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Hi everyone! First post here.

I have a third person arena shooter that's going to have simulated gore and weapons, basically Counter Strike meets The Last of Us.
I have a Business Plan and PnL I'm sharing with potential investors. We're seeking as low as $75k for a prototype/trailer up to $1 Million for a full production.

Is there other websites I can use to find Investors involving Bitcoin?

If you're interested, please give me an email to send details to!

Thanks and have a fantastic day.

Are you looking to remain anonymous?  If so, do you have something worth $100K to provide as collateral?

AFAIK no. Although there are many crowdfunding or launchpads website which accept Bitcoin or cryptocurrency as payment method. If you don't mind using crowdfunding or launchpads website, you can find such website by using keyword "igo initial game offering" or "bitcoin crowdfunding" on Google search.

No I'm not looking to remain anonymous. Great question! I'm very happy to meet Investors in person if they'd like.

Thanks for help, very much appreciated.

Ok then, who are you?   If you post your experience and education, people will see you are more than just an idea.

Counter Strike has thirty full time developers.  They can add crypto faster than you can build a game.   Explain why crypto will make the game better.  :)

You are developing a video game that will accept Bitcoin, not a crypto game based on Bitcoin, accepting Bitcoin as part of a crypto game doesn't take much, so you are looking for investors/developers for that game.

Bitcoin's relationship to those games is same as accepting payments by Visa, MasterCard or Google Pay, have you heard anyone say they are developing a Google Pay game?

In the first place, you should see this question coming; its unprofessional coming here asking to look for investors without introducing who you are or what your capabilities are. Your introduction is very much related to scam emails we've received in our spam inbox.
Remember, we are all anonymous here, and trust is something you have to establish first when it comes to money.

I'd only give those details to someone that would take it seriously. Real investors understand my original message, and many of these questions you're assuming aren't answered, are in the plan lol. Anyone that's interested would give me an email to send details to.

Trust isn't something you can ever establish in a forum environment, so there's no point trying to convince people that don't care in the first place.

Any of the big games don't take bitcoin as payment. Everything else about the game that makes it stand out are explained in the proper channels.

So first, you've got to make a game, and then make it big. Then, you should be able to add Bitcoin payment gateways to it easily. No Crypto investor would invest in a game that uses Bitcoin as just a mode of payment and is not exactly based on the blockchain. You should look into the usual VCs that fund games in the development phase. It's a good shot to give it a try here but I doubt you'd find many investors.

Real investors see hundreds of ideas.   We'll just assume that's all you have, since you won't give more details.

I mean just because they're being skeptical doesn't mean they don't care about your ideas. Even if you try to to contact VC or something similar I'm sure they'll ask you tons of questions too. Besides, who's to say some whales don't lurk around in this forum trying to find a start-up to burn their money? Being dismissive would reduce the chance for them to notice your project. It's worth it to provide a short whitepaper explaining your ideas and your portfolio here. You can reuse those materials for other channels if you want to.

Why do you think serious investors don't read this?
I got the impression that you see investors as idiots who bathe in money and have no idea where to spend their money, even though they have a great desire to do so.

OK, you have an idea, instead of explaining to everyone individually via email, you can certainly provide some details to save time, both yours and potential investors.

The range of money that interests you is very large, $75k up to $1mil. Can you at least state how that money would be spent?
This is quite flat and seems very frivolous.

Within seconds these games can accept Bitcoin via a centralized payment gateway and receive payments in dollars or within minutes by setting up a payment gateway via btcPayserver or any open source service.
if your idea is a blockchain-based game, adding details will be necessary.

What are those proper channels, via Email? There are many reasons why members will be reluctant to receive an email from you, at least for now. If you believe that the game you want to build has stand-out features, then make them available in this topic, if 'investors' like the idea, then they can 'arrange' for subsequent discussions with you off the forum.

That seems a weird assertion, unless somehow forums are a worse medium to use for such things than the IRC channels that I think preceded the launch of these forums?

Plenty of trust was built way back on IRC why would it be harder to do on forums?

Do you maybe think the bots nano and maybe others eventually deployed on IRC make such a big difference in what kind of trust can grow?

Do you remember the early futures system built by that Rumanian chap who supposedly died at sea or somesuch eventually?

Seems to me quite a lot of trust managed to exist in some cases even without the full identity revelations that some used as part of how they built trust.

So I have to agree your whole approach seems rather suspect really.

All that is before getting to the big point others have harped on that once you have a game, you can talk about having it accept bitcoin, but until you actually go get your game built there really isn't anything to talk about adding the accepting of bitcoin to.

At least with my own (meta)game crypto is pretty fundamental which since ultimately all the cryptos rest upon bitcoin means bitcoin is fundamental.


(Bitcoin is actually assumed in the Galactic Milieu (https://MakeMoney.Knotwork.com/) to be the currency of the most advanced civilisation, the Hackers, whose technology is sufficiently advanced as to most likely be "indistinguishable from magic". It is they from whom the Martians, and thence various other Milieu civilisations, got blockchain technology and it was via Milieu agencies preparing the planet known as Earth (https://www.devtome.com/the_planet_known_as_earth) to join the Milieu that the agent pseudonymously known as Satoshi introduced bitcoin to Earth...)


-MarkM-

THe most advanced civilizations probably use a form of quantum currency.  That way, all your bills can be paid at once using the same money.  :)

Hi! I don't think you'll find a legitimate investor via any website because investors don't visit forums or social networks to get business deals done and there are too many scammers online. But I think that meet ups are your best bet. Attend meetups, talk with new people, share your ideas, listen to them, get their contact information, create your contact card and give it to them.

I am not an investor, not game developer, so, I can't help you but I would really wanna hear your idea. What do you plan? Will users be able to buy things with Bitcoin payments? Or do you plan to create a P2P game where users will be able to play against each other with Bitcoin? Please, share a brief information about it.

This is the best response I have received. I've gone to events but there was no actual investors there, just other people trying to start a business.

Bitcoin isn't really a focus at all on what the game is. I will say there is a new control scheme meant to push third person shooters forward. And a monetary scheme that has no battle passes, and is fair but also has lot's of potential. That is all I will disclose in a public forum. Thanks.

I am not a gamer. I never really considered myself to be one in the past either, although I did play games when I was younger. Hence, my opinion might not be valuable and up-to-date, but I hate the direction that gaming has taken. I mean the in-game purchases and necessity to spend money over and over again in order to proceed with the story. I am of the opinion that you should buy for the game once before you can play it. It then becomes yours forever and you won't have to spend more money on it.

I see no reason why you couldn't add bitcoin as a payment method to a list of all other accepted payment options. If you are planning to add it as an in-game purchase option, it's a crappy way to go just like with the other in-game purchase methods.

From what i understand, you are worried that if you share some part of your idea here, some people might steal you idea, while i don't think so, because you're surely not going to share everything, you are still within your right to think like this. What i suspect is that what you want to build is just an idea and you haven't answered all questions yourself.

Someone who wants to steal your idea, may go ahead to even shoot you that mail, don't you think so.

Like the old physical cartridges on gaming systems.   Intellivision, Coleco, Atari... I spent hours staring at their brochures growing up.

But games always have bugs (E.T. destroyed Atari) and certain games (MMORPGs) need constant updates to keep people interested.  I'm not bothered having to pay a "subscription" for a quality game, because I can always stop when the game is no longer fun.  What bothers me is buying a car then having to pay a subscription for heated seats.   >:( 

Thank you, I'm happy for that. Yes, I also forgot to say that on events, mostly people like you try to attend but on most events, you have the possibility to meet game developers, those who work in top companies like Ubisoft, Crytek, EA and so on. Through these developers, you might be able to find people who are interested into game development. You need a connection to get a connection, it will help you to reach out to investors.

If you try to push third person shooters forward, then you are probably planning to do some gamechanger things.

Your suspicions are incorrect but thanks for your time.

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Going to the publishers are my LAST OPTION. Personally I don't trust them to try and ruin my product with greed. Other developers also have massive egos and aren't willing to work with others.
I may try something like Kickstarter but I really don't want to go that route, but it is the option I take before going to Publishers.

People are concerned with what I have. What I have is books of development ready to immediately be given to artist and programmers to develope an Alpha within a year. I also have a rough concept trailer, so that with the Business Plan, with design documents and trailers after a NDA, I see is completely fair and more than enough to convince a investor.

Bitcoin investors are a special breed and understand risk but also numbers and I have confidence in this company it will be successful no matter what.

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There are investors here, but you have to tell us what we are investing in.   I knew teenagers who spent years developing their own personal D&D (Dungeons and Dragons) scenarios, but not one of them was made into a movie - the amount of construction you have on a faulty foundation is useless. 

What do you want to convince an investor of?   What do you have to show right now that will convince a serious investor to spend time on your NDA?

I’m not trying to bash your idea, but it kinda sounds unfinished and not that exciting. What's the deal with accepting bitcoin? Will it be used for payments, or will players be earning bitcoin as rewards? What’s even gonna motivate players to keep playing when there are plenty of established, reputable projects and video games out there worth checking out? For me, I’d see more value in either making a game like this or going with newer projects like earnm. At least they’re interesting for earning potential. I checked out their site and Telegram, and it’s easy to see that earnm can fit into both web2/web3 projects. Plus, it's accessible to regular users, so it reaches a broader audience, including investors and partners. Instead of crypto being used as payment, their own $earnm token rewards online activity, and the tasks needed to earn are super simple. I think these kinds of projects have more potential—don’t need to do much, and the token won’t lose value.

Developing a game isn't that easy but anyone can come up with a game building idea with the involvement of crypto and getting funds will not get the game better, but will surely get the OP some easy money  ;)



It will help in getting the funds to scam for the development of the game. Another failed attempted by the newbie to generate some easy money in the name of investments.

Lol. Though you had admitted earlier that you're not a gamer or a gaming fan, fair enough. However, these in-game purchases are not out of place, neither are they exclusive to gaming apps. It all depends on what appreciate you're engaging with. It is what I called a phase of development that we've all reached where games that used to be free in the past, are no longer available for free because the gaming companies and developers need to make some money out of their investments. It is only profitable, if they bait people which purchases once they've worked heavily on their initiative to serve you.

It is also important to know that it's not all premium games that have the in-game purchase features, some are still outright purchase. While you complained about the in-game purchases, another gamer out there is complaining about outright purchase because it doesn't give them the access to have a feel of the game until you make a purchase, whereas with in-game purchase, you are able to taste the feel of the game and then decide to purchase exclusive features.

The advantage of the in-game purchases sometimes is, for some games, the purchases are not really so expensive as it will be if you're to make am outright payment from the beginning. So it gives you a leverage to play more and buy little. Overall, these are all strategies implemented by game developers and big gaming companies to generate revenue for their investments while investing more on researching different means to make a user's experience better.


This will remain the best approach in my own opinion. The best form to get connected to these guys (developers) is by attending physical and public events organized by them. Attending annual conventions and gaming conferences like GDS (Game Developers Session) in Prague in November, Nordic Game Jam in Copenhagen in Denmark, DreamHack in France, Gamescom in Koln in August, UK Games Expo, USA games events and many more which I didn't mention is a sure way of getting connected and meeting with the right people to pitch your idea. All you have to do is to research each of these game conferences and filter the ones you can attend and aligns with your targets.