and if not, he can ask additional questions.

It’s not just OP who benefits from our replies; there are plenty of newbies who will read this thread. They’ll see that the chances of finding casinos with no KYC offers are almost nonexistent. Our replies can help educate them to stay away from casinos that promise no KYC while still having KYC requirements in their TOS.

The link you provided can help the Op to know the casinos that doing KYC and the ones that are not doing KYC. And as you said, if the Op is withdrawing small amount, I think there will be no KYC requirement but when he is withdrawing big amount. And if he is withdrawing big amount then the no KYC casino he is looking for will also require KYC at that time so there is no KYC free casino in the industry for now. Someone made mentioned of DGbet and livecasinos, I don't think they will not ask for KYC when a gambler want to withdraw $10,000 and above. Op just prepare your KYC keep and register to any casino here that is reputable.

I think the most important thing is to make sure we read their terms and conditions before going further to make use of the casino, because some them do asked after kyc knowing too well that the winning amount is large and when requesting for one time withdrawals it makes it looks so suspicious to the gambling/betting site, so they think is not operated by the real owner therefore before passing through withdrawal process you would have to pass some documents verifications before they enable you have your winning amount. The most important thing is that we must be prepared while gambling because we could hit jackpot were they casino asks us to undergo verification processes.

Unless a casino has explicitly stated somewhere that they do not enforce KYC, you cannot assume that you will not be asked for documentation. Even casinos that didn’t ask for KYC before are being forced by Curacao regulators to implement it. Casinos that are recommended as being KYC-free often still mention KYC in their terms and conditions. You need confirmation from a direct source and not speculation based on personal anecdotes.

You sound correct and many gamblers need to understand that big casinos are always noticed by the government which will want them to adhere to the laws Incase of money laundering users that might want to escape getting caught by the government looking for good casinos where they could exchange stolen funds for new ones that will not get noticed by the government. KYC are mandatory in most regions where many of these casinos are registered that is why it is hard to see popular and reputable casinos not asking for KYC even though it's a fair one. Fair KYC could be compulsory like asking for your email address, your real name and address, but when something fishy happens, they could ask for other important documents.

You're right... Stake has started to strictly enforce all users to do KYC until the deadline until the end of the year but until now withdrawals are still smooth without KYC verification maybe if the year has changed then it has become mandatory for Stake users.

There are still casinos that have a license but do not ask for KYC... but remember anytime a casino will ask you for KYC because they already have strict regulations... I think we see that all casinos here have a license, if a casino does not have a license then it needs to be questioned...

I have seen some casinos around here which claim to be nom-KYC ones, it is rather an strategy for the staff of such projects to catch the attention of newbies within the world of gambling, they are most of the time the one who do not like to go through the hassle of submitting their personal information and papers, like passport and identity card, so a casino being Non-KYC could be an actual boost for the gambling volume for small casinos or bookies, but inevitably when a casino gets to certain level of volume and deposits regulators and law enforcement agencies will send a cease and desist order against the website of platform itself. On the internet, we are going through times in which it seems to be necessary to track our movements and connect all the digital dots which could be tied to our identity in real life. Because of that, I am quite skeptical each time I see a small casino or an relatively new casino to use absence of KYC as a way to advertise themselves.  

Rather than doing what OP is trying to do, we should just submit our information to a couple of reliable casinos we are comfortable with and not to take chances with shady services out there.

Well, this is true. I thought about this after making my reply - because there are several times that I have been helped by threads which the Op has abandoned or threads that were made a long time ago before I even came to the forum or became active in the gambling board.

Since this forum is like an archive of knowledge I guess adding this to the lists of things already existing here wouldn’t be bad even if the person who asked the question initially didn’t get to use it.

There are platforms in which truly, we can find them that they don't require kyc, while some will not have to ask at as the time of joining, but also g the line, they walk demands for it, we have to know the impacts, any gambling platform have to be scrutinized well by us before we make them as our preferred way.

That's the million dollar question, as they say in many countries.

The first thing here is not to ask which casino doesn't have it, since in reality the real situation is because you're afraid of KYC, you know.

The question is, what happens if I have problems with the withdrawal of my money, not only because of the KYC issue since a casino may or may not have it but that doesn't prevent having withdrawal problems.

Then, someone can have good experiences with a casino, but it will always be their personal experience, in the long run the sum of those positive reactions adds up to You decision, but it may not be the best choice.

Doesn't mean they are not gonna ask you "KYC"

You should try to look on term & condition, not based experience. Cause all the casino you are mentioned, all of them can ask you KYC. If you don't believe it, then you can tried to check one by one of each casino.

Term & condition is always the answer, not based experience user.

Yes that's right, a casino site's terms and conditions may change due to changes in the site's license and various laws from governments in different countries.  And we can get answers to all kinds of critical questions in Tos. So of course, if you have any questions about something new or any casino site, you should read the TOS carefully to clear it up. then all kinds of confusion can be removed by itself. It's much easier to find an answer to a question by reading the TOS than by opening a topic and getting opinions from different people.

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I recommend you to check out notokyc.com

I agree with you but I think the sites op mentioned are reputable enough so if he completes kyc verification there it won't have any negative effect on him. But those casinos allow him to gamble without KYC verification. He can also use stake.com and sportsbet.io where he can gamble a good amount without KYC verification. A lot of gambling signs are constantly coming to the gambling market due to which every casino site is increasing its competitors. so they are also making their rules much easier.

A casino may not ask you for kyc while you deposit and gamble, but take note that they can always ask you for kyc anytime, some casinos are even notorious for asking for kyc when a user wins a huge amount of money and sometimes i suspect that some of them do it in order not to pay out the gambler, i find that to be very unfair. So in summary, always be ready to submit kyc in any casino, because it could be triggered anytime.

To make sure you won't have any problems when it comes to withdrawal, better prepare for the compliance of their kyc protocol. Even if we say, the site is not asking kyc for now, sooner or later, they have the possibility to require from you especially those licensed casinos. Don't get too complacent as it can happen anytime. Also do take note that your credentials should match what you have entered when you sign up because it might create problems later on.

Absolutely, if I was never asked for KYC on a particular casino doesn't mean everyone will have the same experience. In fact KYC can be asked at anytime as long as the casino is AML regulated but users with small wagering may not be facing any queries about their withdrawal so they won't be asked for KYC and Proof of Funds. But there are some who create account and deposit large but wager a small amount and they try to withdraw them all which a casino consider as an attempt to launder money and definitely those situations will trigger KYC verification.

There are many good suggestions that I have read in this topic, and I am sure of the quality of those suggestions because the users who suggested them are trusted members. But what I want to point out is that there is no guarantee that what happened to these users is the same as what will happen to you. One of the important factors that must be taken into consideration is the amount you intend to withdraw from the platform. There are amounts that the platform cannot allow you to withdraw before verifying your identity and registering all your data, and in some cases they may ask you to prove the source of the deposited amount if there is any suspicion of any kind, especially if the amount is large enough to raise suspicion. Of course, this is on the assumption that it has been verified that you used the casino honestly and without manipulation.

My advice to OP if he wants to withdraw a large amount is to divide the withdrawal into withdrawals of small amounts and at different times. This is not a guarantee that the withdrawal will always be successful without completing the kyc procedures, but it will help to some extent in avoiding this request. You can also avoid using centralized casinos and look for decentralized alternatives, but this option has limitations of a different kind.

That's it, it's just unfair but people now see it as normal these days, you know when the insane things are common in an environment, people now see it as normal even if it is an abomination elsewhere. I've always said that collecting people's money without KYC but trying to pay them only with KYC is not so cool, but I don't mind since there is a solution. The solution is that you should complete your KYC as soon as you register with the casino before depositing your money. That is good only for the KYC casinos, but it got worse when the casino preached no-KYC when you opened the account but suddenly asked you for it. We've seen a lot of cases like that and it puts people in unfortunate situations if they already have their money hooked there.

It looks like regulators finally caught up with the crypto gambling industry.

Just to be clear, this is for all of the Stake sites in each region, right? So no differentiating between stake.com and stake.us for example.

It should be very easy to pass the KYC if they just ask for ID + proof of address (assuming your country makes it easy for you to get that last piece of information). If source of funds is involved though, then things become more complicated.

I guess these new rules apply to all Stake sites. They have been enforcing mandatory KYC for a long time now though it was very basic, but the new level stuff is disheartening to say the least even though completely understandable.

Also, level 2 probably will require ID + Address proofs and nothing more. Source of funds etc are usually requested in higher levels based on what I know.

As a stake user who did my KYC over a year ago, I can say that in the first level of verification people put their full names and other data. In the second level people upload ID, in the third level people upload Address proofs, in the fourth level people upload proof of funds. I didn't see any email about verification notice, I'm looking in my email, I don't know if I didn't receive it because I have a level 2 verified account and now I'm verifying for level 3. Either way, KYC is here to stay. Governments have started to force casinos and exchanges to ask for KYC and I won't be surprised if in a few years crypto wallets are also asking for KYC.

Maybe not unfair especially if they know that the casino they are playing is KYC compliant. For sure they already know that's part of regulation and common things happening in a legitimate casino now. It will only goes unfair if the casino claims to be a KYC free but suddenly end up asking that saying for verification purposes. With these reason we don't have any escape since with that situation is just lying to us regarding on no KYC thing. That's why I always follow with what majority says that stick only on those reputable casinos since we provably not gonna get some issue with them especially if we always obey their rules.

It is possible that email notifications for those who have not done level 2 verification if you did it last year will not receive this notification.
I said that exchanges are almost all KYC mandatory if you want to trade there, while casinos still have waivers where users can still use casinos with no KYC, but someday it will be like exchanges that KYC will be mandatory.

It all depends, some may not require for kyc on making withdrawals but will give a minimum withdrawal amount, which if you're unable to have such balance on your account, you may not be able to withdraw and this is something entirely different from the normal kyc related issues affecting gamblers from making withdrawals, from my experience, most casinos will demand for kyc before allowing for making withdrawal except for few.

That is for sure, as we know the era we have now. Being online is now easily accessible and the hype of online casinos are still there. If you like to hang out online, you can came across a different website/casino but it does not mean that you will register and play on them for a long time but the number of unknown casinos to us must still be more than it. They might be a smaller casino and usually a small casino don't have a license yet, so they don't also have a KYC for now. Professional casinos will still have an early warning before they change their rules, so we can always packed our bags and migrate to other KYC-friendly casinos.

If a gambler is just betting small amounts, then KYC probably isn't a big deal. Even though most popular casinos here are KYC-compliant, they don’t usually ask for it unless it’s necessary. But the OP should be ready, since regulations can change, and the casinos have to adapt.

I’ve noticed some Telegram casinos showing up; maybe they’re the solution? Correct me if I’m wrong, though. I’m not too familiar with that kind of platform.

Stake has announced its mandatory KYC so, it's no longer your choice with those cryptos that you want to gamble.

You're right, for small time gamblers it's not a mandatory thing. But we're getting the point from stake and other casinos that they were once a non-kyc casino but then, asked it as a mandatory requirement. So, those at some point of their prime and popularity now and they're not asking for it, one day they will make it as an obligatory.

This is one. But they're not just too lovable at all, maybe the interest isn't there yet but they can be an alternative.

Yes, it looks like it but I doubt if it's global, it may be the stake.us or other jurisdictions where regulation is now tougher. I said this because I didn't receive any email to inform me of such a development and neither did anyone I know using Stake inform me of such.

This is why it's good you have a legit means of earning, otherwise, if you are dealing with some risky activities like trading and gambling and you can't prove the source of funds when required, the money is gone. Many might have just been gambling for years without additional verifications but as it has progressed to everyone verifying now, it will soon get to the turn of everyone providing their source of funds.

It seems regulation is winning!

That is it and is always like that, I also advised most of my friends to pass kyc already before making deposit to start using the site. Many people are victims of these casinos and they are usually trapped when they make huge winning in the casino and of course casinos mostly carry out that operation if they are not ready to pay huge amount to the users and if they are not able to provide such kyc they would seize such amount from them.

You both are correct and I completely agree, this is something I believe we have discussed several times in the gambling discussion board.
We have to know that some casinos are very trickish and will do any thing to make sure they do not pay their player who wins a good amount of money. And one of the means they rely on is through kyc, and this is usually when they ask for documents that they know that the player won't find easy providing..

The best way to avoid such as the above from happening is always to first pass the kyc verification before making any form of deposit to the casino, and if the casino does not allow kyc before deposit, then the management of that casino must be up to something and such casino should be avoided.

For a casino not to request KYC information is almost impossible, only decentralized casinos, all casinos require KYC and that was something that was implemented in a mandatory way to ensure all privacy and with multiple excuses, such as security, so that they don't hack you, blah blah and blah, we all know that a casino can be hacked and they can steal, there is nothing safe there, if you look for a centralized casino without that requirement I would tell you that it is impossible at this point.

There are so many casinos that will not ask for KYC but at the long run, they will always ask for KYC even though it's a simple one that will will require you to submit your identity only without going as far as asking for proofs of location r nationality. Privacy is what we should ensure we stick to because it's not every casinos that we have to do KYC since their are many that will always sell our information to the  public and can be used against us in the future. Maybe the government may make this process more difficult for us in the future by the time they start fighting against decentralized casinos.

in the end they ask for KYC  ;D
even though it is basic KYC I think we also have to be careful in this matter, so it is better to play on one site or a few sites that do KYC not on all gambling sites
because KYC is currently very vulnerable to fraud and data sales for bad things and even harm the data owner

Although I was so minor about that, but since you brought it out I think it's good to "iron it out." The truth is that the world of payment has never been fair to the customers (not casino alone), it's all about the company, and the regulators even gave them a high degree of freedom and flexibility. This can only explain why you would be able to deposit $100,000 without any KYC but won't be able to withdraw $1 without KYC. Is that fair? No, because "what is good for the goose is good for the gander." That adage is fairness. Fine, they are regulated and must obey the regulation, I wonder why the law did not state it emphatically that no company must receive a dime from any client/customer without a KYC as well. It is then we can talk about fairness.

But we arent seeing these stuffs right? but rather they wouldnt really be mindful or having those strict imposing of rules about before making some big deposits then they should have made or comply the KYC first
on which we know that this mostly will really be done on the moment that you do make out some withdrawal. Sounds new? No it isnt. We've been through with those horrendous and nightmare kind of scenarios on which platforms really do allow on making that huge deposits and asking nothing but on the moment that tries out to withdraw then this is where shit things starts to happen. On the moment or time that you have sin something significant then you wont really be bothered about complying with those requirements on which as long you do able to get your winnings then this would really be your outmost priority. It do really just sucks that if they were really that asking verification in the first place then they should be asking it out since from the start so that there would really be that smooth transaction with those future transactions or request that be done by a certain user. Actually there would be no problems as long you do deal up with a known and reputable site but if we do speak about into those new ones or havent established out their company or
site yet in terms of reputation and popularity then there would really be those probabilities that you wont be able to get your winnings due to that issue.

Actually there is a reason why they implement KYC where there will be a connection with money laundering or other bad things, as we see now, the Tampa KYC word promotion is the main key to new casinos, after we play and make a withdrawal, there will be a KYC requirement for withdrawals so not 100% of casinos do not do KYC

Maybe what the ops is looking for is a decentralized casino that have no requirements for KYC verification, if not as long as the gambling sites is a centralized casino, you have to respect that their license demands them to always know their customers and if they don't abide by such a policy to ask for verification from player's at some point, their license could be revoked, and their be forced out of the market, that is why, any cryptocurrency casino that is decentralised always have that tendency to ask for KYC to fulfil their Anti money laundering regulations.

Unless if a casino want to become a trap for the player that is when and where their may say, they don't require KYC to play on them, but on the long run, the gambler will eventually be asked to verify their accounts one way or the other.

So anything that make you to create an accoyon centralised casinos, just be ready to hand out you documents for verification any point you are asked for, this is the only way to keep your account active on such a site.

Brilliant take. Casinos are just businesses that are trying to survive in this saturated landscape which is why it makes sense as to why they request KYC only during withdrawals and not during deposits even though it seems unethical.

I'm fine with providing simple KYC stuff like ID proof, address proof etc, but advanced KYC like source of funds, video KYC etc for simple reasons is nonsensical.

Honestly, I hate it when a casino asks for my source of funds. It feels like giving away a secret. In that case, maybe we could just lie a bit? Like, say it’s from remittances or allowance from parents or relatives who support us? Because if we actually have a business and they ask for permits, licenses, and bank accounts, that’s like setting ourselves up for trouble, if you ask me.

I'm with you at this stage, I also will never do the next level of KYC where I have to provide source of funds.
I'd prefer to lose my gambling account although it is on my favorite casino if they ask me to provide it.
KYC level 2 or where it is just about providing personal document such as ID Card or Passport is still fine for me.

Totally understandable about money laundering matters and since these businesses are really that regulated or licensed then they are really that complying governments rules on which it is really that a standard thing. When it comes to verification levels on which it does really give out that kind of question on why they do really comes into a point on asking out source of income? Aren't giving your personal details isn't enough?  Just like on what mentioned above by other poster that I would rather lose up gambling account or some funds if they would really be asking out this kind of verification on which this is really something which is too much.

As for worrying about withdrawals on which there are still some sites or platforms that doesn't ask out some verification and that is something that we do want. You won't really be that having those worries because you are confident that you could take out your winnings without any issues, because you've been dealing up with a legit platform. Never ever tend to deposit carelessly into the sites or platforms that doesn't have some known reputation.

If situation came that they ask proof of funds or any more deeper information about ourselves then provably I will not cooperate with them and seek for another casino that only ask basic information when they asked KYC. Since for me its to much for asking that information while we want only to gamble in their casino.

There's lots of reputable choices here and will not settle for casino who implement more stricter KYC rules to their costumers.

For sure the casino ask that will lose a lot of costumer since to many gamblers don't really like KYC at first place but they just accept that it needed to submit an ID due to regulation, but if proof of income has been asked I guess this is main reason for them not to gamble anymore since security is more important than playing a risky game.

You are very correct and I completely agree wit you, I usually don't have issues with KYC when it just involves submitting my personal government issued ID card and taking pictures or a short video, or maybe a video chat or something, but when it gets to this level of providing my source of fund to casino or may an exchange, it's a real trouble for me..
And I am actually very glad that ever since I started doing things online and passing kyc verification, I've never gotten to that stage of having to provide my source of income, on Stake, I am currently on level 2 verification and have no plan of going beyond that level.

But then on the other hand, sometimes, the casinos forces a gambler to do this level of kyc or else, loose not just the account, but also a large sum of money that the gambler have won and he or she is trying to withdraw, at such a circumstance, what will you do? Imagine winning over a $100,000 and trying to withdraw the money, and the casino asked for a proof of fund verification, would you forfeit this money back to the casino and as well loose the account?

The stake is one casino that before now didn't ask for KYC from their customers, I don't know how the KYC policy at stake is at the moment, but rest assured that we have a few casinos that don't require kyc from customers unless there is a need for that, so for sure we have to come to alignment with the acceptance of the fact that we may be asked for KYC verification at some point if need be.

If you don't want to go through KYC at all, you have the option to choose a decentralized casino that doesn't require kyc at all but also know that it also has its limitations.

According to the experience of some of the players I know who have entered decentralized casinos, it seems to them that they offer their privacy and anonymity, that there are no KYC requirements and that all the withdrawals are fast and the whole process is good, but the bad thing about this is that every movement of the casino will be charged, every single thing you do is charged, so what is good on the one hand, they charge you on the other and it is with money, that is, it hurts more, it is not known at this stage which is better then.

Real decentralized casino offers only limited games solely house games/original games only since 3rd party game providers such as Pragmatic, Evolution and many more usually require license to operate and can be only play via centralized casino.

Decentralized casino is really the best answer to this thread assuming the OP is not looking for 3rd party games that involves license.

Some CEX offer no KYC however, they have the right to ask KYC in case your account show some potential violation on ToS.

Same here, am not always against the request on KYC for any reason while in the use of a casino, but the kind of request they ask such as providing with source of earnings could be annoying, why do they have to know my source of income when they are not the ones responsible for the income that goes in, this is not safe in our own part being a gambler, means of identity is not bad or we give our email, but taking selfie and the likes could also looks absurd on request.

I agree that this can be very annoying for most users, but to combat money laundering, they need to verify the source of the funds they receive. Of course, they shouldn’t do this for all their customers, but only when they detect suspicious activities.

They also request selfies to confirm that the customer is indeed who they claim to be, as some users try to verify their identity using fake or stolen documents.

If you don’t want to go through this hussle, make sure to use a real no-KYC casino.

I'm sure they exist but they are 1) too niche and not known outside of a particular country or region, or 2) trying to keep a low profile.

I wonder if there exist casinos on the darknet, bow that I have mentioned that.  :o

I have to agree with the both of you, I am one person that have never really stood against kyc, and my reason is because we kyc ourselves everyday In our every day life, why then does kyc have to become a big problem to many of us when it comes to doing same online so as to be allowed to enjoy a service from a centralized platform?

But then, when it comes to platforms asking for my source of funds, it definitely will feel very annoying for me, I am using the word "will" because amongst all the platforms where I have kyced, I've never been asked to provide my source of fund, maybe it's because I am not a millionaire yet 😁 but on a serious note, I will be very annoyed if any platform will ever ask for my source of fund, even though I perfectly understand that they are just carrying out a process given to them by the regulatory authorities.

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I hope people stay away from these 3 casinos, because the risk of seeing their money confiscated is very high. These casinos that say they are NO KYC at the end of the day also ask for KYC and always with the argument that they detected suspicious activities for this reason they need the customer to do KYC

Well I say something, to enter a decentralized casino it is sought that they do not ask for the KYC, because if not, then such an effort does not make sense, it is a fact that things are like that, a decentralized casino that asks me for KYC then I leave, it does not make sense, the casino if it determines that I am violating the Tos, then it would leave me much worse, I who am a regular player, I would not have a single skill or anything like that, then I would have the worst of all experiences. I did not know that they had those restrictions, simply like that you cannot play.

A decentralized casino that still care much about their user adhering to any laid out forms of rules, and have even gone further to state out form of punishment for offenders isn't truly a decentralized casino.
A casino can not claim to be decentralized and then proceed to ask me for kyc verification when they accuse me of violation of their terms and conditions, what is terms and conditions even doing with a decentralized service in the first place?

Like I will always say, many casinos today claiming to be decentralized aren't decentralized, they are just using that word "decentralized" to capture users who do not understand or know what decentralized really is, and this is one of the areas gamblers really need to give themselves to knowledge to avoid being cheated with stuffs like this.

For a looser KYC policy, I'd recommend jacksclub Casino, betplay or Pasino. I'd not gamble with high amounts at no-kyc casinos, so be careful still.

You are absolutely right about that, brother. Sometimes casinos say things like that to attract customers, and since now everyone or almost everyone runs away from KYC, when they see a casino that offers such ease, many sign up and get unpleasant surprises. For a casino to be decentralized, they have to meet certain trust criteria, I imagine, and the only advantage they have is that , decentralization. I like how you said it, bro.

A casino platform must control an economy and have a regulatory system that can never be decentralized. Some casino sites claim to be anonymus casino but they do it only to attract users. You can read the Tos of those sites and see that they have some rules about kyc right there. But they are only using in their title they are decentralized and they are anonymous casino site where you can gamble for any amount without submitting your identity document. So always read ToS clearly

They're not really an anonymous casino since their TOS clearly states KYC. But sometimes, casinos use that as a marketing tactic to attract more gamblers and stand out from the competition. I’m sure many gamblers are aware of this, and these days, KYC has become pretty standard. However, if a casino isn’t strict in enforcing it, that definitely makes it more appealing.

It's still misleading, and as a gambler, I don’t like when a casino claims to be anonymous while holding a license.. yes, we can read about it in the TOS before signing up, but that kind of marketing feels like clickbait as it promises one thing but delivers another.

We should be aware that some casinos operate this way, and even if they advertise as "anonymous," we can’t really blame them if we end up getting scammed, especially when there were already red flags from the start. I think it would be more accurate if they called themselves "no-KYC casinos" instead of "anonymous."

In the end regulations to implement KYC are unavoidable because to be able to expand operations in certain jurisdictions must go through the filtering of the regulations themselves. If it's about claiming to be an anonymous casino, this has become a common trick because the label is especially attractive to crypto gamblers, but once you enter, play and feel the excitement of betting in it, you realize that the casino is not 100% anonymous. There are many cases of gamblers who skip the ToS so we can find a special report on that in the Scam Accusations section.

I don't have a specific online casino name in mind but they do exist, good luck finding them though, because I believe if any do exist they are going to keep up for a time being, also withdrawal verification is based on how much you are trying to withdraw from the online casino, if the amount is large you will likely be asked for verification.

I rarely face this challenge because I haven't won a large amount so far, I am always at a minimal range because I use under a dollar for most of my gambling activities.

I also perfer passing KYC verification is permitted before I start using any online casinos, but if I found myself in such a situation I wouldn't mind providing all the information requests from me, I have no reason to hide from passing KYC verification.

Actually, There’s still a lot of casino that doesn’t require KYC mostly unlicensed or decentralized casino offer this feature.

There’s a list of casino here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0 which is prepared by @Mahdirakib. You can check whether the casino requires KYC or not.

The list is so helpful because it includes important information related to KYC and license.

OP, on the post on the limited @wapfika has shown online casinos that are here, which apply the KYC feature and which does not apply the KYC feature.

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I don't know why you avoid KYC casino.....🤔

Honestly, I have often seen the casino reported/problematic without KYC, many are detrimental to its users, most casinos do not have KYC they are unofficial licenses, it's common, for that looking for a legal casino so that you don't have problems in the future, that's my advice.

This is crazy and I don't really know why a casino would decided to ask for KYC after they have made gamblers to relax and not to bother on using their KYC credentials for continuity after registering on the casinos. I think we that are gamblers and that like using multiple casinos, it is high time we start having that feelings that no KYC casino does not really exist. When the team knows that you are one of the luckiest gamblers in their platform or you have been making consecutive profits for too long, they will look for ways to restrict you from gambling by asking for sophisticated KYC information.

We both basically fall in the same category, most gamblers have always criticized kyc simply because they believe the document can or will be used for bad things if it enters the wrong hands, this in reality is not a lie but then, no one in their right senses won't check the platform they are submitting their personal information to to make sure it's a well trusted and registered business.

I really do not have any issues with submitting documents with my personal information for kyc verification on any casino so long as the casino is trusted, and also not a new casino, new casinos have a higher risk of closing down at any time, but casinos that have been running for several years and have summounted alot of huddles and are known to be successful are safe to kyc with.

In as much as the online space is concerned, and it happened that you're the type of person that mostly run your day-to-day business online and where you visit different platforms, I wonder how one can escape being kyced, because the platforms would want to know you, However it's left on each individual how he or she navigate his or her way on the online space to try to avoid platforms that do require kyc, but these no kyc platforms are very rare compared to the number of platforms that do require kyc even in this casino platforms, some may not require you do kyc at the initial time, but when you started running big amount of money on their platform, I bet they will definitely ask for kyc.

That’s why it’s important to choose casinos with a good reputation as our information is already at risk. Even though they’re regulated and require KYC, documents can still be hacked, and that would be a big problem for them. What we’re doing is just prevention because once our documents get leaked, I don’t think there’s any way to fix that anymore.

So with a reputable casino, we can expect they have a strong system against any vulnerabilities.

And that is the type of advertising that makes me hate this type of business, the casinos that do that not only deceive, they play with people's beliefs and that is why they are often labeled as scammers, because for me scamming is not only about money, it is also about information, a casino that does this at least I do not play there.

Not only in casinos, there are many businesses that tell you and offer you one thing and then they come out with other things, what they gain is that one spreads the word and they do not progress and go bankrupt, they can deceive a few, but those few make sure that no one else falls for it again.

Probably casino allow you withdraw your small win, I think many casinos allow this. But when you want to withdraw a big money, they may start ask you to do KYC before they can process your withdrawal. It is just about a matter of time for casino require you to do KYC because that is their rule.

If you already read T&C, you can see the casino can ask you to verify your account anytime. If you don't agree with that, you can leave the casino and search for the other casinos. But you will get the same thing as before.

And a successful casino didn't become successful from untrustworthiness, they became successful because they were and are trusted, reputable. So when I said I prefer to kyc with long running and successful casinos, I also meant reputable as well.

But then on the other hand, a casino being reputable doesn't not mean it can't be hacked, as a matter of fact, users only assume, but non actually have access to the casinos security system to ascertain how strong their system is, we just trust blindly and with no other choice.

A casino getting hacked and users kyc information being or getting stolen doesn't fear me anymore, and this more reason why kycing when required isn't a problem to me anymore, I just make sure to be sure the casino in question is one that have stood the test of time (like I said previously).

Of course, you are on your own when you are dealing with the darknet to source for your casinos, have casinos finished in the world where you have numerous to choose from? We have both centralised and decentralised ones that are popular, that is enough for anyone trying to hide from whatever reason they have to hide. I don't even believe anyone should engage in that if they do not have evil to hide, that's what I know the darknet for.

It's good to use a casino based on our own interest. Since there are centralized and decentralized casinos, if a gambler is a kind of person that don't want his identity to be leaked to the Internet, it is better to use a decentralized casinos where no KYC will be asked and sometimes, it can be expensive paying for gas fee anytime you want to gamble. Majority still adhere to centralized casino s because of the benefits especially when you keep getting bonus and betting on different games you choose to gamble on. Everyone's choice is different and every casino whether centralized or decentralized has their own uniqueness.

Yes, they exist, and most, if not all, of them are crypto casinos due to the level of anonymity that cryptocurrencies provide.
However, I would never recommend anyone play on one of them because of the high risks involved.

If your account gets banned or you’re unable to withdraw your money, no one will be able to help you, as these casinos are usually unregulated and their owners are anonymous.

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