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May 09, 2025, 05:21:37 PM
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Awareness of the fact that gambling is a risky activity along with the readiness to accept the risk with an open heart, in my opinion, can be said to be a true gambler, or it can also be said that true gamblers are those who are not affected by the risk of losing mentally and psychologically.

On the other hand, in my opinion, almost all gamblers (including beginners) already know that gambling is risky, but the problem is that there are always some of them who become losers who are emotional and cannot accept the situation when the results are really lost.
If gamblers do not bet beyond their means, gamblers will not become too emotional when they lose. Those who tend to ignore control are addicted gamblers. Gamblers who can control their gambling activities are better. I might call them true gamblers.
Unlike those who have uncontrolled gambling activities and force themselves to continue betting every day by visiting betting centers or gambling through their devices. People in the hangout might call gamblers with such activities as true gamblers, but in reality they are not.

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May 09, 2025, 05:31:23 PM
Last edit: May 09, 2025, 06:25:23 PM by Swordsoffreedom
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people think true gamblers need to always stake high amounts of money but in my opinion they avoid unnecessary losses..A true gambler is not just disciplined but also experienced, they must have incurred a lot of losses in the past but somehow they managed to get back on their feet and gamble more carefully...not everyone learns self control until they experienced the negative effects of gambling.

I am not in favor of betting too much money. I have been involved in gambling for a long time. If you bet too much money, you are more likely to lose it. If you lose a large amount of money, you feel bad. At the same time, it is also very difficult to recover it. I am involved in sports gambling. I bet small amounts but on many matches. So even if I lose money in a few matches, it is not very difficult for me to recover it. However, if I bet a large amount of money, it would be difficult for me to recover it. At the same time, I would fall into an economic crisis. However, those who have a lot of money may invest a large amount of money on their favorite team.

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May 09, 2025, 05:53:38 PM
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our greed won't let us stop so easily and then we might end up losing everything. Regretting later is of no use.
Well on a personal level, sometimes greed destroys everything, even the best plan, greed can greatly influence our plans, for that reason before playing we must be clear about our money, have the necessary discipline to fulfill our plan, these things must always be Considered when playing, so that the experience of playing is not a disaster or a nightmare, it is very hard to lose money that we should not lose, once it is lost there is not much that can be done to recover it , that is why it is imperative to take care of it.

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May 09, 2025, 07:38:39 PM
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If they can accept the risk of gambling, they don't have to think anything except enjoy the games. We have many preferences about the real gamblers but I think the real gamblers are someone who can control themselves in gambling.

Besides that, if we can manage the risk, that will not give us problem because we know what we need to do with that. We just need to have fun in gambling, stop gambling while we think it is enough.

We don't chase the win or recover the lose as we know that is difficult. So that will be the true gambler.

Gambling becomes more stressful when we try to make it a do or die situation, people who joke around with this still don't know the dangers of getting chronically addicted to Gambling. The game is about taking risks and if you are not comfortable with it then you should avoid gambling. Accepting losses makes you mature and an experienced gambler. Chasing losses will only lead to more losses. True gamblers don't try to recover they just move on from their losses.

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May 09, 2025, 07:46:33 PM
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True gamblers and addicts are probably one and the same thing.

So who in my opinion is a true gambler? A person who keeps playing through all the ups and downs. A person who might hit a losing streak and come back. Someone who is not afraid to play high stakes when he can afford it.

One more thing. A true gambler doesn't ruin his life. So, I'm talking about a person who can lose and still come back, not a degenerate who will borrow and even steal just to be able to play. A true gambler uses his own money.

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May 09, 2025, 08:22:14 PM
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True gamblers and addicts are probably one and the same thing.

So who in my opinion is a true gambler? A person who keeps playing through all the ups and downs. A person who might hit a losing streak and come back. Someone who is not afraid to play high stakes when he can afford it.

One more thing. A true gambler doesn't ruin his life. So, I'm talking about a person who can lose and still come back, not a degenerate who will borrow and even steal just to be able to play. A true gambler uses his own money.

That is a great definition of a true gambler as I also think a true gambler never ruins his life. He knows when a huge amount of bad luck has hit him and he stays calm during such time and takes a break, he knows that he needs to calm a little bit and turn back after a while. This is a big difference from a true gambler to a degenerate one as the degenerate or badly addicted cannot stay a single day without gambling or complaining about how bad his day was, of course if you gamble every day even when you are hitting a bad run there is nothing to complain about, retire for some time and come back when you have a better and clear mind. Like they say in IT, more specifically in Linux, if you are not solving the problem despite trying very hard, just take a walk, calm your mind and 99.99% of the times when you come back you will solve the problem, the same mentality can be applied to gambling.

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May 09, 2025, 10:27:55 PM
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Awareness of the fact that gambling is a risky activity along with the readiness to accept the risk with an open heart, in my opinion, can be said to be a true gambler, or it can also be said that true gamblers are those who are not affected by the risk of losing mentally and psychologically.

On the other hand, in my opinion, almost all gamblers (including beginners) already know that gambling is risky, but the problem is that there are always some of them who become losers who are emotional and cannot accept the situation when the results are really lost.
If gamblers do not bet beyond their means, gamblers will not become too emotional when they lose. Those who tend to ignore control are addicted gamblers. Gamblers who can control their gambling activities are better. I might call them true gamblers.
The chances of losing in gambling are very high, but those who do not want to accept this fact have a negative impact on gambling. Gambling never guarantees a gambler a win. True gamblers able to take risks in gambling and lose, gambling does not affect them. One of the reasons why most gamblers lose is that they consider gambling as an opportunity to earn money and when they lose, they continue to try to recover their losses. As their losses increase in a short period of time, they are affected by the negative impact of gambling. Where the possibility of loss is high.











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And if playing by the terms, this is normal for most gamblers that we feel panic, we feel lost and all of the emotions are getting mixed because we do not like what happened and the results of our bets.
Yes, I understand it is something that can happen, but it should already be something different, at this point we as players what we should feel is pleasure when playing, no negative feelings should appear, panic is even more delicate, because if it is panic then it is the game that produces it and if so you should not do the activity, I used to feel fear but the fear was of losing money and then if I lost an amount, it would become a bigger problem because I still had to respond for what I had to buy.
We can't stop ourselves from having that feeling when gambling is going to our nerves. It's normal to panic and feel bad.

But the experienced gamblers have ways of conserving their energy to avoid doing that. So, a true gambler or not, we all feel the same and we need to be careful if these negativities causes us a problem.
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Awareness of the fact that gambling is a risky activity along with the readiness to accept the risk with an open heart, in my opinion, can be said to be a true gambler, or it can also be said that true gamblers are those who are not affected by the risk of losing mentally and psychologically.

On the other hand, in my opinion, almost all gamblers (including beginners) already know that gambling is risky, but the problem is that there are always some of them who become losers who are emotional and cannot accept the situation when the results are really lost.
If gamblers do not bet beyond their means, gamblers will not become too emotional when they lose. Those who tend to ignore control are addicted gamblers. Gamblers who can control their gambling activities are better. I might call them true gamblers.
Unlike those who have uncontrolled gambling activities and force themselves to continue betting every day by visiting betting centers or gambling through their devices. People in the hangout might call gamblers with such activities as true gamblers, but in reality they are not.
In fact, it may not be possible for most gamblers to continue gambling within their means and limit themselves. The reason is that when they start losing or winning, their tendency to play more increases and leads to addiction. The process of playing within their means and forcing themselves is to limit or follow bankroll. You should find ways to gradually refine the range of being uncontrolled by following your own strategy.

I may disagree with your last paragraph a little. Limiting yourself to the expectations of group hangouts and entertainment is difficult in many instance and you may be stretching yourself beyond your budget but if it is not a regular occurrence then it is okay. And if it is a regular occurrence, then it can be assumed that bad times are waiting for you.

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Those that stay loss-oriented don't always win big in gambling because they believe any game they play has big possibility of not playing so they avoid big odds and we all know that the big odds are what makes your win more higher and since they already they have this loss-oriention they only predict in a way they won't even stress there self and they usually use small amount of money to gamble because they have this mindset that they will lose,  there are some advantages that are there for those that stay loss-oriented which is they never get addicted those that has this loss-oriented mind set don't think of using gambling as a way to escape poverty because they already believe that they may lose such people can never get addicted to gambling, people who get addicted to gambling are those who wants to use gambling to escape poverty they believe they will win huge amount of money one day and that is how they keep playing and playing with that Same hope even if they are losing they don't care and from there they will start selling there property just to keep playing.

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We read a lot about gamblers who are very aware of the risks of losing,  and because of that awareness, they’re already willing to lose even before they start gambling. What happens is, they become more loss-oriented (to stay in control) instead of win-oriented.

So for you guys --  do we still consider them real gamblers?
Surely it depends on what you consider to be real Gambler or not. From your own narration you are trying to say that real gamblers become more loss-oriented to stay in control instead of win oriented. What if I tell you that real gamblers are opposite of what you have said, meaning that they are win oriented to stay in but expirence more loses. Because I see that real gamblers often have the mindset of winning and that is what keep them goin, but they end up losing.

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May 10, 2025, 06:47:09 AM
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And if playing by the terms, this is normal for most gamblers that we feel panic, we feel lost and all of the emotions are getting mixed because we do not like what happened and the results of our bets.

It is a issue of being a responsible and mature gambler, rather than someone who may be a newbie and have the wrong expectations on what their gambling experience is going to be, you know.
Anyone with a minimum of research and understanding of mathematics would realize why gambling is considered a reliable business and not a way for gambler to make money consistently.

If one feels panic, anxiety or regret which gambling, it is better for such kind of person just to log out and take a long break from gambling, as gambling main objective is to serve as a way to entertain ourselves, not to torture ourselves.
Logging out is the best option but not everyone is able to do that.

When they're so emotional and having that kind of panic attack, it's hard to stop but as soon as we feel that.

We have to do something and have to beat it or else, it is us that we will be beaten not just with bets but also with our emotion.

That's what we called self-control if you can manage to beat that pressure and able to quit your way when needed. Being responsible is your duty to protect your money together with the time that you'll going to consume, aside from that, you also preventing yourself getting deeply engage as you choose to stop before your emotions dominates you.

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Logging out is the best option but not everyone is able to do that.

When they're so emotional and having that kind of panic attack, it's hard to stop but as soon as we feel that.

We have to do something and have to beat it or else, it is us that we will be beaten not just with bets but also with our emotion.
Actually, if someone cannot control themselves, there will be no benefit in logging out of the casino site because they will be able to log back into their account and gain access.

Therefore, before gambling, one should adopt a strategy in such a way that once the funds run out, there is no way to refill one's gambling wallet again. And that's why we should try to set a specific amount before gambling, so that when it's over, we can immediately take a break from the game. Setting a loss limit before gambling almost always alerts us that our funds are running low and we need to take a break. However, if there is an extreme level of addiction, it is not possible to control even this type of strategy without counseling from a professional.

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We read a lot about gamblers who are very aware of the risks of losing,  and because of that awareness, they’re already willing to lose even before they start gambling. What happens is, they become more loss-oriented (to stay in control) instead of win-oriented.

So for you guys --  do we still consider them real gamblers?

A real gambler is possessed of being normal and treats gambling like a day-to-day activity. Whether they win or lose, they still look like nothing happened. Their behavior is different compared to non-professional gamblers. Their actions speak a lot.

I think they have a lot of control over themselves (emotions), making them look too easy despite losing. Of course, they were also struggling hard before, but their experience is a big factor that influences their behavior and makes it right. This will also happen to us as we grow old, as our minds become mature enough to handle these things.

Exactly,I think every gambler should observe a specific timetable as in special gambling hours that'll definitely keep them on track with their gambling activities.The best gamblers knows how to keep a fix their high time frame and properly adhere to their personal time management.

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May 10, 2025, 04:49:47 PM
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We read a lot about gamblers who are very aware of the risks of losing,  and because of that awareness, they’re already willing to lose even before they start gambling. What happens is, they become more loss-oriented (to stay in control) instead of win-oriented.

So for you guys --  do we still consider them real gamblers?
Surely it depends on what you consider to be real Gambler or not. From your own narration you are trying to say that real gamblers become more loss-oriented to stay in control instead of win oriented. What if I tell you that real gamblers are opposite of what you have said, meaning that they are win oriented to stay in but expirence more loses. Because I see that real gamblers often have the mindset of winning and that is what keep them goin, but they end up losing.

In gambling it doesn't matter how well a gambler manages his gambling, he cannot guarantee his victory or defeat, but as a real gambler, he has some qualities that are very helpful for his long gambling. A real gambler can take risks in gambling. Even if he loses, he does not feel disappointed. He knows that thinking about a losing bet is just a waste of time. Again, a real gambler can control himself in any situation in gambling. There are many gamblers who become more greedy after winning and at some point they lose all the money they won. Being a real gambler does not mean that their winnings will be more, but their gambling results are comparatively better than others.











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May 10, 2025, 09:27:50 PM
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Awareness of the fact that gambling is a risky activity along with the readiness to accept the risk with an open heart, in my opinion, can be said to be a true gambler, or it can also be said that true gamblers are those who are not affected by the risk of losing mentally and psychologically.

On the other hand, in my opinion, almost all gamblers (including beginners) already know that gambling is risky, but the problem is that there are always some of them who become losers who are emotional and cannot accept the situation when the results are really lost.
If gamblers do not bet beyond their means, gamblers will not become too emotional when they lose. Those who tend to ignore control are addicted gamblers. Gamblers who can control their gambling activities are better. I might call them true gamblers.
Unlike those who have uncontrolled gambling activities and force themselves to continue betting every day by visiting betting centers or gambling through their devices. People in the hangout might call gamblers with such activities as true gamblers, but in reality they are not.

Yes, those are the ones I call losers above in the sense that they gamble by betting money that they cannot afford to lose, but from another perspective, sometimes if for example the gambler from the start really does not like or is not ready for defeat, then usually no matter how small the amount of loss is, they will still feel hurt or even emotional, I have a friend who is like that when he gambles.
So the conclusion in my opinion is a fact that sometimes there are some gamblers who always feel annoyed or emotional even though they lose a small amount of money and usually they are gamblers who are too focused on winning and also by placing high hopes in it.

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Logging out is the best option but not everyone is able to do that.

When they're so emotional and having that kind of panic attack, it's hard to stop but as soon as we feel that.

We have to do something and have to beat it or else, it is us that we will be beaten not just with bets but also with our emotion.

That's what we called self-control if you can manage to beat that pressure and able to quit your way when needed. Being responsible is your duty to protect your money together with the time that you'll going to consume, aside from that, you also preventing yourself getting deeply engage as you choose to stop before your emotions dominates you.
Quitting when need is one good chance for most gamblers to avoid unexpected losses.

I guess only a few is able to do that when they're in a tough situation where their emotions are high. So, able to control oneself is also a skill that others don't know how to do.

While the experienced ones can do that easy or sometimes they can't as well when their emotions are ticking too.
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I think there is no single ideal definition of a player. A player is simply a person who plays, no matter for what reasons and what motivation makes him play. Therefore, it is strange to divide players into "real" and "not real". If you bet real money, then you are already real. But if by "real player" we mean some high quality of a player, then I would name the following obvious criteria:
1. You play for money to win, and not for dubious "pleasure".
2. You are a profitable player in the long term, as evidenced by the positive dynamics of your bankroll.

 
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Probably a true gambler is a guy who is well versed in different online and physical casinos. He has definitely been to physical casinos and played different games there, because can a true gambler be someone who plays only in online casinos? Definitely not. He must know the sounds of the gaming room and the smell of tables and slot machines. I think that a true gambler does not necessarily need to be able to play all card games, it is enough that he has tried most of the different gambling games in practice and was aware of the approximate chances of winning.
Had his favorite types of gambling and periodically changed the gambling games that he played recently. Also, such a gambler must have self-control and money management.

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Logging out is the best option but not everyone is able to do that.

When they're so emotional and having that kind of panic attack, it's hard to stop but as soon as we feel that.

We have to do something and have to beat it or else, it is us that we will be beaten not just with bets but also with our emotion.

That's what we called self-control if you can manage to beat that pressure and able to quit your way when needed. Being responsible is your duty to protect your money together with the time that you'll going to consume, aside from that, you also preventing yourself getting deeply engage as you choose to stop before your emotions dominates you.
Quitting when need is one good chance for most gamblers to avoid unexpected losses.

I guess only a few is able to do that when they're in a tough situation where their emotions are high. So, able to control oneself is also a skill that others don't know how to do.

While the experienced ones can do that easy or sometimes they can't as well when their emotions are ticking too.

Yeah right, as ever those experienced gamblers still being push by their emotions to make a bad decision making, instead of quitting they tend to force themselves thinking that there's a chance that in their next bet they will be able to make it, as we know, gambling always have that risk and it's all the same on both newcomers and experienced gamblers emotions can do things that may harmed their position to the point that they'll be losing a lot and still continue adding more money to keep playing.

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