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November 28, 2024, 08:45:52 AM
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I also had this impression in some bets that i was very confident in, but I don't believe there is a conspiracy to drastically manipulate the results. Still, I think sports betting is much less risky than games based on chance.

Maybe, but you will agree that in sports betting there is also a luck factor, the recent match between City and Feyenoord, where they missed the victory very unexpectedly, or Barcelona against Celta and there are many such cases. So in betting luck also matters, of course not as much as in slots, but it does. And if in the Barcelona match the odds were higher and they played away, which gave some doubts, then in the match with City I was almost sure that it would not be difficult for them to win, for me it was obvious and I did not place a bet only because the odds were very low.

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November 28, 2024, 09:20:14 AM
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That's true, but at least they should sent to the jail because they're intentionally creating and publicizing a fake video to trick people, it's a crime. If their winnings is true, they should able to prove if it was real and not staged.

We can't just ignore illegal thing posted in social medias, it is right to convince people to join our group for paying x money to get fake signal? when they were saying their all of their signals are valid?
If people report what they did, those people can get arrest and send it to the jail. Maybe the first thing that people can do is report to the social media so they can do something such as block or freeze the influencer account and need to clarify of what they did.

That is the danger of social media and if we can not be careful, we will be the next victim. They can get the next target because they can easily provoke other people to follow what they do. Many people still underestimate about that thing so we see that many of them get in a scam scheme.

Most gambling sites will use celebrities that have many followers to advertise them on social media, TV and billboards, to attract more people to choose their sites to gamble. I wouldn't really call it a trap, I'll rather see it as a marketing strategy to get more people to gamble with them, so it depends on every individual to gamble responsibly. It'll become a trap for people that gets carried away because their favorite celebrity is hyping a gambling site that they're obviously paid to do the job. If someone learns how gambling works, I don't think that there'll be any issues of being trapped that can arise. If you understand responsible gambling and reads the TOS of gambling sites, the issue of being trapped wouldn't occur.
That is because the casino wants to attract more attention from people out there especially those who active in their social media. If they can ask celebrities to help them promoting the casino, their fan will see that their idol support that casino. But those celebrities needs to be careful if they want to make a relationship to the casino and need to make sure that they are in the right casino. But for those watch the ads or video or else from their idol or influencer doesn't have to think seriously and consider that is the part of casino's promotion. People need to responsible with what they do and always research before they decide.
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November 28, 2024, 10:40:10 AM
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Every casino game is based on luck.

Actually, not all casino games are purely luck-based....I believe you know Poker, it’s technically a casino game but it’s widely regarded as a skill-based one since you need strategy and experience to win. On the other hand, most traditional casino games are heavily reliant on luck. So there’s definitely a chance to succeed in gambling if you focus on the right kind of game.

That said, this topic is about sports betting. Diving into comparisons with other games would kind of steer things off-topic.

Let’s keep the discussion focused on sports betting strategies instead.

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November 28, 2024, 10:48:51 AM
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Every casino game is based on luck.

Actually, not all casino games are purely luck-based....I believe you know Poker, it’s technically a casino game but it’s widely regarded as a skill-based one since you need strategy and experience to win. On the other hand, most traditional casino games are heavily reliant on luck. So there’s definitely a chance to succeed in gambling if you focus on the right kind of game.

That said, this topic is about sports betting. Diving into comparisons with other games would kind of steer things off-topic.

Let’s keep the discussion focused on sports betting strategies instead.

Poker is not always a skill based especially if you are playing against same level of poker skills. There’s always a point that you will rely on luck since the card drawn on flop, turn and river is out of your control.

Skills on poker just give you an idea about your advantage with your card but that’s it. You will need an insane amount of luck to win 100% since turn and river card usually decides the outcome of the game despite you are winning 90% or more on the flop cards.

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November 29, 2024, 03:04:03 AM
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Poker is not always a skill based especially if you are playing against same level of poker skills. There’s always a point that you will rely on luck since the card drawn on flop, turn and river is out of your control.

Skills on poker just give you an idea about your advantage with your card but that’s it. You will need an insane amount of luck to win 100% since turn and river card usually decides the outcome of the game despite you are winning 90% or more on the flop cards.
Of course, it’s "not always" one or the other, but we need to pick a side, whether it’s skill-based or luck-based. If winning relies more on skill than luck, then it’s fair to call it skill-based. Take sports betting, for example... sure, luck plays a role, but there’s a reason why we spend time analyzing games before placing bets. It’s because we believe our skills, like studying stats, trends, and matchups can give us an edge.

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November 30, 2024, 05:06:16 PM
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This refers to sports betting, right? Most of what I read includes the term "trap," which is when the line looks too good to be true. That's something we should avoid or bet on the other side. There haven't been a lot of those, but if you spot one with the bookie, it’s considered an opportunity for sharp bettors. This usually indicates that big action is happening on the other side of the bet, which typically reflects public bets.

The odds on betting sites are well calculated by the bookmakers, remember that it's you vs them, they are also gamblers. Everything is designed to lure you, just like the topic says it's a trap. There are times where the underdogs win the favorite teams to win, this proves sometimes that small odds can be a trap. Odds amount is something that affects a lot of gamblers in sports betting, this is why you should train yourself not to get enticed by small odds. I remember when Manchester united played against Nottingham forest last season, Nottingham was given 10 odds to win and they ended up winning the game, that game taught me a big lesson. When it seems to easy or obvious it might likely fail.

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November 30, 2024, 05:10:17 PM
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Do you mean 'when it is too good to be true?'

I agree with this.

Too good to be true is what OP meant, I think. S/He just did not know how to word it right.

If somebody gives you excellent odds like 100/1 then there is obviously a reason why it is that way. And obviously taking that bet is something only an idiot would do because he does not understand the higher the odds, the more likely that he will lose. Because there is a reason why the odds are so high in your favor.

A horse with a broken leg could be given 100000/1 odds but who would bet on such a broken animal to win the race?



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November 30, 2024, 07:24:26 PM
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Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first.

Its the KYC thing, they clearly stipulated that they are not going to ask for KYC but once you withdraw large amount of money coming from your winnings, they will ask you a lot of documents because they are complying with AMLAC, they should stipulated what amount will trigger KYC for AMLAC verification, in the first place in their terms of service instead of telling you the moment you are about to withdraw.

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This is the reason why I like to think outside the box sometimes, instead of betting on the favorite team to win which could obviously be a trap I bet on the underdogs knowing that they have a low Chance of winning. But in most cases the system doesn't work according to how the odds are being displayed, it's possible for a team with an odd of 1.20 to lose to a team with an of 10 or above. The trap is always visible sometimes but may be very hard to spot. This is what makes sports betting difficult and unpredictable. How do you avoid trap games? Are u able to spot them based on instincts?

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Most gambling sites will use celebrities that have many followers to advertise them on social media, TV and billboards, to attract more people to choose their sites to gamble. I wouldn't really call it a trap, I'll rather see it as a marketing strategy to get more people to gamble with them, so it depends on every individual to gamble responsibly. It'll become a trap for people that gets carried away because their favorite celebrity is hyping a gambling site that they're obviously paid to do the job. If someone learns how gambling works, I don't think that there'll be any issues of being trapped that can arise.
You may have a discerning mind to understand all that. Unfortunately, trust me, a lot of people don't have that patience to process stuff when it comes to areas they think they can profit from. Of course, that's how gamblers see casinos. For me, I see through the intention of using famous people to advertise products they obviously don't use as deceit. Again, I don't subscribe to products because a popular face is on its advert. Nah! I subscribe to them because I'm convinced those products are what I need. For instance, if I weren't on Binance Exchange already before Cristiano Ronaldo ran ad for it I wouldn't subscribe using that exchange because of him. I learned my lesson with ETN (Electroneum)

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The trap is always visible sometimes but may be very hard to spot. This is what makes sports betting difficult and unpredictable. How do you avoid trap games? Are u able to spot them based on instincts?
Gambling will always be gambling. We can't predict the outcome completely, no matter the tactic you try to use to avoid those visible things you consider as traps; some will still fail you.
 
Most times the bookies don't even know what the outcome will be like. I believe they also allocate those odds based on the data they have on both teams; it could be a biased analysis sometimes to manipulate how gamblers picture the game, but they can't always be correct.

 
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Gambling will always be gambling. We can't predict the outcome completely, no matter the tactic you try to use to avoid those visible things you consider as traps; some will still fail you.
 
Most times the bookies don't even know what the outcome will be like. I believe they also allocate those odds based on the data they have on both teams; it could be a biased analysis sometimes to manipulate how gamblers picture the game, but they can't always be correct.
It’s true, we can’t completely predict outcomes, but sports betting is really a numbers game. To have a chance at being profitable in the long run, discipline with bankroll management is key. Spotting those "trap games" and taking advantage of them can give you an edge. Sure, they don’t come often, but if you can get more picks right than wrong, you’ll be on the path to profit.

If your goal is to be profitable, it’s all about calculated betting, fewer bets, but with higher quality. It might sound boring, but that’s the reality if you’re serious about success. And as we know, chasing excitement often leads to losses, so stick to the smart plays.

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December 06, 2024, 12:10:07 PM
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Gambling will always be gambling. We can't predict the outcome completely, no matter the tactic you try to use to avoid those visible things you consider as traps; some will still fail you.
 
Most times the bookies don't even know what the outcome will be like. I believe they also allocate those odds based on the data they have on both teams; it could be a biased analysis sometimes to manipulate how gamblers picture the game, but they can't always be correct.
It’s true, we can’t completely predict outcomes, but sports betting is really a numbers game. To have a chance at being profitable in the long run, discipline with bankroll management is key. Spotting those "trap games" and taking advantage of them can give you an edge. Sure, they don’t come often, but if you can get more picks right than wrong, you’ll be on the path to profit.

If your goal is to be profitable, it’s all about calculated betting, fewer bets, but with higher quality. It might sound boring, but that’s the reality if you’re serious about success. And as we know, chasing excitement often leads to losses, so stick to the smart plays.
When dealing up with sports betting or even with those casino games then it will really be that important that you shouldnt be making yourself trying out to be successful towards it rather be thinking on how you do able to entertain and having that enjoyment towards it rather thinking on being profitable. Somehow getting those winning bets will really be that your main priority because it will really be that giving some worth into the money that you had put on, but in general it will really be that better that you should just enjoy on what you are doing. Speaking about traps then those are pretty obvious but only into those bettors on which have been into this field for long but for those newbies or noobs then they cant be be able to determine it out. Sooner or later at the time that they do gain up experience then they will really be having such observation.

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December 06, 2024, 12:16:54 PM
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If your goal is to be profitable, it’s all about calculated betting, fewer bets, but with higher quality. It might sound boring, but that’s the reality if you’re serious about success. And as we know, chasing excitement often leads to losses, so stick to the smart plays.
It seems like not everyone shares the same goal, some people gamble purely for fun, so they might not focus too much on these things, as their strategy is to just keep it simple. I’ve been gambling for quite a while now, you know, so I’m pretty familiar with these concepts. But TBH , even though I understand the idea of traps, figuring out which side is actually the trap is still a real challenge for me. It’s not as simple as it seems...

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We cannot deny the fact that some book makers takes advantage of the hype and emotions of fans and bettors.  Sometimes they even make the odds seems too obvious that one team will win attracting bettors to bet on that team making them profit when the outcome is the opposite.

Well, knowing that it is a trap, we can always avoid to be trapped on their scheme by simply not going with the favorable odds, and or go with the public hype without analyzing the competing team.

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We cannot deny the fact that some book makers takes advantage of the hype and emotions of fans and bettors.  Sometimes they even make the odds seems too obvious that one team will win attracting bettors to bet on that team making them profit when the outcome is the opposite.

Well, knowing that it is a trap, we can always avoid to be trapped on their scheme by simply not going with the favorable odds, and or go with the public hype without analyzing the competing team.
I generally try to bet only like this when the odds are very attractive to me, when I feel my advantage in this bet and can find reasons and factors that will bring me to the plus in the long run. Of course, it is very difficult to do, and perhaps impossible, but it is better to make bets only like this. I will never bet just when I am bored, like many players or for the excitement. I pursue my goal in which I want this bet to be profitable for me, probably bookmakers do not really like such calculating players like me.

 
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December 06, 2024, 12:46:09 PM
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We cannot deny the fact that some book makers takes advantage of the hype and emotions of fans and bettors.  Sometimes they even make the odds seems too obvious that one team will win attracting bettors to bet on that team making them profit when the outcome is the opposite.

Well, knowing that it is a trap, we can always avoid to be trapped on their scheme by simply not going with the favorable odds, and or go with the public hype without analyzing the competing team.
That’s exactly the point of avoiding traps, it’s closely related to betting against the public. If you’re an experienced sports bettor, you’ll come across this often. With so many betting odds available daily, you’ll develop a sense that something about a particular line feels off.

It’s that instinct or theory that tells you one side might be a trap, so you decide to go with the other side. It’s not a perfect science, but with experience, you start to spot these patterns better.

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December 07, 2024, 03:09:44 PM
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If your goal is to be profitable, it’s all about calculated betting, fewer bets, but with higher quality. It might sound boring, but that’s the reality if you’re serious about success. And as we know, chasing excitement often leads to losses, so stick to the smart plays.
It seems like not everyone shares the same goal, some people gamble purely for fun, so they might not focus too much on these things, as their strategy is to just keep it simple. I’ve been gambling for quite a while now, you know, so I’m pretty familiar with these concepts. But TBH , even though I understand the idea of traps, figuring out which side is actually the trap is still a real challenge for me. It’s not as simple as it seems...

That's quite funny, and I agree with you 100 percent, indeed it doesn't end up simple as it seems to be in the sense that most times what we assume to be a doesn't end up like what was presumed, it is so difficult to completely rely on a certain concept as what could possibly lead to a winning line, the variation of things as regards to outcomes is actually what makes gambling some worth difficult to analyze, surely it is a good approach to keep it simple by focusing more on seeing gambling as just a game and nothing to be too serious about which will generally help in maintaining a responsible gambling behaviors.

 
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December 07, 2024, 04:10:37 PM
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Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first.

It depends on what you are saying kind of trap, basic thing you need to consider if you would like to play into a gambling casino is they are legal to operate and doing a background check might help you to identify if the platform already has a bad history and feedback to their players to think if you will make a deposit or not. No one would like to lose their money without enjoying the game. If you saw a crypto casino personally I recommend to check if they have an ANN thread here because most likely community here makes a feed back on them and raise a question that opens up about their platform its a plus too if they have a good reputation and active support.

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December 07, 2024, 04:25:06 PM
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Tell me about how you understand that, as these are some of the terms I can read in many of the betting forums I've joined. I have my understanding too, but I wouldn't post it here first as I like to read yours first.

It depends on what you are saying kind of trap, basic thing you need to consider if you would like to play into a gambling casino is they are legal to operate and doing a background check might help you to identify if the platform already has a bad history and feedback to their players to think if you will make a deposit or not. No one would like to lose their money without enjoying the game. If you saw a crypto casino personally I recommend to check if they have an ANN thread here because most likely community here makes a feed back on them and raise a question that opens up about their platform its a plus too if they have a good reputation and active support.

OP used the term "betting forum," so it clearly refers to sports betting. It’s quite relevant since the term "trap games" is very popular across different games and leagues. Just like in this article, it teaches us how to identify trap games effectively.

Football Betting: How to Identify and Handicap Trap Games

And take note, this article was published in 2013, so these had already exist long time ago.

 
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