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May 21, 2025, 08:56:52 AM
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Bitcoin almost hit all time high a few hours ago yet altcoins are hardly moving and I am just wondering why?

When Bitcoin first hit $106k back in December, my portfolio was +200% due to altcoins pumping with it yet with Bitcoin at $106k now, my portfolio is only +38% due to altcoins lagging behind.

Why do we think altcoins are not moving and when do we think they will finally go on a run again?
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May 21, 2025, 09:01:42 AM
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That is how altcoins are and we are no more in alt season. When bitcoin was increasing, you will see the altcoins giving people higher ROI but when bitcoin falls, the altcoins fall more. So bitcoin is ranging between $102000 and $107000 and slightly making the support to be at a higher price after it increased but altcoins are not recovering as they fall more, although not that they did not increase but not as much as they are falling. This happened before and I posted about it during altseason in 2024 and 2025 that people should be careful. I know this will happen because this is how it was in the past cycles.

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May 21, 2025, 09:07:37 AM
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This is why you don't hodli altcoins but take profits when you see that their prices have pumped higher. If you feel that they will continue to pump alongside with bitcoin price, you are wrong because whenever bitcoin price dips and recover, altcoins price does not recover. We are in bitcoin bull run not altseason. Sell all your shitcoins and invest the funds into bitcoin in order for you to have rest of mind.

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May 21, 2025, 09:15:18 AM
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This is why you don't hodli altcoins but take profits when you see that their prices have pumped higher. If you feel that they will continue to pump alongside with bitcoin price, you are wrong because whenever bitcoin price dips and recover, altcoins price does not recover. We are in bitcoin bull run not altseason. Sell all your shitcoins and invest the funds into bitcoin in order for you to have rest of mind.
Exactly, you are right. I guess you have also been studying the price differences between bitcoin and altcoins. Altcoins are for gambling and not holding. If they give you 2x to 10x or more already, just do not hesitate to sell them because they will fall than expected, although what someone like me would have expected as I know how altcoins are.

I also advice people not to fall into the altcoins bear trap because when bear market will come, the altcoins will fall more than what has happened now.

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May 21, 2025, 09:33:25 AM
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This is why you don't hodli altcoins but take profits when you see that their prices have pumped higher. If you feel that they will continue to pump alongside with bitcoin price, you are wrong because whenever bitcoin price dips and recover, altcoins price does not recover. We are in bitcoin bull run not altseason. Sell all your shitcoins and invest the funds into bitcoin in order for you to have rest of mind.

I am not selling my altcoins now, when they are in the red or break even and Bitcoin is at all time high, that is the worst time to do that.

We will have another altcoin pump like we did in December at some point over the next few months and that is when I will sell them all and convert most of it to Bitcoin.
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May 21, 2025, 01:04:59 PM
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Bitcoin usually moves first & Altcoins follow, historically any way. People tend to try & milk Bitcoin’s biggest gains & then rotate into Altcoins to try & profit heavily there too. We will get a big Altseason & the fact so many people seem confident it won’t happen means it most likely will.

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May 21, 2025, 02:22:38 PM
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Bitcoin almost hit all time high a few hours ago yet altcoins are hardly moving and I am just wondering why?

When Bitcoin first hit $106k back in December, my portfolio was +200% due to altcoins pumping with it yet with Bitcoin at $106k now, my portfolio is only +38% due to altcoins lagging behind.

Why do we think altcoins are not moving and when do we think they will finally go on a run again?
You are not being well observant. When Bitcoin pumps, some altcoins part harder later and when the Bitcoin price corrects, some altcoins again dump harder. What you are looking at right now is the previous effect of the altcoin dump after Bitcoin dropped to around $75K

There were already signs of life in top altcoins such as Ethereum, Sol, XRP, Doge. They are all just waiting for Bitcoin to make a new move upwards, and you will see an explosion in a few coming weeks or months.

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It is of course bitcoin that gets all the attention first, then it is going to be tough and not going to be this easy for the rest. I understand it may not be great for all the time, but it is not going to be impossible for us to get to altcoin season as well. First, bitcoin should peak, and when it does, people will realize no more money left to be made from bitcoin itself, then the alt season will start. During this period, we are not there yet, so we are not going to make that much money, not yet anyways.

We need to be careful and not make too much noise about alts yet, so we gotta focus on bitcoin for the time being. If we can do a great job, then we would make profit on bitcoin first, but then we will make even more from alts.

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May 21, 2025, 03:56:17 PM
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Why do we think altcoins are not moving and when do we think they will finally go on a run again?
Because altcoins are mostly about marketing, over promising and then failing to deliver. A lot of people were scammed with promises of revolutionary technology and changing the world in the last cycle, and none of this has happened.

I am not selling my altcoins now, when they are in the red or break even and Bitcoin is at all time high, that is the worst time to do that.

We will have another altcoin pump like we did in December at some point over the next few months and that is when I will sell them all and convert most of it to Bitcoin.
I would not be so certain, but I hope that you are right. I have a few bags that I'd like to get rid of too.

There were already signs of life in top altcoins such as Ethereum, Sol, XRP, Doge. They are all just waiting for Bitcoin to make a new move upwards, and you will see an explosion in a few coming weeks or months.
If you are so certain, open a leverage position and become rich. If you are not, it is time to tone down on the predictions as bad advice is getting people scammed in altcoins.

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May 21, 2025, 04:27:22 PM
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That is how altcoins are and we are no more in alt season. When bitcoin was increasing, you will see the altcoins giving people higher ROI but when bitcoin falls, the altcoins fall more. So bitcoin is ranging between $102000 and $107000 and slightly making the support to be at a higher price after it increased but altcoins are not recovering as they fall more, although not that they did not increase but not as much as they are falling. This happened before and I posted about it during altseason in 2024 and 2025 that people should be careful. I know this will happen because this is how it was in the past cycles.

I'm just asking you dude, how did you know that the alts season is over this time? To my knowledge, the alts season is not over yet based on my research on that matter.

Although I know that the alts season cycles especially in these times when I know that many still believe that the alt season is not over yet and I'm definitely among those who believe that it's done yet nor yet starting it.

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Bitcoin almost hit all time high a few hours ago yet altcoins are hardly moving and I am just wondering why?

When Bitcoin first hit $106k back in December, my portfolio was +200% due to altcoins pumping with it yet with Bitcoin at $106k now, my portfolio is only +38% due to altcoins lagging behind.

Why do we think altcoins are not moving and when do we think they will finally go on a run again?
It is not every move of bitcoin that cause a similar one in altcoins even though they will respond a little. For most of the time I know, when bitcoin moves it will take some times before altcoins will join, maybe the market participants may be watch to see if the move seen in bitcoin is reliable or not just some pump and dump arrangements that is why some people have the believe that after bitcoin bull season comes the altcoin season.

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All the more reason why you would be dumping your altcoins and trade it for BTC. The reason is that, there is more demand to Bitcoin than altcoins that they know there is no usecase for the institutions that are the ones buying these days.

The altcoin season is probably not happening still unless the institutions are going to shift because there are no Bitcoins left in the market. And will focus more on altcoins with ETFs.

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I'm just asking you dude, how did you know that the alts season is over this time? To my knowledge, the alts season is not over yet based on my research on that matter.
That is how it has been if you check the price of the coins. Once the coins are listed on centralized exchanges, they can go up 10 to 25 times. But before listing, they could have increased 100 to 1000 times or more. Also you will see coins almost all pumped including the old coins. It happened in 2024.

Although I know that the alts season cycles especially in these times when I know that many still believe that the alt season is not over yet and I'm definitely among those who believe that it's done yet nor yet starting it.
We are all speculating but you will be surprised when you see the coin not increase as they do in 2024 and later they will fall.

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Bitcoin price has passed ATH and although only a little and approaching $ 110K it indicates that Bitcoin will continue to rise even though the decline always occurs but in the end it will create a new ATH and only time can tell which will most likely happen before the end of this year, and whatever the new ATH value that Bitcoin reaches will make me happy and this will be good news for those who have started buying Bitcoin gradually since long ago or several years ago because the results are indeed very satisfying and I feel it, continue to be a strong hand because you will be a winner. Kiss


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May 21, 2025, 05:37:14 PM
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I'm just asking you dude, how did you know that the alts season is over this time? To my knowledge, the alts season is not over yet based on my research on that matter.

Although I know that the alts season cycles especially in these times when I know that many still believe that the alt season is not over yet and I'm definitely among those who believe that it's done yet nor yet starting it.
There is not even an indication that there is an altcoin season, so how would you say that it is not over when it didn't even begin? Nobody even knows if there is going to be one at all.

All the more reason why you would be dumping your altcoins and trade it for BTC. The reason is that, there is more demand to Bitcoin than altcoins that they know there is no usecase for the institutions that are the ones buying these days.

The altcoin season is probably not happening still unless the institutions are going to shift because there are no Bitcoins left in the market. And will focus more on altcoins with ETFs.
There is no reason for institutions to risk their capital in centralized altcoin that are fully under control by single foundations or companies.

That is how it has been if you check the price of the coins. Once the coins are listed on centralized exchanges, they can go up 10 to 25 times. But before listing, they could have increased 100 to 1000 times or more. Also you will see coins almost all pumped including the old coins. It happened in 2024.
This no longer happens. Listing does not do anything for the price, as the market is saturated.

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Bitcoin usually moves first & Altcoins follow, historically any way. People tend to try & milk Bitcoin’s biggest gains & then rotate into Altcoins to try & profit heavily there too. We will get a big Altseason & the fact so many people seem confident it won’t happen means it most likely will.

I know it’s not guaranteed to work out this way but this is what I am hoping for.

Be interesting to see how high Bitcoin goes now that it has made a new high today.
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Bitcoin usually moves first & Altcoins follow, historically any way. People tend to try & milk Bitcoin’s biggest gains & then rotate into Altcoins to try & profit heavily there too. We will get a big Altseason & the fact so many people seem confident it won’t happen means it most likely will.

I know it’s not guaranteed to work out this way but this is what I am hoping for.

Be interesting to see how high Bitcoin goes now that it has made a new high today.
We can hope
We can expect
We can be positive

but in the end of the day there's no way that we can be able to predict on where prices would be going. Bitcoin could pump but it doesnt mean that altcoins will follow all the time.
The good thing on here is that whenever Bitcoin is on green, then you can see most of coins/tokens in the market is on sideways or on gradual but not notable increase but still a good thing on which considering that Bitcoin is a main trend setter then you could expect that all follows along, it might not be on point but most of the time it will. If you do have that sufficient experience in the market then we do know
that we do have that so called altcoin season. It might not be moving some big % or gains now but there'sa specific time for that.

Better get used to within this market because there's no way that someone could be able to tell on where it would be going. Just be mindful about into the positions that you are taking into.
Always make sure that you wont be that finding yourself that being impulsive once you havent been able to meet up your expectations towards altcoins price despite of the bullish momentum of Bitcoin
as of this moment. Its not the first time but rather these are the movements on which this market could have.

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May 21, 2025, 10:50:08 PM
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Altcoins have pumped a lot in the last month, so now it's time to take profits.

For example, Ethereum has pumped 60% in the last 30 days, most of that in the last 2-3 weeks. It was at $1500, remember? Wink  Dogecoin pumped 45% in the last month, Sui even 76%, Monero >80%, and several others, including Solana, had a similar performance to Bitcoin, with a 20-25% pump.

There will be always people selling after such big jumps. So there is currently probably additional selling pressure in the altcoin markets, and that's also an opportunity to exchange some alts (back) to BTC.

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Bitcoin dominance is still superior, around 64% if you look at the btc-d chart on tradingview currently (rising consecutively in the last few days). At least they should be able to suppress dominance to the range of 45%-35% if we refer to the needs of the previous 2 altcoin seasons. Otherwise, we won't see a large number of altcoins outperforming simultaneously, maybe just a handful in turn until the bear market phase begins.

https://tradingview.com/chart/?symbol=CRYPTOCAP%3ABTC.D

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Bitcoin dominance showing no sign of dumping is the obvious reason, it means people aren't rotating their money to altcoin therefore altcoin market cap stagnating.

Nowadays, bitcoin's price action doesn't necessarily get followed by altcoin because in my opinion bitcoin has other market where it's accessible by passive investor and institutionals whereas most of altcoin didn't.
Therefore don't expect any rally for altcoin, unless bitcoin dominance showing obvious sign of a massive dump.

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