Title: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Japinat on October 29, 2024, 07:02:34 AM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Questat on October 29, 2024, 09:07:47 AM This refers to sports betting, right? Most of what I read includes the term "trap," which is when the line looks too good to be true. That's something we should avoid or bet on the other side. There haven't been a lot of those, but if you spot one with the bookie, it’s considered an opportunity for sharp bettors. This usually indicates that big action is happening on the other side of the bet, which typically reflects public bets.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Charles-Tim on October 29, 2024, 11:58:40 AM The trap that I have noticed on many crypto gambling sites is the ability of new customers to be able to deposit without KYC needed but when they want to withdraw, they will need to get verified. But this can be avoided if you read the gambling site ToS.
Since I have been using many gambling sites, there is nothing that is a trap for me. Just read the rules, use reputed gambling sites and you will be fine. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Yaunfitda on October 29, 2024, 12:07:04 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. Yeah, most likely it could apply to sports betting that much, although I would also say that it can be applicable to card games as well like black jack and baccarat. Like in black jack, when you have a lot of hands in the table and you might take that you will almost win them all as you have like 18-20 high hands.Unfortunately, the banker might have 4, then open a 7 and unfortunately, it might be a face card or ten, giving them 21 and a black jack. I also see this in baccarat when majority of the bettors think that it's should be a player let's say on the next hand, and then bet a lot of money. But when the card was dealt, yes you have a 8, but it's what we call a jackpot as the banker has 9. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Su-asa on October 29, 2024, 04:55:46 PM I think you are definitely talking about sports betting, there are selections that are of a very low value, they can be very sure and captivating enough to get a lot of gamblers attention, these are part of their schemes and traps to lure you into making the wrong choices. Playing sports betting for a long time has taught me this. Just like you said when it's too obvious then it's definitely a trap. When it seems like that selection is too sure to pick the best thing for you to do is pick something random because that might be a way to escape the mind games of the bookies.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Oilacris on October 29, 2024, 05:00:33 PM I think you are definitely talking about sports betting, there are selections that are of a very low value, they can be very sure and captivating enough to get a lot of gamblers attention, these are part of their schemes and traps to lure you into making the wrong choices. Playing sports betting for a long time has taught me this. Just like you said when it's too obvious then it's definitely a trap. When it seems like that selection is too sure to pick the best thing for you to do is pick something random because that might be a way to escape the mind games of the bookies. On the moment that you are really that knowledgeable already in betting on sports then you would really be definitely be finding this stuff to be known or something that could be obvious but this is usually on the time or moment that you are already that experienced. You could be able to determine on the moment or time comes that you are already getting used to or being wary on how things happen into this area. Therefore, back in the past on which you might done the wrong thing but now you do able to divert yourself into something more less risks path because you've been able to experience it in the past. There would really be those differences in between those noobs and those experienced ones. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: OgNasty on October 29, 2024, 05:56:23 PM Sometimes when I see massive odds on a game it is almost a warning flag not to bet it. As much as I’d like to think all competition is fair and honorable, sometimes you see teams overcome I surmountable odds in a way that might make conspiracy theorists question if a player or players took a dive for a once in a lifetime payout.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: un_rank on October 29, 2024, 06:05:34 PM Do you mean 'when it is too good to be true?'
I actually like obvious, bookies that have obvious terms with clear layout on what is expected of players before playing, what amount they can withdraw, if VPN is allowed, regions that are restricted. Have the entire terms spelt out for new users from the go. When it comes to being too good to be true, bonuses come to mind first, they are many times marketed to be what they are not and the clauses are unfortunately not always obvious. - Jay - Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: swogerino on October 29, 2024, 06:17:36 PM Most likely it is a trap as things who are to good to be true usually are as that saying goes. I normally advice to stay away from such things and to do your due diligence and own research before joining any of such sites if you are referring to a specific site although I have not seen a link yet here. I mean people often fall for all sort of scams, at least in my job I see "users" which are human being like you and me that lack technological education clicking phishing links like crazy and that is why this is still one of the most successful type of scams, in an analogy here the same with such sites, when it is to good to be true please stay away, I don't know a case yet where someone following such sites or forums have come out victorious in the end, quite the opposite, the losers come exactly from these places.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: passwordnow on October 29, 2024, 09:29:31 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. Trap is when they say they're KYC free but later on asks for confirmation or verification of the user because of the policies that they've changed. Is that what you're implying? too many possibilities can be thought with this title of thread. The others that have shared their thoughts about what you're trying to imply OP is also about the odds. So, if it's not about the kyc thing then it's about the odds that we're having for the sports that we're betting. I also see them but rarely in esports and I don't mind getting into it because they're sometimes attractive and sometimes, not at all.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Davidvictorson on October 29, 2024, 09:52:02 PM High odds
Bonuses especially Cashbacks these are actually obvious traps which I have observed but still some curious gamblers still fall for it. I don't blame them though sometimes they don't even have a choice. The cashback bonus trap is even the one that almost leaves the gambler with no choice and most of them fall for it. As for high odds you must be quite inexperienced to fall for that one though except you are a high risk taker. The trap that I have noticed on many crypto gambling sites is the ability of new customers to be able to deposit without KYC needed but when they want to withdraw, they will need to get verified. But this can be avoided if you read the gambling site ToS. I have a personal experience on this one. Gladly the casino was an honest one and the processessed everything very fast. While others may report a horrible KYC submission, mine is quite the opposite.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Charles-Tim on October 30, 2024, 06:57:36 AM Bonuses especially Cashbacks these are actually obvious traps which I have observed but still some curious gamblers still fall for it. I don't blame them though sometimes they don't even have a choice. The cashback bonus trap is even the one that almost leaves the gambler with no choice and most of them fall for it. I am surprised that some people fall for cashback bonus. Someone that complained on a post on this forum recently posted that he thought that it is a deposit bonus. If the terms and conditions of the bonus is read, it will be helpful for the person to know that it is a cashback bonus. I have a personal experience on this one. Gladly the casino was an honest one and the processessed everything very fast. While others may report a horrible KYC submission, mine is quite the opposite. If you are not working for the gambling site, like to be in their signature campaign on this forum, you will have no option than to complete KYC level 2 which will require something like identity document, drivers license or something that can be used to identify you that is approved by the government in your country.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: peter0425 on October 30, 2024, 07:01:11 AM The trap that I have noticed on many crypto gambling sites is the ability of new customers to be able to deposit without KYC needed but when they want to withdraw, they will need to get verified. But this can be avoided if you read the gambling site ToS. This can also apply to many promos and bonuses.They will tell you to just deposit or wager this x amount of money to gain that amount of whatever be it cashback or some free more spins. The point is they will make it seem so simple and easy. Just do this and you’ll be rewarded handsomely. But it is not in fact that easy lol. Somehow they have hidden another thing you should do for you to get the reward. So at the end there will be no reward unless you complete a ridiculous task. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Tungbulu on October 30, 2024, 07:19:19 AM Well different people would surely read different meaning to this, because the phrase does say a lot of things and I’ll tell what I think the phrase means using my previous experiences in sports betting. Multiple times when I’m making sports predictions I often encounter odds that are jus a irresistible, by irresistible I mean that the on normal circumstances, the team are meant to win effortlessly and thus should have a very small odd, but in these rare cases, the team would be given a very big odd that you can hardly resist, and most of the time when I go for these odds and bet on that team to win, they’d either lose or the match ends in a draw, leaving me wondering how that could’ve happened. The odds were too obvious and too good to be true, and in the end, ended up up to be a trap. That’s how I understand the phrase.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Oluwa-btc on October 30, 2024, 07:19:58 AM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. To this I would say during gambling when you actually got sure predictions to a certain bets and you feel staking with a higher amount can offer you bigger wins, and it's said that it's sure then as you decide to take up the task little do you know that it's just a trap leading to losses and you end up regretting. This is how I understood it to be and mostly you find such criteria in majorly sports betting and card games, this happens when you put up so much faith in your expectations and it comes out becoming a trap of no results. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: danherbias07 on October 30, 2024, 07:29:57 AM The trap that I have noticed on many crypto gambling sites is the ability of new customers to be able to deposit without KYC needed but when they want to withdraw, they will need to get verified. But this can be avoided if you read the gambling site ToS. I don't think it's about that. It's about sports betting. Since I have been using many gambling sites, there is nothing that is a trap for me. Just read the rules, use reputed gambling sites and you will be fine. I think in the NBA betting thread, many members have predicted a trap already. Like giving out +6.5 to +9.5 handicaps to teams who are usually not playing well. It's just to make the line more inviting, especially for those who are fans of that team, and force them to bet for their team with the plus handicap. But it's too obvious that the other team will win as they are the favorite in that game. Then, there are other traps like putting one team as the favorite although they have a high losing chance against their opponent. You can take advantage of this traps as long as you know things about the sport but for those who are just blindly betting, they might make a mistake and put this in their parlay that could wreck everything. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Accardo on October 30, 2024, 08:04:00 AM It could be obvious and won't be a trap. The game could change in favor of those who you thought fell for the trap. Jamie Vardy would say; anyone can beat anyone. Both teams wants to win regardless of the odds or which side got the most betting votes. So ,it's not certain whether it's a trap...it's just the normal feeling of doing things outside the box.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: eisen33 on October 30, 2024, 09:39:33 AM A high odds should subconsciously indicate that it is too suspicious to bet on. There may be different reasons, before the game it became known that the team will not play with its main lineup, or some important players are missing. I doubt about fixed matches, because if bookmakers find out about it, then such a match will most likely not take place. In any case, such a trap should be a warning sign for the player, although sometimes it happens that the favorite loses.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Gozie51 on October 30, 2024, 09:57:07 AM Well much as I know about trap is related to cryptocurrency when the rally is on and an investors thinks and expects the move upwards to continue but gets trapped when the bear returns.
But as to gambling, if you go through the terms and conditions to see if there is need for KYC and getting verified even before your first deposit then you might have as well escaped such "trap " of stories when you are lucky to win and request for withdrawal. However, I could consider excessive gambling as a trap of its own especially when you are losing. So, chasing back loses is a trap for more loses. Therefore, to this fact, a gambler would be setting trap on himself when he is chasing loses because chases are that he could lose more than he had already lost. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: bitterguy28 on October 30, 2024, 10:09:28 AM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. Is it what they also said " if it's too good to be true,then it's scam" this is about trading/investment ? Same manner as what you said in gambling and what made me think mostly is about the Bonuses those site trying to promise people/gamblers because from that expectation we become more loser than a winner .Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: maydna on October 30, 2024, 12:50:20 PM When the promotion is too good to be true, that will be a trap for a gambler who doesn't wants to search for more info. They will not listen to others while they only wants to participates on that promotion. If that is the case, they will just get in the trap and not have a chance to get anything.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Wexnident on October 30, 2024, 12:52:04 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. Bonuses and the like. Almost 100% of the time casinos have some sort of restriction sneakily hidden among those small ass texts that they have that explain the rules lol. I'd say ingenious if they were the first but eh, it's the usual marketing stunt that a LOT of companies employ. You'd be hardpressed to find one that hasn't used that strategy even once.Other than that I guess KYC? A lot of casinos tend to avoid making their players do KYC and just let them play then when it's withdrawal time BAM, you need KYC. Like if that was the point just tell us to do KYC in the first place. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: nimogsm on October 30, 2024, 03:35:12 PM The trap that I have noticed on many crypto gambling sites is the ability of new customers to be able to deposit without KYC needed but when they want to withdraw, they will need to get verified. But this can be avoided if you read the gambling site ToS. This can also apply to many promos and bonuses.They will tell you to just deposit or wager this x amount of money to gain that amount of whatever be it cashback or some free more spins. The point is they will make it seem so simple and easy. Just do this and you’ll be rewarded handsomely. But it is not in fact that easy lol. Somehow they have hidden another thing you should do for you to get the reward. So at the end there will be no reward unless you complete a ridiculous task. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Ararbermas on October 30, 2024, 04:03:47 PM The trap that I have noticed on many crypto gambling sites is the ability of new customers to be able to deposit without KYC needed but when they want to withdraw, they will need to get verified. But this can be avoided if you read the gambling site ToS. same with my experienced .Because i used to follow and join a gambling sites that offer freerolls and good terms and conditions for bettors, that for me as well seems fair coz there's no additional requirements such providing ids and etc. but without knowing they don't mentioned it and it will occur on withdrawal, ;D wherin that's the time they will ask for verification and personal information, in order to continue the transaction.lol so mostly is trap . Much better to make research first. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Marykeller on October 30, 2024, 06:35:10 PM When it's too obvious, it's a trap that simply means deceit or hidden risk. Bringing that phrase into gambling can be regarded as a honey trap that gambling sites give out to lure bettors to bet with them; after they have bet with them, they reveal their hidden conditions.
Another trap that gambling sites set for bettors is giving fantastic odds that will be way high, which will serve in a way to encourage bettors to bet with such odds, whereby in reality, the odds won't fall in good prediction. It's all a trap to make them lose their bets. Almost all gambling sites have hidden plans they don't want gamblers to know about when they try to give hot streaks, big odds promotions, and bonuses. To them, this is a way to get to gamblers by giving offers that will entice them while having a hidden agenda to make them lose more. It's pitiful that most gamblers that sees this, as a trap arrange for them "to lose'' not to actually win as thought by many who are carried away with what to win if they should stake with huge amount. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: crwth on October 30, 2024, 08:00:15 PM Hmm. Initially, what I thought of this "too obvious" thing is that if the odds are kinda weird with the matches that I know and have reference odds from other bookies, it might be a cheating thing if that were to be the case. It might be a trap by the bookmakers.
I think it applies to everything. The topic of this post. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on October 30, 2024, 08:08:18 PM From my experience, the trap there comes to mind if perhaps a casino is offering a huge bonus which maybe your think that it's not possible that the casino can just easily give off such amounts as bonus, then it's a trap. Secondly in sports, some odds looks very tempting but when it's very obvious, then just be aware it could be a trap too.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: HONDACD125 on October 30, 2024, 08:09:42 PM When I read that, what comes into my mind directly are the bonuses offered by new casino platforms to lure in customers. Many people, especially those who are new to online gambling, don't understand how these bonuses are given, they don't read the terms and services, and as soon as they read "300% bonus on first deposit" etc., they think that they are going to get 300% of what they are going to deposit and then will make a larger withdraw than what they have deposited.
A casino will never show you how much rollover a certain bonus has unless you read the complete terms and conditions of the promotions, and mostly, the rollover is so high that no matter how hard you try, you will barely be able to complete the rollover before you lose everything including your initial deposit. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Mpamaegbu on October 30, 2024, 08:45:22 PM True, I'm one of those who've this mentality of anything that looks too good to be true is a trap. In occasions where I've applied this rule of thumb, I turned out vindicated.
When the promotion is too good to be true, that will be a trap for a gambler who doesn't wants to search for more info. They will not listen to others while they only wants to participates on that promotion. If that is the case, they will just get in the trap and not have a chance to get anything. Even if gamblers do all the research there's, scamming casinos have ways of hiding their secret and that may take a lot of deep looking to even nail one. That people fall victim to such doesn't necessarily mean they don't try their best searching and doing their researches.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: the rise on October 30, 2024, 09:13:50 PM The trap that I often encounter is, big bonuses & deposits do not require KYC, in the end, the bonus will be locked with unreasonable wager conditions, most people who take this bonus feel cheated, and when we make a withdrawal suddenly they ask for KYC, how cunning they are
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Agbamoni on October 30, 2024, 10:44:54 PM I think you are definitely talking about sports betting, there are selections that are of a very low value, they can be very sure and captivating enough to get a lot of gamblers attention, these are part of their schemes and traps to lure you into making the wrong choices. Playing sports betting for a long time has taught me this. Just like you said when it's too obvious then it's definitely a trap. When it seems like that selection is too sure to pick the best thing for you to do is pick something random because that might be a way to escape the mind games of the bookies. A gambler can only fall for the trap if he doesn't look at the game twice before placing a bet. Selections that are low are considered to be less risky and they get a lot of attention, but it mostly turns out right. The only scenario where it looks a bit more of a trap is a case where the odds for a selection on a normal day were supposed to be low, but it seems higher so that it will drive so many gamblers to pick it. I got to see that last week when I was selecting games for EPL matches. But I knew it was a trap, so I left it and exactly the odd cut. Another trap that gambling sites set for bettors is giving fantastic odds that will be way high, which will serve in a way to encourage bettors to bet with such odds, whereby in reality, the odds won't fall in good prediction. It's all a trap to make them lose their bets. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: avp2306 on October 30, 2024, 11:16:06 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. If there's something you don't understand on what has been written in terms you can just simply google translate the meaning of it into your local language so that there would be no confusion gonna happen and to make sure that you understand every details on that information you read. Proper understanding the rules is important since it can really save up time and also we can avoid any potential problems. Although there are casinos who use tricky English words that's why we really need to exert effort to verify each information we read. But if we know the common rules putted by casino for sure we would never do those something we think illegal and better always gamble with clean to avoid problems. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Hispo on October 30, 2024, 11:26:01 PM To me it evokes casinos which are relatively unknown or small and try to attract gamblers using unrealistic or too-good-to-be true deposit bonuses, for me bonuses which go beyond two hundred percent could be considered to be red flag, but that is a personal opinion.
I have also seen people who fall for scams which usually use so-called fixed matches or some alledged hacker which needs your money to further exploit a casino and take all the money within their trunks.That is specially common on Telegram. A neighbor of mine almost fell for it but I let him know it was just a scam and he was going to lose his money as soon as he deposited his money in such shady casino in order to try to "exploit" it for profit. Indeed, if something seems too good to be true, it probably isnt. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Pi-network314159 on October 31, 2024, 02:59:31 AM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. It is obviously when something is too good to be true, just like fallen a trap of honey pot. I know that since this topic is raised in the gambling section it would only be a statement pointing towards gambling.I know there are many forms of Such trap but I will say when offer is being made by those who called themselves prediction expert, telling people to pay certain fee to be given bookies every week as a sure odd for winning when they know there is no sure odd or sure win. Then it's too obviously a trap. Because they are making money from people ignorance, that is the aspect I am seeing it from. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on October 31, 2024, 03:36:36 AM When the promotion is too good to be true, that will be a trap for a gambler who doesn't wants to search for more info. They will not listen to others while they only wants to participates on that promotion. If that is the case, they will just get in the trap and not have a chance to get anything. In all sincerity, every scam or trap always has a loophole to it's proposed activity but the loophole is always overlooked by our greedy instincts to reap massively where we didn't sow. Greed is what lures many suspecting and unsuspecting individuals into patronizing scam activities recently. It would interest you that there are some scammers who include certain games in their casino site which can't be found in any other casino, so you would deposit into them, play the games they have to you under the pretence of fixed game and finally prevent you from withdrawing your winnings because those games never existed in the first place. We ought to always research any major activity we're embarking on to be sure it's not a drop of honey positioned tho attract as much ants as possible. And most importantly, don't uphold greed when making major decisions.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: gunhell16 on October 31, 2024, 04:03:33 AM The trap that I have noticed on many crypto gambling sites is the ability of new customers to be able to deposit without KYC needed but when they want to withdraw, they will need to get verified. But this can be avoided if you read the gambling site ToS. Since I have been using many gambling sites, there is nothing that is a trap for me. Just read the rules, use reputed gambling sites and you will be fine. You said this I often read in other complainants here in our forum that most players complain about on the casino platform. In which there are actually new gambling platforms emerging here in the crypto gambling business. That's why it's good to play crypto gambling casinos that have been operating their business for several years in this field industry of cryptocurrency, such as duelbitz, livecasino, rollbit and others that we see here in this forum. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: MrEazyLife on October 31, 2024, 05:15:49 AM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. My understanding in this in aspect is this. Imagine joining a sport betting group or platform as one who is looking for a place to get sure games, you end up in such platform which has so many testimonials. This might entice one to believe it’s that easy to make money from betting. They end up posting slips from different people who has won, or even edit slips and post them just to get people’s attention. Now immediately after joining you end up seeing the true outcome of what they do. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: EarnOnVictor on October 31, 2024, 05:56:19 AM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. You would have done it better by explaining it more than this, I am sure many people might misrepresent it.Well, I've tried as much as possible to steer clear of casino bonuses and offers due to some terms and conditions and I've seen it carefully planned with many of their betting offers which will always turn out to be in their favour and never in the favour of the gambler. But the ambiguity of the offer and the intended rewards always cloud people's judgment, but not me, I make enough considerations and calculations before opting for any unusual offers. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: maydna on October 31, 2024, 06:04:57 AM ~snip~ Even if gamblers do all the research there's, scamming casinos have ways of hiding their secret and that may take a lot of deep looking to even nail one. That people fall victim to such doesn't necessarily mean they don't try their best searching and doing their researches.~snip~ In all sincerity, every scam or trap always has a loophole to it's proposed activity but the loophole is always overlooked by our greedy instincts to reap massively where we didn't sow. Greed is what lures many suspecting and unsuspecting individuals into patronizing scam activities recently. It would interest you that there are some scammers who include certain games in their casino site which can't be found in any other casino, so you would deposit into them, play the games they have to you under the pretence of fixed game and finally prevent you from withdrawing your winnings because those games never existed in the first place. We ought to always research any major activity we're embarking on to be sure it's not a drop of honey positioned tho attract as much ants as possible. And most importantly, don't uphold greed when making major decisions.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: dansus021 on October 31, 2024, 06:33:05 AM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. Most likely it is a trap as things who are to good to be true example is big bonuses & deposits do not require KYC, in the end, the bonus will be locked with unreasonable wager conditions like you win 100 USD but to withdraw that you need wager at least 10K USD its obviously a joke. You know that bonuses offered by new casino platforms to lure in customers but sometimes it just don't make any sense. Well like you have said When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: _act_ on October 31, 2024, 07:10:58 PM My understanding in this in aspect is this. Imagine joining a sport betting group or platform as one who is looking for a place to get sure games, you end up in such platform which has so many testimonials. This might entice one to believe it’s that easy to make money from betting. They end up posting slips from different people who has won, or even edit slips and post them just to get people’s attention. Now immediately after joining you end up seeing the true outcome of what they do. I have a friend that have joined a group and do say something good about them. I decided not to join a group because I prefer to make use of some prediction sites but which I will not use to bet directly but to see some matches which I can analyze to know if truly the team would win. That my friend always talk about people on the group that always win. But I noticed that my friend is losing than winning. But his problem is that he can bet on 5 matches or more on a single bet which I think is related to what your posted about winning ans posting of the betting slip and while some can be fake. All those group can not be helpful at all if you do not know the right steps to take while betting.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on October 31, 2024, 08:43:24 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. In another word the statement "When it's too obvious, it's a trap" can also be referred as "When it's too good to be true, it's a trap", which has always been a common statement in all investment and Gambling platforms, forum or community, which emphasis on the need for people to be always cautious when dealing with products or services that seems too good to be true (i.e offering a 1000% welcome bonus) or for an investment platforms (i.e offering a 100% return of investment in 3-5days), which is a strategy must scammers do use to lure people into falling victim to such offer that seems too good to be true.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: uneng on October 31, 2024, 09:05:39 PM What I understand from the mentioned phrase is that you should avoid matches which look too obvious or easy to be won, because the odds just don't worth the potential profit you are going to make. As an example, I can mention bets which pay 1.1x or even a lower multiplier. You are going to make only 10% profit or less, and in the end the underdog can still overcome the favorite. I've already seen it happening many times, especially in Tennis sport. At first time, I didn't understand how the favorite could lose so often, but later I realized it was indeed a trap...
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: tread93 on October 31, 2024, 09:13:03 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. Parish phrases can really tell the difference. But here's a breakdown of how I understand some of the most common phrases. Public betting refers to bets made by ordinary bettors who usually support popular teams or players. which can influence bets or “line movement” as the sportsbook adjusts itself to balance the money on both sides “Fade into the public” is a strategy in which long-term bettors conflict with the choices of the general public. and bet on positions where they see real value instead of following the crowd. The idea is that if the majority goes in one direction, Sports magazines also tend to balance their odds to reflect the biases of the masses. “Dirty money” is another term used to refer to bets made by professional bookmakers or highly regarded bookmakers. high which relies on social media This may sometimes result in "backward moves" where the odds are shifted away from where most of the public money is Finally, betting guidelines focus on specific issues related to the game, such as travel plans player injury or even the weather.For some people, this is a different form of betting, and it's so because these factors are a little more influential over a player's performance. That's what you must have read; now tell me if this information resonates with the others, or there are other words to look into? Which would you like to dig up? I am definitely interested in these strategies and you have really now inspired me to do a little more gambling research of my own. I am more a fan of the fading into the public approach myself. I wonder what other strategies there are that prove to be effective. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Julien_Olynpic on November 01, 2024, 02:19:15 AM In my opinion, the biggest trap for a player is his own false beliefs. For example, a person can convince himself that winning in games based entirely on luck is easy. Although it is difficult to win even in those games where there is a possibility of limited analysis, that is, in sports betting. These false beliefs lead the player to a slow loss of the deposit. Other traps are related to a false understanding of KYC procedures. Usually, advertising claims that the casino is KYC-free, but passing this procedure may be required to receive the winnings if you win. There are also traps related to incorrectly assessing the odds
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: danherbias07 on November 01, 2024, 04:54:22 AM In my opinion, the biggest trap for a player is his own false beliefs. For example, a person can convince himself that winning in games based entirely on luck is easy. Although it is difficult to win even in those games where there is a possibility of limited analysis, that is, in sports betting. These false beliefs lead the player to a slow loss of the deposit. Other traps are related to a false understanding of KYC procedures. Usually, advertising claims that the casino is KYC-free, but passing this procedure may be required to receive the winnings if you win. There are also traps related to incorrectly assessing the odds It is truly difficult to win games, especially in sports betting. It's a 50-50 chance even if you do analysis, actually, the chance might be lower because the odds will somehow trick you into thinking that the other team or player is a favorite although the truth could be he or that team has a higher losing chance. These are the traps that are not easy to understand because of the odds trying to confuse us on what choice we should make. The analysis will play a big part and also those who are experienced with the sport that have been following and betting for their entire gambling life. Still, we cannot expect a high percentage of winning because teams are changing, rosters, coaches, and chemistry, which can affect the results of a game. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Wiwo on November 01, 2024, 05:26:34 AM Trap in the concept of sport betting that me, you s when you see a team that is very weak playing against a stronger team but yet they are giving smaller odds and the stronger team is giving the bigger odds, this is a pour trap and vmbook makers does this to deceive bettors into choosing the wrong team based on the odds and eventually losing along the line, this is the most commonly trap that I have noticed in gambling a d also another trap is when you register on a new casino, and you start betting as you begin you begin with winnings, and continues with the winning until you discover that you are just trapped when you lose everything including all that you have won previously.
This could also be applicable to trading too, as Gozie pointed out, in some instances when you buy at high price with the thought that the trend will continue but suprisely you see a deeper market action, this could be a killer trap too. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Ojima-ojo on November 01, 2024, 09:34:30 PM The trap that I have noticed on many crypto gambling sites is the ability of new customers to be able to deposit without KYC needed but when they want to withdraw, they will need to get verified. But this can be avoided if you read the gambling site ToS. Why do casinos really do this all the time, because most times, depositing into the casino is more easier than withdrawing and sometimes same rules are not applied to both deposits and withdrawal, and some casinos even goes as far as making strong rules about withdrawal such rules like, wagering requirements on all deposits and even KYC mandatory on attempt to withdraw from those casinos, all this makes the look and sound suspective in operations and as if their are just out to take from gamblers and restricting their ability to withdraw without meeting those requirements. Since I have been using many gambling sites, there is nothing that is a trap for me. Just read the rules, use reputed gambling sites and you will be fine. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Furious 7 on November 01, 2024, 09:51:44 PM Actually for now I have never felt faced with a trap in a bet because from the beginning I avoided choosing gambling sites and of course reading the T&C on a site that I wanted to play.
Sometimes there are a lot of people who feel trapped by some sites because they are not careful in choosing the site and do not read the rules that apply on the site such as some people who sometimes complain about not being able to withdraw but without realizing that it happens because they have violations and do not comply with the rules on the site. So in this case I think we will not be trapped in betting or on betting sites if we are really observant in determining the site we will visit or understand the rules in it. When it is not fulfilled, it will bring up several problems that cause us to feel trapped or maybe even feel that the site is a scam. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Orpichukwu on November 01, 2024, 10:08:29 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. Since there is no specific area that the statement is pointing at, let me just add this part in some casino promotion like Bet88u, where the ads are all over my local media.The ads are too good to be true, where you can spin the free wheel and win up to $17 is their minimum withdrawal (30,000#). From the ads, you can see those who reach that level real quick, but if you try it out yourself once you reach the $29,995 level, it's hard to reach the minimum, trying to manipulate someone to deposit in order to reach the minimum. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Ultegra134 on November 01, 2024, 10:52:11 PM Actually for now I have never felt faced with a trap in a bet because from the beginning I avoided choosing gambling sites and of course reading the T&C on a site that I wanted to play. I believe that some people are indirectly tricked into joining casinos after being prompted by random blogs or websites promoting them. Let me clarify: a quick Google search of no KYC casinos will yield plenty of results from random websites that promote their referral links, advertising known casinos, often found here on the forum, as KYC-free, only to realize after depositing that they're not. I'm guessing that this is a common trick websites use to gain traffic and earn money from commissions, and it's totally working because a large number of users don't even go through the TOS and are lured into a misconception.Sometimes there are a lot of people who feel trapped by some sites because they are not careful in choosing the site and do not read the rules that apply on the site such as some people who sometimes complain about not being able to withdraw but without realizing that it happens because they have violations and do not comply with the rules on the site. So in this case I think we will not be trapped in betting or on betting sites if we are really observant in determining the site we will visit or understand the rules in it. When it is not fulfilled, it will bring up several problems that cause us to feel trapped or maybe even feel that the site is a scam. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Weawant on November 01, 2024, 10:54:50 PM Not having to do KYC, extravagant bonuses, some unrealistic expectations and promises around what is obtainable on certain platforms would be the thing we could see and know that there's a deliberate act to probably lure people in and change policies or bring up the hidden terms that weren't made obvious just before then but another would be the big jackpot promise without a wining history, just always check out for the reputation pf the casino to be sure.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Jody.Drummer on November 01, 2024, 11:17:49 PM In my opinion, the biggest trap for a player is his own false beliefs. For example, a person can convince himself that winning in games based entirely on luck is easy. Although it is difficult to win even in those games where there is a possibility of limited analysis, that is, in sports betting. These false beliefs lead the player to a slow loss of the deposit. Other traps are related to a false understanding of KYC procedures. Usually, advertising claims that the casino is KYC-free, but passing this procedure may be required to receive the winnings if you win. There are also traps related to incorrectly assessing the odds It seems like this is the most common thing that happens to everyone who wants to gamble, most likely most people definitely think that they can confidently get victory or profit easily, whether it's thinking it's easy because of luck or strategy but I'm sure this is the most common thing that happens to gamblers. The difficulty of being able to win at gambling is a reality, I even think that with sports betting and games that are purely based on luck it is more difficult to find victory in games that are purely based on luck. I think the main thing is in the gambler's own thinking, when he thinks that he can win easily this is what makes him trapped, it's no wonder that many people experience losses or addiction because their own mindset leads them to an unfavorable point.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Miles2006 on November 01, 2024, 11:43:24 PM The high probability set winning large amount is just too scary for me, most of the time games with high chances or high odds don’t go as planned. After little period of time you’ll be tempted to cash out because of fear and at same time looking at the game you don’t want to miss any chance so cashing out is valid, currently I’m not the only one complaining about high odds but I have seen few people win.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: o48o on November 02, 2024, 12:03:13 AM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. That's probably about advertising. Promising huge bonuses and free spins, while terms and conditions actually require for depositing more and gambling fortunes to get even fraction of these bonuses.I once have fallen into one of these. I thought i won free spins in one obscure casino. When i played them i "won" significant amount of money, but in order to withdraw it, i would have needed to play a fortune with my own money first, and any way i tried to calculate it, it wasn't going to be profitable. Luckily that casino messed up before it died and accidentally gave people some money, that they were free to cash out. I felt i earned it as i was mislead by their advertising anyway. They lasted maybe week after that before they went 404. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: ethereumhunter on November 02, 2024, 09:50:29 AM The high probability set winning large amount is just too scary for me, most of the time games with high chances or high odds don’t go as planned. After little period of time you’ll be tempted to cash out because of fear and at same time looking at the game you don’t want to miss any chance so cashing out is valid, currently I’m not the only one complaining about high odds but I have seen few people win. If they are too afraid of losing their win money before, they will cash out the win money and leave the casino. But we know that gambling can tempt them to keep playing gambling and will not thinks that can makes them lose all of their money. When it's too obvious, they will thinks that is a trap for them to spends their win money and expect to win and if someone don't have a strong control, they will not stop instead will keep playing gambling. They don't care about the trap that can makes them lose their money because they are tempts to win more and more. Keeping playing gambling can be a trap for them so we must still aware no matter what is our condition so we can decide with right and not risks our money to still playing gambling.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Furious 7 on November 02, 2024, 05:47:51 PM Actually for now I have never felt faced with a trap in a bet because from the beginning I avoided choosing gambling sites and of course reading the T&C on a site that I wanted to play. I believe that some people are indirectly tricked into joining casinos after being prompted by random blogs or websites promoting them. Let me clarify: a quick Google search of no KYC casinos will yield plenty of results from random websites that promote their referral links, advertising known casinos, often found here on the forum, as KYC-free, only to realize after depositing that they're not. I'm guessing that this is a common trick websites use to gain traffic and earn money from commissions, and it's totally working because a large number of users don't even go through the TOS and are lured into a misconception.Sometimes there are a lot of people who feel trapped by some sites because they are not careful in choosing the site and do not read the rules that apply on the site such as some people who sometimes complain about not being able to withdraw but without realizing that it happens because they have violations and do not comply with the rules on the site. So in this case I think we will not be trapped in betting or on betting sites if we are really observant in determining the site we will visit or understand the rules in it. When it is not fulfilled, it will bring up several problems that cause us to feel trapped or maybe even feel that the site is a scam. This kind of thing we cannot prevent because we do not have the ability to do so but of course we can minimize ourselves (if we are gamblers) from being exposed to cheap tricks like this by always being careful in choosing gambling sites. There are still many gambling sites that eventually become a benchmark even without KYC and in this forum there are also several sites that still prioritize Non KYC so in the end accuracy is important so that we don't regret feeling cheated just because of the cheap trap from fake sites. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Jaycoinz on November 02, 2024, 06:28:15 PM I staked on the match between Bournemouth and Manchester city today, the obvious choice was man city to win, they had more advantage because the odds of the bookies were in their favour but unfortunately Bournemouth won the match. A lot of people picked city to win because that was the obvious and best selection, but just like the topic says when it's too obvious it's a trap. This is why you can't really predict a game by the odds no matter how small it might seem, even the smallest odd us capable of having a different outcome from the option you picked.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Findingnemo on November 02, 2024, 06:35:37 PM I feel some casinos uses bonus as a trapping mechanism, let's say the deposit bonus which people fail to read the fine print got stuck with wagering amount that is not possible to complete and claim the bonus or utilize it which is one of the reason I just ignore any bonus and promotional events, I like to keep things without adding any pressure.
KYC can be used as tool to prevent users from paying rewards, only few casinos do that by giving impossible to complete verification instead of the usual. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: alani123 on November 02, 2024, 09:12:07 PM If a deposit bonus seems too good, it probably is.
Read into the terms and you will realize it's most probably a trap. Most deposit bonuses have been completely canceled because they had the opposite effect in people, ending up to trust the casino even less. So yeah, this is a obvious one but there's also ones like how fair and random some games are. Oftentimes casinos will have their own original games or variations of popular ones. But if they are not provably fair why should you trust them not to be rigged? This is a common trick in shoddy casinos against newbie players. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: mirakal on November 02, 2024, 11:58:22 PM If a deposit bonus seems too good, it probably is. Everything that seems too good to be true seems not right at all. And often times we experience this in unreliable casinos where games are mostly rigged, that's why gamblers should gamble cautiously at all cost. Otherwise, if you let yourself fall on the traps because you were very busy trying to chase your greed for money, you will definitely lose and regret in the end. In fact, gambling itself is a trap itself, you just have to play the games wisely and smartly.Read into the terms and you will realize it's most probably a trap. Most deposit bonuses have been completely canceled because they had the opposite effect in people, ending up to trust the casino even less. So yeah, this is a obvious one but there's also ones like how fair and random some games are. Oftentimes casinos will have their own original games or variations of popular ones. But if they are not provably fair why should you trust them not to be rigged? This is a common trick in shoddy casinos against newbie players. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Japinat on November 03, 2024, 02:51:47 PM The concept of "traps" in betting is largely a myth driven by cognitive biases like the gambler's fallacy and the human love for narrative. Sports betting outcomes are probabilistic, not predictable, and market efficiency means obvious "traps" would be quickly exploited, correcting the odds. What might seem like a "trap" is often just a misunderstanding of odds or a search for patterns where none exist. Betting should be approached with statistical analysis, not by avoiding imagined "traps." :) There's no definite basis for it; it's more of a speculation among gamblers. But surprisingly, it sometimes works, which is why it's popular with sports betting enthusiasts. I occasionally misinterpret a line, thinking it's a trap, and that can cost me money. Still, that's all part of the learning experience. What's truly exciting is that while betting on sports, we pick up various terminologies that deepen our interest. Ultimately, the most important thing is to stick to what you believe in and focus on the outcomes, as they matter more than any particular strategy. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Smartprofit on November 03, 2024, 07:06:13 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. Most gambling is based on the mathematical theory of probability. This theory is unique in its own way - at one time it was developed exclusively for gamblers. The problem is that most people are not able to accurately calculate probabilities in their minds. Calculating probabilities is a fairly abstract task. In the process of evolution, human ancestors did not face the need to solve such problems. Let's take, for example, a classic problem of mathematical probability theory - how many times do you need to throw two dice so that a bet on the simultaneous appearance of at least two sixes is profitable? Most people are not able to solve this problem correctly. A mathematician who knows probability theory will solve this problem in 1 minute. That is why pseudo-obvious things in gambling are usually mental traps. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: DaNNy001 on November 03, 2024, 10:00:29 PM When gambling there are options that always look very enticing but those ones are the most dangerous to pick because its actually a trap..This is why I don't pick an option in gambling based on the number of odds, when the odds are very small we feel absolutely safe at that point you are already in a psychological trap. When it's too obvious it's definitely a trap, But this always seem to be case, you can't get trapped in every situation,. This is probably your terrible experience with gambling someone else might have something different to say about it.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Sanitough on November 04, 2024, 03:29:48 PM When gambling there are options that always look very enticing but those ones are the most dangerous to pick because its actually a trap..This is why I don't pick an option in gambling based on the number of odds, when the odds are very small we feel absolutely safe at that point you are already in a psychological trap. When it's too obvious it's definitely a trap, But this always seem to be case, you can't get trapped in every situation,. This is probably your terrible experience with gambling someone else might have something different to say about it. Regular gambler will eventually encounter situations like this, and it's not so bad as it’s a learning experience that teaches you to be more cautious in the future. Being careful means you don’t have to bet on every game; instead, stay away on the ones where you sense a potential trap. Use your mind to judge based on probability, not your heart, because repeating the same mistakes in sports betting is a surefire way to face disaster.Terms like “trap” are well-known in the sports betting community, and anyone involved in gambling recognizes the significance of this word. The best strategy when you suspect a trap is to avoid it altogether, or to bet on the other side if you’re confident in your assessment. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on November 04, 2024, 03:40:18 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. Well, without first going through comments from other users for a possible idea, how I understand the term "when it's too obvious, it's a trap" is that it's trying to tell us that when a game seems too easy and obvious to win, it's possibly a trap from the casino.But let's also not fail to know and understand this term not only applies to gambling, it applies to several other places and activities, like it is said in hyip that "when an investment opportunity appear too good to be true, it's likely not true". If we look and examine this statement well, we discover that it is exactly the same thing as the initial, through different wordings (so to say) Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: KTChampions on November 04, 2024, 03:47:12 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. During my career as a bettor I have seen many obvious results that ended in a non-obvious way, so I am not saying that some outcomes are "guaranteed". The trap is always in the odds. For example, yesterday, if I remember correctly, Barcelona's victory with a handicap of -3 was quoted at odds of around 2.4. An absolutely ridiculous quote that does not justify the risk. In the end, the game ended 3-1 and even those who bet with a handicap of -2 (with even more ridiculous odds) lost. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Accardo on November 04, 2024, 04:03:50 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. Well, without first going through comments from other users for a possible idea, how I understand the term "when it's too obvious, it's a trap" is that it's trying to tell us that when a game seems too easy and obvious to win, it's possibly a trap from the casino.But let's also not fail to know and understand this term not only applies to gambling, it applies to several other places and activities, like it is said in hyip that "when an investment opportunity appear too good to be true, it's likely not true". If we look and examine this statement well, we discover that it is exactly the same thing as the initial, through different wordings (so to say) Casinos capitalize on this strategy as lots of gamblers fall victim easily. Last weekend, I was watching an interesting game that triggered a friend's anger, because he fell for the trap that Man City would win Bournemouth, so he wagered huge amount on Cityzens to win. That was unbelievable! He lost the money. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Ultegra134 on November 05, 2024, 09:43:03 PM This is why our accuracy in choosing gambling sites is important because in the end this is a wet field considering that gambling is always in demand by many people regardless of race, gender or age so that in the end it is certain that when there is something that can be used as a profit, there will be a lot of fraud in it including fake sites that are always rampant. Personally, I haven't stumbled upon any casino that doesn't require KYC, even on the forum; perhaps I'm not paying too much attention to those; I can't say I'm interested in joining one at the moment. This goes along with what websites you visit and who you follow. People may direct you to a specific one for their own benefit; as I've said, Google will yield a large number of results for KYC-free casinos that actually aren't, not to mention the amount of fake or scam casinos out there.This kind of thing we cannot prevent because we do not have the ability to do so but of course we can minimize ourselves (if we are gamblers) from being exposed to cheap tricks like this by always being careful in choosing gambling sites. There are still many gambling sites that eventually become a benchmark even without KYC and in this forum there are also several sites that still prioritize Non KYC so in the end accuracy is important so that we don't regret feeling cheated just because of the cheap trap from fake sites. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Furious 7 on November 06, 2024, 08:49:09 PM This is why our accuracy in choosing gambling sites is important because in the end this is a wet field considering that gambling is always in demand by many people regardless of race, gender or age so that in the end it is certain that when there is something that can be used as a profit, there will be a lot of fraud in it including fake sites that are always rampant. Personally, I haven't stumbled upon any casino that doesn't require KYC, even on the forum; perhaps I'm not paying too much attention to those; I can't say I'm interested in joining one at the moment. This goes along with what websites you visit and who you follow. People may direct you to a specific one for their own benefit; as I've said, Google will yield a large number of results for KYC-free casinos that actually aren't, not to mention the amount of fake or scam casinos out there.This kind of thing we cannot prevent because we do not have the ability to do so but of course we can minimize ourselves (if we are gamblers) from being exposed to cheap tricks like this by always being careful in choosing gambling sites. There are still many gambling sites that eventually become a benchmark even without KYC and in this forum there are also several sites that still prioritize Non KYC so in the end accuracy is important so that we don't regret feeling cheated just because of the cheap trap from fake sites. Actually, when talking about online gambling sites, as long as the person can be trusted, especially for some of the big sites on this forum, I think why not because the trust is still quite guaranteed but it cannot be denied that at this time I also still believe in several sites that I have encountered on the forum, not with sites outside the forum because for me, for some influencers who introduce sites, especially new sites on social media, even though there are several people in it, I am more comfortable in several online gambling sites on the forum in the end. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Dunamisx on November 06, 2024, 09:04:20 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. As it has been commonly said, when its too real to be true, then its more likely not to be true, things comes with offers and odds or games in which we play while gambling with the hope and expectation that they are very reliable and must be 100% accurate as we have perceived, but at the end of it all, we only come to the realization of everything being as an illusion only and we couldn't achieve anything. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: yahoo62278 on November 06, 2024, 09:06:37 PM If you're referring to American football a trap or more commonly known as a trap game is a game in which a heavy favorite is playing against a bad team. The bad team is usually the team to bet on if they have reasons to play hard like division rivals, still a shot at playoffs, or something to motivate them. The line is usually heavy on the favorite and taking the points is the smart play.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Mahanton on November 06, 2024, 09:08:35 PM This is why our accuracy in choosing gambling sites is important because in the end this is a wet field considering that gambling is always in demand by many people regardless of race, gender or age so that in the end it is certain that when there is something that can be used as a profit, there will be a lot of fraud in it including fake sites that are always rampant. Personally, I haven't stumbled upon any casino that doesn't require KYC, even on the forum; perhaps I'm not paying too much attention to those; I can't say I'm interested in joining one at the moment. This goes along with what websites you visit and who you follow. People may direct you to a specific one for their own benefit; as I've said, Google will yield a large number of results for KYC-free casinos that actually aren't, not to mention the amount of fake or scam casinos out there.This kind of thing we cannot prevent because we do not have the ability to do so but of course we can minimize ourselves (if we are gamblers) from being exposed to cheap tricks like this by always being careful in choosing gambling sites. There are still many gambling sites that eventually become a benchmark even without KYC and in this forum there are also several sites that still prioritize Non KYC so in the end accuracy is important so that we don't regret feeling cheated just because of the cheap trap from fake sites. Actually, when talking about online gambling sites, as long as the person can be trusted, especially for some of the big sites on this forum, I think why not because the trust is still quite guaranteed but it cannot be denied that at this time I also still believe in several sites that I have encountered on the forum, not with sites outside the forum because for me, for some influencers who introduce sites, especially new sites on social media, even though there are several people in it, I am more comfortable in several online gambling sites on the forum in the end. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: alastantiger on November 06, 2024, 09:45:48 PM Not having to do KYC, extravagant bonuses, some unrealistic expectations and promises around what is obtainable on certain platforms would be the thing we could see and know that there's a deliberate act to probably lure people in and change policies or bring up the hidden terms that weren't made obvious just before then but another would be the big jackpot promise without a wining history, just always check out for the reputation pf the casino to be sure. Agreed, when all this are always their main focus, I avoid casinos like this. Before I start betting on any casinos, I make sure that I have completed all the verification that's required of me to use the platform without any obstruction. I hate it when I want to withdraw my prize money and I start getting all sorts of verification emails from the casino asking me to complete my kyc. All casino will need a little bit of information from you. It might not involve verifying our identity but give them sometime and you'll be asked for your kyc. It's something that they have to do whether you like it or not hence to avoid delays, I do everything at the beginning. I have seen when people whose money have been held by a casino because they don't have their kyc verified and it's so annoying but why then are they being allowed to gamble when they'll not be allowed to withdraw. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Oasisman on November 06, 2024, 09:46:55 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. Well, I think it refers to something that are too good to be true, like huge winning rate that those gambling advertisers and content creators were trying to make the people believe. Now, if this has something to do about sports betting, the odds could be the challenge here. Sometimes, odds maybe too obvious but it won't always turn out to be a trap, but most of the time is. This is where you will trust your analysis and instinct as it will going to measure your risk appetite. Odds that were setup by the book makers are actually traps lol. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Fortify on November 06, 2024, 10:05:25 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. There are many examples out there, but to pick a couple that I have seen the most.. First off is the huge welcome bonuses that some sites pretend to offer, like matching first deposit up to $5,000 or something ridiculous, yet when you look into the fine print you quickly realize that it has to be wagered so many times and/or you have such a small window to complete it, that you have slim chance of walking away with any money and likely end up losing some of your original wager amount. The other ones are the surprising odds that you might see in certain sports, even horse racing, where even the favorite can be 3x or 4x in big races, because you soon realize that there is little separating the top horses and it's a roll of the dice if you pick the right one. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: batang_bitcoin on November 06, 2024, 10:15:00 PM Google will yield a large number of results for KYC-free casinos that actually aren't, not to mention the amount of fake or scam casinos out there. This is one in my mind that whenever a casino says that they're kyc-free, they're mostly not. So with reading majority's thought about what OP is talking about, it could be a game, a hint of trapping bonuses for which is the other one that's on my mind. I have read what OPs thought about it but it's not yet enough to conclude what he really means. But I guess the good thing about such is that we've got a wide thoughts about how someone creates some certain terms in the gambling industry and we're able to give a variety of ideas about it.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Sandra_hakeem on November 06, 2024, 10:57:34 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. It's always a trap... Or, are you gonna tell me that you wagering on games without any proper simulation? If not, then any opportunity that's in sight is a TRAP. You're basically forging your way through to see how you can walk past on of those ones that's a little bit stiff... The odds are always against you; unless for some locked options that'll only tend to favor you alone as the gambler ..This is one in my mind that whenever a casino says that they're kyc-free, they're mostly not. Last thing I'd do is engage in a business with a casino that can label themselves as a KYC-free casino, only to be asked under duress and compulsion -- especially when there's a huge win. If I got nothing to hide, what's the point of forging ways into obscurity ?Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: batang_bitcoin on November 06, 2024, 11:33:07 PM This is one in my mind that whenever a casino says that they're kyc-free, they're mostly not. Last thing I'd do is engage in a business with a casino that can label themselves as a KYC-free casino, only to be asked under duress and compulsion -- especially when there's a huge win. If I got nothing to hide, what's the point of forging ways into obscurity ? Regulation and compliance on their end.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Pi-network314159 on November 07, 2024, 01:36:45 AM When gambling there are options that always look very enticing but those ones are the most dangerous to pick because its actually a trap..This is why I don't pick an option in gambling based on the number of odds, when the odds are very small we feel absolutely safe at that point you are already in a psychological trap. When it's too obvious it's definitely a trap, But this always seem to be case, you can't get trapped in every situation,. This is probably your terrible experience with gambling someone else might have something different to say about it. I will agree with your explanation, but I don't buy the idea of betting on small odd to neither be a way of excaping trap of being too obvious to be true. Because even some Small odd may also be too obvious a trap. which after you bet on it hoping to win since the odd are little, they may disappoint you. When something is too obviously a trap it's is not only when something is highly attractive but also less attractive to be true. Meaning that the lesser thing you see as an escape routes can also be a trap, but just that it may not appear so obvious.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: boty on November 07, 2024, 01:58:00 AM When gambling there are options that always look very enticing but those ones are the most dangerous to pick because its actually a trap..This is why I don't pick an option in gambling based on the number of odds, when the odds are very small we feel absolutely safe at that point you are already in a psychological trap. When it's too obvious it's definitely a trap, But this always seem to be case, you can't get trapped in every situation,. This is probably your terrible experience with gambling someone else might have something different to say about it. I will agree with your explanation, but I don't buy the idea of betting on small odd to neither be a way of excaping trap of being too obvious to be true. Because even some Small odd may also be too obvious a trap. which after you bet on it hoping to win since the odd are little, they may disappoint you. When something is too obviously a trap it's is not only when something is highly attractive but also less attractive to be true. Meaning that the lesser thing you see as an escape routes can also be a trap, but just that it may not appear so obvious.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: freedomgo on November 07, 2024, 02:31:08 AM If you're referring to American football a trap or more commonly known as a trap game is a game in which a heavy favorite is playing against a bad team. The bad team is usually the team to bet on if they have reasons to play hard like division rivals, still a shot at playoffs, or something to motivate them. The line is usually heavy on the favorite and taking the points is the smart play. A trap can be set for both the underdog and the favorite, but it usually shows up in the point spread, not the moneyline.From my understanding, if you see a game where Team A is -15 and the other team is +15, that line will often attract the public to bet on the +15, but in reality, the -15 might end up covering easily. Another example is when you see a strong team favored by just -2 against a struggling opponent, that small line could be a trap. Basically, the idea of a trap line is when a spread looks too good to be true. When the line doesn’t match what you’d expect based on team performance, it’s a warning sign that something else is at play. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: tusandii on November 07, 2024, 02:51:53 AM I think you are definitely talking about sports betting, there are selections that are of a very low value, they can be very sure and captivating enough to get a lot of gamblers attention, these are part of their schemes and traps to lure you into making the wrong choices. Playing sports betting for a long time has taught me this. Just like you said when it's too obvious then it's definitely a trap. When it seems like that selection is too sure to pick the best thing for you to do is pick something random because that might be a way to escape the mind games of the bookies. This often happens in sports betting and I have also been trapped in this game many times, in this post I will tell you about a fairly common trap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498806.msg64709998#msg64709998 I was initially quite suspicious of the PSG vs Atletico Madrid match even though in this match it is clear that Atletico Madrid is also a fairly strong club in the UCL but playing away at PSG headquarters the bookie gives odds @6.60 while PSG @1.48 isn't that a very obvious trap? if bettors don't pay attention to the club that is PSG's opponent, indirectly many of them bet on PSG with a fairly convincing chance of winning but the results you can see for yourself Atletico Madrid won with the high odds given by the bookie this is clearly a trap that tricks sports bettors.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Russlenat on November 07, 2024, 12:05:25 PM As it has been commonly said, when its too real to be true, then its more likely not to be true, things comes with offers and odds or games in which we play while gambling with the hope and expectation that they are very reliable and must be 100% accurate as we have perceived, but at the end of it all, we only come to the realization of everything being as an illusion only and we couldn't achieve anything. With that mindset, you can spot traps more easily. But trap lines don’t show up every day, they’re rare opportunities. To win in the long run, you still need to analyze the regular lines and make the right picks daily. Most gamblers only realize it was a trap after the game is over. And sometimes, we think it’s a trap, bet on the other side, and still end up being wrong.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Sandra_hakeem on November 07, 2024, 04:35:48 PM This often happens in sports betting and I have also been trapped in this game many times, in this post I will tell you about a fairly common trap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498806.msg64709998#msg64709998 I was initially quite suspicious of the PSG vs Atletico Madrid match even though in this match it is clear that Atletico Madrid is also a fairly strong club in the UCL but playing away at PSG headquarters the bookie gives odds @6.60 while PSG @1.48 isn't that a very obvious trap? if bettors don't pay attention to the club that is PSG's opponent, indirectly many of them bet on PSG with a fairly convincing chance of winning but the results you can see for yourself Atletico Madrid won with the high odds given by the bookie this is clearly a trap that tricks sports bettors. That's a very good, old trickery that works perfectly fine for them... They're not gonna set up a match with alot of insight as to how it'll end already... That would mean -- giving you a double-edged advantage against the casinos - that's a typical example of the TRICK/TRAP in the game. Who's gonna wager on a 6.60 odds against a 1.48? Isn't that a little bit insane to think of? Lol... Most gamblers only realize it was a trap after the game is over. And sometimes, we think it’s a trap, bet on the other side, and still end up being wrong. Meanwhile, most gamblers don't even know these traps and how the casinos manipulate the odds... Whenever they come across a game with a somewhat imbalance odd, they tend to wager against the bigger ones....I've read through alot of comments in here and most people think this is all about casino games alone. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Ultegra134 on November 07, 2024, 08:25:44 PM This is one in my mind that whenever a casino says that they're kyc-free, they're mostly not. So with reading majority's thought about what OP is talking about, it could be a game, a hint of trapping bonuses for which is the other one that's on my mind. I have read what OPs thought about it but it's not yet enough to conclude what he really means. But I guess the good thing about such is that we've got a wide thoughts about how someone creates some certain terms in the gambling industry and we're able to give a variety of ideas about it. Casinos usually aren't to blame in this case; it's mostly people who have created a hypothetically informative website to promote their referral links by disguising it as a blog. While this isn't negative in any way, claiming that a casino is KYC-free when it's not is misinformation, and it's deliberate either to promote their referral links or the casino is paying them for endorsement.In any case, I have greater peace of mind when the casino where I'm participating is regulated; although it doesn't necessarily mean much, I believe that they are easier to trust. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 08, 2024, 06:00:57 PM The trap that I can see in a casino, that is relatively new and that promises good profits and that people win with a minimum deposit , the trap is when they say that the Withdrawal is after the KYC and when they verify it manually , that for me means an imminent scam, so in view of these things according to my experience it is very obvious and easy to determine that it is a scam, so far I have not been wrong with that type of things.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: 0t3p0t on November 08, 2024, 06:11:56 PM Too good to be true offers and promos are actually an obvious trap but unfortunately there are still gamblers that fall to that kind of advertisements. I personally fall for this I think when I was just a newbie to online gambling. Though this happened mostly online but there are still incidents of it getting used on gambling booth though it's legit like the lottery but yeah odds of winning is like 1%. Online gambling uses all the eye catching techniques that fools us and yet some of us still fall for this trap.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Jewan420 on November 08, 2024, 06:27:29 PM The biggest trap of online gambling establishments is the advertisement, which shows that you can earn more money by playing some simple games and you will own a lot of money in a few days. Online casinos place these ads more in places where money is scarce and education rates are very low. Minors and some uneducated people who do not have much knowledge about these things fall into these traps the most. When they start playing the games there is some profit to entice them in the first place which is their second trap. Later they extort money from that customer, not knowing about these scams, they continue to gamble with the hope of profit as in the first case until they run out of money and lose.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Sanitough on November 09, 2024, 07:23:10 AM The biggest trap of online gambling establishments is the advertisement, which shows that you can earn more money by playing some simple games and you will own a lot of money in a few days. Gamblers who get trapped by these kinds of ads are usually the ones who don’t really understand gambling. Advertisements are normal, it's what casinos do to attract players...but if we’re responsible, we should know what’s realistic and what’s not. Most of those who get hooked are the ones who are greedy, betting big money but relying purely on luck.But that's not really the main point of the discussion, because if you check the first pages, this is actually about sports betting, where there are lines that we can call obvious traps, but casual sports bettors usually don’t notice them. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: EarnOnVictor on November 09, 2024, 11:07:47 AM As it has been commonly said, when its too real to be true, then its more likely not to be true, things comes with offers and odds or games in which we play while gambling with the hope and expectation that they are very reliable and must be 100% accurate as we have perceived, but at the end of it all, we only come to the realization of everything being as an illusion only and we couldn't achieve anything. With that mindset, you can spot traps more easily. But trap lines don’t show up every day, they’re rare opportunities. To win in the long run, you still need to analyze the regular lines and make the right picks daily. Most gamblers only realize it was a trap after the game is over. And sometimes, we think it’s a trap, bet on the other side, and still end up being wrong.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Russlenat on November 09, 2024, 11:59:46 AM Am I missing something? Trap detection after the game is over? Then it was not a trap sincerely, it is what just happened, only that the loss may make anyone feel off. This trap of thing is just a subjective inclination, no one is trapping anyone if you are not playing a trap game...lol. Just do your due diligence and not rely on the odds you see. This is all about making your analysis and opting for the right predictions regularly off the line and what the bookies eventually resolved to offer on that bet. Simple! Only regular and long-term sports bettors will get what I’m saying. If a gambler just comments based on what they read, they won’t really relate to what’s happening in the real gambling world. It all depends on the bettor’s judgment actually, some might say a line is a trap, while others don’t see it that way. Sometimes, when you’re gambling and spot a line that seems like a trap but still follow the public bet because it looks easy, you end up losing. That’s when you realize it was a trap, and you fell for it. Wait, are we on the same page here?Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Gheka on November 09, 2024, 01:38:25 PM The biggest trap of online gambling establishments is the advertisement, which shows that you can earn more money by playing some simple games and you will own a lot of money in a few days. Online casinos place these ads more in places where money is scarce and education rates are very low. Minors and some uneducated people who do not have much knowledge about these things fall into these traps the most. When they start playing the games there is some profit to entice them in the first place which is their second trap. Later they extort money from that customer, not knowing about these scams, they continue to gamble with the hope of profit as in the first case until they run out of money and lose. The biggest trap can only be the psychological trap, the trap of desire that a person sets in the game, I don't know how everyone's level is but except for casino advertisements, we also have correct advertisements such as prevention and restriction. There are two such extremes but players are only choosing one side of gambling to follow, if to complain about this trap, we should clearly look back at our own vigilance, although casinos have many tricks to get customers to advance more money, to be exact, people cannot overcome their desires and suppress their greed, we are actively losing and getting trapped.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Woodie on November 09, 2024, 01:58:29 PM I think based on what I read on most scam accusations on the forum, one of the things that can be termed as a trap is the play without KYC on a licensed casino and the deposit bonuses with their huge rollover requirements...you I have been in this position and when you deposit and start playing on these platforms, they usually never ask questions but when to remove money comes it becomes a whole different story, same thing with bonuses..some are near impossible to flip and would advise people to stay clear of bonuses...just play with your money and you should be okay.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: hahay on November 09, 2024, 02:46:41 PM I don't really consider it a trap if it's not really proven because after all, I have experience when I was busy betting on blackjack for a few days on one of the crypto gambling platforms at that time, and the results were very good. In fact, I had time to borrow money from a friend and was able to return it in just a matter of minutes because I managed to win big in a short time. Previously I didn't know if it was a trap so I would continue to bet, or maybe my lucky day.
Because after a few days passed I got a very big loss even though I was still using the same platform and also the same method in gambling. But in reality I really didn't get any wins, until finally the site announced that it would close its site and require users to withdraw all the balances. At that time I was immediately shocked, because I thought the loss I experienced was because the site was planning to close but even so, then I gave them a message and told them all the losses I had experienced. But luckily, I got a replacement for the loss I experienced during the period they planned to close the site, although not a large amount but they really seemed to be taking responsibility for it. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: mindrust on November 09, 2024, 02:54:20 PM I think based on what I read on most scam accusations on the forum, one of the things that can be termed as a trap is the play without KYC on a licensed casino and the deposit bonuses with their huge rollover requirements...you I have been in this position and when you deposit and start playing on these platforms, they usually never ask questions but when to remove money comes it becomes a whole different story, same thing with bonuses..some are near impossible to flip and would advise people to stay clear of bonuses...just play with your money and you should be okay. I wonder that too. It is almost impossible to find a casino that doesn't mention KYC anymore (tbh I don't know one at this point, the last remaining one was freebitco.in and it mentions KYC too lately) in its ToS and that's a big problem. Crypto casinos lost the war against the govs. They can't provide us any privacy because they all have a public domain name which they buy from a government agency and unless they get a domain name they can't reach us. We should be focusing on decentralized p2p gambling platforms but tbh I don't know if there is a reliable one. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Awaklara on November 09, 2024, 03:01:42 PM The biggest trap of online gambling establishments is the advertisement, which shows that you can earn more money by playing some simple games and you will own a lot of money in a few days. Online casinos place these ads more in places where money is scarce and education rates are very low. Minors and some uneducated people who do not have much knowledge about these things fall into these traps the most. When they start playing the games there is some profit to entice them in the first place which is their second trap. Later they extort money from that customer, not knowing about these scams, they continue to gamble with the hope of profit as in the first case until they run out of money and lose. The biggest trap can only be the psychological trap, the trap of desire that a person sets in the game, I don't know how everyone's level is but except for casino advertisements, we also have correct advertisements such as prevention and restriction. There are two such extremes but players are only choosing one side of gambling to follow, if to complain about this trap, we should clearly look back at our own vigilance, although casinos have many tricks to get customers to advance more money, to be exact, people cannot overcome their desires and suppress their greed, we are actively losing and getting trapped.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Doan9269 on November 09, 2024, 03:02:59 PM This is a strong warning for us to be careful before placing any bet while gambling, because there are situations whereby we see some games to be too real in failing us and what we get as a result is the opposite, this kind of risk is what we are going to always have in mind when gambling, that there is high probability for making loss than win when gambling, even on games we are very confidence of playing.
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Jawhead999 on November 09, 2024, 03:06:01 PM This often happens in sports betting and I have also been trapped in this game many times, in this post I will tell you about a fairly common trap. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5498806.msg64709998#msg64709998 I was initially quite suspicious of the PSG vs Atletico Madrid match even though in this match it is clear that Atletico Madrid is also a fairly strong club in the UCL but playing away at PSG headquarters the bookie gives odds @6.60 while PSG @1.48 isn't that a very obvious trap? if bettors don't pay attention to the club that is PSG's opponent, indirectly many of them bet on PSG with a fairly convincing chance of winning but the results you can see for yourself Atletico Madrid won with the high odds given by the bookie this is clearly a trap that tricks sports bettors. What exactly it's a trap? if someone think both PSG and Atletico Madrid are almost equal, which mean Atletico Madrid has a higher chance to win, bettors should be bet on Atletico Madrid because the reward is higher and the risk is same like betting PSG to win, but with low reward. In that match, PSG actually really dominating the pitch, so I don't see bookies are wrong for predicting PSG is high likely to win, they were just unlucky. I wonder that too. It is almost impossible to find a casino that doesn't mention KYC anymore (tbh I don't know one at this point, the last remaining one was freebitco.in and it mentions KYC too lately) in its ToS and that's a big problem. There's still one who didn't ask KYC in their terms, they have an active campaign too.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Yatsan on November 09, 2024, 03:06:26 PM The phrase is more common with gambling platforms in particular with those which are offering unrealistic bonuses and rewards. For sure we heard enough stories of people getting scammed by new gambling sites and they're guilty that they've been tricked by these offers. In some instances this phrase could also be applicable with fixed matches or ways being offered to cheat on the platform; there would be people offering signals in exchange for a fee and the likes. These will all boil down to the idea that there's no easy money on gambling industry; everything's a trap if you will be pushing to find ways to win easily.
Too good to be true offers and promos are actually an obvious trap but unfortunately there are still gamblers that fall to that kind of advertisements. I personally fall for this I think when I was just a newbie to online gambling. Though this happened mostly online but there are still incidents of it getting used on gambling booth though it's legit like the lottery but yeah odds of winning is like 1%. Online gambling uses all the eye catching techniques that fools us and yet some of us still fall for this trap. Even long term gamblers are still falling from these schemes because it has something to do with one's drive. Many people are frustrated of how difficult winning is in gambling games so they are being vulnerable to things which are suspicious in general perspective. It happens in different forms but with one goal which is to deceive those which are prone. What's best is to learn if ever you'd be once a victim to avoid its reoccurrence. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: ethereumhunter on November 09, 2024, 04:40:38 PM The biggest trap of online gambling establishments is the advertisement, which shows that you can earn more money by playing some simple games and you will own a lot of money in a few days. Online casinos place these ads more in places where money is scarce and education rates are very low. Minors and some uneducated people who do not have much knowledge about these things fall into these traps the most. When they start playing the games there is some profit to entice them in the first place which is their second trap. Later they extort money from that customer, not knowing about these scams, they continue to gamble with the hope of profit as in the first case until they run out of money and lose. When you see the gambling advertisement, your minds will comes about how easy to win in gambling. That can makes you curious with the win so you will visit the casino, make an account and start deposit some money. Whether you lose that money or win the money, your minds will thinks to return to casino in the next days and also thinks that can I win more money from that games? That psychology will comes to your minds and telling you to keep trying although you don't know if you can win more or lose more. And yes, minors will fall into these traps the most because they can not control themselves well and they will return to casino to start playing over and over. That will be a start for them to get addicted to gambling without they realize and if they can not stop themselves, they will becomes a heavy addicted gamblers.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: rahmad2nd on November 09, 2024, 05:14:44 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. I have a hard time saying it without leading or applying it, because your question depends on what kind of bet we are playing. In every game, there will always be a trap for the bettors or gamblers. That's why, I find it quite difficult to direct what type of gambling you mean in this discussion. But let's discuss it simply, just say it's a trap in sports betting or casino games. Let's explain first the obvious ones, for example a strong team vs a mediocre team. However, bookies present almost the same odds. In other words, no one is more favored. Clearly this can be said to be a trap if we don't research and analyze it, our understanding plays a role in this kind of betting mode. For casino games, there are many new games that offer big rewards or bonuses even with the lowest bets. This can clearly be said to be a trap if we are not observant, because only a few gamblers are lucky enough to win the jackpot or big wins. That's why, in betting or gambling it will be important to involve experience, understanding and knowledge. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Zoomic on November 09, 2024, 05:24:04 PM The biggest trap of online gambling establishments is the advertisement, which shows that you can earn more money by playing some simple games and you will own a lot of money in a few days. Online casinos place these ads more in places where money is scarce and education rates are very low. Minors and some uneducated people who do not have much knowledge about these things fall into these traps the most. When they start playing the games there is some profit to entice them in the first place which is their second trap. Later they extort money from that customer, not knowing about these scams, they continue to gamble with the hope of profit as in the first case until they run out of money and lose. When you see the gambling advertisement, your minds will comes about how easy to win in gambling. That can makes you curious with the win so you will visit the casino, make an account and start deposit some money. Whether you lose that money or win the money, your minds will thinks to return to casino in the next days and also thinks that can I win more money from that games? That psychology will comes to your minds and telling you to keep trying although you don't know if you can win more or lose more. And yes, minors will fall into these traps the most because they can not control themselves well and they will return to casino to start playing over and over. That will be a start for them to get addicted to gambling without they realize and if they can not stop themselves, they will becomes a heavy addicted gamblers.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: alastantiger on November 09, 2024, 09:18:42 PM It's even worst when this advertisements are done by top celebrities and influencers the people trust so much. This people often assure their followers that the whole winning proccess is as easy as ABC.They do not also forget to promise bonuses just by using their promo codes and completing a few gambling sessions. People often get carried away with this easy-to-make money only to realise that it was a trap to make them gamble and even lose money. I don't get why people still believe celebrity endorsement when they should know that they're only doing the endorsement because they're being paid for it and it isn't like they believe what they're endorsing. Some celebrities don't use the things that they endorsed hence we should not be too excited when we see our favourite celebrities endorsing a gambling platform. Celebrity are being used as trap to make their followers to use the casino that they endorsed. I don't use any casino being influenced by celebrities because I know it is only a trap and the casino will be using the money that I lose to look for more celebrities to pay. I rely on recommendations from the forum and I look for casino that are advertising on the forum because I know they won't want to scam and lose their credibility on the forum because of the few dollars that I'll be gambling on the casino, when they can make more money being genuine. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: AmoreJaz on November 09, 2024, 11:39:53 PM I don't get why people still believe celebrity endorsement when they should know that they're only doing the endorsement because they're being paid for it and it isn't like they believe what they're endorsing. Some celebrities don't use the things that they endorsed hence we should not be too excited when we see our favourite celebrities endorsing a gambling platform. Celebrity are being used as trap to make their followers to use the casino that they endorsed. I don't use any casino being influenced by celebrities because I know it is only a trap and the casino will be using the money that I lose to look for more celebrities to pay. I rely on recommendations from the forum and I look for casino that are advertising on the forum because I know they won't want to scam and lose their credibility on the forum because of the few dollars that I'll be gambling on the casino, when they can make more money being genuine. By now, people should have learned their lessons already. Celebrities are used to attract the attention of many, however, the truth behind is they are being paid for their services. So they will do whatever is necessary. Otherwise, the casino will stop them from being the Ambassadors and won't continue getting their services. I think based on what I read on most scam accusations on the forum, one of the things that can be termed as a trap is the play without KYC on a licensed casino and the deposit bonuses with their huge rollover requirements...you I have been in this position and when you deposit and start playing on these platforms, they usually never ask questions but when to remove money comes it becomes a whole different story, same thing with bonuses..some are near impossible to flip and would advise people to stay clear of bonuses...just play with your money and you should be okay. This is why it is on the player's responsibilities to browse the ToS of every casino they want to play with. You need to make sure that you can comply their requirements if they require you to. Also, talking about bonuses or rewards, one should always check the conditions attached to it as there are tempting perks with unreasonable wagering requirements, just an example. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Tmoonz on November 10, 2024, 12:21:43 AM When gambling there are options that always look very enticing but those ones are the most dangerous to pick because its actually a trap..This is why I don't pick an option in gambling based on the number of odds, when the odds are very small we feel absolutely safe at that point you are already in a psychological trap. When it's too obvious it's definitely a trap, But this always seem to be case, you can't get trapped in every situation,. This is probably your terrible experience with gambling someone else might have something different to say about it. I will agree with your explanation, but I don't buy the idea of betting on small odd to neither be a way of excaping trap of being too obvious to be true. Because even some Small odd may also be too obvious a trap. which after you bet on it hoping to win since the odd are little, they may disappoint you. When something is too obviously a trap it's is not only when something is highly attractive but also less attractive to be true. Meaning that the lesser thing you see as an escape routes can also be a trap, but just that it may not appear so obvious.In other words that is to say nothing is certainly to be a trap because at some point we feel it is a trap it is not and when we feel it is not a trap it will becomes a trap and this can only be justified until the end of the game and at such, that is apparently the main reason where we are always being encouraged to only gamble with that very amount we can afford to lose as a way of not being carried away by over confidence because nothing is certain. It is emotionally draining when we allow what we see to influence our decision which ends up in the opposite direction. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: ethereumhunter on November 10, 2024, 06:08:45 AM It's even worst when this advertisements are done by top celebrities and influencers the people trust so much. This people often assure their followers that the whole winning proccess is as easy as ABC.They do not also forget to promise bonuses just by using their promo codes and completing a few gambling sessions. People often get carried away with this easy-to-make money only to realise that it was a trap to make them gamble and even lose money. Yes, I admit that can influence people easily to follow what celebrities and influencers did. People wants to get the winning like them so they will try to playing gambling so they can win. But that will not easy as they don't know when they can win but they will lose their money anytime. Their losses will be big especially if they can not stop themselves from keep playing gambling. That is why people must realize that if an offers too good to be true, they must not try following celebrities and influencers because the result will be different than those people. If they still want to playing gambling, they must have many things to prevents they getting deeper in gambling or avoids becoming addicted to gambling.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: hyudien on November 10, 2024, 06:26:26 AM It's even worst when this advertisements are done by top celebrities and influencers the people trust so much. This people often assure their followers that the whole winning proccess is as easy as ABC.They do not also forget to promise bonuses just by using their promo codes and completing a few gambling sessions. People often get carried away with this easy-to-make money only to realise that it was a trap to make them gamble and even lose money. Yes, I admit that can influence people easily to follow what celebrities and influencers did. People wants to get the winning like them so they will try to playing gambling so they can win. But that will not easy as they don't know when they can win but they will lose their money anytime. Their losses will be big especially if they can not stop themselves from keep playing gambling. That is why people must realize that if an offers too good to be true, they must not try following celebrities and influencers because the result will be different than those people. If they still want to playing gambling, they must have many things to prevents they getting deeper in gambling or avoids becoming addicted to gambling.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Mahanton on November 10, 2024, 06:31:37 AM It's even worst when this advertisements are done by top celebrities and influencers the people trust so much. This people often assure their followers that the whole winning proccess is as easy as ABC.They do not also forget to promise bonuses just by using their promo codes and completing a few gambling sessions. People often get carried away with this easy-to-make money only to realise that it was a trap to make them gamble and even lose money. Yes, I admit that can influence people easily to follow what celebrities and influencers did. People wants to get the winning like them so they will try to playing gambling so they can win. But that will not easy as they don't know when they can win but they will lose their money anytime. Their losses will be big especially if they can not stop themselves from keep playing gambling. That is why people must realize that if an offers too good to be true, they must not try following celebrities and influencers because the result will be different than those people. If they still want to playing gambling, they must have many things to prevents they getting deeper in gambling or avoids becoming addicted to gambling.They dont really accept out their mistakes or errors basing up into the decisions that they had made on with gambling. As for gambling business owners then it will really be that understandable that you do really needed up to consider on having that marketing for exposure on which it will really be that an advantage into the business and they would really be allocating some budget on hiring those known people or influencers to spread up the word specially into its launch time, plus having those too good looking offers and perks on the moment that people would be seeing this stuff then they do get easily hooked up with it. Its true that there's no other that should really be blamed none other but ourselves and if you wont really be that careful or having that control then you are really that bound into disaster. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: ethereumhunter on November 12, 2024, 01:21:08 AM That's why they will work with celebrities or famous influencers to make them more known and will make many new users register and play. But we also don't blame them, I mean all decisions are in our hands. What we need to understand is that we must be able to equip ourselves with the knowledge that there is a very big risk. When we realize that, it will make us more careful not to play excessively. Because as I said this will come back to ourselves, because it's useless to blame others when we can't control ourselves. They do something and get rewards, so we shouldn't have thoughts about something that is promotional in nature, because it can be arranged in such a way. We should not blame those celebrities and influencers because that is our decision to follow them to playing gambling. We must know that the responsibility will be ours so we need to be careful with our decision. We can watch their video but we must know that winning on the gambling is not as easy as them because we don't know if their winning was set it up before or that is their lucky day or other reasons. Yes, everything will be back to us so when we lose control of ourselves, we will lose our money and that will be bigger if we chase or recover the lose money. We know that the promotion can be a trap for us so that is why we must take care of ourselves with right.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 16, 2024, 03:50:21 PM Its true that there's no other that should really be blamed none other but ourselves and if you wont really be that careful or having that control then you are really that bound into disaster. It is precise or the thing that many can not control, there are people who always go for what seems easier to do or something, but as far as I am concerned I could say that when opportunities like this present themselves you have to see all the focuses so as not to lose the way, it is very easy to lose, it is very easy for us to have losses, but it is very difficult to Generate good plays and above all it seems to me that in order to win it is necessary to make a great effort , regardless of the financial cience of the person this is a fact that for things to go well you have to make an effort. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Solosanz on November 16, 2024, 03:58:42 PM We should not blame those celebrities and influencers because that is our decision to follow them to playing gambling. We must know that the responsibility will be ours so we need to be careful with our decision. We can watch their video but we must know that winning on the gambling is not as easy as them because we don't know if their winning was set it up before or that is their lucky day or other reasons. Yes, everything will be back to us so when we lose control of ourselves, we will lose our money and that will be bigger if we chase or recover the lose money. We know that the promotion can be a trap for us so that is why we must take care of ourselves with right. That's true, but at least they should sent to the jail because they're intentionally creating and publicizing a fake video to trick people, it's a crime. If their winnings is true, they should able to prove if it was real and not staged. We can't just ignore illegal thing posted in social medias, it is right to convince people to join our group for paying x money to get fake signal? when they were saying their all of their signals are valid? Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on November 16, 2024, 04:04:28 PM Its true that there's no other that should really be blamed none other but ourselves and if you wont really be that careful or having that control then you are really that bound into disaster. It is precise or the thing that many can not control, there are people who always go for what seems easier to do or something, but as far as I am concerned I could say that when opportunities like this present themselves you have to see all the focuses so as not to lose the way, it is very easy to lose, it is very easy for us to have losses, but it is very difficult to Generate good plays and above all it seems to me that in order to win it is necessary to make a great effort , regardless of the financial cience of the person this is a fact that for things to go well you have to make an effort. But when it come to gambling in particular, our efforts without luck can still be useless, most especially when the game we are playing has everything to do with luck, like luck only based games. But all the same, we also can not tell when we are lucky or not until we put in the effort of going out or going online to play some games, then outcome will tell if our effort is profitable to us or a loss. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: LUCKMCFLY on November 21, 2024, 03:23:13 AM But when it come to gambling in particular, our efforts without luck can still be useless, most especially when the game we are playing has everything to do with luck, like luck only based games. Well you are absolutely right, when it comes to doing things this way, things can practically turn out for the better in every way , for example when it comes to gambling it happens to me like you say , no matter how hard I try in the end what really influences is luck , of course you can't know strategies or anything like that, but if it's the right time you win, if not you lose, that's what influences all this , that's why when we are looking for Better ways to make money with the game it is to accept what happens, and above all take care of the money we are putting into the game.But all the same, we also can not tell when we are lucky or not until we put in the effort of going out or going online to play some games, then outcome will tell if our effort is profitable to us or a loss. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Japinat on November 28, 2024, 03:37:57 AM But when it come to gambling in particular, our efforts without luck can still be useless, most especially when the game we are playing has everything to do with luck, like luck only based games. All your effort goes down the drain if you're focusing on games that rely purely on luck. It's no-brainer, if a game is all about luck, the only way to win is to get lucky. And since no one can control luck, it’s not the smartest move to stick to those games. Unless, of course, you’ve got extra cash to throw away or you’re just playing for fun to relieve some stress. What we’re talking here is about playing smart and using a real strategy to win. When I say "trap," I’m talking specifically about sports betting, where you’re picking between two sides. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Forsyth Jones on November 28, 2024, 07:52:16 AM I think you are definitely talking about sports betting, there are selections that are of a very low value, they can be very sure and captivating enough to get a lot of gamblers attention, these are part of their schemes and traps to lure you into making the wrong choices. Playing sports betting for a long time has taught me this. Just like you said when it's too obvious then it's definitely a trap. When it seems like that selection is too sure to pick the best thing for you to do is pick something random because that might be a way to escape the mind games of the bookies. I also had this impression in some bets that i was very confident in, but I don't believe there is a conspiracy to drastically manipulate the results. Still, I think sports betting is much less risky than games based on chance.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Kelward on November 28, 2024, 08:11:56 AM It's even worst when this advertisements are done by top celebrities and influencers the people trust so much. This people often assure their followers that the whole winning proccess is as easy as ABC.They do not also forget to promise bonuses just by using their promo codes and completing a few gambling sessions. People often get carried away with this easy-to-make money only to realise that it was a trap to make them gamble and even lose money. Yes, I admit that can influence people easily to follow what celebrities and influencers did. People wants to get the winning like them so they will try to playing gambling so they can win. But that will not easy as they don't know when they can win but they will lose their money anytime. Their losses will be big especially if they can not stop themselves from keep playing gambling. That is why people must realize that if an offers too good to be true, they must not try following celebrities and influencers because the result will be different than those people. If they still want to playing gambling, they must have many things to prevents they getting deeper in gambling or avoids becoming addicted to gambling.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: iv4n on November 28, 2024, 08:13:44 AM I think you are definitely talking about sports betting, there are selections that are of a very low value, they can be very sure and captivating enough to get a lot of gamblers attention, these are part of their schemes and traps to lure you into making the wrong choices. Playing sports betting for a long time has taught me this. Just like you said when it's too obvious then it's definitely a trap. When it seems like that selection is too sure to pick the best thing for you to do is pick something random because that might be a way to escape the mind games of the bookies. I too think the OP is talking about sports betting. We have mentioned something like this many times in sports betting threads, there are games that seem safe to bet on, as if the result is obvious... often the opposite happens and we lose that bet. But this is not always the case, sometimes obvious things happen. That's why it's a gamble, nothing is 101% certain, and nothing is impossible, surprises often happen. One example of this happened two weeks ago in the Gosubetting Tippster Challenge. For most of us, Brighton vs City was a safe bet and our predictions were on City's side... City lost but two tipsters guessed it. So while most sometimes bet on the "safe" option, there are people who expect surprises. While some win others lose, and vice versa... it's always the same thing with gambling. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: kotajikikox on November 28, 2024, 08:19:42 AM I too think the OP is talking about sports betting. We have mentioned something like this many times in sports betting threads, there are games that seem safe to bet on, as if the result is obvious... often the opposite happens and we lose that bet. But this is not always the case, sometimes obvious things happen. That's why it's a gamble, nothing is 101% certain, and nothing is impossible, surprises often happen. I don’t think there is anything that is “obvious” even in sports betting where you can at least study the odds and decide if it actually reflects the current state of the team. These are athletes. Real life people who are almost just as unpredictable as machines. No matter how good an athlete is, it is totally possible that today is just not their day or someone else is just simply better than them. It happens but if it is an outlier, it doesn’t mean a lot for the athlete’s image. Anyway, in live sports, anything can happen and nothing is ever obvious unless the match is rigged and fixed and you were given information beforehand. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: shield132 on November 28, 2024, 08:28:13 AM But when it come to gambling in particular, our efforts without luck can still be useless, most especially when the game we are playing has everything to do with luck, like luck only based games. All your effort goes down the drain if you're focusing on games that rely purely on luck. It's no-brainer, if a game is all about luck, the only way to win is to get lucky. And since no one can control luck, it’s not the smartest move to stick to those games. Unless, of course, you’ve got extra cash to throw away or you’re just playing for fun to relieve some stress. What we’re talking here is about playing smart and using a real strategy to win. When I say "trap," I’m talking specifically about sports betting, where you’re picking between two sides. There are rarely other P2P games added on casinos but slowly this is becoming an active topic. Btw even with P2P games, you depend on luck because there is no such thing as a skill-based p2p game and I explained why that is impossible to happen. So since you depend on luck, isn't it better to forget about creating strategies and play luck-based games purely with your luck? Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Cryptmuster on November 28, 2024, 08:45:52 AM I also had this impression in some bets that i was very confident in, but I don't believe there is a conspiracy to drastically manipulate the results. Still, I think sports betting is much less risky than games based on chance. Maybe, but you will agree that in sports betting there is also a luck factor, the recent match between City and Feyenoord, where they missed the victory very unexpectedly, or Barcelona against Celta and there are many such cases. So in betting luck also matters, of course not as much as in slots, but it does. And if in the Barcelona match the odds were higher and they played away, which gave some doubts, then in the match with City I was almost sure that it would not be difficult for them to win, for me it was obvious and I did not place a bet only because the odds were very low. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: ethereumhunter on November 28, 2024, 09:20:14 AM That's true, but at least they should sent to the jail because they're intentionally creating and publicizing a fake video to trick people, it's a crime. If their winnings is true, they should able to prove if it was real and not staged. If people report what they did, those people can get arrest and send it to the jail. Maybe the first thing that people can do is report to the social media so they can do something such as block or freeze the influencer account and need to clarify of what they did. We can't just ignore illegal thing posted in social medias, it is right to convince people to join our group for paying x money to get fake signal? when they were saying their all of their signals are valid? That is the danger of social media and if we can not be careful, we will be the next victim. They can get the next target because they can easily provoke other people to follow what they do. Many people still underestimate about that thing so we see that many of them get in a scam scheme. Most gambling sites will use celebrities that have many followers to advertise them on social media, TV and billboards, to attract more people to choose their sites to gamble. I wouldn't really call it a trap, I'll rather see it as a marketing strategy to get more people to gamble with them, so it depends on every individual to gamble responsibly. It'll become a trap for people that gets carried away because their favorite celebrity is hyping a gambling site that they're obviously paid to do the job. If someone learns how gambling works, I don't think that there'll be any issues of being trapped that can arise. If you understand responsible gambling and reads the TOS of gambling sites, the issue of being trapped wouldn't occur. That is because the casino wants to attract more attention from people out there especially those who active in their social media. If they can ask celebrities to help them promoting the casino, their fan will see that their idol support that casino. But those celebrities needs to be careful if they want to make a relationship to the casino and need to make sure that they are in the right casino. But for those watch the ads or video or else from their idol or influencer doesn't have to think seriously and consider that is the part of casino's promotion. People need to responsible with what they do and always research before they decide.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Japinat on November 28, 2024, 10:40:10 AM Every casino game is based on luck. Actually, not all casino games are purely luck-based....I believe you know Poker, it’s technically a casino game but it’s widely regarded as a skill-based one since you need strategy and experience to win. On the other hand, most traditional casino games are heavily reliant on luck. So there’s definitely a chance to succeed in gambling if you focus on the right kind of game. That said, this topic is about sports betting. Diving into comparisons with other games would kind of steer things off-topic. Let’s keep the discussion focused on sports betting strategies instead. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Cointxz on November 28, 2024, 10:48:51 AM Every casino game is based on luck. Actually, not all casino games are purely luck-based....I believe you know Poker, it’s technically a casino game but it’s widely regarded as a skill-based one since you need strategy and experience to win. On the other hand, most traditional casino games are heavily reliant on luck. So there’s definitely a chance to succeed in gambling if you focus on the right kind of game. That said, this topic is about sports betting. Diving into comparisons with other games would kind of steer things off-topic. Let’s keep the discussion focused on sports betting strategies instead. Poker is not always a skill based especially if you are playing against same level of poker skills. There’s always a point that you will rely on luck since the card drawn on flop, turn and river is out of your control. Skills on poker just give you an idea about your advantage with your card but that’s it. You will need an insane amount of luck to win 100% since turn and river card usually decides the outcome of the game despite you are winning 90% or more on the flop cards. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Japinat on November 29, 2024, 03:04:03 AM Poker is not always a skill based especially if you are playing against same level of poker skills. There’s always a point that you will rely on luck since the card drawn on flop, turn and river is out of your control. Of course, it’s "not always" one or the other, but we need to pick a side, whether it’s skill-based or luck-based. If winning relies more on skill than luck, then it’s fair to call it skill-based. Take sports betting, for example... sure, luck plays a role, but there’s a reason why we spend time analyzing games before placing bets. It’s because we believe our skills, like studying stats, trends, and matchups can give us an edge.Skills on poker just give you an idea about your advantage with your card but that’s it. You will need an insane amount of luck to win 100% since turn and river card usually decides the outcome of the game despite you are winning 90% or more on the flop cards. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Su-asa on November 30, 2024, 05:06:16 PM This refers to sports betting, right? Most of what I read includes the term "trap," which is when the line looks too good to be true. That's something we should avoid or bet on the other side. There haven't been a lot of those, but if you spot one with the bookie, it’s considered an opportunity for sharp bettors. This usually indicates that big action is happening on the other side of the bet, which typically reflects public bets. The odds on betting sites are well calculated by the bookmakers, remember that it's you vs them, they are also gamblers. Everything is designed to lure you, just like the topic says it's a trap. There are times where the underdogs win the favorite teams to win, this proves sometimes that small odds can be a trap. Odds amount is something that affects a lot of gamblers in sports betting, this is why you should train yourself not to get enticed by small odds. I remember when Manchester united played against Nottingham forest last season, Nottingham was given 10 odds to win and they ended up winning the game, that game taught me a big lesson. When it seems to easy or obvious it might likely fail. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: goldkingcoiner on November 30, 2024, 05:10:17 PM Do you mean 'when it is too good to be true?' I agree with this. Too good to be true is what OP meant, I think. S/He just did not know how to word it right. If somebody gives you excellent odds like 100/1 then there is obviously a reason why it is that way. And obviously taking that bet is something only an idiot would do because he does not understand the higher the odds, the more likely that he will lose. Because there is a reason why the odds are so high in your favor. A horse with a broken leg could be given 100000/1 odds but who would bet on such a broken animal to win the race? Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: coin-investor on November 30, 2024, 07:24:26 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. Its the KYC thing, they clearly stipulated that they are not going to ask for KYC but once you withdraw large amount of money coming from your winnings, they will ask you a lot of documents because they are complying with AMLAC, they should stipulated what amount will trigger KYC for AMLAC verification, in the first place in their terms of service instead of telling you the moment you are about to withdraw. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: rachael9385 on December 05, 2024, 09:39:58 PM This is the reason why I like to think outside the box sometimes, instead of betting on the favorite team to win which could obviously be a trap I bet on the underdogs knowing that they have a low Chance of winning. But in most cases the system doesn't work according to how the odds are being displayed, it's possible for a team with an odd of 1.20 to lose to a team with an of 10 or above. The trap is always visible sometimes but may be very hard to spot. This is what makes sports betting difficult and unpredictable. How do you avoid trap games? Are u able to spot them based on instincts?
Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Mpamaegbu on December 05, 2024, 10:07:33 PM Most gambling sites will use celebrities that have many followers to advertise them on social media, TV and billboards, to attract more people to choose their sites to gamble. I wouldn't really call it a trap, I'll rather see it as a marketing strategy to get more people to gamble with them, so it depends on every individual to gamble responsibly. It'll become a trap for people that gets carried away because their favorite celebrity is hyping a gambling site that they're obviously paid to do the job. If someone learns how gambling works, I don't think that there'll be any issues of being trapped that can arise. You may have a discerning mind to understand all that. Unfortunately, trust me, a lot of people don't have that patience to process stuff when it comes to areas they think they can profit from. Of course, that's how gamblers see casinos. For me, I see through the intention of using famous people to advertise products they obviously don't use as deceit. Again, I don't subscribe to products because a popular face is on its advert. Nah! I subscribe to them because I'm convinced those products are what I need. For instance, if I weren't on Binance Exchange already before Cristiano Ronaldo ran ad for it I wouldn't subscribe using that exchange because of him. I learned my lesson with ETN (Electroneum) Quote If you understand responsible gambling and reads the TOS of gambling sites, the issue of being trapped wouldn't occur. With the way TOS are written I'm cocksure not many people bother to read them to the end. So, we just skip and then tick the box to enable us do our registration.Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Nwada001 on December 05, 2024, 10:46:52 PM The trap is always visible sometimes but may be very hard to spot. This is what makes sports betting difficult and unpredictable. How do you avoid trap games? Are u able to spot them based on instincts? Gambling will always be gambling. We can't predict the outcome completely, no matter the tactic you try to use to avoid those visible things you consider as traps; some will still fail you.Most times the bookies don't even know what the outcome will be like. I believe they also allocate those odds based on the data they have on both teams; it could be a biased analysis sometimes to manipulate how gamblers picture the game, but they can't always be correct. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: freedomgo on December 06, 2024, 11:01:21 AM Gambling will always be gambling. We can't predict the outcome completely, no matter the tactic you try to use to avoid those visible things you consider as traps; some will still fail you. Most times the bookies don't even know what the outcome will be like. I believe they also allocate those odds based on the data they have on both teams; it could be a biased analysis sometimes to manipulate how gamblers picture the game, but they can't always be correct. If your goal is to be profitable, it’s all about calculated betting, fewer bets, but with higher quality. It might sound boring, but that’s the reality if you’re serious about success. And as we know, chasing excitement often leads to losses, so stick to the smart plays. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: carlfebz2 on December 06, 2024, 12:10:07 PM Gambling will always be gambling. We can't predict the outcome completely, no matter the tactic you try to use to avoid those visible things you consider as traps; some will still fail you. Most times the bookies don't even know what the outcome will be like. I believe they also allocate those odds based on the data they have on both teams; it could be a biased analysis sometimes to manipulate how gamblers picture the game, but they can't always be correct. If your goal is to be profitable, it’s all about calculated betting, fewer bets, but with higher quality. It might sound boring, but that’s the reality if you’re serious about success. And as we know, chasing excitement often leads to losses, so stick to the smart plays. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Ziskinberg on December 06, 2024, 12:16:54 PM If your goal is to be profitable, it’s all about calculated betting, fewer bets, but with higher quality. It might sound boring, but that’s the reality if you’re serious about success. And as we know, chasing excitement often leads to losses, so stick to the smart plays. It seems like not everyone shares the same goal, some people gamble purely for fun, so they might not focus too much on these things, as their strategy is to just keep it simple. I’ve been gambling for quite a while now, you know, so I’m pretty familiar with these concepts. But TBH , even though I understand the idea of traps, figuring out which side is actually the trap is still a real challenge for me. It’s not as simple as it seems...Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: serjent05 on December 06, 2024, 12:25:34 PM We cannot deny the fact that some book makers takes advantage of the hype and emotions of fans and bettors. Sometimes they even make the odds seems too obvious that one team will win attracting bettors to bet on that team making them profit when the outcome is the opposite.
Well, knowing that it is a trap, we can always avoid to be trapped on their scheme by simply not going with the favorable odds, and or go with the public hype without analyzing the competing team. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: hedgeh0g on December 06, 2024, 12:42:45 PM We cannot deny the fact that some book makers takes advantage of the hype and emotions of fans and bettors. Sometimes they even make the odds seems too obvious that one team will win attracting bettors to bet on that team making them profit when the outcome is the opposite. I generally try to bet only like this when the odds are very attractive to me, when I feel my advantage in this bet and can find reasons and factors that will bring me to the plus in the long run. Of course, it is very difficult to do, and perhaps impossible, but it is better to make bets only like this. I will never bet just when I am bored, like many players or for the excitement. I pursue my goal in which I want this bet to be profitable for me, probably bookmakers do not really like such calculating players like me.Well, knowing that it is a trap, we can always avoid to be trapped on their scheme by simply not going with the favorable odds, and or go with the public hype without analyzing the competing team. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Finestream on December 06, 2024, 12:46:09 PM We cannot deny the fact that some book makers takes advantage of the hype and emotions of fans and bettors. Sometimes they even make the odds seems too obvious that one team will win attracting bettors to bet on that team making them profit when the outcome is the opposite. That’s exactly the point of avoiding traps, it’s closely related to betting against the public. If you’re an experienced sports bettor, you’ll come across this often. With so many betting odds available daily, you’ll develop a sense that something about a particular line feels off.Well, knowing that it is a trap, we can always avoid to be trapped on their scheme by simply not going with the favorable odds, and or go with the public hype without analyzing the competing team. It’s that instinct or theory that tells you one side might be a trap, so you decide to go with the other side. It’s not a perfect science, but with experience, you start to spot these patterns better. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Tmoonz on December 07, 2024, 03:09:44 PM If your goal is to be profitable, it’s all about calculated betting, fewer bets, but with higher quality. It might sound boring, but that’s the reality if you’re serious about success. And as we know, chasing excitement often leads to losses, so stick to the smart plays. It seems like not everyone shares the same goal, some people gamble purely for fun, so they might not focus too much on these things, as their strategy is to just keep it simple. I’ve been gambling for quite a while now, you know, so I’m pretty familiar with these concepts. But TBH , even though I understand the idea of traps, figuring out which side is actually the trap is still a real challenge for me. It’s not as simple as it seems...That's quite funny, and I agree with you 100 percent, indeed it doesn't end up simple as it seems to be in the sense that most times what we assume to be a doesn't end up like what was presumed, it is so difficult to completely rely on a certain concept as what could possibly lead to a winning line, the variation of things as regards to outcomes is actually what makes gambling some worth difficult to analyze, surely it is a good approach to keep it simple by focusing more on seeing gambling as just a game and nothing to be too serious about which will generally help in maintaining a responsible gambling behaviors. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Peanutswar on December 07, 2024, 04:10:37 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. It depends on what you are saying kind of trap, basic thing you need to consider if you would like to play into a gambling casino is they are legal to operate and doing a background check might help you to identify if the platform already has a bad history and feedback to their players to think if you will make a deposit or not. No one would like to lose their money without enjoying the game. If you saw a crypto casino personally I recommend to check if they have an ANN thread here because most likely community here makes a feed back on them and raise a question that opens up about their platform its a plus too if they have a good reputation and active support. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Maslate on December 07, 2024, 04:25:06 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. It depends on what you are saying kind of trap, basic thing you need to consider if you would like to play into a gambling casino is they are legal to operate and doing a background check might help you to identify if the platform already has a bad history and feedback to their players to think if you will make a deposit or not. No one would like to lose their money without enjoying the game. If you saw a crypto casino personally I recommend to check if they have an ANN thread here because most likely community here makes a feed back on them and raise a question that opens up about their platform its a plus too if they have a good reputation and active support. OP used the term "betting forum," so it clearly refers to sports betting. It’s quite relevant since the term "trap games" is very popular across different games and leagues. Just like in this article, it teaches us how to identify trap games effectively. Football Betting: How to Identify and Handicap Trap Games (https://www.thespread.com/handicapping-articles/football-betting-how-to-identify-and-handicap-trap-games/) And take note, this article was published in 2013, so these had already exist long time ago. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: AbuBhakar on December 07, 2024, 04:31:25 PM Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first. It depends on what you are saying kind of trap, basic thing you need to consider if you would like to play into a gambling casino is they are legal to operate and doing a background check might help you to identify if the platform already has a bad history and feedback to their players to think if you will make a deposit or not. No one would like to lose their money without enjoying the game. If you saw a crypto casino personally I recommend to check if they have an ANN thread here because most likely community here makes a feed back on them and raise a question that opens up about their platform its a plus too if they have a good reputation and active support. OP used the term "betting forum," so it clearly refers to sports betting. It’s quite relevant since the term "trap games" is very popular across different games and leagues. Just like in this article, it teaches us how to identify trap games effectively. Football Betting: How to Identify and Handicap Trap Games (https://www.thespread.com/handicapping-articles/football-betting-how-to-identify-and-handicap-trap-games/) And take note, this article was published in 2013, so these had already exist long time ago. The topic itself is pretty vague since the important details are on the mind of OP alone. There’s a lot of trap to be consider on sports betting not only on the betting itself but also on ToS of the casino that put player in disadvantage for a certain matches. For example game is void if the player resign at the middle of the match even if your bet is already winning and many more. I’m not sure either what kind of obvious he is referring here that’s why he leaves us a lto of speculation instead of having a concrete topic to discuss. Title: Re: When it's too obvious, it's a trap.... Post by: Judith87403 on December 07, 2024, 04:45:38 PM Perhaps the title should be sometimes when it is too obvious it is a trap because it is not all the time that it's a trap rather they do that sometimes intensionally to scare people away from the bet but some good analyst and predictors still bet on those games and win big at times and loss money at times too. Just like they have said earlier, sometimes they increase the odd of a particular team because of injury or maybe they have another match that is more important than the one they are about to play but some team will still win regardless while some will draw or lose.
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