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We read a lot about gamblers who are very aware of the risks of losing,  and because of that awareness, they’re already willing to lose even before they start gambling. What happens is, they become more loss-oriented (to stay in control) instead of win-oriented.

So for you guys --  do we still consider them real gamblers?

Or are they just here doing some kind of experiment?

I think they already accepted the risk of gambling before going further to gamble, to me it's a good mindset because they wouldn't regret any amounts lost while gambling provided they are gambling within an amount they can afford to lose than gambling with the amount much higher than their budget, at this point I will say it's not a good habit if they gamble with an amount higher than what they projected to gambles with. Gambling is something that is meant to be fun and even though one is losing let it be that it's the amount they risk to lose and not the amount far way higher than what they budgeted.

Honestly, those who are new to gambling cannot deny that fact that what they do is still on the experimental process. They are still trying to weigh things, and test if gambling can give them more wins or put them into bigger losses. But, they are still considered real gamblers.

For me, a real gambler is one who is not only exposed to pure gains but mixed with losses as well. With that, a real gambler should learn how to be more flexible with different outcomes. Another thing is, a real gambler do not just gamble to find entertainment and have fun, that it’s okay for him to lose. But in reality, real gamblers gamble to earn and make more money. Sometimes they’re lucky and make unlimited profits, but most of they time they’re not. That’s just how gambling played in my own perception.

A true gambler should be able to be using just small amount of money to gamble. Using like 1% or less than 1% of his income to gamble. Or even not to gamble at all at times. A true gamblers should be disciplined and be gambling responsibly. A true gambler should have control over gambling. But unfortunately, not everyone can be like that.

A true gambler is a real risk-taker..  someone who’s not just here for entertainment, but mainly for the challenge.
He’ll find ways and strategies to reach that goal.

I think bankroll size also says a lot.

If the bankroll is super small, it just shows he’s not serious and is only playing for fun - so for me, that’s not a true gambler.

I guess it really depends on each person’s definition of a "true gambler."
But for me, the most important thing is being a responsible gambler because that’s what really matters if you want to minimize risk and avoid addiction.
Whether you’re chasing profit or just playing for fun, at the end of the day, you’re still a gambler by definition.

So for me, a true gambler should also be a responsible gambler. (I guess.)

Most gamblers thinks gambling is like a game that has special moments of winning so even if they keep losing they don't care but still are focused on that particular time to make that winning they had in mind of making. Usually, when gambling it's always advisable to use specific amount that is not up to 10 percent of their monthly income or salary to gamble with this they can't feel the loses they may Incure while gambling, so a true gambler should know when to stop gambling without over betting on the amount and stop even when they are on long losing streak.

I wonder if a true gambler is a professional gambler? Or is a true gambler someone who only focuses on gambling without thinking about the results, whether it's losing or winning?

I tried to browse it and I found some differences between them:
Source: what is a true gambler? (https://www.reddit.com/r/nosleep/comments/13767rm/a_true_gambler/#:~:text=A%20true%20gambler%20doesn't,of%20unfolding%20the%20wining%20hand.)

and also this about being a professional gambler.

But, in my opinion, it's more about how a gambler places himself in gambling. The better the gambler manages the risks, manages his money, his deposit limit, and also manages his emotions very well, that's the nature of a gambler, who does not harm himself and others because of his gambling activities, no matter what his condition is.

You have a point on that. Because a true gambler will allocate certain funds so he can use it to finance his games. But for just occasional gambler or just wanting to pass his time, he will only spare small amount just to play some games and stop once it got busted. For most true gamblers, they will continue to play even to the extent of borrowing money from someone else. That's the dilemma of most true gamblers. They can't stop their desire of playing to the extent of borrowing money. Thus, for just regular or occasional gambler, they can stop when they feel they need to stop. I bet, a true gambler will incur some debts at one point in their life as they would want to suffice their desire.

A Gambler is a person with a true spirit of gambling, he gambles tiredlessly, consistently, effortlessly without feeling biased. A gambler with the true nature of gambling doesn't count the total amount of loses he had, but he always have the believe that wining Must come come one day even without a proove. A real Gambler don't panic when loses come but use it as a motivation to keep trying.

If you already accept the risk of losing, you are already a real gambler in my own definition, and if you can also take responsibility for all your decisions and don't blame the casino for your losses, you are also a real gambler.

For those who are not able to control themselves and lack self-control, they are real gamblers, but they fall under the category of irresponsible gamblers, as they might not be able to control how much they spend on gambling and are willing to lose anything.

I think if we say that you are a gambler, it means, for me, you are a gambler who plays at the casino on a daily basis, and those people called professional gamblers are, I think, gamblers who have had experience and can give advice to other gamblers.

If you just gamble and do not do it on a daily basis and are afraid to lose, I think we can't call you a true gambler.
About professional gamblers, I think they are the ones who give advice on any skill-based games like sports betting and card games.

I have another perspective about true gamblers. What do you think of this player who always risks his/her money to gamble on something like a game with a big jackpot? Those players keep playing because they are expecting a big return. That is the true gambler to me who gambles like in bingo and some slots with big jackpots. It's addicting and fun; I feel this, and I always win at bingo, the jackpot sometimes massive groceries and 1 sack of rice.
Meaning the true gambler are those who are addicted, who keeps going back to gamble even they know the risk but still they are expecting to be lucky and hit the jackpot.

A true gambler, notwithstanding which outcome they chose to have in mind first, must place more focus on limiting the time spent on gaming. Because when the losses come in excess it increases the risk of financial meltdown on the player's end.

I think this really hits the true definition of a gambler , someone who’s in it regularly, not just someone who comes and goes.
I guess I belong here too, but the problem is, I’m not a professional gambler who can guarantee profits.

Maybe for others, it just looks like I’m wasting money (especially when I’m losing).  :D
But honestly, I never stopped learning, even if it’s costing me. Maybe I just haven’t reached that point yet where I’m ready to give up.

To me a true gambler is someone who is always willing to risk it all. Go big or go home type and will bet on anything at anytime. Not someone who plays it smart and tries to slowly build up a bankroll. That would be someone known as a smart gambler. A real gambler is going to try to hit or lose millions.

I consider myself a gambler and even before I bet on a certain game, I look at the game with a higher chance of me losing than winning and when I put money into the game, I put it in my head that it is money lost before the game even starts. In other words, this allows me to see more clearly that gambling is just entertainment and not a source of income.

When people start having high expectations about profits in gambling, they tend to make many mistakes, such as playing with money they cannot afford to lose.

True gambler will always think that each bet is money lost, even before the game starts, true gambler will not place high expectations of profits in gambling

A true gambler is a real risk-taker even if it means losses first prior to winning. That’s the mindset of most gamblers, that there’s no easy win without consistent losses at first. However, if you gamble and just accept the reality that there’s no way to win but only constant losses, you are not an effective gambler.

A true gambler is one who push its limits and be able to reflect the outcome afterwards. That’s his way of learning his lesson when gambling. While others just end up leaving when they suffer from losses, but real gamblers are even more motivated to study the game so they can make adjustments and positive changes the next time they decide to gamble.

Just... people who gamble with money? That's more than enough for me. Doesn't really matter which side their oriented on or what they really want, it's not even something that should be THAT complicated. An addicted gambler is a gambler, a loser gambler is a gambler, a winner gambler is a gambler, someone who nitpicks every little thing but still spends money on gambling is STILL a gambler.

Well, I won't consider one who "fake" gambles it as one though. You know those scripted stuff.

It sucks to know that some set of humans think this way.
What is your definition of a true gambler? A true gambler is one who has discipline as an overall factor that changes the decree of influence that the game has on him/ the depth of loses that accumulates as a result of wrong decision making.

So people keep saying stuffs like   "I'll rather make the mistakes and learn from them than stop trying out risky opportunities which, sometimes (in rare cases), would cut it. But you see, the day you go broke, the casinos you play in won't be waiting at your doorstep to help you figure out how you survive despite losing everything to them, neither will they raise a go-fund-me for you. Business continues with other eligible client and you're left to face your miserable fate.

I think the situation you provided contains the true essence of gambling- understanding the risks and willing to move forward.

Always remember that a definition of a gambler is not limited to persons who play in an online gambling platform. Gamblers can also exist whenever there is a designated risk, they understand such risk, and they are willing to beat the odds.

Given the situation, we should not confine ourselves to the definition of a gambler to be exclusive for people who play on casinos. Gamblers also exists in our day-to-day lives (e.g. risking a high-risk situation, etc.). But the difference lies on the amount of risk or the calculated risk a person engages into.

Well in my own words for me a true gambler is the one who has mental ability to be able to stop gambling at will or has discipline to go on and stop when needed.

I break it into bullets:
-Dont use excessive funds more than what he can risk.
-Not afraid to lose during gambling time.
-Accepts further loss and dont do revenge gambling.
-Walk away when got some profits.
-Still be able to keep his humanity not for the sake of gambling.

I started on page 1 of this thread (topic), and I'll definitely appear on page 2 (My post ). I can bet on that.

Yes, I bet, I like to gamble, but that doesn't make me a gambler. The definition of that depends intrinsically on whether it's your profession or G-A, G-B.

(imo)Then, you can call yourself whatever you want or define it however you want. What happens in your life with that, where that leads us in the realm of gambling.(imo)

Anyway!
I think you have to find yourself first and understand what winning or losing money means in your life. Then the reality is, at least from a legal standpoint, it should matter to you.

On the other hand, there are the stupid people or the snobs who want to pretend to be gamblers. The reality is that true gamblers are so few in the sense of essence that they're like unicorns.

A gambler isn't a loser- winner like you or most people would have on mind. A gambler is someone who makes gambling their way of life and doesn't die trying.

Unfortunately, for ( they)  individuals, we have a groups from that idea:
(G-A) Casual or so-called recreational gamblers; 90% of players or individuals (they)

(G-B) Degenerates. This category could include the aforementioned, professional and recreational (G-A), yeah! (All) occasionally they are G-B ( 1% could remain stuck in this group)

Conclusion: there's no definition as such that benefits other gamblers from knowing what type of gamblers other individuals are. Unless it's specifically important to know oneself.

Most of them tend to have a tendency to get entertainment and they love to define gambling in such a way that they do not make any real effort to earn money. Suppose you are hanging out with your friends and you bet on your favorite team with your other friend. You may know for sure that you will lose but you will still be tempted to bet because you are doing it for entertainment and not for earning money. While betting you may not be confident in yourself and most of the time you try to involve yourself in increasing your tendency to win. I think those bets can be experimental and can be made by real gamblers. Most of the time experienced gamblers do it for fun with their friends and despite the possibility of losing.

Indeed. Having that mindset of still betting even after knowing that he odds are really not in your favor and that there’s every possibility of losing the money is a great attribute of a true gambler. Some people have this believe that a true gambler isn’t someone who is afraid to lose and is willing to take risks, while this is half true, a gambler who has a misconception of what gambling really is, may also end up falling under this category and it’ll only make him spend recklessly on gambling without thinking twice and with hopes of winning big one day, now that’s not the mindset of a true gambler. If these are done with the sole intentions of having fun, then it’s pretty much okay because this would really help you to know the amount of risk to take and how much exactly to spend when gambling, thus even if you’re not afraid of taking risks or losing, you’ll not feel that much impact of the losses since you’re only gambling within your means.

Yes, something like that. If we think about people who earn money with skill games they are not called that.

For me the concept would be applied to someone who bets regularly in casino games and controls in such a way that what he bets does not mean a hole in his finances if he loses it and if he wins he knows how to stop and enjoy the money.

Some people get into this scenario before deciding to stay. In fact, I have a friend who tried gambling just to experience it, but when he won at the first bet, it changed his mind, thinking that there was money in gambling. And so he continued without hesitation until he reached the point that he couldn't control himself and became addicted.

We can say they are gamblers, but not smart gamblers. They can afford to gamble and spend money, but can't afford to take losses. What makes a real gambler different from a casual gambler is their behavior.

We have our own definition of a true gambler. But IMO, the type who doesn't care on how much money he/she will spend in gambling but able to accept the losses for being aware of the risk (therefore prepared for the worse case) is a true gambler in my understanding. I'm an  occasional gambler, playing to entertain myself but I have set limit on how much funds to use. Anyway, you can be called a gambler if you're risking your money in casinos. It's just that there are different type of gamblers depending on how we deal on it.

If they can accept the risk of gambling, they don't have to think anything except enjoy the games. We have many preferences about the real gamblers but I think the real gamblers are someone who can control themselves in gambling.

Besides that, if we can manage the risk, that will not give us problem because we know what we need to do with that. We just need to have fun in gambling, stop gambling while we think it is enough.

We don't chase the win or recover the lose as we know that is difficult. So that will be the true gambler.

Generally, I think gamblers should be more loss-oriented than win-oriented, if there are such things. To be loss-oriented is to be realistic. That's not just a mindset. The arithmetic of gambling itself supports it. The design of gambling itself supports it.

If you go to a casino thinking you'd win, you will more likely come out disappointed because the probability of you losing is constantly higher than the probability of you winning. That's a mathematical fact.

Moreover, there's danger when a gambler is win-oriented. To a certain extent, he's out of touch with reality. He'd continue to gamble and gamble believing he'd be winning. Unfortunately, in gambling, he's more destined to be losing.

There is a fine line between a risk taker and a true gambler. For me, the main distinction between someone who takes risks and a gambler comes down to their mindset and how they act. A risk-taker thinks things through, they size up the situation, consider the good and bad points, and choose based on planning and reason. They face the unknown with a solid plan. Let's say I wanted to put money into a new business. I'd look into it first checking out the market and figuring out how likely it is to do well.

Now, a gambler often goes with their gut or just plain luck. They proceed not knowing what will happen and they tend to make quick choices without thinking about what could go wrong. If I were to bet big at the roulette wheel without knowing my chances or having any kind of plan, that would be more like gambling.

I don't even know what loss orientation could be. I mean, how could it possibly affect a gambler's mathematical chances of losing.
It's just that no matter what kind of person sits down at a slot machine or at a roulette wheel, be it a pessimist or an optimist, everyone's chances will still be absolutely the same. Only if such a person does not play those gambling games in which he himself makes his contribution, for example, poker or blackjack. There, of course, with inadequate behavior, he can immediately zero out your deposit.

For me, I don't have such thoughts, like real or true gambler. What I know is, there's a smart gambler who knows how to control their emotions, not letting emotions take advantage of them. Following their set daily limits, not getting carried away. Then there's the other one who always lets their emotions take over, whether they are losing or winning, not setting daily limits, or not having a clear goal or plan even after winning big. Just playing and trying to win every session.

I see two types of real players. One type is very dependent people who do not have the goal of winning, or it is not in the first place. His main goal is regular play, probably because this way he gets some compensation for feelings that he does not get offline in life. All games and winnings become a vicious circle that makes a person come back and play.
Another type of real player I see are people who can understand in time that, at a certain moment, it is necessary to end the game. Still, despite this, he plays regularly and gets more benefits from gambling, having the right intuition and a strong character so as not to fall into addiction.

A true gambler is a person that understands how gambling works and follows the principle of not getting addicted. If a gambler understands that gambling is not a get rich quick scheme and knows about the house edge they'll learn how to gamble responsibly. A responsible gambler has a budget for gambling and the amount should be something that they can afford to loose. They don't become overconfident to continue gambling when winning or be chasing loses when losing. Never take a loan or sell your property to gamble, it's not a business that you must make profit.

Call it whatever you want, a true gambler focus more on losing side than winning because gambler brings more losses than winning anyway, this is a perfect way to counter gambling phycology, you just defined who I am as a gambler.

Let my wins find me when I am not seeking, it makes me feel better at how I am handling gambling, nothing beats this strategy, as others are screaming about a winning streak or method I am hear allowing luck to lead the way.

Accepting the truth is very hard but if you get a hold of it you will see things clearer than others, gambling brings losses more than winning, be prepared for this than you going around looking for way to win by all means necessary.

I think a true gambler might be someone who gambles with a good attitude and behavior in the gambling they do as you said for example, setting the right limits such as in terms of the capital deposited, the time spent or even the behavior itself which is responsible without excessive behavior in gambling.
But it is true what you said not everyone is like that because the number of people who gamble is the opposite of the statement above.

First, we should ask ourselves,  what’s the real definition of gambling?
If we’re doing exactly what fits that definition and we’re honest about it, then we’re true gamblers. Kinda messy explanation, but I think that’s it.  ;D

Anyway, I don’t think it’s that important to overthink it.
Just keep it simple: enjoy, stay in control, and never get addicted. If we can do that, then gambling will just feel like a normal thing, because we’re educated enough to manage the risk, even if we can’t deny that in the long run, losses are part of it.

"Willing to lose" is the wrong phrase, as if someone has the will and desire to lose... A true/real gambler is "ready to lose" all his money playing a game his way. And that's what we can do, to play the game our way, to be brave enough to make a bold move at some point and.... and then whatever happens happens.

A true gambler knows his chances, and is aware that there is no 101% sure bet. So whatever happens, he is prepared for that outcome, even if it means losing everything. As I often say, it's up to us to try, and we'll see what happens. It's up to us to give it a try, and the result will show if we were right... And if things go wrong, the gambler doesn't cry or make a fuss, he just moves on and waits for his next moment.

They're real gamblers, there's nothing like real or fake gamblers because all we have are gamblers. A gambler is someone who's staking his money on the possibility that he's going to win or lose from the bet that he's participating in. The bet might've been on casino games or sports events but the better has no clue on the outcome of the bets before it was placed. Despite how you're gambling still it doesn't disqualify you from being called a gambler. What you only have to do is the make sure that you're not wasting your money but putting it to good use as you're gambling so you don't end up with nothing after spending money gambling. A gamblers needs to know that what he's doing is serious business and not a joke because there's nothing there to joke but to try to win.

If a true gambler is defined as someone who gambles continuously, then I think the term is very close to gambling addiction. I could be wrong, but I see a common thread in both terms. The limits that are then set are a way to minimize the risk of losses that exceed the limit, and in that way someone can return to gambling with a happy feeling. Without problems, without pressure, and enjoying every type of bet or game. Therefore, instead of calling it a true gambler, I tend to call it an addiction. Betting a lot of money and spending a lot of time gambling does not reflect someone is a true gambler.

Since everyone have their own perspective, so this will be hard to decide who will be the true gambler. But, for me, true gambler is not because he is playing regularly, but how he is able to handle himself while betting. Thousand people playing slots every day, sport betting, poker, etc, but even they are playing regularly, it will not be making them as true gambler.

Nobody wants to be a loser, but it's a platform where gamblers have no control of the results. A true gambler is not loss oriented but I prefer to call them fun-oriented, where they prefer to accept whatever results their betting will bring them and just enjoy the experience.

Real gamblers are in full control of what they are doing; they do not bet more than what they can afford to lose and are acceptable to the results of their betting. These gamblers log off without feeling guilty or sorry about their actions.
 

Its a tricky question. The way I see it, gambling's always kinda been about putting something on the line while hoping to get more back.  If someone goes into it thinking they'll probably lose their money but they just wanna have a fun night out, that makes me wonder if they really count as a true gambler.   

I can see your point about them trying to stay in control by focusing on the potential loss. It's like putting up a wall so it don't hurt as bad if they walk away empty-handed.  But even if they're being careful with their feelings, they still decided to play those games where you can win or lose big and  so maybe it comes down to the choice they made not what they're telling themselves while they play.  Does that negate their status as a gambler? I don't think so.

It is unclear how winning or losing may depend on what the gambler is focused on. Is it really possible that if I really want to win, I will win? And if I think about losing, I will lose. If only it was that easy to win... If true gamblers only think about winning, then for some reason in reality they lose in the same way as non-true gamblers who do not think about losing, but about not losing too much. Following this logic, it is better not to be a true gambler.

I think it should only be measured by winning and losing.

If you lose too much, it means you're not gambling within your limits, and that’s already another topic, more about addiction.

Here, I believe the focus is on being a responsible gambler. You should know how much you can afford to risk. For example, if you’re willing to risk $100, you should stop once you lose that $100 or once you hit your target. And, let’s say your goal is $500, it’s hard, but possible. The important thing is, stick to the plan.

A true gambler is someone who really enjoys and loves this activity. If the individual is just doing some experiments, he can still be considered a gambler, but not with the same intensity of a gambler who plays immersively, enjoying and absorbing each detail of the games and their mechanisms.

It's like the comparision between a soccer fan who only watches the matches of the national team on World Cup every 4 years and the soccer fan who watches the matches and follows news about the clubs and championships in a weekly basis.

Both enjoy soccer, but the intensity and time they spend with this, and their emotional attachment to it are different.

In different contexts the term true gambler can have different meanings to, some of my friends say a true gambler is someone who likes to take a lot of risks, likes challenges and behaves like an addict this is a negative form of a true gambler but in another perspective it is interpreted as a responsible gambler who can control emotions and develop strategies, so in my opinion if you want to know the definition of a true gambler is by our own way of dealing with it and what kind of gambling activities we are currently doing are we included in the category of true gamblers (negative) or responsible true gamblers (positive)?

Why should someone define a true gambler? Would it be someone who dedicates his life to gambling even though he is aware that he will lose more than he wins?
I will see a true gambler where the gambler not only accepts the risk of loss that they can bear, but the gambler knows how to enjoy the purpose of their gambling. Most gamblers definitely aim to win the bet. So if the gambler wins, they will enjoy it, not just continue the game until the balance is empty again.

It is unclear how what is called a true gambler, if more defeat than victory, for me there is no true gambler who has gambling is a game, where someone is Play and make money when they win and lose losses for them, don't know where to sit true.

There is no experiment in gambling, they come by making a deposit and bet, the misguided someone comes to gambling just to test the game or determine and to find out whether gambling is Really can be defeated or won, anyone comes to their gambling betting vs. money is not experiment.

Having ready to lose doesn't mean you don't give a fuck about trying to win.

Gamblers are always trying to win because they stake real money, the money they got from something they've trade with their effort and time. That's why gamblers have a high heart beat or you feel your heart pumping faster, it's caused by adrenaline and excitement to win in gambling.

Even they have no purpose to win, I will call them a true gambler, regardless what their motives, as long as they gamble using real money.

You are describing a gambler that is already near to addiction. It’s not necessary that you need to go that far just to categorize as gambler. A simple act of betting will make you a gambler because you are risking your money for a chance to win hence gambling.

A simple taking risk is a real definition of gambler while the description that you mention is already on hard core category especially the gambling tirelessly.

I’m proud to be a real gambler because I play gambling games but I’m not that much dedicated on gambling.

What's the essence of gambling in the first place? For fun or for profit, these are the two different question that every gamblers should first of all figure out for themselves so they will know the category they falls into, I think that gambling should be something we should be doing for fun just as you have said already, so the ideal way to go about it is to gamble with an amount you can afford to lose, so that you wouldn't be bothered if it goes against you, so my definition of a real gambler is not those do or die gamblers, it's those that gambles with what they can afford to lose, and those that doesn't sees it as a do or die thing, that's my own take of a real gambler, not those that sees it as a means of income, which will eventually leads to addiction if they can't control themselves while doing it.

Gambling is about winning and profiting and if you know all the necessary strategy to profit while you don't follow it then you are not doing well as a gambler. There is a reason they say gamble responsibly. So if you are taking risk without profit, your gambling strategy is not valuable.


They not the real gamblers for me. Those who are making money are the real gamblers and not does taking unnecessary risk with nothing to show for it.


They are not experimenting. They are gambling but maybe are not going to make more money than they are losing.

I am more loss-oriented as a gambler. It makes me see things as they are. It helps to to be prepared any situation. It makes how I manage the risks that comes with it to be top notch. And this loss-oriented mindset is because the type of casino game I play is one where the outcome is not within my control and everything depends on luck rather than skill. This mindset helps stay in control of the things I can control - that is my bankroll, the time spent gambling, the frequency of gambling, others things.

In my opinion they are the real gamblers and the reason I'm saying that is because gambling is a 50/50 thing, you can either win or lose. If a gambler can accept losses in his mind even before he starts, this makes him a real gambler. Anytime any amount of money goes into your sports betting account or casino account you must learn to accept whatever outcomes you get, that's the definition of a real gambler, one who isn't scared to lose.

One does not need to think too much about it, actually. And the definition of who a true gambler is depends whom you ask, to begin with. In my personal opinion, a true gambler is someone who regularly gambles and have a fixed gambling budget to partake in such activity once a week or once a month, or whatever. The important for of the definition is whether there is a continuation and a constant volume from the person into the casino.
Under that definition, casual gamblers are not true gamblers, but I would make an expecting with them, since they also give money to the casino, it is just they rather doing it in a social context, instead gambling alone.

And as we all know, everything is funnier when it is done in the company of others whom we appreciate, friends, family or even one's partner.

In gambling your mental orientation wouldn't determine your experience. You can have a winning mentality and till experience a long losing streak. Gambling outcomes are mainly determined by skills and luck. In fact, having an orientation that you will win can lead to loss chasing. My advice is for you to have a gambling budget and follow it strictly. A real gambler gambles for entertainment but he still expects wins. A real gambler gambles responsibly.

In my own opinion,a true gambler is someone that knows when to stop at a certain point.gambling is risky and doesn't give any guarantee for our money and that's why a true gambler shouldn't be addictive, he should be discipline enough to control his emotions and shouldn't throw everything he has at the table simply because he is a gambler and a risk taker. Sometimes when the odds isn't favourable,an experience gambler should know when to walk away and reserve some money for another time. A true gambler shouldn't gamble recklessly,he should be experience and have enough knowledge about what's he is gambling for,he should harness his skills and should be able to analyze a game properly to boost his chances of getting it right because sometimes  our chances of winning depends on our  luck.

The definition of a true gambler is someone that's ready to accept losses and move on from it easily without having any sort of emotional distress... Everyone can gamble but not everyone has the heart of a gambler, a true gambler is different from an Indisciplined and immature gambler, these category of gamblers are the ones that can't accept losses and they start gambling uncontrollably to get back what they have lost...This is what distinguishes a true gambler from an immature gambler.

Many people go to gamble for various reasons. So it is impossible to say with certainty what is the intention. Maybe they gamble to experiment, that is why they are afraid of taking risks and are cautious. Or maybe they just go there for fun. But no matter what the purpose of gambling is, if they continue it regularly, after a while they become addicted to gambling and the result is arrogance. Although they are afraid at first, later their emotions work there and they get greedy there. Because in gambling, sometimes loss and sometimes gain, these control us in such a way that if a gambler gambles for a long time, he is bound to become addicted to it.

I began the game very carefully and the first goal was not to lose. I think that it is normal goal for everybody. But the same time i decided to play to find additional income, so the main goal was to win.
If we willn`t count gamblers, who play just for fun and don`t cares about the results - all other want to get profit. Is it enough to be called gambler? Even if they don`t want to lose? As for me - it is enough to be a gambler.

Real gamblers are risk takers, they are immune to regrets after losing. I wouldn't really call it willingness to lose but they are just mature enough to know that in gambling anything can happen and the results are not in anyone's control. Someone who isn't a true gambler would try to avert his losses forgetting that it's an Inevitable outcome. Having such mindset about gambling would make you reduce your expectations.

Real gamblers is a very diversified term in the sense that for some people real gamblers can be the ones who never stop and keep playing despite heavy losses while some other persons consider real gamblers the ones who have the capability to quit and never look back meaning that they are superior to gambling and they can get out of addiction showing a symbol of superiority. Based on this I would say everyone is a real gambler in his way of gambling and even these people who keep playing with experimenting in their mind can be considered real gamblers for the simple reason that they may hit it big one day thanks to such experiments while me and you are still trying to hit it big.

It is simple for me, true gamblers are those who are willing to spend their money and ready for any possible result from their gambling activities.
Not only about ready of losing money but also ready for winning big amount, because some people may not be ready for winning big which may affect them psychologically.
For additional things, true gamblers in positive side are those who can control their gambling habit wisely or in the most popular words "responsible gambling".
However, true gamblers usually refer to those who are willing to risk their money for other money, nothing else.

In my understanding, once you deposit and bet at a casino, you are already considered a gambler, even if we say that we are just experimenting or just trying it. Unless you just looked at the website to check what is inside the casino platform but you did not deposit, it can be considered that you are not a gambler, but there are chances that you will become a gambler.

The casino is just there, it is really up to us if we decide to play at a casino, and once we play, you are already a gambler but you are not addicted to gambling,
but in the near future we can become addicted if we let ourselves be.

I've seen "true gamblers" and they just cannot help themselves, it's almost synonymous for being a gambling addict. In the most extreme scenarios, they have had access to a lot of money - say through an inheritance, but were not stable enough to know what to do with the money. So they started with a fortune, which they gradually wheedled down by playing scratch cards every day until they barely had anything left. In another scenario, any time they enter a casino it is an opportunity to gamble on anything, even though there is no skill involved and they simply want to chase the thrill of betting big - sometimes they are up and walk away at the right time, but quite often they take a hit after losing a few games in a row.

True gamblers understand that gambling is just for fun, losing and winning are part of gambling and they really enjoy it when they lose or win. However, when he loses, he will definitely evaluate and want to learn from his mistakes because after all when gambling we will be happier when we experience victory. Because not only can you get money but also get joy that cannot be explained in words, especially when gambling offline.

The point is, true gamblers know how to gamble without making a mess of their finances.

let's not gatekeep who a real gambler and who is not.

sticking to the facts, by definition, a gambler is simply a person who gambles, nothing more, nothing less.
it really doesn't matter whether they are more loss-oriented or win-oriented, in the end of the day, no one is gonna beat the odds in a game of chance.

personally, i'm more fun-oriented, so i guess i'm not a real gambler then. lol

Gambling is a risky and we all know about this, that's why if we go for gambling we must afraid about this, Those who are more cautious about gambling are definitely not regular or addicted gamblers. Because addicted gamblers are never afraid of anything in advance and they gamble with a lot of confidence all the time. Especially, even if they do not win anything good themselves, they are inspired a lot by seeing the winning stories of others and they start adopting their different strategies and think themselves much smarter. So of course those who are afraid of gambling losses are not actual gamblers. They probably go there for the experience or they try to get some fun from there but they do not consider gambling as their main source of fun.

Many people define a true gambler as someone who risks everything.However, risking it all and ending up with nothing seems counterproductive.In my view,a true gambler gambles responsibly,wagering only what they can afford to lose.They don't rely on gambling as a primary source of income.Moreover,being overly focused on winning can lead to addiction,making it a more significant disadvantage than being loss-oriented.

As long as they are staking something of value in an uncertain event in expectation of something better, then they are gamblers. Sometimes, being loss-oriented could be a method that has helped them stay in control of their emotions. Even if they are loss-oriented, it does not suggest that they get upset whenever they win; in fact, it would be strange to find anyone who gets upset for winning. These guys already have this self-consciousness and have come to accept that gambling is risky. Trust me, they don't feel happy losing. They are just trying hard to strike a balance and protect their mental health.

As for me, once someone gives up on gambling, they are not a true gambler. A true gambler, by definition, is a person who risks it all. If someone only risks what they can afford to lose, I don't consider them a true gambler.As far as I know, gambling is all about luck. A true gambler will continue taking risks because they don't know when luck will favor them. I know someone who, whenever it comes to gambling, always gives it their all. There was a day when this person won a very large sum of money from gambling. They had gambled with almost all the money they had, leaving only enough for transportation. They took the risk and said, "Whatever happens, happens.Unfortunately, it was this final risk that led to their big win.Assuming he hadn't risked the money they had with them, they might not have won that big amount if money. I am not encouraging people to risk everything they have, but I am pointing out that most people who win big are those who are always ready to risk it all.

This is a gambler, if your goal is to make money, then you depend on the game, because there is no way to analyse the bet so that it has a better chance of success, because in such games always plays a huge role luck, and if it is present, it is already extremely risky type of income, which is a game of money. In general, it is also not bad if you can safely stop playing and do it only on weekends, for fun, say, if it turns out to earn - well, no - so be it. But making it a full-fledged attempt to earn money is a losing idea

It doesn't matter if they will be called true gamblers just because they're willingly accepting their losses even before they gamble or not. To be honest, that's a good mindset for someone who gambles than for those that can't accept defeat. If they're into experimentation, only them will know and not us. There is no problem if they are gambling and if they're losing, they're oriented with that and stay in control. That's the better approach when we gamble and we know where we should stand because if not, the result of losing might impact them negatively.

In my opinion, a true gambler is someone that is ready to easily accept their losses and move on quickly, someone that doesn't gambler with the amount they can afford to lose, someone that can take their time to do proper analysis before betting, someone that doesn't depend on the the prediction of other people. Because of all these factors, some persons have already master the ability to accept their faith, regardless of a negative or positive results. It's not an  experiment as you think but that's how those people have train their self to become because of long time experiences.

Yes? As long as you gamble, you're a gambler since there are gamblers who gamble for fun and doesn't really care about it like it's considered as gone once you've met the thrill in gambling, the wins are bonuses. Some gamblers are aiming for the wins and those are the common ones, while the others like to experiment or just have fun which is considered as gamblers too. Maybe they're very aware of the situations or like maybe they want to fully control the situations and don't want gambling to ruin their selves.

If you've fully accepted faith, yet you still take the risks but in a practical way, you're still a gambler. Every space/industry in this world develops and people are innovating a lot of things, so if they're just being efficient on gambling, you can't blame them if you're a type of gambler who just want to roll out everything and they aren't.

For example, are you considered a TRADER if you're just copying TA from experts, copy trading or just relying to some historical chart or patterns? YES, because that's your way of trading, multiple data gathered, diversified and efficient, so you can gain profit in many possible ways and the important thing is, it's your money.

Same thing to gambling, touching waters, risk management, and controlled funds are also true gamblers, people just don't want to lose money especially to some rig or manipulated platform. It's okay to be like that than risking a lot and losing everything, lol easiest way to get poor nowadays. And besides, maybe those who have controlled funds or being careful are the consistent ones who gamble everyday, making the casino lively than those who are so called "true gamblers" that loses money in a single day then be back next month after getting work and payout lol.

Risking everything just to be called a true gambler, jeez these are the same people in my country who get addicted and loses a lot, then gonna borrow money to a friend just to gamble again.

So gamblers can’t just give up on gambling or maybe take a break from gambling for some time? And why will you even be gambling, and all you will want to do is risk it all, when gambling there is suppose to be a limit, and you shouldn’t exceed the limit irrespective of the condition which you are at that particular period of time. If you are gambling, then it should be done responsible, you don’t do crazy things just because you want to gamble, it doesn’t make any sense. From your post, you said gambling is a luck, since you already know it’s a luck, then why risking everything you have in something that their is no assurance that you are going to be winning.

I am not gamble police lol. I consider anyone a gambler if they say they are. We all have different approaches and strategies when it comes to gambling so who is there to say what is the “real” ones if there even is one.
Failing to see how trying to be in control while enjoying gambling is only an experiment and not an actual gambling activity.

For me, true gamblers are those who do gamble but do not ignore control and self-control over the gambling activities they do. That for me is a gambler who is truly said to be a true gambler because after all we must be aware that in the end not many people can do that.

So when someone can gamble but they can control themselves well in terms of self-control then they will not be easily played by gambling and in fact they will assume that gambling is just a game but currently many are in a condition where even though we are the ones who gamble but we ourselves are the ones who are played by the gambling itself which makes the situation worse and that is the opposite of true gamblers even though they brag as if they are true gamblers but their mentality and self-control cannot be lied to.

I believe that lack of bankroll management is what make the whole thing to be tought for most gamblers, you see a situations where some gamblers go over their budget and instead pd using a low bankroll in making bets, their tend to get carried away with greed to the point that they become heavy loser im the end.

Deciokis one attribute that a gambler must develop, and being able to play with a very low amount and having such low  bankroll management makes you a smart gambler in the end.

When you understand gambling, you will find out that someone who calls him or herself a True gambler will accept the risk of gambling without stressing about the wins. To him or her, they have learned about the fact that gambling is more of loss bets than wins. If they win is by luck not by their intelligence. They should expect more of a loss bet from gambling, as gambling is hard to predict.

However, what I stated above is what I thought a gambler would be. To bet without many expectations to win instead loss bets.

Perhaps what to meant is impulsive gamblers here? I mean those gamblers who don't have the self-discipline to stick with their plans. And once they got the feel of losing, something in their mind switch and then become to lose control and then just go YOLO.

As compare to gamblers who has a set of limit as far as their capital and if that empty, then they stop. So there could be different kind of gamblers around here, the impulsive and the self-discipline one but still falls down on one category as a true gambler. So there is no definition per se for me, it's just some are really strategic, while others decision are clouded after a lost.

A real gambler is possessed of being normal and treats gambling like a day-to-day activity. Whether they win or lose, they still look like nothing happened. Their behavior is different compared to non-professional gamblers. Their actions speak a lot.

I think they have a lot of control over themselves (emotions), making them look too easy despite losing. Of course, they were also struggling hard before, but their experience is a big factor that influences their behavior and makes it right. This will also happen to us as we grow old, as our minds become mature enough to handle these things.

We can not deny the fact that you will feel stressed each time that you lose a game, I think it normal most especially when Money is involved, majority of current gamblers are all gambling with the aim to win and so their place a very big amount on each games and when you lose, it hit hard.

being disappointed is different from crashing out and spiraling down just because you lost some people would commit violence or other crimes if they lost and they would want to continue chasing losses trying to get their money back

you can be disappointed when you lose and still move on and a true gambler can experience this it is part of gambling after all

true gambler are always intelligent and  very calculative,they always weighs odds of a particular situation and patiently wait for the best outcome before they continue with their bet, they have a very high level of self-control, tolerance and most times are being frustrated, they don't allow anger to take over them since it can affect their performance.

 A true gambler believes that gambling is long-term and when we win and lose within a short period of time, we should not see it as that is how gambling is,or as the overall strategy but stick to your game to avoid decisions that will make them walk away when necessary.
 True gamblers are risk takers, optimistic, findings maker,they go extra miles, to solve problems, they are firm and strong in whatever they do, they are always calm and level headed.

It's not a typical experimental session when they all want to lose their money from their bets. Maybe a couple of them would land them some good cause by looking at the strategies they're formulating but these gamblers that have the big awareness of losing, they've matured on the process and that losing is part of gambling. Staying in control and still making themselves not addicted on it can be said and classify them as real gamblers. They don't mind if people will call them that and the typical gamblers like them don't look at other's world because what means to them is only their bets and money.

A gambler who always feel stressed whenever he gets a lose, it means he doesn't understand the nature of gambling. If a gambler enjoy the gambling games, he will be never stressed. It is normal if someone can feel sad at a moment but a true gambler mustn't be sad for a long time. In my opinion, true gamblers are those people who enjoy the games and they don't think to much about losses. They know that losses are something usual in gambling, it happens almost every time we gamble.

Yes, true gamblers must be strong and always have ideas to solve the problems. Not sure about the risks you mean here, is it about losing money or addiction? True gamblers must be aware of the possibility of losing money, it is something unavoidable. Regarding the addiction, it can be avoided if we have some limitations in gambling.

When their are gambling for fun and using a very small amount of money to gamble with, that way they enjoy the game and they focus is on the fun aspect of it and not the winning or money that comes in from the winning, what generate stress most times is nothing but when a gambler gamble with the aim of.
1: when the gambler gamble with the intention of hitting a jackpot, and at the end losing out
2: when gambler gamble chasing their previous losses and at the end losing more.
Anyone that is gambling with the above listed aim and focus they will definitely get stressed out when they desire failed to actualize.

Real gamblers don't chase losses or have regrets after losing because they are mentally mature to accept the outcomes of the game. Gambling is a game of winning and losses, you are a not a real gambler if you cannot accept your losses you are not a real gambler.  If you call yourself a true gambler you must always be ready to take risks in gambling, that's what the game is all about. Mentally I always assume that every bet I place is always lost before I even stake. Losses are inveitable.

It is difficult but it is possible, i proved it myself. I agree that in common it is bad idea to think that you can get stable profit from gambling. But for someone it is possible, i had about 1.5 year only profitable months.
Of course i`m talking about sport betting, random games are 100% unpredictable with RTP less than 100% what means that gambler always lose.

At the end of the day, it's all about personal opinion. I think that the true gamblers are the ones, who are in control of their betting activity, but there might be people, who think that a true gambler is a hardcore gambling addict, who is willing to bet his house or his wife.
There's noting wrong with being loss-oriented and trying to stay in control over your bets. Being win-oriented is actually more dangerous and it can lead to developing an addiction.
What do you mean by "willing to lose even before they start gambling"? I don't know about anyone, who is willing to waste money on gambling, before starting to play gambling games.

True gambler, has the balls to take and accept losses.

A real gambler is free to chase their losses but they know when to give up and they don't have to be too much to themselves. While the gamblers that can't accept reality and have hard time giving themselves a rest, they're just a bunch of immature gamblers that can't accept defeat.

As long as there's money involved and they are risking it, they are still real gamblers.

I think it's just the damage that was done by too much gambling, which makes them think that way. A little bit of rest will probably cure this problem. I do understand it because I have been in that same position, but in my case, it is with slots. Well, that type of game is mostly loss-oriented, so you cannot expect too much from it, and you will just think that any minute it will take away all your funds.

Very different when it comes to sports. As much as possible, I want that winning chance because I did some work and effort before I place those bets, unlike how it goes with slots.

The loss-oriented and win-oriented thing, I do not agree with you because this doesn't matter at all in gambling, your win-oriented mindset won't help you win any more than the other gambler you think has a loss-oriented mindset, but this is if there was even anything as a loss-oriented mindset because I've not come across any person gambling who's goal or wish is to lose and continue losing money, every gambler I know including myself want to win but unfortunately, most times the loses are unavoidable.

So what I am saying in essence is that, whether a person is loss or win oriented in mindset, their actions and luck is what decides their fate in gambling, and reason is that winning can't be forced as long as its gambling we are talking about, if people can force their way into winning, most casinos today would have gone bankrupt because I don't see any gambler who happy losing all the time for a long time..

A true gambler will always choose responsiblility over gambling, such people do all they can to lower their risks so that they won't end up going broke because of bad decisions in gambling.

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Such people don't depend on gambling as a solution to all their problems, they believe in their business and job and on the other hand they gamble only maybe they can be lucky someday.

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For them family and responsibility comes first, nothing can hinder the sense of putting their families first in everything they do, they understand the risk of gambling and they manage their gambling habit with the risk on the table.

As far as I know, a true gambler means a gambler who really takes the best possible chances when gambling, and they usually minimize losses in their own way, and one way that I see from some true gamblers is by using martingale and the like, so the point is when they experience a loss they will try their best to comeback or even get more profit, that's what I know.While what the OP said is I don't think it is a true gambler, how can someone who doesn't really seek profit in gambling be called a true gambler?. For me, what you said is a responsible gambler.

An experienced gambler must carefully consider every step before making a decision. Inexperienced gamblers never make decisions without thinking. In addition to making the right decisions, an experienced gambler has the ability to control himself, but an inexperienced gambler can never control himself. An experienced gambler is never greedy in nature, but rather, if he loses while participating in gambling, he calmly determines what to do next.

A gambler is one who understands the outcome of a game is not uncertain, and never expect it must be a win. A gamblers always see gambling as fun and not as a means to generate money.  A gambler is one who really understand gambling and plays without attaching greed and selfishness. The main purpose of gambling is to have fun and to win without much expectation but when the fun is not there and winning is expected by all means.

If gambling is all about hustling to win and expecting so much from it, then I think it is no more gambling , it is becoming a hustle that one cares no more about it uncertainty.

A true gambler is a person that has total control over their gambling habit, without having self control a person cannot quality as a true gambler. The control in gambling has much to do with bankroll management, if you can control how much you use for gambling, then you're a true gambler. Becoming a true and responsible gambler most times is from experience or learning from the experiences of responsible gamblers. Knowing when to stop gambling is very important, experience and bankroll management will tell you when to quit for the day.

The real question is, who do you consider a real gambler? Someone who loses money or someone who gambles in general? Suppose you are someone who is involved in gambling. In that case, whether you are trying to defend your bankroll (loss-oriented) or trying to make some money (win-oriented), you are a gambler. Now, I don't know who would be called a real gambler, and who would be called a fake gambler or a person who is just experimenting.

In my opinion, we all experiment when we gamble because gambling is a place where we try our luck and see if we can win something or not. If you are someone who thinks they can win money from gambling constantly, then you have the wrong perception about gambling because it is not possible. So what we should be doing is experimenting with amounts of money that we can afford to lose only to see if we can get lucky or not.

It does seem to be true, no one would just want to lose money, or perhaps you don't understand their mindset about the losses per se. And of course, if we think it through to the gambling spirit and rule, it's better you gamble with the money you can afford to lose. By that, they've written off the money from their minds, which I see as heroic rather than cowardly because they've expected the worst and prepared their minds for it so that it will not affect them. This doesn't change the outcome of their betting, does it? It only changed their attitude towards the wagering amount.

Yes, I do. I hope you can see the bravery in what they do rather than believing they are pessimistic about their gambling outcome.

Some gamblers have been losing money even from real work they are doing and how do you expect such person not to be scared of losing when gambling. Normally gambling does not guarantee any winnings which is why we need to know what we are doing when gambling. Gamble with what you know you can afford to make not using all the funds you have to gamble. It will be unwise if any gamble use all the funds in their bankroll to gamble at once with the hope if hitting a jackpot. The reality with come true when they don't win such a bet. This is what normally cause emotional discomfort to many gamblers, then trying to get the lost funds back by gambling recklessly.

I will call them real gamblers because of their sense of responsibility and due to the way they approach their gambling lifestyle such that they don't put themselves in a state of distress or unnecessary pressure while gambling.

Then again, I will also agree that they are doing some kind of experiment which is where the gambling for fun comes into play because inasmuch as they are gambling without a winning mentality, they will always gamble with what they can afford to lose so when they win even while having that possible lose mentality, it is part of the experiment.

No expectation of winning is not same as one who seek loss, those are entirely different. When someone enters gambling with no expectation they will not be affected much from loss so their decision making skills will be straight as usual that gives an edge over their results and betting behaviour...

Yes, they are gamblers and anyone who gamble is gamblers, there's no need for approval.

A true gambler is one that doesn’t take the outcomes to the games they bet on personal.

It doesn’t matter just how often you play the game but, you’ve got to be regular to some extent that is considerably wise for your finances and then, you’ve understand the concept behind every bet you place. You know it’s a risk and can go either ways which, you’re always open to accepting. That’s a true gambler and not those that would be addicted and beat themselves over a lose, those aren’t gamblers, those are persons looking for means to survive and not be productive themselves.

The moment you deposit money to play your favourite game or on your favourite sports, be very aware that you are already eligible to lose that money. You were safer not betting that money than betting because if you hadn't bet that money at least it is still ours but once you put it down, you are already like in the negative.

If it is sports bet, the casino's odds are already against you, the possibility that the team would completely mess up is already in your face.
If is a casino game, the programming of the game is already against you as you can't even bet any of that.

All you have to do, is to become more loss-oriented to stay in control. I do this all the time.

I think all gamblers have the same hope in gambling, of course that is winning. Regardless of how well they take responsibility for gambling, it is impossible to say they do not expect anything from gambling. Simply put, gambling is a game played for fun, the reward is money if they win, if they lose then they have to accept losing money.

Gamblers are still called gamblers even if they are able to gamble responsibly. Good financial management can prevent them from experiencing bad financial problems due to gambling, otherwise, they will lose everything if they are not able to control their gambling.

If gamblers are afraid of losing their money then they should not gamble because losing money in gambling is a sure thing considering that we must be aware that the ratio of losing in gambling will be much greater than the winnings we will receive later. So by seeing this as a risk we must realize that in the end gambling will not be suitable to do if those who want to play are not ready to lose.

Not that I am normalizing losing but we can't be naive as if we can play without losing because we certainly know that we will never be able to beat the site and the bookie in the end.
The simple thing in this case is that if we are already involved in gambling then we must also be ready to lose, there is no need to feel pessimistic to admit that we always lose because indeed in this case the nature of gambling will remain the same as that.

Securing a loss oriented mindset before gambling is the best thing that can ever happen to a gambler. In cases like this, it's possible for the gambler to also have a wining target which he may likely work towards achieving it, but when your mind is fixed on the fact that the possibility of losing is higher, it tends to shapen your discipline so you don't gamble above your risk tolerance. It sounds really sweet having such experience but in real life application this experience is evenly difficult to achieve as the mind is always filled with greed, being entitled to more profits whereas gamble isn't a fair game. I can't deny the fact that I myself is guilty of some greedy decisions in gamble but I try as much as possible to avoid  becoming addicted.

I believe it also eliminates all kind of delusion that usally gamblers get. For example, if from the start you know the game is random and losing is a part of it then you wouldn’t even think of accusing the casino of rigging the game or anything. Which is usually the case for a lot of gamblers. When they do not win, they feel like they are being cheated on.

First know that gamblers exist in different kinds, some will tell you that they are gambling for the purpose of making fun while some will see it as an avenue for them to earn as they are gambling, just as we all know how we individually have preference to doing things, we should also consider that same exist among gamblers, this have to be determined by each gamblers mindset for being a gambler, except they have a change in mind by giving a different approach.

Why are you guys preaching fear in gambling? Must we go through that route so that all gamblers are cowards? Heck no! If you want to be afraid of gambling, you are free, but do not preach it into the minds of every gambler, gambling is never a force if you don't have the large mind for it. I for one gamble with the "amount I can afford to lose," so why the fear? And the insant I designate the money for gambling, I've written my mind off it as if it is not my money. Is that not the attitude you guys paints as recklessness? C'mon, gambling is never for the weak.

Not everyone has the same opinion on gambling it depends a lot on the mindset of the person but I think a real gambler always shows responsibility. They never bet beyond their financial capacity gambling is a means of entertainment for them not the main source of income. This mentality protects them from financial losses when a person is obsessed with winning he starts ignoring the possibility of losing. The desire to win constantly encourages him to take more risks and at some point he becomes a victim of addiction.

A real gambler is someone who has lost all their money, and their payday is still far away, and who is playing with borrowed money. :)

Okay, let's put the jokes aside.

A real gambler is a player who plays gambling games (standard definition). Regardless of what game they are focused on (losing or winning).

Also, no matter what game these gamblers are focused on (losing or winning), this will not affect the outcome of the game. Only luck (RTP) will always affect the outcome of the game.

It would not be wrong to call those who can accept losses or take losses easily as true gamblers. Gambling involves winning and losing, which is why a gambler must get out of the mindset of winning. Those who have a good gambling knowledge must not only win but also have a good idea of ​​how to survive in gambling. If a gambler cannot accept defeat, then that gambler will never have a good idea about gambling. They will rather lose everything after a few bets. There are many gamblers who think that they will gamble to win, their idea is completely wrong. They cannot be real gamblers. To win in gambling, a gambler should first prepare themselves for losing. In this way, even if they lose, there will be no problem, but those who gamble to win and lose will definitely be in trouble.

A real gambler understands the significance of certain risks,accept and trust their instincts while they They understand the game and they manage with their availability of resources.Its in their nature to stay calm during pressures,learn from their mistakes and keep playing decisively smart.

I  consider them the actual real gamblers, them becoming loss oriented gets them to attach less emotions to their bets which reduce their chances of addiction and also help them gamble better.  Others who are only win oriented gets disappointed too often and they gets them emotional and attached because ordinarily they wouldn't have that emotions and attachments if they have it in mind that thera possible loss ahead so for me I see it that they are the actual gamblers with essences.

This kind of gamblers event practice responsible gambling much more than other gamblers does, they have a very open mind approach to it and so they accept their fate at even point and move just as it's supposed and when they win they don't get too excited.

I am happy to read through the replies in this thread, it's clear that some gamblers have reshape their minds about gambling, I thought there are only few of us who understands that zero expectation from gambling is what makes you a better gambler.

You've automatically erase every desperate attempt that a delusional gamblers can have in mind, no target means no stupid desires from gambling, it's just you and your fun having mindset, whatever happens is something you've prepared for already.

No one can change the impact of gambling, houses will always be a step ahead of you, gambling is totally all about luck, the faster we all accept this facts the bettter our gambling activities will be.

This sounds more like a description of some professional player who is able to act like a super machine. It seems to me that in reality no one is able to act prudently, without unnecessary emotions when losing and so on. Anyone who can at least analyze matches and, most importantly, clearly understands what he is doing, why and for what purpose can be a player.

Hahaha a joke that is enough to make me laugh LOL, But actually there are gamblers who do such ridiculous acts and I saw the news on some social media, it is very sad to know someone who did such a stupid act.

About the focus of professional gamblers they do not always establish every game always wins, but calculate how many percentage wins are obtained as well as the losses that occur.
They have a strategy to master how the system plays, but yes in the end it will depend on luck if it's a slot game.

But sports betting has really become their gambling venue to bet bigger, according to the analysis data they get for the chosen team.

Ready to lose means that the money prepared to play is what he can afford to lose, so he will not chase his losses if he loses and even ready to stop if he has won no matter how much the result is, and whatever is on the gambler's mind when he gambles, he is called a gambler because he uses real money, so he can be said to be a real gambler.

Gambling is actually a lot more than that, and it is not just a matter of the mind, but also depends a lot on the mindset, confidence, and situation. While you are right in saying that a "real gambler" will never bet beyond his financial capacity, in reality many people break this boundary. Gambling sometimes starts very cautiously, but once the hunger for profit or the urge to win becomes strong, it becomes almost impossible for a person to lose self-control. The ups an d downs that occur in the gambling mentality often change from a hobby to an addiction, and there, financial limits or responsibilities cannot have much of an impact. For a large section of society, gambling is not just entertainment, but a dark side of life, which can cause them problems throughout their lives. So no matter how responsible a person is in the beginning, he has to be careful so that his 'entertainment' does not turn into a destructive path in life at some point.

Yes, for me they are still gambler if not then what should we call them?
They play the game, take the risk just like other gamblers do, the only difference is that they are aware of the risk or consider losing their money unlike those who are blinded by greed who only consider winning.
They are the people who doesn't expect much from gambling.

I agree with you on this, a true gambler is considered to have a lot of experiences in gambling, perhaps you can call recovered addicts. These type of gamblers have tasted the consequences of gambling addiction and they have decided to be more disciplined with their gambling activities. It's funny that a lot of people think that those who stake low are scared of losing. Not everyone is scared, true gamblers always apply risk management cause they know what might happen if they don't.

People who do not care about looses, who are ready to play games and loose and will go any lent just to gamble with your last money and doesn’t care about there expenses. But are only interested in gambling, they have no control on there self when they are in betting casinos, it’s really not experimental but just a habit I think it’s a bad habit to be ready to loose money because of gambling.

In my perception those that are already aware of lossing part of gambling as well as willing to lose are even the real gambler reason being whenever there is winning the excitement will be massive as a surprise compared to those who never accept the losing side of gambling wholeheartedly although it can be very hard for a beginner in gambling to completely accept Lossing part of gambling without much of the experience that is to say being and accepting the losing side of gambling will be more found among gamblers that has stay long in the system than those who are just new. Being aware of the risk side of gambling is different from accepting it, accepting it will take more time.

I don't know if they are actually gamblers that do this out there because it would take a high level of focus and determination to achieve this because humans aren't actually wired that way for them to actually train the mind to accept the fact that losing is the bigger picture when it comes to gambling is certainly a bigger step taking in gambling that's ofcourse if the gambler actually discipline himself to be so.

Well I don't understand what you really meant by being a true gambler cause there's no such thing as fake gambler but being aware of the risks involves doesn't mean you should be willing to lose at every point in time cause you're doing it for gambling sake or just for fun, no one is happy having encountering so much losses so I feel it's what they can afford to lose that's why they don't have any form of regret even if they lose, so a true gambling is one that knows what he wants and is responsible with his habits.

My definition of a true gambler is someone who is always down to be the other side of a bet.  Do you think that guy is going to cross the street?  Will it rain tomorrow?  How many people will walk out of that door in the next 5 minutes?  A true gambler hears those questions, immediately tries to determine odds, and proposes a bet.  Those guys you see online clicking buttons all day pretending to gamble with their own money aren't gamblers, they're influencers.  Learn to know the difference.

I never consider myself a real gambler I always consider myself a normal gambler. I never set a maximum budget for gambling I always set a very modest amount of money for gambling so that if I lose I don't have any problems In short I gamble according to my ability to lose. However, those who are very aware of the risk of losing in gambling and are willing to lose before they start gambling because of that awareness, we can certainly consider them real gamblers because they have enough gambling strategies. Another thing is that real gamblers don't always consider themselves very experienced. They always consider themselves ordinary gamblers and don't think of gambling as a way to make money.

I'd say that they are still gamblers even though they are loss-oriented gamblers. Gambling is all about willing to risk their money for a chance to earn more or whatever reason they are gambling like for fun, experiment and more. I don't think there's such s thing called not real gamblers because once you are willing to risk something you have then you are considered as gamblers and even in real life we are also gambler which we want to achieve something with risking something in return.

Well you are right and I clearly understand what you mean, and of course a true  gambler should be able to know when to stop and when they should exit the site. You know a true gambler is someone who can control themselves while gambling and knowing when their bankroll has reach the minimal limits or without them being so desperate of making a winning, a true gambler is that person who is willing to accept any lost they incurs without them having to over worried themselves for having missed such amount.

I doubt that there is anyone who doesn't know that in gambling, the chances of winning are less than losing. Unless he is gambling on sports with the lowest odds available, but even then, he can lose. The risk is always there, and that's the reason that we say "gamble what you can afford to lose". IMO, if you bet, you are a gambler, and the only "experiment" is how often you are lucky.

A gambler is a gambler no matter how they put it. I'm very sure that there is no a person on the phase of casino that put money to lose, whether it's for the fun or for the money, the main aim is to make sure you have something in return but along the line, not everyone be that lucky to get the win, to balance the casino profits and loss, some people have to loss and when thag happen, some will quit instantly while some continue but that doesn't make them not a gambling person.

I believe that some gamblers, if the have a way to be in control of gambling and makes money, they will be in win oriented to win every games they play buy by default, not everyone will win, some people has to be sacrifice this is why I don't like my outcome be based on what the casino think I deserve. I prefer to bet on something I can predict an outcome, that's then only I think it's fair and every gambler should be doing.

A true gambler is someone who is ready to take risk at all cost , who knows when to start and end a game,a multifaceted. A true Gamblers are  impulsive, optimistic, competitive, and sometimes use gambling as a form of escape., for fun and entertainment, don't chase losses, follow rules and regulations, always obeys instructions and don't gamble anyhow.

That’s why most the number of people’s lose in gambling is very high. Because some take as place where they can come and begin winning when ever they bet, and gambling is not like that is all about winning or lose even those that taking some percentage from their salary and use to gamble i don’t think that is a good ideal, because as he begin take that percentage once a gambling becomes addiction to his blood it won’t take 10 percent anymore the amount is carry will more that is using before even though he/she are always lose in gambling.

I like your idea of defining a gambler in terms of rating who should be called a real gambler and a fake one. Anyone who places a bet is a gambler, even if their mind is prepared to lose whatever money that they stake; they are not much different from someone who stakes and is not fully prepared to lose the money. The only difference is one of the gamblers is a risk taker and is prepared for whatever the outcome of the game will be, while the other is not.

Dude, for me a "real gambler" is not necessarily someone who plays to win at all costs or who is obsessed with the idea of ​​winning, but rather someone who deeply understands the risks involved and still decides to participate, but with a balanced mindset that includes being aware that the odds are usually against you and that losing is part of the game.

And what you said about people who are already prepared to lose before they even start makes me think of something important: maybe these people are even more aware and mature as gamblers than those who play only thinking about winning because they understand that the real value of gambling is in the experience, the entertainment and the emotion of the moment, and not necessarily in the financial return.

I just think that there is a big difference between a gambler and someone who is simply doing an experiment to test some strategy or to find out how the system works, without really getting emotionally involved or seeing gambling as part of their leisure routine, maybe they are not living the essence of what it means to be a "real gambler". A true gambler, in my opinion, embraces both victories and defeats as part of the journey, without trying to rationalize each move too much.

And just to finish with what you said about "loss-oriented" to maintain control... I think this is a smart and responsible strategy because those who enter into betting already accepting the possibility of losing are less likely to make emotional mistakes, such as trying to recover lost money impulsively and in the end this will even help prolong the fun, because it prevents the person from spending more than they can afford to lose.

Even if somebody has only gamble ones they will be called a gambler because gambling is not like something somebody will have to be popularly known from that before they can be addressed as one, on the contrary gambling is like sand on the floor that there is no how you will touch it that you will not see some on the fingers so that's how gambling is, sometimes you can even be called one just by talking about it. However in as much as there might not be people who are not real in gambling but those who only procrastinate to gamble when they have made a fortune can be ues as those unreal people.

Why not?
In my opinion, those who gamble responsibly are the real gamblers. On the other hand, those who gamble with the desire to win all the time become irresponsible gamblers and due to lack of control over themselves, they gamble to an amount that they cannot afford to lose. And the end result of which is addiction.

So I think the people you mentioned here, who accept that they will face losses most of the time and will win or make profits very rarely, are basically real gamblers. Because the actual winning rate in gambling is below one percent, which indicates that most people will be able to win by gambling very rarely.  ::)

Realizing the consequences of the risk of losing money that will be wagered in gambling is one of the characteristics of the person as a true gambler. Victory is not the main goal they seek but rather makes gambling a form of entertainment to fill their free time and not dependency must be able to visit gambling every day.

There's no such thing about experiment at the time that you do deal up with something specially with gambling because once you do make out some test then it will be that incurring out that loses.
The key on here is that you can call someone a gambler is into the time that they can be able to stop if they do have depleted out their gambling capital on which this is the time we can be able to say that they are that having that good control in regarding about their gambling urge and with emotional aspects as well. The only thing that differs is that each person do have that different risks tolerance and on how they do act into it. There are those who are good when it comes to control and there are ones who do easily get dragged with their addiction and ended up on having that excessive dealing and cant be able to handle themselves accordingly or whats the viable action that needs up to do so. So it will be that up to you on how you do handle up things accordingly.

A true gambler from my own end must have most of the qualities i will be mentioning below here and we all can see to some of them being part of what a genuine gambler should possess.

1. Have the ability of a responsible gambling
2. Developed emotional control over the way they gamble
3. Have effective time and money management in gambling
4. Avoid gambling addiction and irresponsible gambling ethics
5. Have passion for gambling irrespective of wining or loosing.

All players that play gambling games are considered as real gamblers regardless on what’s their belief on how they will play. The real definition of gambler is taking risk on gambling games so if they thinking that they will lose already before they start playing is on them only and doesn’t remove the fact that they are still taking risk.

What experiment is this? I don’t think any reason for doing an experiment like this.

To become a real gambler, you don't have to do much, but you should have some common characteristics of a gambler. First of all, as a gambler, you must have enough patience and the ability to make good decisions. If you have these things in the initial stage, you can start gambling with some ideas about gambling, but the whole process of gambling is to determine your gambling amount, that is, how much money you will spend on gambling every day. By doing this, there will be no possibility of you losing extra money, and you will also try to be a responsible person. Because as long as you are a responsible person, you will think about your family and your money, which will not cause you additional financial losses. Hopefully, those who have these things will definitely be able to become real gamblers at some point.

Yeap you also mentioned an important point here that to be a real and responsible gambler every person should have notice that how much they were spending on gambling and yes if they were crossing their affordable zone then they must take break from the gambling for that time.
And as well I want to also add one more point here to be the real and responsible gambler which is the gambler should also set a limit on their winning also. If the gambler don't do this he might be most of the time face only losses because some times even we win some wager we make another and another wager for making more multiply and at the end of the day we saw that we lose all of our fund. so gambler should give attention to both.

Reading the replies on these threads makes me wonder...  Are there fake gamblers?

As far as I know, there are addicted gamblers, bad gamblers, lucky gamblers, unlucky gamblers, responsible gamblers, and so on.  So my question is, how do we determine a fake gambler? As far as I know, we can determine addicted gamblers, bad gamblers, lucky and unlucky gamblers, and responsible gamblers.  What are the characteristics of a fake gambler?  Does getting addicted to gambling make the person a fake gambler? 

I believe it is subjective but most of us will agree that the ones we can be considered true gamblers are those who gamble responsibly. I think this is more likely a philosophical concept but, thinking about the technicalities, those who engage in gambling are called gamblers and surely there is no fake one in them.

I can say that those who think about risk first and then are ready to accept it are true gamblers, because one of the criteria for a responsible gambler is to accept risk well. Besides that, there is another thing that is no less important before deciding to gamble is the allocation of gambling funds, which will have an impact on the flow of the game and psychology when placing bets.

Honestly, it's nice to see a gambler who understands and can control himself in gambling, not just following the passions that trigger destruction.

Normally I would agree with this but giving it a second thought, if we are talking about a true gambler it's one who has seen the in and outs of gambling or should I say someone who is experienced. This type of gambler wouldn't want to go all in because he knows the dangers that comes with it.

Yes, and that is the normal perception that we should always see, we should not focus on the fact that we should always win, of course we as normal people always seek to win, losing is a normal action of the game that we should accept and we should not insist so much because if we seek to win then we will lose more money, but it is a connection that few know, winning in a casino should be taken advantage of, hence my Advice that if we win in a casino we should withdraw that money and enjoy it.

I always welcome this kind of advice. Because our human mind is always changing, for example, suppose you have made a multiple of 500 dollars today and you leave it on the casino platform for a long time without withdrawing it and one day you will see that you have wasted that 500 dollars only on gambling.
It has happened to me many times that I have won a good amount and left it on the platform without withdrawing it, and later, through occasional gambling and losses, I have wasted those funds on gambling. So I think it's better to enjoy at least a little than nothing.

Everyone might have a different perspective as to the definition of a true gambler but just like you stated responsibility is very important, it's not wrong to say that true gambler is a responsible gambler. This comes from a place of experience, if you haven't really felt the negative effects of gambling then you haven't started, this doesn't mean you must be chronically addicted, but some experiences would shape you into a more responsible gambler but not everyone changes for good, some people end up becoming worse.

You’re absolutely correct, acing this consciousness or coming to this realization would really help the gambler in question to make more informed decisions when gambling. The reason why most gamblers gamble beyond their means is because they have way too much expectation from the bets they make, either due to the experience of others or what they see around the gambling industry. They also take up that mindset and we all know how that often ends.

For me, a real player is one who enters the game completely, you know? He understands the risks, but he is still willing to feel everything that comes with winning, losing, making mistakes, learning. Now, those who play just to not lose, trying to control everything all the time... are they really playing? Or just trying to protect yourself? In the end, is this still a game? I have my doubts...

A true gambler does not care about reward, they often possess skills, strategies and knowledge for specific games like spotting and poker, and they make a living out of gambling .
A true gambler plays the game no matter the how high the risk involved might be and what their focus would be either loss or win, he cares for safety or even put his life along the line when gambling, which makes him outstanding he always loves to and plays gambling games and don't chase losses, obeys the rules and regulations of the game and knows how to manage his bankrolls and time, have self-control and confidence, and stays out of trouble, he knows when to start and end the game.

True gambler: Never give up without winning, at least that's what I was described as when I found the meaning of a true gambler. But in theory, true gamblers are those who gamble responsibly and they understand the risks of any consequences of gambling. They know how to manage risk, set budget limit, are not greedy and know when to exit or stop, they do it with control so that their mindset on gambling remains rational.

But whatever the term, I think many of us are not real gamblers based on that theory. The average is a casual gambler who tends to lose control of gambling, sometimes also angry because he lost all the money. Being a responsible gambler is a must, it will make you a real gambler, not a gambler who tends to be a problem gambler.

Going by that definition, then I think there would be an important percentage of people who gamble and risk their money but would not be true gamblers in your eyes.
Let us face it, they are gamblers, but they are rather irresponsible gamblers which do not have the consequences of their actions in mind when they start their session, and have little coping mechanisms when they face reality at the end of it.
Is quite a rigid definition you have on what a true gambler is, in my opinion, and it does not even take in consideration the size of their wager and the frequency they gamble.

Well I think a true gambler is when you made up your mind to withstand any outcome that might comes out along the line, without having any thought. Because is already obvious that gambling involves losses and winnings, so is quite sating that each of them can actually happens at any given time. So as a true gambler you would always accept any outcome without panicking because gambling is more of losing than winning.

Most of the time, they only realize the consequences once it happens to them already. It is inevitable that a gambler experiences one loss that deeply affects them and they get to evaluate how much they should actually be risking. For some, it might not happen as soon as for others. Because maybe they get some winning streak first before they eventually get humbled.

Using risk management doesn't make anyone a true gambler, besides I don't believe in any word called true gambler. The fact that you are a gambler makes you a gambler and nothing much we are all thesame titled gamblers. From my perspective a true gambler is someone who gambles with real money rather than playing demo games or gambling in their minds without putting it to realistic use. Talking about risk management it's important we all employ risk management so we don't end up spending more than we ought to especially since gamble can play it's tricks with our emotions. Learning to control one's emotion is very important that us, as gamble we should stay disciplined, and set good rule and standards for ourselves.

Suppose a real gambler will budget a small part of his monthly income, especially only 1-2% of his monthly income, for gambling. And when he runs out of this budget, he will never refill it, only refill it again at the end of the month, in which case he will not participate in gambling when his budget runs out.

But an uncontrolled greedy gambler will spend almost 15 to 30% of his monthly income on gambling. When the budget is exhausted, he will participate in gambling by taking out loans or borrowing money at high interest rates. In this case, instead of controlling himself, when the budget is exhausted, he will participate in gambling by managing his money in any way.

In my opinion, in both cases those people would be gamblers. Though one under control of their emotions and the other one out of control of their emotions and bankroll. Just because the second one does not know how to manage his finances does not make him less of a gambler when compared to the first one.
Obviously, the situation with the first gambler is rather controlled and desirable when comes to long term stability and not turning one's life into a mess because of addiction.

The classification of a true gambler should have nothing to do with the size of one's pocket or ones accumulated wager, in my opinion, how often ones gambles is more relevant than the amount of money being put at stake within each session.

There's a lot of sense in this, some gamblers feel like losing streaks is a phase so when they lose it doesn't bother them much, these category of gamblers can keep gambling and losing more than 10 times hoping that they are going to get back everything that they've lost..what they don't put into consideration is that It's possible to keep gambling and losing without having not even one winning streak.. gambling is all about luck and timing, if you continue being on the wrong time you'd keep losing, that's why the best thing to do is to practice risk management and learn to be in control

I agree that the real gambler won't spend too much money in gambling. Spending 1%-2% of the monthly income is enough, there is no need to have higher amount of money. We mostly gamble for fun, it isn't a proper place for earning money. So when the gambling budget has been over, it is time to stop the gambling games immediately.

Well, spending more than 15% is too much. Sure, we can call they are uncontrolled gamblers if they spend 15% - 30% of monthly income for playing gambling games only. And when they decide to take a loan or borrow money, it is very careless way in gambling. This possibly leads to the problem in the future because we probably can't recover losses. Instead of earning higher amount of money, we only waste more money.

A true gambler will participate in gambling even though he knows the risks of gambling and if he loses, he will not blame anyone for his defeat, not even his own luck. He makes himself so self-centered that if he loses at gambling, instead of getting upset, he starts working on how to take the next step. But an incompetent, unscrupulous gambler, as soon as he loses at gambling, starts blaming someone else for his suggestion, and even blames his own luck as if he had lost everything in gambling.

I think that blaming someone is not a trait that characterizes you as a real gambler or not, it is just a character trait that shows how you are ready to react to a loss. Some people are more calm and balanced, some people are more emotional, everyone will react in their own way, but in both cases, if they continue to play, they are already gamblers.

Gamblers should practice being self-centered and stop blaming others when they lose. I think new gamblers try to blame others when they lose while gambling. I consider those gamblers to be weak-minded because they cannot be confident in themselves. New gamblers have to put themselves odd situation. They take advice of others when they are beginners and after losing they mislead the advisor to cover up their mistakes. My advice to those beginner gamblers is that they should gamble with confidence in themselves and experience themselves at any stage win or lose.

A true gambler is someone that is all out when it comes to staking or gambling. He is ready to bet all his fortunes not minding the loss that comes with betting. most of them their family is sleeping on empty stomach, children are driven out of schools but gambling is always constant come rain come sun.

And at the end of the day, you will discover depression and so much anxiety in there lives.

A gambler who is gambling and losing money is trying to manage his losses but has failed. So, can we say that he is a real gambler? No, we can't say that he is a real gambler because he is only fulfilling the casino's accounts. A real gambler, in my opinion, is someone who wins and chases wins. The aim of a gambler is to make profits and control his emotions. When he does this, he falls into the category of a real gambler. However, if he loses and then chases his losses again, how can we count him as a real gambler? He should be counted among the fake gamblers or losers.

A true gambler will not take things with levity hands and will not also be that coward who will gambler irresponsibly, we have to know how to appear a true gambler, know what we stand to benefit from it and why we should gamble to make friends and have fun enjoying ourself than worrying about why we should gamble to earn, i know there could be several factors to put into consideration when determining for a genuine gambler, but we have to reason along on why everyone gambling must have a sense of humour to how they are expected to gamble.

Well I agree, why blame it to other people of you’re the one who controls the decision in gambling. I mean, being a gambler is subjective ‘cause we develop as time passes by but i think being accountable on your actions is one of the reasons why we’re gamblers in the first place, we knew the risks, we knew the possible outcome that we can lose a lot of money or win. Blaming to others is like not accepting the possibilities and though that it can be an easy money.

A true gambler is not someone who is just more loss oriented but someone who understands the principal of gambling, someone who is discipline about anything he or she does in gambling, someone who gamble with what he or she can afford to let go, someone who knows when to start and when to stop etc. loss is something that is inevitable and paramount as long as gambling is concerned and every gambler know about that, so anyone who is gambling without considering this factor is a misconception and as a gambler you have to be loss oriented and win oriented.

I can say, yes they are considered true gambler. Basically, gambling is dealing with risks whether you loss or you win. However, there are different kinds of gamblers and this example right here from OP is the worse one. If someone becomes loss-oriented in gambling, that simply means, they are in constant chase of losses. They might never stop until they dry up their bank rolls. And yes, they are somewhere in the level of gambling addiction, not some sort of experiment. They are the same gamblers who thinks that they might going to win the jackpot next time considering how huge their accumulated losses are.

Everyone is having own definition about things but here talk is about gambler with no one can go with always have wins and no one is having keep losing and still playing it's all about having targets and staying on them.
Usually peoples those play for fun they are having their budget and things for balancing their fun, but gamblers usually have days which make them good profit and after this staying into limits always important because if they fail to keep things with balance they have gone down quickly and then have no good way of coming back because bankruptcy always keep things on worst.
Even small number of gamblers those stay into their limits and have balance in budget because It's also not easy for them while they are also had other things in life as well.

A true gambler is a person that gambles responsibly and knows the consequences of the actions they are getting their self into. This is out mostly important because people gamble for the sake of money they want to make and are not emotionally prepared for the outcome and when the going doesn't go as they expected, they lose interest and don't like the concept of gambling and some even blame the casino all the time for taking their money, some even call it unfair platform.

I think that the first job of every gambler is identifying how they can take full responsibility in gambling, some people don't know this but if your gambling finance can only afford to lose a dollar, don't go above that budget but money has a way it consumes a lot of people that are involved in gambling and when they lose so much, they don't even know how to control their games any more. It's the reason why many people becomes irresponsible gambler in the long run.

If a gambler, after losing a bet, keeps betting again and again to chase his previous bet, then we cannot call him a real gambler. Because he couldn't control himself, he lost control and repeatedly took bets to recover past losses. A real gambler will not bet repeatedly, but all his bets will be according to plan. Therefore, a gambler will be real only when he can control his emotions, feelings, and the limits of greed in all areas.

However, he will bet at a specific time, that is, a real gambler will not bet the way an irregular gambler bets because he must bet according to a budget and time menu. Moreover, for him, the entertainment and satisfaction of gambling will be the priority in gambling.

I would agree with you on the fact that people sometimes just gamble because they are hoping for a big chance one day, but would disagree that guys who are loss oriented are chasing losses only, some of them are really not chasing losses but are just gambling with hope of making a fortune of it one day but with the knowledge that it might not work out as expected they just put in little to what they can afford to loss hence I consider them really gamblers from forum definition of gamers but in my real life experience those who are called real gamers are those who can ride anything just to gamble whether they win or not.

This is similar to a risk management strategy and it is primarily aimed at reducing losses rather than winning. And no matter what you call such a player, this approach to the game is more correct, since by limiting losses we get the chances to win.

It is the engagement of a person to gambling is that one can be said to be a true gambler.  Regardless they come with a strategy or not, they are called gamblers, and there is no fake gambler that wagers something to have a chance to win something.


I agree, wagering using in demo game is not gambling at all, and gambling in mind does not engage gambling thus the person is not in the act of gambling thus that person can't be called a gambler because he is not risking anything of value.


True, risk management is very important together with bankroll management, and I think people who gamble are always true gamblers but are classified as responsible gamblers and problem gamblers.


This kind of gambler who is ok with losses just to have a chance to hit big-time is using calculated risk.  Meaning they are ok with losses since it will not affect and lead to financial ruin.  We have seen many of this kind in the people who buy lottery tickets.

Those who can accept losses basically participate in gambling after knowing risk management. Yes, they can definitely be called real gamblers. A true gambler knows that in gambling, the losses are often greater than the gains. Only those who participate in gambling knowing this risk and can control themselves even when faced with an unexpected situation are true gamblers. However, the surprising thing is that the number of these real gamblers is very small and it is very difficult to find gamblers who can control their emotions.

You are right, people think true gamblers need to always stake high amounts of money but in my opinion they avoid unnecessary losses..A true gambler is not just disciplined but also experienced, they must have incurred a lot of losses in the past but somehow they managed to get back on their feet and gamble more carefully...not everyone learns self control until they experienced the negative effects of gambling.

The fact that they are more “conscious” gamblers, with a different profile from the traditional stereotype that many people have in mind (the guy who bets driven only by emotion, chasing the prize at any cost), does not invalidate him as a real gambler or not.

What happens with these “more rational” gamblers is that they gamble with a certain detachment from the outcome, especially winning. They enter the game already accepting the possibility (or even the probability) of losing. This may seem strange, but it is a way of maintaining self-control.

It is like the investor who enters the stock market already prepared for negative fluctuations but still invests — he does not stop being an investor because he is cautious.

When we panic about losing in gambling, it is because we are doing something wrong, that is, we are wasting money that should not be lost For this reason, before playing, it is better to establish how much money we can lose so as not to panic, because playing is enjoyable and it is not worth turning it into a nightmare.

In addition, real gamblers are the one who gambles often and also have in mind that they will neither win or lose, and they are the one when they lose in gambling they don't portions blame to anyone, and they will continue to gamble to win and recover whatever they have lost so far, another thing is that, a gambler doesn't like to lose everything  but at least gamble with fear and concentration, because if you gamble to win everything in the gambling, I think that the person will continously going depressed because it will be losing more often, if you want to gamble, just have it in mind that you will lose and losing in gambling should not make you quit,some people quit in the gambling because of what they have lost so far.

Yes, that is actually the main reason why most gamblers normally end up panicking at last. Because they always failed to stick to a sating amount that wouldn't affect them after losing. When a gambler approach gambling as an entertainment or having fun it will going to enjoy gambling without experiencing too much losses. However, were a gambler normally end up losing more money in gambling is when rely heavily on winning, it's very essential to understand that gambling depends on luck.

We're not just ready for the consequence when we gamble because we think that we're going to win and yet we lose, we panic.

And if playing by the terms, this is normal for most gamblers that we feel panic, we feel lost and all of the emotions are getting mixed because we do not like what happened and the results of our bets.

It is a issue of being a responsible and mature gambler, rather than someone who may be a newbie and have the wrong expectations on what their gambling experience is going to be, you know.
Anyone with a minimum of research and understanding of mathematics would realize why gambling is considered a reliable business and not a way for gambler to make money consistently.

If one feels panic, anxiety or regret which gambling, it is better for such kind of person just to log out and take a long break from gambling, as gambling main objective is to serve as a way to entertain ourselves, not to torture ourselves.

Blaming your luck isn't a bad thing, in my opinion, because it is basically your luck that makes you lose in gambling if you are into casino games. One should know that if they are unlucky, they are going to lose, so when they lose, they only have themselves and their luck to blame. Suppose a gambler loses and blames someone else for that. In that case, he's totally wrong, even if the other party had suggested gambling to them or brought them into gambling, because you should be mature enough to understand the consequences of something before you get involved.

You are right that a person who takes the blame on themselves when they lose and know the consequences before getting into gambling is a real gambler because if you are getting influenced by someone else, or maybe by watching some clip or video where a person wins a lot of money and then you decide to gamble, and then when you lose, you start blaming that person, or maybe someone who showed you the video, you are not a true gambler.

You ever sit at your screen and feel like you’re talking to something? Not a game, but something. A presence. Blaming is what keeps people sane. Luck gives shape to loss. But the casino lets you blame luck. It encourages it. Because if it’s luck, you’ll try again. You’ll “wait for your time”. And all the while, your data’s being mined, your tendencies tracked, your patterns looped into something that looks like free will but isn’t.

Keeping funds in a gambling account is never a good idea, not only because you can gamble it away sometimes, but also because online platforms are never too safe, and anything can happen at any time.

A breach could happen and your funds could get stolen, your account might get compromised, the casino might block or confiscate your funds for any reason they deem fit, and so many other issues could occur, so it's always better to withdraw the funds you have in an online account if you don't plan to use them very soon, keep them in a wallet so that only you can have access to them.

What you said is also right because the urge for gambling in a gambler can always rise, and once that happens, if you open your gambling account and see that you have funds in it, you might think of gambling and you might win something with it, but we know that even if we win some money, our greed won't let us stop so easily and then we might end up losing everything. Regretting later is of no use.

I agree with that. If a person cannot even carry the burden of losing their money, then it's best to just not gamble at all. Actually, taking a long break and coming back is just the same, and we will feel the same frustration, panic, anxiety, stress, or whatever negative mental impact of gambling. It will just keep on going unless the person decides to quit.

I believe gambling is not for the weak heart and mind. We must be brave enough to accept losses when they happen, and as much as possible, we can move on as fast as we can so that it won't linger and become a nightmare.

My concept of a real true gambler is formed only with those people who cannot live without the game and most likely spend too much money on it. Even those that they cannot afford, because such expenses affect the constant costs of life.
I'm sure many people have a different idea and only associate the concept of a gambler with people who only occasionally gamble, but I probably watch too many interviews with people who have suffered from an over-addiction to their games or to sports betting.

I agree with you, it is not wise to deposit your money  for the long term on any third-party platform, also including a gambling site. Because I have already said that human psychology changes with time, and so does their psychological state. For example, by seeing exciting updates or news about the market or any game, you can make the wrong decision with your stored funds.

What I have already said above is actually from my own experience. I once bet on a match based on the weak team and the strong team with all my deposited funds including my winnings due to overconfidence. But unfortunately the weak team won the match and I lost my entire fund. And that's why I said the above to give a caution to all gambler who store their fund on gambling platform even wining a good amount.

That's right, a true gambler thinks more of the possibility of losing first before he thinks of winning unlike those who constantly try to a avoid losses. Real gamblers are always ready to incur losses in order to learn from their mistakes, Gambling can be an endless succession of failures and it only takes true gamblers to continue trying to study more and just like what you said, they make adjustments to Their strategies and try to be become better gamblers.

Logging out is the best option but not everyone is able to do that.

When they're so emotional and having that kind of panic attack, it's hard to stop but as soon as we feel that.

We have to do something and have to beat it or else, it is us that we will be beaten not just with bets but also with our emotion.

a lot of people think that gamblers are risk takers but that shouldn’t mean that they are reckless and irresponsible it can still mean that even when we take risks we can still learn how to minimize said risks and play with responsibility

Yes, I understand it is something that can happen, but it should already be something different, at this point we as players what we should feel is pleasure when playing, no negative feelings should appear, panic is even more delicate, because if it is panic then it is the game that produces it and if so you should not do the activity, I used to feel fear but the fear was of losing money and then if I lost an amount, it would become a bigger problem because I still had to respond for what I had to buy.

Awareness of the fact that gambling is a risky activity along with the readiness to accept the risk with an open heart, in my opinion, can be said to be a true gambler, or it can also be said that true gamblers are those who are not affected by the risk of losing mentally and psychologically.

On the other hand, in my opinion, almost all gamblers (including beginners) already know that gambling is risky, but the problem is that there are always some of them who become losers who are emotional and cannot accept the situation when the results are really lost.

The bigger question remains that, do we even have a true gambler, since gambling most cases can end is bad result as for how the result outcome becomes, what Charles-Tim said is right what make you a true gambler is the ability to.keep gambling within an acceptable limit for you as a gambler not over stepping your budget and also gambling with a low budget so that the outcome of the games will not affect your total well being.


But not many gambler will listen to this and follow this simple principle that separate them from others.

If gamblers do not bet beyond their means, gamblers will not become too emotional when they lose. Those who tend to ignore control are addicted gamblers. Gamblers who can control their gambling activities are better. I might call them true gamblers.
Unlike those who have uncontrolled gambling activities and force themselves to continue betting every day by visiting betting centers or gambling through their devices. People in the hangout might call gamblers with such activities as true gamblers, but in reality they are not.

I am not in favor of betting too much money. I have been involved in gambling for a long time. If you bet too much money, you are more likely to lose it. If you lose a large amount of money, you feel bad. At the same time, it is also very difficult to recover it. I am involved in sports gambling. I bet small amounts but on many matches. So even if I lose money in a few matches, it is not very difficult for me to recover it. However, if I bet a large amount of money, it would be difficult for me to recover it. At the same time, I would fall into an economic crisis. However, those who have a lot of money may invest a large amount of money on their favorite team.

Well on a personal level, sometimes greed destroys everything, even the best plan, greed can greatly influence our plans, for that reason before playing we must be clear about our money, have the necessary discipline to fulfill our plan, these things must always be Considered when playing, so that the experience of playing is not a disaster or a nightmare, it is very hard to lose money that we should not lose, once it is lost there is not much that can be done to recover it , that is why it is imperative to take care of it.

Gambling becomes more stressful when we try to make it a do or die situation, people who joke around with this still don't know the dangers of getting chronically addicted to Gambling. The game is about taking risks and if you are not comfortable with it then you should avoid gambling. Accepting losses makes you mature and an experienced gambler. Chasing losses will only lead to more losses. True gamblers don't try to recover they just move on from their losses.

True gamblers and addicts are probably one and the same thing.

So who in my opinion is a true gambler? A person who keeps playing through all the ups and downs. A person who might hit a losing streak and come back. Someone who is not afraid to play high stakes when he can afford it.

One more thing. A true gambler doesn't ruin his life. So, I'm talking about a person who can lose and still come back, not a degenerate who will borrow and even steal just to be able to play. A true gambler uses his own money.

That is a great definition of a true gambler as I also think a true gambler never ruins his life. He knows when a huge amount of bad luck has hit him and he stays calm during such time and takes a break, he knows that he needs to calm a little bit and turn back after a while. This is a big difference from a true gambler to a degenerate one as the degenerate or badly addicted cannot stay a single day without gambling or complaining about how bad his day was, of course if you gamble every day even when you are hitting a bad run there is nothing to complain about, retire for some time and come back when you have a better and clear mind. Like they say in IT, more specifically in Linux, if you are not solving the problem despite trying very hard, just take a walk, calm your mind and 99.99% of the times when you come back you will solve the problem, the same mentality can be applied to gambling.

The chances of losing in gambling are very high, but those who do not want to accept this fact have a negative impact on gambling. Gambling never guarantees a gambler a win. True gamblers able to take risks in gambling and lose, gambling does not affect them. One of the reasons why most gamblers lose is that they consider gambling as an opportunity to earn money and when they lose, they continue to try to recover their losses. As their losses increase in a short period of time, they are affected by the negative impact of gambling. Where the possibility of loss is high.

We can't stop ourselves from having that feeling when gambling is going to our nerves. It's normal to panic and feel bad.

But the experienced gamblers have ways of conserving their energy to avoid doing that. So, a true gambler or not, we all feel the same and we need to be careful if these negativities causes us a problem.

In fact, it may not be possible for most gamblers to continue gambling within their means and limit themselves. The reason is that when they start losing or winning, their tendency to play more increases and leads to addiction. The process of playing within their means and forcing themselves is to limit or follow bankroll. You should find ways to gradually refine the range of being uncontrolled by following your own strategy.

I may disagree with your last paragraph a little. Limiting yourself to the expectations of group hangouts and entertainment is difficult in many instance and you may be stretching yourself beyond your budget but if it is not a regular occurrence then it is okay. And if it is a regular occurrence, then it can be assumed that bad times are waiting for you.

Those that stay loss-oriented don't always win big in gambling because they believe any game they play has big possibility of not playing so they avoid big odds and we all know that the big odds are what makes your win more higher and since they already they have this loss-oriention they only predict in a way they won't even stress there self and they usually use small amount of money to gamble because they have this mindset that they will lose,  there are some advantages that are there for those that stay loss-oriented which is they never get addicted those that has this loss-oriented mind set don't think of using gambling as a way to escape poverty because they already believe that they may lose such people can never get addicted to gambling, people who get addicted to gambling are those who wants to use gambling to escape poverty they believe they will win huge amount of money one day and that is how they keep playing and playing with that Same hope even if they are losing they don't care and from there they will start selling there property just to keep playing.

Surely it depends on what you consider to be real Gambler or not. From your own narration you are trying to say that real gamblers become more loss-oriented to stay in control instead of win oriented. What if I tell you that real gamblers are opposite of what you have said, meaning that they are win oriented to stay in but expirence more loses. Because I see that real gamblers often have the mindset of winning and that is what keep them goin, but they end up losing.

That's what we called self-control if you can manage to beat that pressure and able to quit your way when needed. Being responsible is your duty to protect your money together with the time that you'll going to consume, aside from that, you also preventing yourself getting deeply engage as you choose to stop before your emotions dominates you.

Actually, if someone cannot control themselves, there will be no benefit in logging out of the casino site because they will be able to log back into their account and gain access.

Therefore, before gambling, one should adopt a strategy in such a way that once the funds run out, there is no way to refill one's gambling wallet again. And that's why we should try to set a specific amount before gambling, so that when it's over, we can immediately take a break from the game. Setting a loss limit before gambling almost always alerts us that our funds are running low and we need to take a break. However, if there is an extreme level of addiction, it is not possible to control even this type of strategy without counseling from a professional.

Exactly,I think every gambler should observe a specific timetable as in special gambling hours that'll definitely keep them on track with their gambling activities.The best gamblers knows how to keep a fix their high time frame and properly adhere to their personal time management.

In gambling it doesn't matter how well a gambler manages his gambling, he cannot guarantee his victory or defeat, but as a real gambler, he has some qualities that are very helpful for his long gambling. A real gambler can take risks in gambling. Even if he loses, he does not feel disappointed. He knows that thinking about a losing bet is just a waste of time. Again, a real gambler can control himself in any situation in gambling. There are many gamblers who become more greedy after winning and at some point they lose all the money they won. Being a real gambler does not mean that their winnings will be more, but their gambling results are comparatively better than others.

Yes, those are the ones I call losers above in the sense that they gamble by betting money that they cannot afford to lose, but from another perspective, sometimes if for example the gambler from the start really does not like or is not ready for defeat, then usually no matter how small the amount of loss is, they will still feel hurt or even emotional, I have a friend who is like that when he gambles.
So the conclusion in my opinion is a fact that sometimes there are some gamblers who always feel annoyed or emotional even though they lose a small amount of money and usually they are gamblers who are too focused on winning and also by placing high hopes in it.

Quitting when need is one good chance for most gamblers to avoid unexpected losses.

I guess only a few is able to do that when they're in a tough situation where their emotions are high. So, able to control oneself is also a skill that others don't know how to do.

While the experienced ones can do that easy or sometimes they can't as well when their emotions are ticking too.

I think there is no single ideal definition of a player. A player is simply a person who plays, no matter for what reasons and what motivation makes him play. Therefore, it is strange to divide players into "real" and "not real". If you bet real money, then you are already real. But if by "real player" we mean some high quality of a player, then I would name the following obvious criteria:
1. You play for money to win, and not for dubious "pleasure".
2. You are a profitable player in the long term, as evidenced by the positive dynamics of your bankroll.

Probably a true gambler is a guy who is well versed in different online and physical casinos. He has definitely been to physical casinos and played different games there, because can a true gambler be someone who plays only in online casinos? Definitely not. He must know the sounds of the gaming room and the smell of tables and slot machines. I think that a true gambler does not necessarily need to be able to play all card games, it is enough that he has tried most of the different gambling games in practice and was aware of the approximate chances of winning.
Had his favorite types of gambling and periodically changed the gambling games that he played recently. Also, such a gambler must have self-control and money management.

Yeah right, as ever those experienced gamblers still being push by their emotions to make a bad decision making, instead of quitting they tend to force themselves thinking that there's a chance that in their next bet they will be able to make it, as we know, gambling always have that risk and it's all the same on both newcomers and experienced gamblers emotions can do things that may harmed their position to the point that they'll be losing a lot and still continue adding more money to keep playing.

I say that it is normal when you feel that fear, or rather that doubt that we always have of making a mistake and losing money, it is something very normal, that is why I always recommend limiting the money that you are going to spend in the casino, it is the only way to really Enjoy the experience with the casino, otherwise everything will be there adrift with the fear of losing a lot of money and that is not the idea, the idea is to lose only what we are willing to lose.

Very important reminder that we always tell but we can wonder how many actually doing it.

It is an unstoppable cycle.

We bet, we lose and then we think that we might able to win again if we bet again. That's why it is a cycle that's hard to break and many does that out of their thoughts.

Defeat doesn't stop them.

If someone returns to the casino sites, it is no problem as long as he can gamble with a better way. Sometimes, it needs time to take a break, so we can evaluate our way in gambling. And this way also can calm our emotion because we can think more realistically after we stop the gambling for a moment.

Indeed. We must plan to have fixed allocation for gambling budget daily, weekly, or monthly. If it reaches the limit, we must stop immediately and take a break for a moment. This is the way to avoid gambling excessively, we are trying to be discipline to have a healthy way in gambling. As long as we stick with our plan in gambling, I'm sure we can stay away from addiction.

Before we gets addiction, it is better to avoid it. One of the way is to limit the funds or making fixed allocation. If we are disciplined to do this, we are probably safe from addiction. Moreover if we limit the time to play gambling games in a day, it also will be very helpful to avoid addiction. IMO, we are only possible to get an extreme level of addiction if we no longer have limitation in gambling.

You really got my point.
If a person cannot control his self, then even if he not only logs out of that platform but also deletes his account on that platform, no one can stop him when he wants to gamble, in which case he can also change that gambling platform.

Nowadays, many casinos have introduced some additional features for responsible gambling and these are self-exclusion, cooling off period, and temporary account suspension. In the case of these, the thing I mentioned above is more noticeable when a gambler gets a temporary account suspension for irresponsible gambling or he uses self-exclusion himself, then when he loses control over himself and often changes the platform to gamble.

So I would give more priority to my own self-control in these matters, and at the same time, I suggest gambling with specific strategies to increase self-control.

Do everything as according to how you could endure or manage as we gamble, you can't afford to spend beyond your ability in gambling, there could be extension from how we pay as we may have an elongated period gambling than we planned for, which does not also means that we should go beyond our target or limit with bankroll, because a true gambler will never take the wrong step and ran into unexpected situations as he gambles.

Self exclusions and other similar features will be entirely be that totally useless if someone doesnt made up his mind on quitting or having a break on doing gambling. Just like been said that these are all useless if someone doesnt have that fixate its mind on completely stopping gambling on which it will be that totally having no use and thats why self control will be that much needed when you are that wanting to quit gambling or having a break then it will be that depending entirely with you as a gambler. Its good if your current platform or casino does have that kind of feature but just like on what said that it might be that comes handy when you are in need but not all the time because such decisions will be just that entirely depending on you. In regarding about into the question about on being as a true gambler then it will be that pertaining into those persons who do play gambling for fun and not for making money. They do have that good self control and discipline not only on how they do bet or gamble but also have that good bankroll management because if you do know on how to make use of those amounts for you to be able to have that enjoyment and leisure then this what considers out to be a true gambler and not someone whose that being that being impulsive and spending up tons of money and busting up every now and then that simply shows that how a bad gambler you are or simply you are included into those people who had messed up their lives because of too much gambling or simply being addicted. For me on which talking about as a real gambler is into those people who do make use of their money for real fun and entertainment and not for the sake of making money because this is that against with the real essence of gambling in the first place.

Any one who is not taking gambling seriously is the real Gambler because he or she has realized that gambling with the orientation of winning is one this that always leads to more loses so preparing your minds to lose money in the process of gambling is the real deal in gambling


Real gambling entails responsible gambling which has to do with gambling with caution and limit this is the best way to go while gambling

You have a point in what you said, because those who have developed greed, addiction that has made gambling their vice are the gamblers who have neglected themselves
as players in the gambling industry actually.

Because it is true that gambling is not here to ruin the lives of anyone who plays on their online casino platform, in other words, the gambling casino is open to anyone who wants
to have fun and have fun in their free time using the amount of money they want to use to play here at the gambling casino.

The point comes back to self-control not because after all for now in the end self-control will always be closely related when we talk about gambling that is done.

But in this condition in the end we must realize that even though we talk about self-control every day the fact is that not a few people are still always stuck with this condition when it comes to gambling. Indeed, it would be great if we could do this, it's just that this clearly cannot be done easily. Many gamblers give in and are more inclined to their ego and lust rather than thinking more clearly in self-control because it is not as easy as it is said to be.
People who even talk about control every day sometimes always miss this where there will definitely be some moments where we always get caught up in gambling that we don't realize and the proof is that until now there are still many people who always say they regret it after losing but don't realize when the process of losing it happens because they are too busy with their gambling ambitions.

We indeed have our own way of classifying each player if he is indeed a true gambler or not. But in my opinion, true gamblers are those who will always find time to gamble and have regular sessions of his games. He won't last a month without playing any of those gambling games. And with that for sure, he always has some allocated funds for his games.
And if you mean a true gambler by heart, whether he will bet via online or offline, he would always find a way how to satisfy himself in his gambling sessions. He doesn't need large sum of money to play but as long as he has extra funds, he will find a way to give in with his habit.

Absolutely right - any gambler who has understood that by depositing money into a casino he is actually losing it, deserves to be called an absolutely smart person (and the same is true in trading).
At the same time, this is how the image of a real gambler is formed, who knows that now he will play roulette, poker or any other game relaxed, because he will not constantly think about money. He will simply relax, and it will become just a sum on his screen.

There periods that you will have to take some risk because gambling does not have rules and when you  think about it is actually worth it most times and when and when you want to play by the book it is very okay but when you want to be a professional gambler the book will be avoided. And there games that you will not be sure about the only thing you can do in such situations is to use the budgeting style at least you should gamble what you can lose because when you are gambling you have to be strategic to be able to explore options that will make things very easy for you, and there is nothing like a perfect game so all you can do is to just do you. And overconfidence is what is killing a lot of people.

Your definition indeed identifies a true gambler's features, but anyone who doesn't have games which they follow up in every season can still fall under the category of the true gambler's personality, as long as they have allocated funds for gambling and they also make time to place bets and take responsibility for their actions, following up their games until the very end without blaming anyone for their failure.

Gambling is all about the rules and discipline. Knowing what you are doing and how much you can balance can support you. The more you stick to the rules, the more you will save your balance from loss. Remember, gambling is like sweet honey, once you taste it, you will want to eat more without the risk of affecting your health. Always fix your balance, and you will use that money wisely. As we know, gambling is not a pre planned activit, sometimes you will face sudden situations, so just take a calculated risk and seize the chance to earn, but don't do it repeatedly.

I can't tell in regards to this honestly but I think for one to be known as a true gambler he/she is being able to manage the risk's that comes with gambling, alongside knowing all that concerns gambling ranging from the specified amount meant for gambling and also having control over their habits. But if any of this mentioned isn't observed in the gamblers then such person is experimenting the gambling space and literally lose it all as time  goes on.

we may have a different definitions of a true gamblers and all maybe correct, secondly it does not matter that you most know a game to bet in any season, what matters most in the gambling is to be able to understand the basic things, and also have a considering factors of losing and also gaining in the gambling, a true gambler is someone who knows how to gambles without having a regret, and also someone who calculate or planned very before going to gambling, because if you don't calculate your self very well you well in the gambling you will end up of being distracted from gambling

Gambling is full of ups and downs and until you’re able to better understand where to situate yourself in a game of gambling, it is then you’ll enjoy the concept of gambling and not even a lose will make you feel like a failure but will make you practice proper risk management while gambling. The real deal in gambling is actually not forgetting the odds of not getting to win always and that you most wins will be based on luck and not on your knowledge even though it can play a vital role to shape your gambling journey. When you’re able to have a grasp of this, then taking caution, and gambling responsibly will be your optimum priority.

I would say that a true gambler is one who enters the game aware of the risks, yes, but without giving in to defeat prematurely. He plays to win, even knowing that he can lose. When the focus is only on controlling defeat, perhaps it ceases to be a game; it becomes calculation, not courage. The essence of a true gambler is to take risks, not just protect oneself.

That's also true that doing gambling or taking break from the gambling all depends on that person minds.
If he has truly decided that he will gamble responsibly, then he does not need to use all those features like the self-exclusion to the Temporary account suspension etc. Only by gambling with a specific plan can he gamble responsibly; otherwise, if he gambles for greed, then his chances of gambling responsibly are very low.In those cases, even if he uses all those features, it becomes difficult for him to gamble responsibly.

However, in some cases, those features can help, such as if you have invested your entire budget for gambling in a platform and use the temporary self-exclusion features there, then there is a possibility that you will be prevented from gambling due to your money being tied up.

Anyone who got that kind of thinking is capable to let their money go if they are using spare, while those who intend to earn and think that gambling is the quick way making money, those are the people who suffer a lot most of the time, it's easy to decide when you are ready and willing to let go the deposit amount that you bring inside your wallet.

Unlike with those who are not willing they tend to keep adding more once they lose their initials, they are thinking that they need to recover and lead them losing more.

Yes, that's correct. Without fear of losing then we will not be careful with our bets. That fear is what will probably help us make better decisions, and I think it's part of becoming a responsible gambler, too. Those who do not care about the money they will use to gamble are probably starting to become gambling addicts since they do not even fear losing the money.

Money budgeting is very important because that way we are not jumping the gun after a loss. I know because I have been there. Rushing the wins, not thinking straight because I am chasing the losses. Those are not good habits for a gambler and can lead to financial chaos.

We all have our different motivation to why we choose to gamble. I do believe that someone's else's definition of a true gambler is a matter of his own opinion based on their perspective of how or what a true gambler should look like or the characters he should bear. For instance, with how I gamble It makes me think am a regular gambler but from anothers' he might think me differently. So simply put, there's no generally acceptable characters the could be said to differentiate gamblers from real and none real.

Totally agree with this since true gamblers have this calculate each movement they do because they know each risk about the actions they have done. Also they have emotional control and can overcome any situation came to them since they have great experience to deal with those situation.

They are also strategist which they always think about what strategy or good approach to use depends possible statistics they encounter.

Also they usually enjoy gambling and sometimes they are up for excitement or maybe for profit.

You said it, money willing to lose and discipline, for me they are the two pillars to be successful and not only in the game but in any area of ​​life, I personally have always said something, if we are people who are always going to generalize a strategy for me this should be the base, start with ourselves and then worry about strategies, about understanding certain things about the game, but never losing this control discipline.

You're right. He can gamble again in other gambling sites. We have many gambling sites, it will be very easy to create an account in a gambling site. However, it isn't about the chance to return but how he can change his attitude. If he finally can have a better self-control, it is not a really problem to gamble again with a better approach/way.

Those features only can work properly if the gamblers are aware of the possible problems of having lack self-control. If the gamblers aren't aware or he don't care about it, the features can be useless. IMO, the main point is how the gamblers to have proper mentality in gambling. I think there should be a certain test for every new use to join the gambling site. It is intended to ensure the new user having good mentality to join the gambling site.

Yep. Discipline is always the key to be success in everything. Those gamblers who can be disciplined and always stick with the plans, they will be safe from the possible problems such as addiction, being stressed, and etc. But no doubt that it won't be easy to be disciplined because sometimes there should be tough challenges.

In my opinion, real gamblers are those people who can make decisions in any situation with a cool head and also gamble responsibly. In most gamblers' case, it happens that they get very excited about a little profit or a little loss and because of this temporary profit and loss, they get excited and start betting with more money, which results in them losing more money due to this excitement. Again, there is a category of gamblers who forget all their responsibilities just to gamble and gamble all their money and take more money to gamble and lose it. Later, these gamblers get into a lot of financial problems and their families also get into trouble because of them. That is why I mentioned at the beginning that being responsible is very important because responsible people never make mistakes.

If you look at it, everything points to money. If we play well and have our money under control, we will not have problems with addiction nor will we have problems Acquiring or paying some of our obligations, but when the casino becomes difficult or our Activity in the casino almost never gets out of control, money becomes scarce, and earning money is difficult , you have to work a lot, because thinking about getting it back in the casino is a very bad idea, so for me the Priority will always be to manage our money very well.

These are my tips to apply to a player (even an occasional one):

1: Establish before starting a game session, how much you are willing to lose <<< fundamental
2: Play each new session for the pleasure of doing it
3: NEVER try for any reason in the world to recover what you have lost
4: Think before making a play (never make hasty plays, time in this case is on your side)
5: If you can (based on the type of game you are playing) inform yourself before betting

These are very banal tips, but I assure you that they are not easy to apply, many let themselves be overwhelmed by the game.

Yeah, absolutely right and I agree with you, discipline is very paramount or important in gambling responsibly, a gambler without discipline will mostly end up as an addict and this will completely ruin his or her life...

Strategy in gambling is more of we knowing our limit capacity and putting ourselves in control, this helps us know how much we can afford to lose and make sure we are not risking anything more than that, gambling is fun and very enjoyable if and when we do it with the right mindset and apply all the necessary precautions that ensure we have ourselves under control.

Yes, all these tips that you have outlined are very necessary for a gambler to possess, a true gambler is one that can follow the tips and some other rules accordingly but like you said, it's not very easy for some people to apply it because they feel over excited or due to adrenaline rush, they just ignore their discipline and start going against their decisions. Maybe sometimes it's bound to happen but not always must a gambler lose self control.

A true gambler takes risk but there's a difference between someone that's a gambler and someone that's desperate.. a real gambler isn't moved by emotions, he is always calculative and careful..some people think that going all in makes them a better gambler, this is actually a way to just feed your addiction..like you said when they run out of money the casino moves forward with business not minding anyone's losses.

That's why I've always said that while we're Playing the best of all Strategies is to control the money we're going to spend, it doesn't matter if the Emotes go all out, as long as we have the money under control and the discipline to say no more, then Everything will turn out well, those who apply controlling emotes or controlling many things, well if they achieve it , it seems excellent to me, but for me, that's what worked for me.

Casino will not care about what happen to you, as long as they've got the profits it will continue the business. A gambler who can control both emotions and finances are the one who can survive and will enjoy this venue but those who are aiming for luck to bring them huge amount of profits those are mostly the victims of addiction as they wanted to keep that momentum then failed and lose eveything that they've got.

It is the hardest thing to achieve but believe me, it is possible , I was Able to achieve it and the best of all is that the same strategy can be applied to trading, trading sometimes requires a lot of control in what you operate, then when you fully master it, it is another level unlocked.

As I have repeatedly said self-control helps to lose less in gambling but at the same time limits the gambler in emotional terms. Risks are directly related to the emotions received during the gambling session and this each of us can check for themselves. Therefore, I believe that every gambler must decide for himself what is more important to him in gambling money or emotions. Personally, I try to stick to the middle, but sometimes I still go to all the trouble.

That's right, my bro, It's an honor that you say that, The experiences you've had with games are also worthy of learning , and it's great to see people like you Approve of them because I like it when someone of such high level and expertise says it and approves of it , That's the advantage of being on this forum.

Aside from that, real gamblers are those who can understand the situation and control themselves. They might chase winning, but are not desperate enough to take it. They remain calm despite losses and never have any regrets. Different from those who claim themselves as gamblers when they can't even accept losses or enjoy small wins.

I believe being a real gambler is a choice, but pretending to become a gambler is just like forcing ourselves into unfavorable conditions. They know how to keep themselves away from addiction.

I know it is a little bit out of topic, but I guess it is easier to talk and practice discipline as a gambler when one has to feed children and keep a relationship with another person. That is a complete life-changer if we compare the life of the stereotypical single gambler who does not need to take care of anyone and can use all his money to gamble if he desired without any further consequence to his personal finances.
When we get a reality check and realize our income will dictate whether other people we care about will be able to eat, get dressed and attend school, is when we have a wake up call on the importance of discipline, bankroll management and control over our gambling budget.
I am not saying it is the case for all gamblers, because bad and neglecting parents will continue to exist, unfortunately.

That's why knowing how to budget is where you lose the fear of losing and enter a phase of enjoyment, and there's nothing better than enjoying what you like to do, I love to play freely taking out all my emotions, it's the best, but to do it I have my strategy and discipline well defined, by having my risk management ready there are no problems, I am someone who plays without fear, there's nothing better than doing whatever and not being afraid of anything, in any area of ​​life.

Only those who participate in gambling by balancing their income and expenses can enjoy the joy of gambling. In this case, there is no fear of losing beyond their budget, especially if the weekly budget is $50, then there is no fear of losing more than $50. These gamblers can experience the real fun of gambling. Although I have not been able to participate in gambling on a budget so far, from what I have gained in previous experience, I can say one thing: if a gambler has a fear of losing, he can never be mentally fit to gamble. I myself am not fit for gambling.

Indeed, a true gambler doesn't give in to defeat but he accepts them and finds a way to readjust his methods instead of chasing instantly. A true gambler is always ready to take risks and open to whatever outcomes that they get from gambling unlike those that just gamble expecting that they will always make profit, these are the type of gamblers that ends up getting addicted to it because of their unrealistic expectations.

Better that way instead of stressing yourself each time you take part with your game, allocating enough balance both money and time then enjoy your stay, a gambler needs to weight his opportunities and his enjoyment, if you know how to control your emotion chances is better not to fall to any addiction but instead balancing your participation would be fit to your engagements and as a gambler that's how things should be a well-balance both finances and time.

The return advice is great. But unfortunately, this is the most common reason why gamblers return to the casino - they start losing even more. Due to psychology, it is very difficult for them to accept that they just had money on deposit, and a few minutes later it was almost zero, and they hope that the money can return from the casino, just as easily. Unfortunately, this often only works one way. And the best way is to accept the loss of money and stop.

Yes, that's correct. I can tell because I have been in that position where I am so stressed and don't know how to recover my losses. But the good part is that it became my learning point. I don't cross the line anymore, and as much as possible, I don't like spending all my budget on gambling in just one day or just one session. I play 100 rolls, and if I lose, I rest.
Sure, I will think about the losses, and ignoring this will be a difficult task. Pride and ego will fight back, and being patient to wait for the next day will be tough. Still, this is a better way to be a responsible gambler so that we won't feel that stress again. The higher the amount we lose, the bigger the frustrations and stress we will experience.

Without a doubt when we talk about Family support, of People who are always in the inner circle , yes, they will give their unconditional Support, but if we are a little more Daring and see things from a more direct point of view, we know that the Addiction is thanks to the person Himself and as the same person due to weakness could not contain this Addiction , he has to want to be cured, he must do it if he Wants to get out of it, sometimes we see that something is very Difficult, but I am sure that we are capable of getting out and resolving any adversity, with help or Not it has to be done.

My idea on this is different, a true gambler is a mature gambler that knows the risks involved in gambling. Going all in is not something a real gambler would do because it shows that he is irresponsible and not mentally mature enough to gamble. Being a true gambler doesn't mean that you should take risks that might end up putting you in a precarious situation. A true gambler is actually smart and experienced.

It is very true, few people talk about balance, time for me is not so much but knowing how to have the balance to distinguish between emotions and money, I have often emphasized that money is more important to me, money control is key to me, I control everything from that management, but for some players the time to play is very important, when I spend my money willing to lose I do not care how long it lasts, sometimes I take very little time to play, sometimes I extend it, the important thing for me is the enjoyment.