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I was scrolling through the long list of guest speakers for the Bitcoin 2025 event
in Nevada next week, and noticed one name people might be surprised, if not totally shocked to see. :o

https://b.tc/conference/2025/program#speakers


https://i.postimg.cc/dVY9YPQw/schiff-small.png

it seems this will be one of the huge btc conference that we have ever seen and this time with many VIP involved.
It should be not a surprise since the public endorsement received in the last months (or from the Nashville conference) have now provided some results.

Peter Schiff has changed step by step his position about bitcoin, but I had (personally) the doubt that he was sometimes trolling his audience with silly claims against bitcoin.

I like how all of these people lined up, and then there is just an astronaut put almost in the middle - interesting to see what would be discussed here ;D

Inviting Peter Schiff to his conference is controversial but interesting. First of all, it makes noise and that's good as a free marketing attempt with kind of guaranteed success. Secondly, I think it's good to listen to speech of a person who is famous as a long time anti-Bitcoin. People can listen to him and has an opportunity to explore ways of thinking of people who dislikes Bitcoin in many years. Audience and participants will not only listen to Peter Schiff so they won't be fooled by his speech.

They are intelligent enough for differentiating right and wrong speeches about Bitcoin. Additionally, if they want to learn they will find more available resources for their learning later, and won't stop immediately after this Bitcoin conference

SaifeDean is a great person and people probably want to read his book, the Bitcoin standard.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1A2S8PK4JiYSekQZQs7kEw-BkSOc0j_ei/view

Peter Schiff for one will be the interesting speaker here, as he is a well-known critic of Bitcoin. And it's good though that he says to the Bitcoin 2025 as we all know that we are in the middle of bull run so anything and everything that will be says here will somewhat affect the price is short term. So let's see how it goes, for sure this could be the biggest Bitcoin conference that we will have in recent years and I'm seeing that there will be a full crowd here, wanting to hear what everyone will say about Bitcoin. Lucky are those who might go and see it live specially those members that are in the US. And maybe there will be someone here during a live coverage? Probably like a commentary of sorts so that those who can't attend will love to listen to it.

Yeah Peter schiff if I am not mistaken thinks that Bitcoin is a speculative bubble and also calls Bitcoin "fool's  gold" but it is surprising that sometimes he states that ‘Clearly I wish I bought Bitcoin’ published in this article: Peter Schiff : ‘Clearly I wish I bought Bitcoin’ (https://www.cryptopolitan.com/peter-schiff-wish-i-bought-btc/)
The key note on the article states:

Now I wonder what would be the talk of Peter Schiff in this Bitcoin 2025 conference.  I am somehow intrigued if he had changed his mindset now that Bitcoin has gotten this far.

I will say this will be the genuine revealing of some Bitcoin enthusiasm conference due to Peter Schiff's involvement.

Mind you, he never changed his stance towards Bitcoin because most of these people are Bitcoin enthusiasts and they understood the benefits of it years ago, but missed the early adoption of it, so what can they do to accumulate the dip since they joined the boat late, is creating some FUD in the market. Besides, BlackRock also used this strategy because one of their US owned TV station (ABC) was making negative news about Bitcoin, and a month later, they filed for a Bitcoin ETF.  Technically, they have accumulated some BTC before the public confirms their ETF.
After BlackRock filed for an ETF, there was no negative statement about Bitcoin on the TV station's morning program.

This is why I feel sorry for the people who still see the statement and the tweet of influencers as an investment decision.

peter schitt again. Boo… I guess they invited him to make fun of him and you know what? He deserves it all. I feel sorry for his followers who did what he said and didn’t buy any bitcoin in the last decade. Even himself is sorry for the opportunity he missed. He still won’t buy btc now though. He can’t change his course anymore. He has to defend his position to the end and that will harm his followers even more. I hope people lighten up and stop listening to his bullshit. Numbers speak louder than words.

I'm waiting to read and hear about his contribution to this upcoming Bitcoin event, unless his stance on Bitcoin has changed privately. If not, I don't see that man as someone who has seen or publicly admitted that Bitcoin is something good; he's always publicly attacking Bitcoin, criticising it in every way possible. It's surprising to me, to be honest, to see his name on that guest list; he's a big name and a VIP when you talk about economics, but not in the Bitcoin area.

Surprised about what exactly? That Peter Schiff is speaking on that day?  It's not something to be surprised about, he is an advocate of gold investment and it will not be a surprise to people that knows him if he goes on stage that day and start telling people to let go of Bitcoin investing and divert their investment to gold.
Since am following him on Twitter, I was surfing Twitter last month when I came across his tweet where he made the announcement himself, base on what he said on that tweet, (https://x.com/PeterSchiff/status/1912951363795034601?t=uMnNJGoImTwGD7oF0_zMdQ&s=19) that he is going to suggest to the audience an alternative. What's the alternative asset or investment he will likely talk about if not gold? unless he has finally become a true fan of Bitcoin which he has never been for decades.

A long time Bitcoin skeptical now speaking on Bitcoin conference what a crazy turn of events happening. I wonder what Peter Schiff would discuss about on that conference and I'm skeptical about his presence and intention there since maybe he's just taking advantage to get some fame in that event. But still on other hand still somehow its good that a bitcoin critic before now became a Bitcoin advocate or investor.

Also Ulbritch will be there https://bitcoinmagazine.com/conference/ross-ulbricht-to-speak-at-bitcoin-2025 and he has many things to share especially his experience dealing with Bitcoin and serving his sentence in jail. Curious to know further about this and hopefully there's video will be released about what the speakers talk about in this events.

Wow! I am just excited to see this. Peter Schiff has been a long term bitcoin critic but this is a sign that he is reconsidering or has reconsider his stance about bitcoin. I remember when he said bitcoin will go to zero and all his criticism posts about bitcoin. I will love to see what he will say about bitcoin in the coming conference.

Michael Saylor said something in the paste, that someone will not like bitcoin until they read and know about what it is. I guess Peter Shciff now have known about bitcoin has the world has been adopting it more.

Almost everybody big did and do have their grudges against BTC - but some are okay to reconsider their conclusions, whereas others - they are still sturdy to this day.

This is absolutely crazy, I still can't believe to my eyes. They guy is called a freedom fighter and down below there is a text written: Ross Ulbricht was the founder of Silk Road, an anonymous online market and the first major use-case for Bitcoin. He was held responsible for illegal drug sales conducted on the platform. How can this person be called a freedom fighter? So, those who fight for promoting drug selling and criminal activities, are freedom fighters these days? It's a huge mistake to promote decentralization through him because this basically means that decentralization equals to market like Silkroad.
I do not support the idea of catching people for drug usage, I think it's better to offer them legal options and completely close the darknet marketplace because if things will be legal, there will be no dark market but I don't support what Ross Ulbricht has done and I'll never support it. He is a criminal who should be punished for his activities but strangely he gets pardoned like he has done nothing.

It is always good to have a variety of opinions for a good discussion. Different people come to the conference; it is not interesting to see only supporters. If Peter Schiff  still has arguments to prove that Bitcoin is a bubble, well, he should prove it again, at this time and to this audience. Although it seems like it would be a big victory if some opponents of Bitcoin publicly changed their minds, it would once again prove that he is heading in the right direction.

You must be new to this =) Schiff I get, even the "astronaut" I get (Katy Perry's one too, you know).

For a moment, it was actually Ulbricht that raised an eyebrow for me. Thought he'd be unkeen to throw his hat into the same ring as CEOs and Maltese entre... sorry... astronauts. Thought he'd be even less enthused to breathe the same air as US politicians and senators, the same regime who... and then I saw it wasn't Ross haha.

Realised I know fewer and fewer of the names on these conferences. I take it as a good thing.

Hopefully, that would be the case: I do think that almost all of this old caste of people and BTC fudsters, eventually, will reconsider their positions - only to utilize BTC properly and profit from it in the long run.

This year the conference will be great for having one who was a Bitcoin naysayer and another one who was in prison for fighting about privacy.

I think he will just repeat what he said, but the difference is the words will come from his mouth, not just written in article.

This would increase Bitcoin price because people are bullish with Bitcoin.

There's also Eric Trump e.g. Donald Trump's third child.

More people - more faces to learn and remember as the time goes on, I too think it's a good thing.

I don't think inviting Ross Ulbricht to a bitcoin conference is such a good idea. Yeah, he's very pro bitcoin, but what examples will he set for the younger generation? He's probably one of the people who helped shape the narrative that "bitcoin is for illegal activities". The fact that he was pardoned doesn't exonerate the crimes committed. He was pardoned because he had served his time, not because he was innocent.
He as privileges and that has helped hi to be free, but we shouldn't take him to be a role model or something of the sort.

The only two things I want to hear from Peter Schiff's mouth when he comes on stage is
"I was an idiot and totally wrong about bitcoin. Please accept my deepest and sincerest apologies."

Anything less and he'll be getting a hundred tomatoes thrown in his face from the hardcore bitcoin audience.
Also "To make up for being such an ass all these years I will be selling all my gold to buy bitcoin."  :D

They have 400+ speakers scheduled May 27-29, so looks to be the largest bitcoin conference in history.
But how is it even possible to schedule so many to speak in only two days unless they're only getting
about 2 minutes each to say something? It seems to me one to two weeks would be a more appropriate
timeline to fit in 400 people.

I'm starting to believe that Peter Schiff might be a Bitcoin HODLer himself even though he likes to troll the community in X. If you read the post's replies from the plebs like us, they ARE laughable which probably keeps him entertained.

But what would be truly funny is if he actually own more Bitcoin than most of the plebs, including me, of BitcoinTalk.

I am surprised to find Ross Ulbricht's name there, i thought after he was pardoned by Donald Trump, he was going to stay low and under the radar, but i don't think that is what he intends to do. I am also not sure about the title of 'freedom fighter', lol.

Peter Schiff criticizes BTC a lot, but i believe deep down he knows he is wrong about many things concerning BTC, i would not say i am surprised to find his name there, because it is obvious that he cannot get BTC out of his mouth. Good to also see that the U.S. vice president is one of the guest speakers.

Ross Ulbricht has been condemned by many people in the community because he was marked as a "criminal", but what Ross Ulbricht also was, was a PIONEER BUILDER for how and what Bitcoin actually is in essence.


He's wrong but he probably makes those posts knowing that he's wrong. He merely wants to make everyone mad for his entertainment.

Peter Schiff said that on this conference, he agreed to warn people that the party is over and wants to give them an alternative. It's very strange to be honest to invite him but maybe they plan to have debates on this conference? Idk. I also checked the list and I can't find any Bitcoin skeptic, other than Peter Schiff, maybe they really plan to make fan of him, who knows  ;D He will be alone against the whole audience and other speakers, he will be bullied.

His followers share his vision, so I don't feel sorry for their loss, they want it or otherwise they can unfollow Peter Schiff, shake their own head and think clearly.

You know what.  In a world where CRITICal thinking seems to be a priority, having a critic at a Bitcoin conference is not a bad idea at all.  I much rather see two opposite sides than only people who make Bitcoin seem like the revival of Jesus.

I know Schiff has been an avid critic of Bitcoin, sometimes a silly one even.  But sometimes he does have good points to make and at the end of the day, the goal of our community should in my opinion be finding ways to get EVERYBODY aboard rather than spit on all the critics and lock ourselves in our own community.

It is hard for a lot of people to acknowledge there are cons to Bitcoin too.  Rather than throwing back a 'but so is Gold X, Y and Z!', things would go so much smoother if we all tried to find a way for all of us to be part of this thing and be happy with what it can bring us.  Schiff is old after all, he is a gold head too, but what if he switches sides and finally sees the spark in Bitcoin after all these years?  I would be happy.

And even if Schiff is there to promote Gold against Bitcoin and all, I do not mind if people invest in other assets too.  No basket should hold all eggs.  I rather hear of people owning Gold and Bitcoin than all sorts of Shitcoins and Fiat.  I am an avid Bitcoin supporter, but realistically it is a crazy thing to invest in Bitcoin ONLY, particularly considering the highly varying price and sometimes horribly bearish market.

Also, people are hypocrites.  Was Michael Saylor not a controversial figure in the Bitcoin community until he switched sides and joined our boat?  Why would Schiff be different?

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/05/23/UahQi1.jpeg
Peter Schiff's stance on Bitcoin hasn't changed. He's the same, yesterday, today and maybe forever ;D

Someone asked him on X what he's going to say at the Bitcoin conference and he gave an already familiar reply. "Sell your Bitcoin."

It will be nice to see one of Bitcoin's biggest troll go on stage and make a fool of himself. I also wish the organizers of the event can hand him an award after he's done speaking, "the bitcoin clown of the decade."

 https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/6yxkca3aae7.jpeg

When will the conference be, and will there be an actual livestream?

I'm sure Peter Schiff was merely joking in that X post. But for the sake of the ensuing of hilarity in that conference, I would truly want to watch it LIVE, and I do hope he will say it. Haha.


Do you actually believe he'll say it? He probably won't that stupid to do it, no?

Well I do think a rich whale did like the speech Ross did give at this. Ross just did receive a donation for 300 Bitcoins that is worth $31.4 Million.

https://blockchain.news/flashnews/ross-ulbricht-receives-31-4m-in-bitcoin-donations-crypto-market-analysis-and-trading-implications

Wow, that's crazy. I wonder who it was? Maybe Peter Schiff? ;D But good for Ross, he did give a pretty good speech.