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Bitcoin almost hit all time high a few hours ago yet altcoins are hardly moving and I am just wondering why?

When Bitcoin first hit $106k back in December, my portfolio was +200% due to altcoins pumping with it yet with Bitcoin at $106k now, my portfolio is only +38% due to altcoins lagging behind.

Why do we think altcoins are not moving and when do we think they will finally go on a run again?

That is how altcoins are and we are no more in alt season. When bitcoin was increasing, you will see the altcoins giving people higher ROI but when bitcoin falls, the altcoins fall more. So bitcoin is ranging between $102000 and $107000 and slightly making the support to be at a higher price after it increased but altcoins are not recovering as they fall more, although not that they did not increase but not as much as they are falling. This happened before and I posted about it during altseason in 2024 and 2025 that people should be careful. I know this will happen because this is how it was in the past cycles.

This is why you don't hodli altcoins but take profits when you see that their prices have pumped higher. If you feel that they will continue to pump alongside with bitcoin price, you are wrong because whenever bitcoin price dips and recover, altcoins price does not recover. We are in bitcoin bull run not altseason. Sell all your shitcoins and invest the funds into bitcoin in order for you to have rest of mind.

Exactly, you are right. I guess you have also been studying the price differences between bitcoin and altcoins. Altcoins are for gambling and not holding. If they give you 2x to 10x or more already, just do not hesitate to sell them because they will fall than expected, although what someone like me would have expected as I know how altcoins are.

I also advice people not to fall into the altcoins bear trap because when bear market will come, the altcoins will fall more than what has happened now.

I am not selling my altcoins now, when they are in the red or break even and Bitcoin is at all time high, that is the worst time to do that.

We will have another altcoin pump like we did in December at some point over the next few months and that is when I will sell them all and convert most of it to Bitcoin.

Bitcoin usually moves first & Altcoins follow, historically any way. People tend to try & milk Bitcoin’s biggest gains & then rotate into Altcoins to try & profit heavily there too. We will get a big Altseason & the fact so many people seem confident it won’t happen means it most likely will.

You are not being well observant. When Bitcoin pumps, some altcoins part harder later and when the Bitcoin price corrects, some altcoins again dump harder. What you are looking at right now is the previous effect of the altcoin dump after Bitcoin dropped to around $75K

There were already signs of life in top altcoins such as Ethereum, Sol, XRP, Doge. They are all just waiting for Bitcoin to make a new move upwards, and you will see an explosion in a few coming weeks or months.

It is of course bitcoin that gets all the attention first, then it is going to be tough and not going to be this easy for the rest. I understand it may not be great for all the time, but it is not going to be impossible for us to get to altcoin season as well. First, bitcoin should peak, and when it does, people will realize no more money left to be made from bitcoin itself, then the alt season will start. During this period, we are not there yet, so we are not going to make that much money, not yet anyways.

We need to be careful and not make too much noise about alts yet, so we gotta focus on bitcoin for the time being. If we can do a great job, then we would make profit on bitcoin first, but then we will make even more from alts.

Because altcoins are mostly about marketing, over promising and then failing to deliver. A lot of people were scammed with promises of revolutionary technology and changing the world in the last cycle, and none of this has happened.

I would not be so certain, but I hope that you are right. I have a few bags that I'd like to get rid of too.

If you are so certain, open a leverage position and become rich. If you are not, it is time to tone down on the predictions as bad advice is getting people scammed in altcoins.

I'm just asking you dude, how did you know that the alts season is over this time? To my knowledge, the alts season is not over yet based on my research on that matter.

Although I know that the alts season cycles especially in these times when I know that many still believe that the alt season is not over yet and I'm definitely among those who believe that it's done yet nor yet starting it.

It is not every move of bitcoin that cause a similar one in altcoins even though they will respond a little. For most of the time I know, when bitcoin moves it will take some times before altcoins will join, maybe the market participants may be watch to see if the move seen in bitcoin is reliable or not just some pump and dump arrangements that is why some people have the believe that after bitcoin bull season comes the altcoin season.

All the more reason why you would be dumping your altcoins and trade it for BTC. The reason is that, there is more demand to Bitcoin than altcoins that they know there is no usecase for the institutions that are the ones buying these days.

The altcoin season is probably not happening still unless the institutions are going to shift because there are no Bitcoins left in the market. And will focus more on altcoins with ETFs.

That is how it has been if you check the price of the coins. Once the coins are listed on centralized exchanges, they can go up 10 to 25 times. But before listing, they could have increased 100 to 1000 times or more. Also you will see coins almost all pumped including the old coins. It happened in 2024.

We are all speculating but you will be surprised when you see the coin not increase as they do in 2024 and later they will fall.

Bitcoin price has passed ATH and although only a little and approaching $ 110K it indicates that Bitcoin will continue to rise even though the decline always occurs but in the end it will create a new ATH and only time can tell which will most likely happen before the end of this year, and whatever the new ATH value that Bitcoin reaches will make me happy and this will be good news for those who have started buying Bitcoin gradually since long ago or several years ago because the results are indeed very satisfying and I feel it, continue to be a strong hand because you will be a winner. :-*

There is not even an indication that there is an altcoin season, so how would you say that it is not over when it didn't even begin? Nobody even knows if there is going to be one at all.

There is no reason for institutions to risk their capital in centralized altcoin that are fully under control by single foundations or companies.

This no longer happens. Listing does not do anything for the price, as the market is saturated.

I know it’s not guaranteed to work out this way but this is what I am hoping for.

Be interesting to see how high Bitcoin goes now that it has made a new high today.

We can hope
We can expect
We can be positive

but in the end of the day there's no way that we can be able to predict on where prices would be going. Bitcoin could pump but it doesnt mean that altcoins will follow all the time.
The good thing on here is that whenever Bitcoin is on green, then you can see most of coins/tokens in the market is on sideways or on gradual but not notable increase but still a good thing on which considering that Bitcoin is a main trend setter then you could expect that all follows along, it might not be on point but most of the time it will. If you do have that sufficient experience in the market then we do know
that we do have that so called altcoin season. It might not be moving some big % or gains now but there'sa specific time for that.

Better get used to within this market because there's no way that someone could be able to tell on where it would be going. Just be mindful about into the positions that you are taking into.
Always make sure that you wont be that finding yourself that being impulsive once you havent been able to meet up your expectations towards altcoins price despite of the bullish momentum of Bitcoin
as of this moment. Its not the first time but rather these are the movements on which this market could have.

Altcoins have pumped a lot in the last month, so now it's time to take profits.

For example, Ethereum has pumped 60% in the last 30 days, most of that in the last 2-3 weeks. It was at $1500, remember? ;)  Dogecoin pumped 45% in the last month, Sui even 76%, Monero >80%, and several others, including Solana, had a similar performance to Bitcoin, with a 20-25% pump.

There will be always people selling after such big jumps. So there is currently probably additional selling pressure in the altcoin markets, and that's also an opportunity to exchange some alts (back) to BTC.

Bitcoin dominance is still superior, around 64% if you look at the btc-d chart on tradingview currently (rising consecutively in the last few days). At least they should be able to suppress dominance to the range of 45%-35% if we refer to the needs of the previous 2 altcoin seasons. Otherwise, we won't see a large number of altcoins outperforming simultaneously, maybe just a handful in turn until the bear market phase begins.

https://tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=CRYPTOCAP%3ABTC.D

Bitcoin dominance showing no sign of dumping is the obvious reason, it means people aren't rotating their money to altcoin therefore altcoin market cap stagnating.

Nowadays, bitcoin's price action doesn't necessarily get followed by altcoin because in my opinion bitcoin has other market where it's accessible by passive investor and institutionals whereas most of altcoin didn't.
Therefore don't expect any rally for altcoin, unless bitcoin dominance showing obvious sign of a massive dump.

As other have explained, nobody is buying altcoin right now.
Wait until we're entering distribution phase for BTC then we can see altcoin moving.

Why? Because all the money is going to BTC right now and people still wait for chance to position into altcoin.

People are focus on Bitcoin since maybe investors are speculating about more possible pump especially that Bitcoin has so many positive things happened recently.

If situation cools down and people attention would shift then provably that altcoin season would provably starts at that time. So if they really believe that their tokens supported have good potential then better they should acquire it especially if the price is low. Since maybe they regret not to buy it especially if the price starts to move.

But deal only with top coins since for sure they are less risky compare to any shitcoins in the market since we don't know if there's a pump would going to happen with those shitcoins.

Because altcoin season hasn't started yet. Institutional investors are buying BTC like crazy, leaving other altcoins in the dust. Even ETH has been underperforming lately (despite having its own spot ETFs). We might need to wait a little longer until institutional investors get bored of BTC. Once they accumulate most of the circulating supply, they'll jump into other coins. ETH is next in line, followed by SOL, XRP, and LTC.

I'd keep buying alts at such low prices, to prepare myself for the next season. The "pump" might be bigger than we've thought. A great way to make huge profits. Be aware that "not all that glitters is Gold". Some altcoins are good, while others are pure junk (especially "meme" coins). Do your own research and you'll see what I mean. ;)

The last cycle was very different. Retail bought BTC, then distributed profits into altcoins to chase more gains. Who is going to do the distributing at that scale in this cycle? Strategy? Of course not. There is an increasing risk that the altcoin season will never come, and if it does, that it will come in a much more limited way than last cycle.

We will see if that will actually happen or not.

To get a feeler of when alts will begin to moon, look out for two things – Bitcoin's dominance, and secondly upsurge in ETH price. Once ETH begins to pump and Bitcoin starts losing its dominance, know that good tidings are on the way for alts. ETH is the leading alts, and once funds begin to flow into it, there will be FOMO in that circle. Investors who are naive will start seeing every alt as an alternative to ETH to the point that they will assume those alts can also spike like ETH. We've seen this play out in the past. I don't think it will be any different now.

I am happy that alt coins are not moving. The market is loaded with shitcoins which is eating into the liquidity of Bitcoin. At least 95% of the altcoins need to die in order to clean the market.

Altcoins are here for specific reasons. When that reason becomes obsolete, their existence becomes difficult. That's why wise investors usually do not hold a lot of altcoins. Personally, I would not invest in majority of the altcoins running in the market today.

You are going to be very disappointed soon then when alt season comes and bitcoin dominance drops  ;D

That's what is most awaited to date, when Bitcoin's dominance really drops quickly and the price of Bitcoin stabilizes,
then the altcoin's opportunity to make a price recovery.

But of course there are conditions, the altcoins that will rise and continue to be pumped are only altcoins that have a clear project,
a strong community and are able to weather the previous crypto market storms to date.

Hopefully Altseason will happen, and I also hold some altcoins that have very potential to go to ATH.

That is because Bitcoin's dominance is at high as well. Currently, its dominance in the market is 63.1% and that's a lot. Although I've seen it as high as more than 70% and I think that's circa 2021. And so, the altcoins are not moving a lot because of it. I'm also waiting for the alts that I am holding to pump but you need patience on this. There will be many that are about to pump and there goes the current ones that are pumping as well. They might move and pump a bit but many won't likely break their former ATH.

Instead on trying out to make yourself be thinking about on when it would pump then its much ideal that you should be starting to accumulate those altcoins on which you do like to invest into because we do know that once that there's that dominance be shifting or lets say that there would be those numbers change then altcoin rally will happen. Just like on what been said by others that we do have that so called altcoin season on which potential or solid altcoins will be making up some new all time highs and if you've been here on this market for years then you have known about this cycle or trend. Therefore, you should be that wise on trying out to make some accumulation before the major move, or else you would be ending up on regretting just because you didnt made out the right decision. Patience does play up a major role when investing on crypto space because this isnt a race and there's a perfect time for everything on which this is where you should be trying out to consider out such manner on being that patient when it comes to increasing price. It is just that normal for us to think that once the market do made out some pump specially on Bitcoin then it will give out also that kind of momentum into altcoins too but just like been said that this doesnt happening all the time and you should be that mindful on how you do handle up your emotions whenever you do see these conditions.

Isn't that literally the reason why bitcoin is at all time high? I mean we are at all time high on bitcoin BECAUSE alts are not moving. Meaning, people are not buying alts, and they are buying bitcoin and that is why we are seeing bitcoin go up this much.

So we shouldn't really be worried about it, we should be feeling comfortable about it, and not really see this as a contradicting issue. When bitcoin peaks, we are going to start seeing people not invest into bitcoin and start investing into other stuff. That should be a great situation for us, and we could definitely make some money from it. All we have to do is wait for bitcoin to peak, and if you want, keep bitcoin, after it peaks, you can start looking to buy some alts.

I'm done accumulating altcoins already. I have already placed myself on it and hopefully some of these bet of mine will go more than 10x. Or even just for 5x if it won't happen. To be honest, most of the alts that I am holding were on a terrible loss. Plus to it, the early sale that I've done before the 2021 bull run for BTC and that's why I am making sure this time that I am doing the right thing before I sell. I agree that there are some solid altcoins based on their performance for the past years, I am sticking now to these that I am holding and they are not a lot but still hopeful that I'll get some good returns.

I think it's primarily because the market is in a Bitcoin dominance phase when big money is moving into BTC first. Usually alts follow once BTC stabilizes or cools out a bit. Once that rotation starts we might see the traditional altseason but for now it's all eyes on Bitcoin.

If you are certain, why not take big loans out and invest everything you have? Right, you are not certain at all and are just full of hopium that your shitcoins will recover.  :)

Nothing is guaranteed. People expect Bitcoin to get to $150k easy this year, but it’s not guaranteed.

I saw my altcoins 4-5x in just a few weeks end of last year and there is high chance it will happen again

When expectations are too high, then it becomes a problem, and people who invest in Bitcoin should know whether it is worth it or not, and it takes a longer period for anyone to know the success they have made, and my problem sometimes is when you see people who have held for a short time start complaining. And even before Bitcoin reaches 150k in price, it will take a long time, so the best thing will be to hold for those that are holding. and the price increase of the asset is actually certain, but nobody knows when. This is why everyone needs to take their mind off when so that you don't worry yourself too much.

Not necessarily. Bitcoin reached ATHs in the past while carrying the rest of the altcoins with it. This time is different because institutional investors are more interested in Bitcoin than anything else. Even Ethereum is suffering dearly (no new ATH since 2021). That's despite ETH having its own spot ETFs approved by the SEC. Retail investors' efforts alone are not enough to "revive" the altcoin season. Luckily for altcoin holders, several institutional investment companies filed spot ETF applications for SOL, and XRP. There are rumors that one for LTC will be submitted too. We just need to be patient for all of this to materialize.

If you're smart, you'd use the profits earned from holding BTC to buy more alts. Once the altcoin season begins, you could end up doubling or even tripling your investment. With BTC set to rise at a non-stop rate, we can safely say it will remain the dominant cryptocurrency on the market forever. Time will tell us which altcoins will survive and which ones will fade away into oblivion. :D

While I do agree with most of your post, I disagree with retail investors not being enough to revive the altcoin season. The issue is not that the efforts are not able to revive the altcoin season, the issue is that retail is not really here anymore. When you compare the wider situation around the bull run of the last cycle and the situation now, it could not be any different. People were at home, they received free money, crypto was pumping and it was in the news a lot which retail usually didn't read as much or respond to. A lot of retail got burned on many things from layer 1 altcoins to NFTs and lending platforms. Many of them will never come back. As with new retail, there currently is little interest. You can analyze the google trends to evaluate this every time. Will retail be back to ignite a new altcoin season? It is hard to say.

I think you are underestimating the potential. You could make 10 to 100 times your investment in a day during the peak of the altcoin season.

@OP, what Frankolala said is true, you don't hold altcoins for long term. He is not the only one to say it, it has been an advice from a lot of old investors on this forum who have already had their own ugly experience with altcoin investment. If I was smart enough to sell some of the old altcoins I bought before now, I would not be in lose but the truth is that, I also lost some money in shitcoins, I had the opportunity to sell but I wanted more profit and now some of the projects are long dead and abandoned by their developers.

Depends what you mean for long term. I held one for over 12 months that did nothing then all of sudden did 40x return in 3 months.

Altcoins have not done anything really now for 5 months since the December highs, the next pump they have I will sell quite a lot , just have to stay patient.

You must realize that you just got lucky, that is it. There are thousands of altcoins that will never recover their old ATHs and have died out, and even fewer will reach new a new ATH.

My point is though that I created my own luck by holding for many months and not completely selling too early.

If you sell for a 3 or 4x , that’s still good return sure but never sell completely , always leave something incase you do see a 40x or more like my example above.

Just as an example, from December 2020 to November 2021 , Solana did a 190x return.

I’m not saying all altcoins will do this, but a few will and you only need to be holding one of them.

Retail investors lost interest because the crypto industry has focused on speculation rather than utility. The emergence of "meme" coins and their rising popularity, has stifled innovation in the crypto space. Now the vast majority of crypto projects are driven by hype. Only a small few are focused on bringing real use cases to the world. Unless developers come up with something new and exciting that will blow investors' minds away, don't expect altcoins to gain traction anytime soon. Or at least, retain high market prices for long.

Like you've said, it's hard to say when retail investors will make a comeback. The crypto market is unpredictable, so anything can happen. Better be prepared for the next "pump" before it's too late.



Yes, I know. That's why I said we should buy and hold BTC to sell during the "pump". Then, we can buy more alts. Once altcoin season begins, you'll be able to make a huge ROI. Many are waiting for the SEC to give the upper hand for altcoin spot ETFs to begin trading. Mainly ETFs for XRP, SOL, and LTC. Once these are approved, other altcoins will follow suit. Just be patient to see great results in your investment.

This is based on which alt we are talking about. Yes, if you are holding some shitcoin, some memecoin of the month type of thing, then yeah it is not smart to keep it long term and you should try to avoid it and sell as quickly as possible, even if you make a single dollar profit, just get out.

However, if you are holding something like ETH, or SOL, or whatever other bigger and known trusted coins then you are going to make some good income from it without a problem. If you do that, then you are going to hold it for ten years and you are not going to have a trouble. Even Litecoin, which was second once, and outside of top 20 now, is still profitable if you held it long enough. So, it depends on which altcoin we were talking about.

I would not blame meme coins for this, they arrived to the game very late anyway. The blame originates from altcoin projects in general. Do you remember how Vitalik sold the world that smart contracts are a revolution that will change the whole world? Guess what, they aren't and they didn't do a single thing for the existing world. It just created a new industry where smart contracts are useful, but as far as utility in the real world is concerned they are almost useless. Lies after lies for the sake of hyping non existing utility and greed.

You think that the approval of a few altcoin ETFs will kick start the whole altcoin season?

If you are intending on holding altcoin then you are going to be considering to pick up some blockchain based coins, layer1 and layer2 problem solvers especially the ones listed on major centralized exchange, these are the ones that correlate with bitcoin movement and at least have the tendency to hitting ATH even if the movement is slow at this moment.
Im saying this because they have use cases and the demand in the industry is there too for the price to increase over time. 

You should look on Bitcoin dominance to determine the reason for that. Bitcoin dominance is continuously rising together with the Bitcoin price while altcoin is plummeting which means the majority is selling altcoins to but Bitcoin that’s why Altcoins never pump like Bitcoin.

Altcoin will pump if Bitcoin dominance started to declined since it means that people is already starting to shift their investment on altcoins.

Right now, Only Bitcoin showing interest globally due to country and big group buying it as investment.

Maybe I will also add a little bit where RWA and AI based coins also need attention but need to be narrowed down because currently there are quite a lot of them so that RWA and AI sentiment still have a role in getting a large flow of funding from big investors.

Exactly. Bitcoin is gaining momentum as a result of governments and institutional investment companies' mass accumulation of the circulating supply. They're already considering it as the "next digital Gold". Altcoins are being left behind in the dust because they provide no real value (use cases) to the world. They're mostly speculative, driven only by hype. Take a look at "meme" coins and see for yourself. It's a "miracle" that Ethereum has its own spot ETF. Especially when it's inflationary by design and less-decentralized than Bitcoin.

There are rumors that Solana, XRP, and LTC will get their own spot ETFs. But nothing has been confirmed yet. Even if these coins get their own spot ETFs, that doesn't mean they'll "pump" all the way to the moon. Everything will depend if institutional investors show interest in such coins. Without massive inflows of capital, altcoins would be nothing but doomed. It's hard to predict when the next altcoin season will begin. We'd just need to "hodl" patiently until prices start moving into the right direction. ;D

Altcoins should usually not be held for very long, but still, if someone decides to do that, then I totally agree with you that they should do their research and analyze the market before they make any decision, so that they can choose the best altcoins in the market.

So many people buy useless crap and meme coins, and then complain that they are losing money. If you are running behind quick profits or trying to become rich overnight through cryptocurrencies, you might end up losing money instead of getting anything because you can't invest blindly in this market, otherwise, you are going to face losses only without any gains at all.

Good projects tend to grow over time as you said, even if they don't seem to be moving much at the moment. Market sentiments keep changing, and that will change the direction of the market as a whole.

I think a lot of good points have been made here, especially around Bitcoin dominance and how it reflects broader investor behavior. When BTC is surging and dominance is rising, it’s a clear sign that capital is consolidating into what’s seen as the “safe” bet — particularly as institutional and sovereign interest grows. It's not that altcoins have no potential, but right now the narrative and capital are heavily skewed toward Bitcoin.

That said, it’s too simplistic to say that all altcoins are trash or purely speculative. There are some solid layer-1 and layer-2 projects solving real problems, and if you zoom out, many of them tend to gain momentum after Bitcoin cools off. Timing and rotation matter.

I agree with those saying it’s about use case and staying power. Projects with real utility, developer traction, and strong communities can recover and outperform — but only if you’ve done your homework and are patient. Altseason isn’t dead, it's just on pause. Right now it’s a BTC-dominant cycle. But those cycles shift — they always have.

So yeah, hodl smart, not blind.

This is one of the major reason am always skeptical about alt and meme coin because they hardly recovers back to it previous high when they fell, because they mostly falls more than they rise, so seeing things like this doesn't surprise me anymore, that's why I prefer holding like 95% of my portfolio in Bitcoin then I can risk the remaining 5% on alt or meme coin, so that if things doesn't goes as planned, I wouldn't be that bothered.
As for this, well it's very clear that the Bitcoin dominance over alt and meme coin is still very huge that's why most shitty alt and meme coin are still down, and are not responding to the upward movement of Bitcoin, but once Bitcoin drop in value, they drop even further, this alone illustrate how shitty alt and meme are.

Better to hold big caps mostly and be in profit for it in the long run, than praying that it would all work out as intended with no real reasons behind it, only faith or good analysis (which can fail too).

Yeah it's strange, I mean ETH rallied a bit but other alts are mostly stagnant. I had good hopes from TRX this bull run but while it made some progress it's still not where I expected it to be. Was hoping for at least 60-70 cents range by now. XRP has done well but it was more because of the legal restrictions removed than anything else. DOGE was all about Elon who has stopped hyping it up. Let's see how it goes but not looking great for alts and certainly not good for memes.

More preciously, altcoin season do not last for longer duration unlike how bitcoin market do lasts for around 10 to 11 months usually. I mean to say, altcoin season may arrive at any time within this year and ETH and all major coins may test a new high at any time. This is just a speculation based on my what I observed in last 2 market cycle of bitcoin market.

It's not strange since ETH has chance a lot, and it's more centralized than ever, and probably that is the reason why most of us didn't invest or just swipe out because we don't want ETH to be like that.

But it's too late now, the people behind made their bold decision years ago and so ETH is suffering the consequences. And then as what others said, there are a lot of competitions now that's why ETH is left behind and it's very hard to see them making a good run in this cycle and they might not even reaches new all time high for the first time in a given cycle.

There are other fish in the pond these days, and ETH has lots of things to do and witness for themselves to change how the investors see it now.

Even though there are news about new funds going into ETH ETFs, I hear more criticism / fud about it for a looong while.

And more good things about SOL..