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If business owners, taxi owners, hotel owners and others who claim to be working for themselves need to depend on customers and customer satisfaction for profit, that is to be able to get money from them, are they really working for themselves?

Maybe the people who are actually working for themselves are those who do not need people or to satisfy any customer to make profit, example like the traders who do not need to lure customers to their shop like business owners or hotel owners, or taxi owner that need to follow instructions from their clients etc.

What could be the real definition of working for yourself?

I think working for yourself doesn’t mean being completely independent of people, because in the end value always flows through people even if you trade or invest, you still depend on the market which is people driven to make profit. So to me working for yourself means having control over your time decisions and how you earn not necessarily being isolated from others or customer needs

Working for yourself means that you are self-employed and you have no bus. Simply put, you are the boss of yourself. You report to yourself and the growth of failure of the organization depends on you.
An entrepreneur is in this category
A sole proprietorship is also in this category

You make all the decisions yourself without depending on a board or a superior before that decision is executed.

Working for yourself simply means that you are accountable to the day to day running of you own business, whatever the income is you manage the finances and expenditures as the sole owner of that business, you are not answerable to any body and you bear all the risks and gains of the business., in most cases a lot of forks thinks that self employed means total independent.

Yes, they are working for themselves because that is their own work. They do not have any boss. All businesses relies on customers. But I do not see 'working for oneself' to be correct because people will call it not depending on any boss instead. If you have a family (like your children and your wife) to take care of, if you have your mother, father or parent to give monthly allowance, that means you are working for family also and not just yourself and you are not depending on any boss.

I work on several projects
personal ones and clients ones

we just did a huge product launch 2 months ago, with more than 18k usd revenue in 2 weeks of sales, that was amazing, but at the end of the day my client had all the prize, I just got my fixed payment and a small % bonus, she gets most of the pie
it is like that when you work for others

in my own projects I can collect a bigger % of the profit

you always depend on someone, of course
any business needs people to exist, we're not isolated

but for me the main thing is risk x reward

it's still good working for my client because I like her as a person, we get along well, and I like the work I do, I take less risk with a fixed reward
on my personal projects sometimes I win sometimes I lose...

The money you need wouldn't fall from the sky it would definitely come from people so working for yourself means that you are your own boss..you are not working under anyone's rules or hoping for a wage or salary... someone's running a taxi business is working for himself because he is not expecting someone to give him a salary, he's earning by the work he is putting in on daily basis, this is self employment

Working for yourself means you work for your own income and survival. You don’t need to rely on other people but only on yourself. You are the boss of your own job, regardless how many people you hire to work on their jobs. And whatever the outcome of your own business or job, you are the only one reliable and accountable for it, since you are both the employee and the employer.

Working for yourself simply means creating something that provides a source of income for you either on a daily or weekly basis depending on your target. Business owners, taxi drivers and the others you mentioned give their services to get paid, to income for yourself you need to find a need and solve it, this is how people who have their own businesses get paid. Being your own boss pays you more.

That is service providing and all of them are considered working for themselves if they own the service, the platform, the place that provides them profit.

As for traders,  the literal meaning of it, you're right, is that they're working for themselves. And for those that you've mentioned earlier, they're self employed. All of them fall into that category.

Self employed it is but if you're not employed by a company and you have your own source of income through selling products, services or even trading, you're one of them.

Not many self-employed folks, whether they run a biz or do trades, got complete control over their work.  Sure they dont have a traditional boss, but they gotta keep their customers happy if they wanna get paid and  so even if they call their own shots day-to-day they are still following what the market and their clients want. 

So whats the "real" definition of working for yourself? Id say it comes down to autonomy.  And we are talking more than just how you work, but also who tells you what work to do and, big one here, how you make your money.

Bottom line I dont think its a yes or no thing.  More like a spectrum.  Lots of self-employed folks might have lots of say in their daily grind, but still rely on other peeps to pay the bills.  Maybe working for yourself isnt about being a total island.  More about who is really calling the shots for your career.

Working for yourself usually means being an entrepreneur - having your own business and building it from the ground up.

In short:
Employer – working for yourself
Employee – working for someone else

As for me, I’m now working for myself because having a business has always been my dream. It’s definitely more challenging than being an employee, but here’s the most important part: it may be harder, but it’s also more fulfilling especially when you start seeing success.

Most businesses need people for them to excel. They need a customer base network to patronize it since most of our business is of buying and selling, also providing goods and services to those that need it.

Someone who works for themselves is a self-made individual. We have many in our society who run their business on their own; they have nobody to give them commands on how to run their day-to-day business activity. Whatever loss or gains they have in their business, they are the ones to deal with. They have every right to employ or sack anyone who works for them, and their decision is final.

Many people are working hard to get to the stage of being their own boss because nothing is as sweet as that. You don't dance to any people's turn of voice even when their instructions don't suit yours

I think you've misinterpreted "working for yourself". What you've described is the working part of working for yourself. If you are working, you are producing a good or a service. If you are a hotel owner, taxi driver and so on (as you described) then you are working for these customers but you do not have someone managing you, you manage yourself (hence the yourself).

This post put it well too:

Well I do know alot of people that does work for themself. It does mean they are their own boss. And they can make own choice for what they do for work.
If you work for yourself you do not need to clock in and out. And you make your own pay salary that you want.

Exactly. You'll always depend on other people (stakeholders): your boss, your clients, your partners, shareholders, financial institutions, insurance, public administration,...), so there is no pure "working for yourself" unless you get lost in a desert island, which I don't wish on anyone.

We colloquially say that working for ourselves is not getting a boss. But, as I said, it is tricky, as you can work for yourself and feel more stressed than the ones who are employed.

I always think of working for yourself as achieving your dream.

When you work for other people, you're basically building their dream for money in exchange for your time and energy.

If you become an entrepreneur whether through services offering or some sort, and you want to achieve financial freedom, it's kind of working for yourself to achieve your own dream although you're offering services.

Well, if you bring your reasoning to a logical conclusion, then the only ones who really work for themselves are drug dealers (the product sells itself) and prostitutes (there is always demand). In fact, working for yourself means that part of the value created by your work is not spent on maintaining a boss, as is the case in large organizations. That is, you are your own boss.

In any case, both a corporation and an independent entrepreneur depend on customer demand, but do not work for customers. In other words, you are working for someone who takes the surplus value (or, more simply, profit) for himself. If it's a corporation, then you work for a corporation. If it's you, then you're working for yourself. But these are definitely not customers, because they do not make a profit for themselves.

You can not be an alone wolf or entrepreneur in this world if you want to do business as you need your trade partners, your bussiness partners and more. There are mutual interactions among companies and companies with their customers, so running a business is a complicated task for everyone.

Fortunately, with Bitcoin you can do many things and completely don't have to rely on others. You can buy, hold your bitcoin and wait for Bitcoin adoption, value and price growth to get profit that similarly to get rid of working collaborations or dependence on others. You can have more freedom by doing your businesss smartly with Bitcoin, just be your own bank, a long term investor, and a diamond hand holder, Bitcoin truly works for you.

Forget about definition that is uselses for your practice

Do you see the difference in, OP, between the work of a waiter serving a customer who works in his boss's restaurant and the work of a person who has waiters working for him in his restaurant? In the same way, there are many examples. The more successfully you organize your business, the more customers you will get, but you cannot attract customers as a hired worker, right? Or there will always be a difference in cost and amount of profit. Do you need more explanations? Your business is exclusively your money from the profit, but working for someone else, you cannot manage his business, or there will again be a big difference in pay.

These category of people you mentioned I believe are working for themselves because in my mind I have an idea of what working for yourself is and that is being able to provide your resources or able to control it ( even if you borrow or get a loan for it), being able to run expenses including paying of salary if you have to, and taking in your profit. It is all about being in charge of running the business affair where everyone reports to you and major decisions taken by you. Then you are the boss


You need customers in whatever business you do. It doesn't take away the fact if you are the owner of the business and known as the boss. Remember that customer's are the sole of every business. I didn't say it but that is the fact. Those who are in pornography business need viewers who subscribed to watch them, they are also customers. Customers are important even to the smallest of micro business, it doesn't take away the fact that you are working for yourself. If you control your capital, expenses and profit without reporting to anyone, I think you are qualified to be known as working for yourself. If you are in partnership, you share same responsibility depending on the type of partnership agreement.

In my perspective working for yourself doesn’t always imply you’re fully independent from others, it only means you’re not under direct employment or income from someone else even traders rely on a market with buyers and sellers to profit. So in the end practically everyone depends on people in some form, I think working for yourself is more about having control over your time decisions and how you earn rather than being entirely free from needing others

As long as you don't give account to anyone, you start your business when you like and close when you want means that you are working for yourself. It is impossible for you not to depend on your customers for profits because who will patronize you and that's why you need to be polite and honest to your customers in order for you to progress.

Just imagine yourself running your own tailoring shop, nobody can tell you what to do or not, you have the final say. You are not working under anyone or depend on anyone to get paid.

Working for yourself does not mean that you won't lure people to your business. No single business does not directly or indirectly persuade people to join them or find a way of attracting customers to themselves. A sole proprietor, a car owner and even those that run shops still attract customers through means they've devices and that's working for them.

Working for yourself could mean that you're the one in charge of your time and the one that dictates how you choose to manage your time throughout your working environment.

Even if you own a business or you're employed by someone, if you don't have the mobility in your work, it's always like you're enslaving yourself to that work. Everyone must not necessarily be a self employed individual to work for themselves, most persons that does remote jobs and are rendering services that somehow adds value to themselves are equally working for themselves..

This is actually a wrong take on working for yourself, there is absolutely no business in which the consumers satisfaction aren’t needed, when a product is been patronized and consumers are satisfied that’s when the product sells more and the business booms. Does this actually correlate with working for one’s self I will say it doesn’t.

Working for one’s self simply means that you have the control of what to do with the time and the profit coming from the business, if you’re working for yourself you can simply choose when to show up at work and when not, you can decide how the profit from the business is been used because basically you’re your own boss. So been the owner of a business and the final decision maker is what working for yourself means

This isn’t about who you serve, but what you’re actually choosing. Nobody is immune from depending on others. Not the trader, not the hotelier, not the coder in a basement automating trades while eating instant noodles. In a so-called “neo-society”, the only people working for themselves are the ones who don’t need money, validation, or even an audience. That’s not freedom, that’s isolation. Few genuinely want that

“Working for yourself” is a social construction, a self-narrative more than an objective reality. In practice, it’s about agency and self-direction inside a system built on interdependence. Hustlers, anyone chasing the “exit” from the 9-to-5, eventually, you realize the game isn’t about escaping clients, it’s about controlling how much of your own soul you exchange for convenience, comfort, or status. Real “for yourself” is measured in self-honesty, not in avoiding others

People act like dependence is weakness. It’s not. Non-attachment, freedom, and meaning are about knowing where you’re attached and deciding what’s worth it. We have to be conscious of the trade-offs. We all serve something. Better to pick what, and do it awake, than pretend you’re above the others

Of course they are working for themselves. Note that self employment is the ability for you to be in total control of your business where you don't take command from anybody, in self employed business you make decisions and exercute them according to how you plan them without anyone making decisions for you. Unlike job where you don't make decision on your own. So self employment does not mean that you can make money without anyone patronizing you. As a matter of fact In every business you need people to succeed. You can't completely be independent without having people that makes your business grow.

If you are running a taxi, you need passengers to make money. If they don't patronize you, you will not make profit even though the taxi is your own.

Also if you manage your personal hotel, you will needs people to Lodge in your hotel to make money. So if they don't lodge in your hotel, then there is no money for you. In everything we do in life we need people around us to succeed. You can't be man alone and succeed alone.

Working for yourself is that you are the CEO of your business and not working for somebody.

Owning and managing your own business. Setting the rhythm of the work by yourself and having independence and autonomy to do so. However, it doesn't mean you are going to be self-sufficient. You still need other people to make your business work. You need customers, employees and whole ecosystem of negotiations going on to maintain a healthy economy, which will affect your business positively, at same time your business also impacts this economy positively as well. It's an interchangeable system where all parts benefit somehow.

Even traders need other people to make this activity profitable. If they were alone, the assets they are trading wouldn't have any prices... There wouldn't be demand, and possibly there wouldn't be any assets available too, as supply also has to be created by someone.

It's so funny that you use "lure" for the word choice because it resembles a trap.

Anyway, I think it still depends on the person. After all, you could work for yourself because you don't need to follow anybody else. A business is always going to be reliant on its customers, and for trading, you are against other people who are also for themselves, so you are just answering to the same market.

What's important is that as long as you're happy doing the business or even being employed, it's okay. Just don't do illegal things.

It means, you have no other reason to work, you have no boss or you have no time to chase, and you are not obligated to wake up in the morning to go to a company. In short,
you are the boss of what you do, you control the time when you want to work to generate income.

That's why we call ourselves self-employed when this happens. You have your own business that even if you are just at home,
you know that you have a source of income that you can rely on.

That would be work that benefits you alone  more like a parasitic than mutually beneficial kind of "give me what I need and I will give you money" work.
Another words for that would be "theft, especially those that benefit you alone.

There is a right way to trade Bitcoin (for example) so that it's not considered working for yourself —   Buying every significant dip to help prevent the price from dipping further. If most people can automate this or even do it manually, in decentralized manner, it becomes a useful contribution that prevents price from dipping too much when it doesn't suppose to, and this becomes a very useful and deliberate contributions to the Bitcoin Community... you also benefit when price goes up. And it means you are serving an important role in the Community which could be called a Dip Prevention role.

If we refer to the definition of working for yourself, it will actually be very different from each person because there are also people who work in other people's companies just to support themselves without thinking about others. While on the other hand, there are also people who are able to create good systems and products that are in great demand by many people so that these people do not need to work for other people just to get money because other people will come directly to them to buy and offer the products they already have.

And for business owners like the ones you mentioned, they are actually people who sell services so that everyone is interested in using their services every day, so it is not really appropriate to say that they work for themselves, but on the one hand they also do not work for other people, but they only work to make other people interested in what they are marketing.

Working for yourself also means you are your own boss so therefore you are responsible for whatever income you make, you do not depend on anyone to pay you salaries before you can survive. You also determine how much you charge for any job you do and you are in total control of what ever happened to you in anything you found yourself doing.

One of the sweetest things about working for yourself s that you are not pushed or force to do whatever you don't want to to.

Those traditional business and comparing out literally to trading might be having that similarities and differences on which both things are ways on making money. It all matters about on how its been done on which we know that trading does also need up that capital and this do still involved buy and sell. You are just that literally that trying out to deal into buying whether forex,indices,stocks and crypto on whereas if we do speak about into those businesses mentioned above then it do turned out that these are offering services to their clients on which this is where they do make money from. Different industry does have that different applications and executions on how they do make profits but in the end of the line then it would be still aiming up to make on the same target on which is to make money.

So I dont see up into the point on why we would be that needing up to know the differences on how things or making money in between things? Doesnt matter whether you are a trader or a traditional business owner.
We are all aiming on the same thing on which is to make money and survive on this world on which we can be able to provide on our needs. It is just that each one of us does have that different plans in our minds and different sets of skills on which we do focus on and trying out to earn on what are the methods that we are trying out to deal on with.

I consider it as a value.

If you're a low value, you're working for someone.

If you're a high value, you're working for yourself.

Example there's someone who work as a customer service, he only do what the thing given by his boss, he has no initiative to give more. He will ended up as a low value worker because he will not improve anything.

On the other hand, there's also someone who work as a customer service, but he like to dig how to become the best customer service and he keep learning. This, he work for himself and he don't have to search for a job, instead people will search him.

There is no peace like doing your own work. Because even if your own work is a little wrong. Then there is no one to tell you. If you do your own work, you can be mentally at peace. On the other hand, if your mind wants, you can skip work wherever you want.

What you said in the first sentence is nothing but the truth.

The benefit we get from working for ourselves isn't about getting payments whenever we feel like or by how much we charge our customers/clients. The benefit that is more precious to me is that fact that you have time for other things life has to offer which creates more opportunity for growth and development. When you explore you see other opportunities in diverse areas and how you can partner with other big business to push collaborations and expansion.

Time is the most  important thing a self employed person enjoys in his business, if you have are  business of your own you determine when you resume and when you close and out have all the times to take care of other important things that will be beneficial to you and your business.

If it's possible for everyone to be self employed to have the feeling of freedom it would have been nice but many seems comfortable working under the big bosses because of lack of funds to establish their own business.

Working for yourself means you provide your personal income without asking from others. You work on your personal welfare and financial freedom. However, whether you’re together with some other workers and make you their boss, it does not matter. As long as you are providing earning opportunities for yourself or even to some other people, that only implies you are working for yourself without trying to depend from others.

Working for yourself means that you are not accountable to anyone and you are not solely dependent on others for your income. You are your own boss and you are responsible only to yourself for your work. This means that you are an independent entrepreneur or businessman. Here you will be able to manage all the publication schedules in your organization according to your rules and you will be able to introduce your organization's policies in a timely manner.

Yes, that is something that must be done in the policies applied to oneself, it is very important, especially regarding the potential for success in working for oneself. In managing one's own potential, one needs enthusiasm to applied and that enthusiasm will be the driving force in working to be motivated, whatever effort is made will bring success depending on the enthusiasm that is possessed which will bring success by always thinking positively.

Service is the most important part of a business to attract new customers and retain old customers. Merchants also need to build relationships with customers so that their stores are increasingly visited by visitors. Merchants also need to create a comfortable atmosphere to increase sales, loyalty and customer satisfaction. Every business owner needs to build a close partnership with customers to increase profits, and this also applies to traders.

I disagree if you assume that merchants do not need to attract customers to their stores, without friendly, responsive and personalized service, it will have a negative impact on the reputation of the store.

In my view,
Working for yourself means going for knowledge in a relevant area to enhance self productivity.

Also working for yourself means acquiring relevant skill that must be sought after by people.

Because even though you are self employed, taking every decision that has to do with the business, you are either answerable to some authorities.

There is famous saying from Aristotle that "man is a social animal" that in turn means that humans rely on social connections for their well-being and survival. In all sort of businesses and jobs humans are interconnected with each other. A sales employee need to have good relations with clients in order to attract more sales and secure his job. Likewise merchants need to have good relations with clients to ensure smooth operations of his business.

I have read answers about working for yourself in this thread as people who work as freelancer since they are boss of there own. Even freelancers works for clients who gave them work and they need to maintain good relations with them for future work.     

My definition is working for yourself is not just about not having a boss it is about taking full responsibility for everything. You wake up and realize that if something does not move, it’s on you. There is no backup plan, no guaranteed income, no one to catch you if you slip. That can be scary. But honestly, that’s also where the power is.

You make the decisions. You deal with the losses. You carry the wins. And every step forward, no matter how small, is yours. You’re not following someone else rules or building someone else dream you’re doing it on your own terms. It’s tough, no lie. There are days it feels overwhelming, like nothing is working. But there’s also this deep pride that comes from knowing you're creating something for yourself.

For me, that’s what keeps me going the freedom, the challenge, and the fact that every bit of progress means something. Not just because it pays the bills, but because I built it. That’s what working for yourself really means.

Those you said there are self-employed or business owners, while working on our self can also have its own meaning like we need to fix our self if its currently messed up. Working for our self can also mean that we must be independent or not rely on our family or to someone else. What is the reason for this OP on why you came up with such question or thread? Is it about having a business and a customer? Or you want the trader type thing that doesn't rely on customer?

Well, each still has their pros and cons. Traders doesn't need a customer but I think it is only a bit difficult for the most people but if you think dealing with customers is the hardest, then you might still do everything that you can, only to get used to it.

Working for yourself is also know as self employed. The pleasure of having your own business and being yourself boss is a great opportunity.

Self employed is a situation whereby you have your own way of making money without working under any body.

Is really important for a self employed person to maintain the satisfaction of their customers and be kind, loyal and generous to them, because wise man said "customers are always right" and this policy is also applied to traders and so on. Customers  are the eyes of the business. And the reason why I said that this policy is also applied to the traders is because if a customer wants to purchase something from you and the customer was rude to you, if you try to defend yourself and argue with the customer, he/she may leave angrily without buying your goods, and at the end of the day you will be the one that will have something to loose.

Whatever you want to do to make money to sustain your life, it has to do with the involvement of the people, you just have to learn how to be patient because you are going to meet with different kind of people with their different characteristics.

Being a self employed person has less stress than working as a civil servant or in any other private sectors. They is not legal work that you will do and you will be free from problems and there is no way you will sit at home and make money.

The sweetest part of being self employed is that if you were able to work hard and develop your business and it becomes standard, you can employed trustworthy people that will manage and run the business for you smoothly/properly. and at this point you can be sitting at home and you will be enjoying the fruit of your labor with stress free. It will be left for you to be checking on the business time to time.

It all depends on how the seller or the person providing services to clients perceives what he does. Remember the Turks, these guys are born traders and lovers of guests, they love to communicate and trade, and they certainly perceive all the above-described businesses as entertainment and work for themselves and only for themselves.
As for those who would adhere to the opposite point of view: these are introverts, these are people who do not like to communicate at all and often such individuals dream of having a job here, where they will need to communicate to a minimum. But their mental abilities cannot always provide them with this situation. Therefore, we often see irritated guys among waiters or at the checkout in fast food.

Business owners, hotel owners, or taxi drivers, whom we refer, cannot be said to be completely independent. They have to depend on others indirectly. If we look at it from a natural perspective, a businessman does not depend on others in the same way that a person who is working in another organization depends on others like job. Business owners, hotel owners or taxi drivers directly earn money by providing direct services. I will definitely mention this work as my own work. Because when my business expands, I will be more profitable. If the customer is not satisfied with me, then my business will not expand. This can indirectly mean working for oneself.

Working for yourself to earn money does not mean that you will not be of service to others, to make money you need to give out value either in goods or rendering services that you will be paid for. The only instance where you don't answer to anyone as a person that has something of value to offer is when you are consuming your idea or products by yourself but that cannot make you to become rich. Working for yourself means that you are not under somebody's employment, you are dealing directly with your clients or customers, you don't take orders from anybody on how to run your business, you are your own boss. The opposite of everything that I mentioned means that you are working for someone else and will follow directives that are given to you.

Working for yourself just means you earn through your skill or service and still have your time properly managed by you. The difference between a person working for someone and someone working for themselves is that outside the fact money is owned not earned, the person also have control of their time, decides which service they will love to render, deliver or decline.

A worker be it public or private doesn't have their time no matter how much the earn. But in the case of a person who owns their own business they can decide and make decisions for themselves.

If the work is related to business, of course there is a difference in terms of responsibility because most businesses do need other people or other authorities as you mentioned. But for people who are able to make money without involving other people in their lives, they are quite extraordinary people because they do not have to be responsible for making other people interested in them in order to buy or wear what they have. So for this kind of thing, usually everyone always has a different perspective in understanding it because working in someone else's place can basically also be considered for ourselves.

Really working for yourself means having full control over how you earn a living & setting your own schedule, choosing your clients or projects plus being responsible for the outcome. It’s not just about owning a business it’s about making decisions without needing permission. You create the work, take the risks & reap the rewards. It’s freedom but also pressure because everything falls on you. No boss, no time clock just you & the results of what you build.

Your second paragraph it's pointless because business involves buying and selling and that's to say aside working for yourself you need customers indulgence to get your satisfaction and profits. So that phrase doesn't define anything. So in my own point of view working for oneself simply means you are your own boss and the employer to an employee and most times you do everything by yourself.

This is always priority while you are working for yourself you have to be more responsible and able to handle things on better way because its never been easy to manage things setting for own like living and also managing work.
Sometime peoples take different mean like in OP many read even I am not agreed but still its important and never been easy to manage things for yourself because its always take more time and better strategy otherwise its can go into wrong way and you can lose badly.
I personally love to work by myself which give me better motivation and things to handle all even its never been easy for me because sometimes its take long hours to manage and sometimes it's easy but still It's hard to do things because too many things around need more intention.

When working for hire, the "business owner's" also depends on clients. In general, like any business, because without a client (bringing profit), business is basically impossible. That is, it is a direct dependence on the client. The business will cost exactly ZERO if there is no client.

"Self-employed" people distribute the profits they receive as they see fit. When working for hire, the "business owner" will perform this function and, of course, will distribute it in his own favor.

Traders are also dependent and their "clients" are the buyers of his crypto / securities.

This is when you yourself determine what, how and when to do to make a profit, and not according to the instructions of the "business owner". That is, you play the role of the "business owner" yourself. And in all other respects, it is the same as when working for hire.

Having that point, then I can conclude that working for ourselves does not really mean we can rely on our own completely. We need our customers to make us profitable, without them there won’t be possible profits for us.  However, at least we are the direct sources of our services, and it’s not that we have some bosses or employers of our own, we are the boss of our own so it can still be said somehow that we are working for ourselves.

Even the traders needs or depend on other people before trading, do you think that trading could work without anybody who is buying or selling?, actually those who are buying and those who are selling depend on each others. So actually there is no way anything that yield profit will not depend on something for the inflow of the money, this is also how it is on hotel owners even if they have everything inside without the customers is nothing but however that doesn't mean that they do not work for themselves because every profit comes to them and definitely there would always be customer so long as the need is there.

Honestly speaking, I guess working for yourself and make yourself profitable without the presence of your customers does not really exist. Even if you say you own a shop, whatever shop it is, if you don’t have those people who will patronize the products of your shop, or your services, then you won’t be making any profits then.

Working for yourself may only be apply if you want something good to happen to yourself or you want to improve yourself. Other than that, I don’t think it’s possible then.

It means taking control of your career, your income, and your responsibilities, choosing your own hours and working from wherever you want. It’s entrepreneurship, but you can’t romanticize it, thinking it will be easy. You are the one who will take care of customer service, finances, delivery, development, and everything else that involves a business, being both the boss and the employee…

It is misleading to think that a “merchant” doesn’t need to attract customers to his stores, because there are many others like him, so he will need to differentiate himself, in terms of quality, perhaps price, presentation of the business (location, cleanliness, etc.), so yes, they need to satisfy the customer in order to make a profit.

“Doing business” involves financial transactions and will always require two or more people involved.

Our world operates on the laws of supply and demand. That means humans are interdependent, no one can survive if separated from it . So, working for yourself doesn't mean you don't have to serve or please anyone.

You are a supplier and you want to sell your services, goods...you need customers and this can be considered as a dependency. But you have complete freedom to choose what you want, you can sell the services or products you like, choose your customers...without having to listen to anyone's orders or instructions.



To me, working for myself means being my own boss, being self-employed . This means you are in complete control and responsibility for your work and income rather than being managed or  dependent on someone else .

There is no business that doesn't need to attract customers and people. Shop owners and hotels need customers, otherwise their business would cease. How can you imagine a hotel or shop without customers? In fact, every business needs customers and clients.

Following customer instructions doesn't mean you aren't self-employed. For example, a taxi driver needs to follow customer instructions to get them to their desired location, and a construction engineer needs to follow customer instructions to get the house they want to live in, and so on.

Many freelance jobs are based on customer instructions, but they are still freelance work, and the freelance business owner can accept or reject the instructions if they don't like them.

It mean self employment op, because you are the owner of the business and you have the authority to fire anyone in that business to employ or not to employ than to be doing it by yourself, Some of the business owner working in the business, just want to know what is coming in and want is going out from the business account to know if the workers are not doing the right to increase the incomes of the business which is the reason you seen some hotel, restaurant owners etc doing the business by themselves some time.

The difference between working for yourself and working for someone else is simply that you have more autonomy and initiative in making decisions about work, time...without having to ask anyone's permission. But besides that, you will be the only one who will have to bear all the responsibilities and consequences because you are the one who makes the decisions.



You can do it, you don't have to serve or try to please customers, you have the right to refuse their requests if you don't want to serve them. But you are also the one who has to suffer the consequences because it was your decision and if your business goes bankrupt it is your fault.

Even though this business owners and co. depends on their customer, we can still validly say that they are working for themselves because they are not on anyone's payroll, they rather generates their profits themselves through the satisfaction of customers needs

The major reason why I can confidently say that they are working for themselves is that they have ''Control'' They alone decides how the business runs, when to work, and what risk to take. This is very much different from when you are employed where your time, working hours and so on is determined entirely by someone else.

Every business both the small and large scale depends on their customers, but that doesn't make them any less independent.

Like hotel owners pointed above, they must have to decide the level of customer they will serve as per the cost of their services.. This might be from the beginning of the project or during the running of the hotel with the help of the manager or so... (e.g lodging and party spaces together or only lodging, which can target different customers (individuals or companies). A cleaner and other staff even the manager in the hotel cannot decide somethings for themselves.. The owner can travel even overseas for as long as while his business is on. The manager and others can not do that.
Every business is customer dependent and how you serve this customer to an extent determines their next patronage.
By these, hotel owners and others pointed above are working for themselves.



 crypto traders, fine. But then like hotel owners, you decide when to trade as they also decide when to open, you decide platform to trade on, they decide who to serve and the level of service...
Looks different but the forces behind is the same by implications making both to be working for themselves



Working for yourself means
All level autonomy (hour to work, projects to take and direction to follow)
Taking all probable decisions leading to success or failure and bearing all rewards and risks that follows.
Directly decides to increase your earnings or not by multiplying your services or venture into different services since you can get others to work with you and or for you.

In working for yourself, no paycheck is guaranteed... Earnings is based on level of effort and value provided.
Hotel owners, taxi owners etc and traders fits correctly into this aura by implications.

You're right, ordinarily this your definition is what it is, it self employed, being in charge of what you do to get money for your without being ordered around by anyone except youraelf, you have the sole right to make whatever decision as far as the establishment whether small or big is concerned, buddy working for yourself doesn't mean you can't employ anyone under you, you can. Actually do that especially when you can no longer handle things alone but what matters is that you are not working for any external body, any profit made is yours and here they profit is been channelled to is your decision so thats it.

Yes, many people assume that working independently means working independently, such as running your own business or company without being tied to a particular company. In fact, it is not always like that, working for yourself also applies when working with other people or under other people.

The essence of working for yourself is that we must work with full responsibility and you work wholeheartedly. Even though you are just an employee or subordinate in a company, you are not working for your boss. You actually work for yourself because it is your responsibility to do and you earn a living through that job.

Working for yourself in a literal meaning simply means having your own business, it does not mean that you are not expecting patronage from any other person, it means you are the CEO of your business and you pay tax in fortherance with the revenue that your company generates, nobody can sack you, nobody can wake up one morning and close up your business. The example of people working for themselves like traders you mentioned is simply the same thing like the hotel owner, a taxi driver will need patronage from Passengers, a trader needs to lure customers to patronize their goods, so nobody is just an island that you can just stay and have your own money from the thin air, you most either patronize somebody or people are patronizing you.

A crypto trader works independently, profiting from market volatility using personal capital. U research, execute trades, and handle risks.... NO paycheck or workplace guide. Discipline, steady learning and emotional control is demanded for success around the market 24/7....
Personal performance, Taxes and fees causes fluctuations of income...

All these attributes pointed are likewise required in the running of businesses.

See this question;
If traders are the only ones working for themselves because they don't need customers, how about trading company owners (trading platforms) that needs customers, are they working for themselves?

This is to show that trading is decentralized just like affiliate marketing that the marketer doesn't need to produce any goods or have a warehouse/store/shop... But that of traders is decentralized to extent that as a trader (customer of trading platform) you don't need customers to keep earning..

When we are in a world where we leave a comunial lifestyle that everything about us most time depends on another person, so being independently free, can be somewhat a falasy statement, most especially financial independence, because even when you own your own private business, you still need others to buy from you before you generate income.


But in simple terms, working for yourself is the ability to be your own boss and ultimately control your time and pay yourself, that is you are not working under anyone, you are the boss and others will be working for you, but that doesn't mean you totally depends on yourself for everything.

Working for yourself can also be interpreted as a job that is affiliated with a business that we develop with our own capital so that all we need to do is try to develop the business with the abilities we have. It does not have a system that adheres to other people's concepts even though sometimes we try to adopt other people's patterns to achieve success in building a business.

Hotel owners also need to attract customers because now there is a lot of competition in the hotel sector and vice versa with other businesses. Business will never grow when someone does not have a strategy and I think almost all businesses need good and attractive service to influence customers.

And this is where business do survives on which it would be needing up for it to be that able to hook up costumers or simply having that recognition in order for it to survived. If a business failed to be able to reach up that goal or condition then expect that it would be ending up on bankrupt or would be ending up on a failure. Everything in speaking about business will always be relying on how profitable it would be and thats why different methods and gimmicks on which these businesses would be trying out to do for them to be able to hook up with customers on which it acts out to be the blood for it to continue running for years. For those who doesnt touched up businesses or investments then they are the ones will be sticking into their day job and just that contented on what they do currently have as they wont be having that plans on doing so because they cant just that be able to make one due to financial factors or simply they dont have any idea on how to do it.

When it comes into competition then it would be that always been part on which tons of similar business owners will be that thriving for the best on getting that bigger chunk of the marketshare. This is where they would come up with new unique ideas on which they would be that making use just because they've been that trying out to get customers on which it will be that their primary target for them to be able to succeed into this industry.

It may be more about the technicalities of running a business although it also has something to do with working for yourself by paying other people to do it. But for people who work for themselves, of course they will always care about what can bring profit and income for themselves, namely in terms of running their own business by using several other people in it. So it can be interpreted that working for yourself is work that we can arrange ourselves starting from salary to vacation time without any obstacles from anyone.

You are overcomplicating the definition, imo.

working for yourself just means no one is employing you but how we make money is through exchange of goods and services and that is what you are still doing even if you are working for yourself. With trading, there is also exchange of money and you are hoping to make profit out of the money you put in the market.

I don't know the context you are taking the phrase "working for yourself to". What you mean by that should be being self employed right? I was trying to comprehend the examples you gave but couldn't. Can we see it this way as a perfect example of working for myself.

I am an entrepreneur, I sell goods and services online. I am also a developer. I need website for my e-commerce website, instead of paying a developer to build the website for me, I decided to build it myself since I am a developer. Have you seen a real example of working for myself?

Absolutely. All kinds of business need their customers in order to keep going. Without them, you will fail on your goal, to attract sales and make profits. However, working for yourself can be attributed to working as an owner or provider of the job to your workers or employees. You are your own boss, and you manage your own source of living without any interruption from other group of people.

It's understandable, everyone dreams of it, owning a business and being your own boss. It doesn't really matter if some call it working for yourself, even though any type of business indirectly involves others. But when you're the boss, you have full authority and aren't bound by anyone else rules it's all up to you. I believe, however, that everyone with a business, whether offering goods or services, must always be consistent. What I mean retaining customers and providing the best service to ensure your business thrives long term. The hardest thing is actually starting it, those who have succeeded in having their own business are definitely hard workers and really understand how to make their business grow.

Your examples don't go well. No one can live independently without the help of others. As a business person, when you say you work for yourself, it means that you are not reporting to anyone. No one takes the profits from you. In fact, no one is your boss! You make the rules and break the rules because you are the boss of your own business.

Mind you, you still need customers, clients, apprentices, and even employees to help make your work run smoothly while you alone share in the profits.

This is as opposed to those who are employees in organizations or taxi drivers who got vehicles from the original owners and only have to send in some percentage to the original owner of the vehicles. If you find yourself in a situation where you have to be accountable to someone else who is superior to you, you are obviously working for that person.

That is a deep and also a good question. What could really be defined as working for yourself? It simply means not having a boss, having freedom over yourself to decide when to go to work and also when to stop working, and taking risks and responsibilities for the business.

Also, the other important factor is to talk about who really is self-employed because, like traders, they don’t need to satisfy customers or other things, which is also among the types of self-employment because there are two classifications of self-employment.

1. Transactions and self-employment: These are people that deal with customers, either selling goods or services that will have to satisfy their consumers before they can get more patronage, like small business owners, clothing brands, taxi owners, and also hotel owners.

2. Autonomous self-employment: these are people that deal with either stocks or trading that involves both crypto traders and creators of automatic digital products like eBooks or selling apps; they don’t really need to satisfy or serve their consumers before they get their income.

No one works for themselves unless you live in mountains and all you do is farming and raising livestock and don't care about the modern world. If you live that way, then you truly work for yourself but if your life is similar to modern human, then we all work for others. Today, when people say I work for myself, they mean freelancing and/or the fact that when they work as a taxi or delivery guy, they are able to start working whenever they wish and end it up whenever they want.

This should be self explanatory, working for yourself simply means you run the show of the business and you don't need to be answerable to a superior!!! Any new purchases of the business you can solely make the decision of acquisition, any maintenance needed is also your responsibility... Customers in this equation are more like your business partners, you rely on them to support the business for it to grow , and not like you answer to them.

Working for yourself or self-employed means that we work without depending on anyone, because we have full control over our work and time. Working without demands or pressure from others, because the good or bad work we do is our own responsibility.

And it seems that this is something that most people want to achieve, namely working for yourself. However, this is not something that is easy enough to achieve, we do have freedom over the work we do but do not have any guarantees, including the guarantee of a fixed income every month like when we work in an office.

And in my opinion, the type of work that does not depend on anyone and really works for itself is an artist. They never depend on customers or other people, they only pour and channel what is their creativity, imagination and the contents of their minds into a canvas or other works of art. and people really appreciate that creativity and art with a fairly fantastic value that sometimes the value is unreasonable.

It seems to me that the worst job is working with people. Like doctors or service industries such as beauty and teachers.
Because different people can come with different understandings, with different moods and their own events in life, and often because they pay you money they will be ready to happily dump all their negativity on you.
That's why I like professions like construction, my own production or writing code for programming much more - these are cool jobs where you don't need to communicate with anyone.

Working for yourself has various meanings. But all of them have something in common, namely that they are basically people who don't work for other people's companies, aka they are not employees of other people's companies. But people who work for themselves are those who are self-employed, freelancers or something like that which is usually called self-employed.  The services offered can vary. Even if he has expertise in the service sector, such as being a consultant or something like that, that also includes the ability to work for himself. because working for yourself does have more freedom than working for someone else. Even being a breeder or farmer may also include being someone who works for themselves. And I think being a farmer and rancher is what reflects this the most.

You ask a pretty deep question, indeed the meaning of working alone is a worker who is not tied to a boss because you are the boss and also the freedom to determine the time and type of work that you will pursue (self-employed) but that does not mean you do not have to depend on other people or customers because most types of jobs today require customers for example as you have written, which actually does not require other people is investing because you do not have to serve. However, because now it is a capitalist world so all types of jobs definitely require other people.

No matter which sector you work in, you need others to exist to make profit and that's why you always depend on the market. Even a trader depends on the market sentiment and has to act accordingly to make money. As far as satisfying customers goes, I guess every service provider has to do it.

For me, working for yourself means that whatever you earn is yours and you are your own boss. You decide when to work and when you want to take a day off. Basically freedom of work is a more accurate way of saying it.

Good point you are providing them their needs and you are collecting the payments to keep your business running, I like the way you said it your clients are your partners to keep the cycle and like what you mentioned, it's a self explanatory on how you deal with your clients and how you execute each plans that you think will work for your  business more on your own  as it relies on your actions in taking responsibilities.

But even an artist depends on what is perceived good in the market. Yes an artist can imagine something he believes is truly amazing but unless recognized by others, it's just a drawing. You need to satisfy the customer to make money. Consider a Fiverr guy who makes amazing logos according to what he believes looks best. But he would only get paid once the customer likes their work.

So, no matter how good you are it's the customer who determines how much you get paid. BTC would be nothing without mass adoption. The idea was just as good in 2008 as it is now but the price is high because it's recognized by more people now.

Yeah, but in a way the customer is the boss whom you are answerable to, for your to earn more.

I believe, he is referring to working alone (i.e. online/remotely) without face-to-face encounter with other people. Because in today's set-up, you can really earn income via online transactions and you don't need to deal with other people. With the pandemic era, I guess a lot of people discovered how to earn income remotely, meaning, they can work basically anywhere in the world as long as there is computer/laptop and net connection. The way people work online drastically changed owed to this worldwide pandemic.

From my understanding, "working for yourself" means that we have freedom over the work we do. We ourselves regulate everything, both the length of time of work, and the vision and mission of the work that we determine, without interference from anyone, and we can generate unlimited profits, depending on the efforts we make. But of course this is also commensurate with the risks involved, because when a loss occurs, we ourselves will bear the loss, whether large or small. When you choose to take this path, then you will be required to be able to survive, and fight because you yourself will go directly into the field. Everyone wants that, but not everyone is able to take the bold step to go directly into the field. And if you are in doubt, it is better for you to become a corporate slave, at least you can get a guarantee of a fixed income every month.

And I would be that preferring this kind of set-up. This is indeed possible but there are people who are close minded about these probabilities. We do know that in this digital era on which we can be able to do jobs in the convenience or comfort of our own home. Not only that would be saving up yourself in daily commute and toxic workmates but also this one is that much more better paying than with your typical day job that we do know. Somewhat it is just that really hard to get in or being hired online because it requires that specific skills and when it comes competition then there's high competition or lets say that it is a bit that saturated nowadays but it doesnt mean that you cant be able to landed up a job online. It will be just that depending on how well you do make those applications and it would be also basing up with your skills too.
It doesnt matter on what kind of income source you are dealing into, the most important thing is that you do able to achieve on earning income.

For trading or doing business or investment then it will be having that different approach on how they would be executing out those actions but i do agree into some points above that everything is done for us to make profits or income on which its just that not much of a concern because we are all trying out our best to become profitable and this will be that our main priority. So it will be just that depending on you on how you would be executing it well into the career or venture that you would be trying out to deal on with. We are all hoping on the same target on which is to make money or profits.

Whatever you do, in some way, your customers must be satisfied... success in that means success in your business, without it, your business fails.
You could have mentioned various artists, but it's the same story for them... their art has to interest the audience if they want to be successful.

But not everyone strives for success... at least not financially. Brother Bukowski knows a lot about that... ;)

The idea of working for yourself isn't restricted to offering of services alone. There are more ideas like making your own financial decisions, managing your own risks, profits and losses, managing your own time and so many. These things are much common between the traders you pointed out and the business owners you mentioned. As long as you run these things yourself, then you're definitely the boss. You can't find a receptionist or bar attendant doing this things, why?, because they don't work themselves.

Those things I mentioned might look simple, but guess what, they've ruined so many businesses over the years due to the inability to handle/manage them properly. If as a business owner that works for oneself, and you don't know how to balance your books when in profits and loss, or you struggle to manage business/workers time, then your business is definitely vulnerable to crumbling.

There are millions of people who are doing work and are earning good from their small investment but they don't depend on any company because we know that job holder person has no free time to enjoy life and business owners have free time to enjoy life for their family. There are two type of business persons because small business owners are not dependent on any employer but they don't have enough time for many things but big business owner are real smart workers because they don't do hard work and are earning money from hard work on of their employees.They made a network and established business and now they are working for their selves and doctors are also working for their selves by making hospital.

People said, working for yourself is when we can work freely. What if the customers ask for a deadline?

People said, working for yourself is when no one intervening your work. What if your customers watching you during work? they also ask you to do something that you think not supposed to do and they limit your creativity.

etc.

It's not that free, if previously you work for your boss, now you work for your customers.

The real working for yourself is school or course.

There is a joke in my country - A taxi driver talks with the client that he likes his job because he doesn't have to wake up early and he is his own boss, then the client tells him to turn right there and then there is a silence in the car.
The point of this joke is that you are not your own boss when you work as a taxi driver or in a similar position. There are only a few jobs when you work for yourself but I can't think about them, maybe if you own the business, you really work for yourself but otherwise, you are not your own boss. I am an UI/UX designer and I'd say that there are moments when I'm almost my own boss because the client fully trusts me and my work, so I don't get any order or correction from them, they tell me what they want and then I do the job and we both are happy.

They are indeed working for themselves. Here is why:

They are the reason why they are working.
They need to feed themselves thus they need to work.
The ones they offer their service are called clients or customer, their service are paid in return for the convenience of the customer like instead of walking going through their destination, the customer hire a cab to take him to his destination.


If you don't offer services how could you get paid?  If you don't have any money, how can you survive?  Thus you need to survive.  Thus this is the core explanation of working for yourself.


If you trade, you offer your stuff, if there is no one wanted your stuff then you won't get profit.  This is the same thing as offering service to a client.  You trade your service for the money of your client.


As I stated above, you work to meet your daily needs and wants thus you are working for yourselg.

The truth is that remote labor and digital jobs just provide a new reflection of how social systems used to function. Skills are currency, competition is relentless, and convenience is never free. People are all looking for "freedom", but most are just swapping one set of limits for another: from the office grind to algorithmic monitoring as well a never-ending push to stand out in a crowded market. Yes, there are more ways to get in, but the people who control access simply changed form: platforms, credentials, and personal branding. The only thing that doesn't change is how adaptable you are. "Making money" is the bare minimum; to thre  you have to reinvent yourself every time. Not being attached to anything helps since no employment, online or off, is safe for long. Even when you do it to survive, people still don't realize how much inner work it takes to not let what you do define you

Working for yourself, in my opinion, is just easy, when you work for someone else, you will be more busy with your own time, leaving you with less time to focus on yourself or take care of all of your other needs. You must obey the company's policies, and if you are a sales boy, you have to provide the record to your boss at the end of the day. If the record is not comparable to what you sell, and you do not have a boss who understands, the amount is going to be removed from your salary.

According to your question, when you work for yourself, you do not have to provide a record for everything you sell or explain why some amount is not completed. Furthermore, I have seen many people who do not want to work for someone else since some jobs would take over all of your time with stress throughout the day, but as your own boss, you can enjoy your life, if you choose not to go to work, that is your choice.

Working for yourself is when you have the liberty of making decisions without being ordered.

Being self-employed doesn't mean you don't have to work, becoming self-employed makes you work harder, more reasonably, take/manage risk, and be vigilant.

If you think Taxi drivers are not self-employed, don't they have the right to decide which hour of the day they will come out for duty, unlike working for someone who controls your hours.

Simply put - when you work for yourself, you are not controlled by anyone, you are the boss.
You make the decisions, you are the manager, you make the rules - other people who are your subordinates work for you. As a business owner - you are already working for yourself where the result is to enrich yourself, but when you are still an employee, then you are working for someone else even though you are entitled to receive wages.

Anyone that is working to earn money is working for themselves to improve their life.  Traders still rely on trading platforms which is a business of other individual. How can they trade if those platforms didn't exist. Different trading platforms offers different benefits just to attract a user to use their platform. That's just the same as workers relying on other workers or business.

You've misunderstood the context if you say that everyone works for themselves to earn money and improve their lives, because the context is working for yourself, which means that you shouldn't have a boss or someone who you are working under who can give you orders and make you do things. It's true that everyone works for themselves or their loved ones, but we are talking about something else here.

You also mentioned trading and exchanges and said that trading isn't something we can call working for one's self, but no, trading is a type of work where you are working for yourself because it's you who does everything, it's your money, your decisions, and it's up to you about when you are going to make your trades and when you don't want to, and an exchange has nothing to do with it because you can always switch from one exchange to another since you have all the rights to withdraw your funds and use them somewhere else.

Working for yourself means having the freedom to do whatever you want, even in between your work hours, which we can't do when we are working for someone else.

I like that statement, not because you are not employed means you'll not going to work hard most of the being self-employed consume most of your time, you need to push more or grind more in order to earn decently, though the benefits is when you make things successfully then you can harvest the fruit of your hard work by accumulating money from the investment or business that you established.

It's the decision that you take matters, choosing your own path means you need to work on it in the best way that you can to make things to succeed.

What I understand by working for yourself is that you don't have a boss or someone  to detect how you do your business. A taxi driver can be working for himself when he drives his own cars and determined when he gets to go to work, come back or skip work for the day. When you don't have to wait on someone to pay you your monthly salary then you aren't working for anyone but yourself. Working for yourself isn't good for all individuals because some of us are lazy that we become not serious when we are working for ourselves.

This is why most self employed business people aren't successful because they're not focused and determination to succeed. Working for yourself is a difficult thing to do no matter how people make it feels like it's so easy to do. You have to be the one to force yourself to do the things that usually it's your boss that's always forcing you to do for the growth of the company.

In short, you are completely accountable of your own survival, and not relying for other people or someone to make you achieve your life’s goals. While other people work for their boss or employer, you are on your own and you have the full control over your life’s work and finances. With that, it can be said that you work for yourself, only to fulfill your own satisfaction and happiness in life.

According to my understanding, working for yourself means earning income from any of your businesses without depending on anyone or working under any organization before you succeed, working for yourself depends on your skills, plans and understanding of the business you should do and make something out of it, the most important thing before planning to work for yourself is to have the funds to start the business, working for yourself is very important because you can't feel any pressure from anyone because you are the boss of yourself and without no pressure and patient you can achieve your goals.

Having clients does not mean you aren't working for yourself since you cannot become both the producer and consumer of whatever services you and your establishment is offering. Owning a business venture is enough to be termed that you work for yourself, as long as you pay yourself and others.

You must offer services to people to make money and I do not think there is any business of any kind that do not need clients to thrive.

Mind you, times have changed and those who make better profits are the ones that prioritize customer satisfaction, most businesses does not really need to prioritize customer satisfaction to exist like schools, but on the long-run productivity would greatly decline if your clients aren't getting satisfaction from your services since they would choose to go where they are prioritized and satisfied.

Good point, you are not relying to anyone in terms of fulfilling your goals and you are not leaning to what they'll going to provide as you are the one who's looking for the way to fill your success, something that needs hardwork and dedication since there's no fixed income that you can expect but when things goes the right way it can fill up your needs and have decent excess for your future, it's your own decision making that matters for your future success in life.

Honestly this is more deeper than I thought and I must say that I don't think anyone is actually working for themselves because even the so called business owners, or hotel owners, or taxi owners at some point don't even follow instructions from their from their clients rather they have some certain companies rules and regulations which of course most customers may not be comfortable with, and there is no profitability without certification of their customers over times and that is to say in other words no one is actually working for themselves because their must be cooperation between both parties for fulfillment to take place.

Working for yourself simply means when you generate your income from your own hand work skill or idea without working for someone or an organization for the purpose of receiving salaries so whether  driver, carpenter etc could be categorized as been self employed.


Self employment means that you are generating your own money your self there is no job that you will do that you will not employ the services of people because one thing about business that we need to know is customers satisfaction so a customer directing you on what to do doesn't mean that you are been controlled infact the trading you made mention of is controlled by the market forces so anyone trading should be able to Read and understand the market very important

Working for yourself means that you are able and capable to put food in your table without putting your hope on any "boss" to provide for for you. Because this has been the major challenges most people are surfering today from their bosses just because they rely on them. Honestly nothing good as providing all your needs by yourself, no matter how little it might be but let it be that you can afford it easily without depending on someone.

In my view the meaning of the definition of working for yourself, can be interpreted like "entrepreneur" or the cool language is often mentioned, "self-enmployed" means someone works for themselves in Doing business and so do trade, the definition of the extent of them does not work for others or companies by getting a salary or wage.

Or another definition of the individual is responsible for overall behavior in various aspects of the business, such as finance, marketing, management and so on The goal is to benefit from themselves from their efforts, I think that is the definition of working for yourself.

One has to take responsibility for managing one's own life. As a result, a person will get complete freedom. If one manages one's life depending on others, there is no chance of being humanly happy. If a person depends on his boss, then he will be under pressure every moment, due to which he will never be happy in life.

When a person depends on himself, even if he is not very financially prosperous, he can lead a normal life, but those who depend on the boss or others will not get that freedom and happiness even if they have a lot of money. This is completely a matter of achievement. Those who depend on themselves can make relatively great progress at some point, but those who depend on others will remain confined within a certain limit.

In other words, if I take a conclusion from your statement, working for yourself will give us the opportunity to be more independent, flexible, and creative in honing the skills we have. Although we also have full responsibility for the success or failure that we will experience later. However, if this is planned well, our life goals will be achieved.

Because as explained, working alone will certainly give us freedom and we can manage our own work and time. We also don't need to follow the rules or orders of our superiors because we are the boss ourselves. The striking difference between working alone and being an employee is that working alone can get a greater income opportunity compared to being an employee, especially if we have more abilities and skills.

Traders can only exist because people are transacting and the constantly changing fortunes of businesses. Traders are not actually adding value anywhere, apart from vaguely helping to value businesses with buy and sell orders. Traders require volatility in the market in order to make the most money, when everything is stable and very little is moving, it becomes harder to make money. Becoming a successful trader is simply not possible for most people if we are talking about Forex, there's a reason they have disclaimers in every advert stating that 9 out of 10 people will lose money.

Most of the world recognises that a well run and managed business is working for yourself - you have to keep customers happy but customers also want the product or service you're selling too. You get to choose the direction of the business and if you have staff who manage it and get to a high enough earning threshold - you can step away from it as the team run it independently.

I guess that you are misinterpreting the term "self-employed" with "working for yourself".
Self-employed people are working for their customers, which means that you are right. Self-employed people aren't fully "working for themselves", but I guess that behind the words "working for myself" everyone means not having a boss. That's how capitalism works. You either work for a company, employer, boss, whatever you call it, or you are trying to find your own clients/customers without having to obey to a boss or company. At the end of the day, everyone is exchanging labor, skills goods and services for money. The only real way for you to "work for yourself" is to buy a piece of land, grow crops and vegetables and consume them without having to buy anything from anyone. ;D

I think working for yourself means living independently. Because if you work for yourself or if you start a business, you will have a complete account of how much profit you are making and how much loss you are making. You will not have to answer to anyone for this. And your profit and loss will depend completely on you. And I think that the one who works for others never finds his success, and the one who works for himself finds his success very soon in his life.

No? It has a double meaning the one you quoted and you are both correct.  There is no need to argue on this since the one you quoted simply states the literal meaning of working for yourself, for personal needs support, or for survival.  We work for  ourself simply means we work for money to support ourself which is also the same when we are self-employed, its that this time we are our own boss but still working to support our daily needs.


Not absolutely true, even if you are self-employed you cannot do whatever you want since it is your business, and you have a client that is more important than your freedom to choose time, you are forced to adjust to the time demanded by your client thus you do have the freedom that is limited somehow.

This is the power of being your own boss and taking care of your responsibilities by yourself without looking at anyone or depending on anyone for survival. If you are struggling to do all this it is far better than working your ass out and at the end you will be expecting another person to pay you peanuts for you to feed, financial freedom and living an independent life is the best way to live a happy life.

Working for yourself is dream of millions because this give good chance of having better things around you with you are working for yourself is always allowed staying independent because you are doing for yourself, and you have right to choose your all desires which are not possible while you are working for others, or you have things managed by others.
Here you can fix your salary as much you want you also have right to fix your timetable of working because you are not answerable to others for anything but still this is not easy because you need to start with your own funds, or you have to manage things for this as well.
Many youngsters around me having this desire but sadly mostly fail to do this because they are lacking funds or skills which allow them to do this while many those are capable are not having conditions which give them some better opportunity.

Different business have different ways of generating income. All the instances you dropped above, are all working for themselves. To generate money from any business you are doing, customer satisfaction has to be achieved. Before you make money from driving taxi, you need to satisfy the customer, so in the process of satisfying the customer you have to communicate with the client to know what they want from you, this is how to run the business of transportation. That the driver is receiving instructions from the client for the period the driver will spend with the client doesn't mean he's not working for himself. For me working for yourself is when you don't have to share the profit from the business with anyone, and you control your time and decide when to work and when not to work.

In my opinion, the term "working for yourself" means that a person has organized his work as a business.

He thinks in such categories as "commercial activity", "profit", "income", "expenses", "business profitability", "clients/customers". This is the difference between "working for yourself" and employment under an employment contract or agreement. A person working under an employment contract or agreement receives a salary, not dividends paid from profits. Accordingly, he does not bear the risks of entrepreneurial activity. His risks are that his immediate superior or the owner of the organization where he works will be dissatisfied with him.

Very often, an employee performs meaningless tasks, the meaning of which he does not understand. This often makes his work meaningless.

Nowadays there are many people who want to do their own work. But usually they cannot do business themselves because they do not have money. They do not have the money required to start a business, that is why they cannot do their own and live their lives independently. When a person focuses on his own business, he comes to live a simple life, and his employees should always be made comfortable. Nowadays, thousands of such people have chosen this job because they do not have money in their working life. Having your own business means that his life is open. Here if you can take your salary as much as you want and if you do not work here, you do not have to answer to anyone. In a word, if a person has his own business in his life, then his life is successful.

We all work for somebody. There is no such thing as having "no boss". Either we are working with clients who are our "bosses" or we work under a traditional boss. But either way we rely on something or someone to earn our money. Even Traders need other traders to make a profit, since whenever a trader makes a loss, someone else makes a profit. So there is no way around it.

So the people who claim to only work for themselves are saying it more as an ego thing than it being actually literal.

Indeed is a very big power being your own boss and taking good care of responsibilities rather than relying slowly on someone. Of course living an independent life is actually what every man's need. Though the world we are now is not good for a man to depend on someone because what people that doesn't something doing are facing from their bosses is very bad due to the fact that they didn't have any options than to stick to whatever thing that might comes out along the line.

Every business has its own marketing strategy even if you do not directly try to persuade people to patronize you. Through publications and advertisements are ways business owners entice their customers. They may not be consistently making advertisements of their business after they have gotten more customers but from time to time there is still need to publicize what they deal on. Taxi owners and hotel owners are offering services to the public so why won't they follow instructions from their clients just to ensure customers satisfaction.

Being a trader, either forex or cryptocurrency trader do not make you a business owner so i don't think they should be included even though it requires skills. Perhaps, those that calls themselves experts in trading and have made money from it still tries to persuade others into trading and charge them fees for tutorials. In social media, you see many traders trying to entice people to believe that they are successful traders with the aim of grabbing their attention. There are some jobs that don't require you seeking for any attention or patronage from any body before you excel in it but one way or the other at some point you will still need to work with people to ensure better results.

Actually you can be able to achieve things about on having no boss but only at the time that you do made out some passive likes investing into business and be your own boss but of course no one will be exempted if we do speak about risks since it will be always the thing on which you would be able to encounter no matter what. The only issue on here is about on how you would be able to obtain or achieve out such success on which we know that these are things that anyone wants to achieve but since there are factors or something that you do need up to apply or to to and plus having that success isnt something that you can be able to achieve or having that guarantee then it will be that still a very hard thing to achieve bt anyone. People ending up on sticking into their dayjob and live with paycheck to paycheck because they dont have any other options but to stick on where they are currently making up some money. There are just that those times that you do just give up the idea and just that live on what you do have now because you have been failing ever since on trying out to achieve up such goal. There are those who dont stop until they would be able to make it because they dont want to live for the rest of their lives on having a boss and wanting to have that kind of freedom. Some do succeed and some do fail, it will be basing up on how wise and good you are on making up some decisions but of course it will be still needing up some sort of luck even though this do need up some hard work but having no luck then everything will be useless. Work hard or take actions if you wanted to progress or achieve something, because you cant be able to achieve something if you dont have any idea on where you do go or trying out to achieve then there's no path that you will be taking on and you will be sticking on where you are now.

An achievement that everyone definitely wants to achieve. However, on the way, it is not as easy as turning the palm of your hand, and sometimes circumstances are not always on our side so that in the end we choose to work for other people, and depend on where we work.

And it sounds very beautiful when we are able to be our own boss. But in reality, not a few people complain because the business they run is experiencing obstacles, especially income problems, which sometimes make it impossible to add capital, to return the previous capital is still quite difficult. The difficulty of employment has forced them to enter the business world.

In this case, to be established by yourself, first of all you have to be deprived of their own people because there are many people who cannot see anything good. However, to move independently, you need your own money that you have to collect yourself. It will be quite complicated if it does not help from the family. However, there is no alternative to hard work because work is normalized and it is possible to move independently. Suppose you want to own an organization, you need to make it bigger and work hard then you do not have to be under anyone at one time. And you can live in happiness and peace.

There are several types of businesses and people are generating money from them according to their interest. Because there are healthy businesses in which you only drive your business according to the choice and desire of the customer as in the discussion the example of transport has been quoted. Because in this you cannot decide where to go and why or not about the time you only drive as per customer choice. And this is the key to a successful transport business to make your customers happy and satisfied. I think when your income depends on customer satisfaction service. You can't impose your personal will to the customer and the world is full of that living examples that you have to work on your clients needs not for yourself. if we take an example from the cuisine business it is very clear that you cook what the customer wants not what is your choice and taste. So generating money is all about the client's satisfaction.

Great example and from that scenario you'll be able to earned your compensation and most of the time you'll receive extra if you provide your service with a great satisfaction from a client, it's your hardwork that will be paid and will start establishing your communication and your connections with your customers the more you earned trust and satisfaction from your client the better outcome for your business, you need to keep your extra effort to bring more satisfied customers.

That is indeed something that must be done if you want to maintain your business or make your business more advanced in the future, which must be realized that working for yourself does not mean ignoring others, in fact we must be able to do many things for others so that the same thing will come back to us.
If we only focus on ourselves, we will tend to be selfish and it does seem that way, but there is a science that we can use to benefit ourselves in anything including business, namely providing a positive impact on others who use it will come back to ourselves

That is not completely true, because only having a business doesn't mean your life is successful, but having a successful business means that your life is successful. There are so many business owners who are struggling to keep up with the business because their businesses aren't doing so well and they are barely able to get much revenue from them, so they run the business only to keep their kitchen running but they aren't getting anything on top of that that they could either save or invest somewhere else.

Even though it's not actually easy, starting a business is probably the easiest part because you can start a business if you have the resources, but managing and scaling that business is the difficult part. Anyone can start a business by either taking a loan or borrowing funds from friends and relatives, but only a few can make their businesses worth more than they were initially and scale them up over time. That's what makes you successful in life.

This is why it's said that one should only get into a business that they understand because it makes it easier for them to manage it.

In terms of making our own business more advanced, it is necessary to have more interactions with various parties because the business will be easier to develop when there is interaction with several parties, especially if the party is a customer who often uses products from the business that we are running so far. Because there is a saying that says if we want to walk faster, then walk alone but if we want to walk further, then walk together. This means that in building a business to become more advanced, we must have more partners so that the business becomes more famous and can survive in the long term.

The title describes that people are not doing work for theirselves and reason is they are working for any other person who is not giving much benefit to them . People should start their own business and should learn marketing which is important for any business. Marketing is best tool if you want to be wealthy at that time . But people are habitual to do work for other person and they want stability in life which is possible by job but business could not be stable because always market conditions change and relationships with other countries also effect.Big business owners know the strategies how to double and triple money but small business owners and so called educated people don't know this secret.

Whatsoever it may be,so long as you can create you own income, decisions and opportunities,your success is dependent on your efforts, hardwork, choices and strategy, it's a responsibility that doesn't need to be second guessed.

Well explained, every single point you mentioned in what you are saying are the reasons why people prefer to be self employed... Making Profit and managing a firm or company by yourself means that you are working your way to become wealthy...to become self employed isn't easy, it takes a lot of planning and effort but at the same time you can achieve something even though it might seem small

These factors are very important for the success of any business, not just leadership. Customer satisfaction is the primary goal of every business, and I want to focus on this point in general, not in a specific business. The market research should include a complete assessment of the target niche, including its purchasing power, its need for the product, and the nature of the competition. There are some products or services whose customers are companies or institutions, not individuals. This niche is more comfortable for those who want to avoid dealing with people, but the product/service must be carefully researched because these markets are highly competitive.

Very well, that is why I always tell young self reliance people that, you should never underestimate your little achievements, because on the long term, there are going to be a great achievement for you, if you combine all together, what is important is that being self employed comes with alot of responsibilities and at that, we need to build the capacity to manage ourselves through.

Being self-employed usually means that someone establishes and manages their own business and earns their own income directly from their own labor. However, this is not complete independence. Because interaction with people is inevitable for value creation and sustainability. Without interaction, there is no interaction with people, and this is how value is created with the human factor.

The degree of independence varies depending on the business model and personal preferences, this depends entirely on your business model.

If they do not need to attract customers like coming to their shop then what is the meaning of a business that they build and of course the business owner will never achieve success. Working in general has a definition to get money so that from the work process that we are engaged in, it can provide certainty in the process of supporting life. Everyone works for money even though the amount of income can vary because we are aware that to live life in this world, money is needed as a support.

We will not get money for free without working and even if there is, it may only be to a certain extent. That is why we need to work and ensure that life can be much more sufficient to be fulfilled and in that way we can determine a much better step in life.

We have to work and become either an employee, a businessman or self employed as they say. Everything has an exchange now and that's why the lazy ones don't earn anything at all. If they don't work for themselves, they will work for someone else. And those that have understood that they need to work for their own so that they will be the boss of their time, they are finding themselves the ways for them to earn with the skills that they have.

Shop owners who do not try to attract customers to their stores will make their stores deserted and of course will be deserted by buyers until they can end in bankruptcy. Because at this time there are many competitors who open similar businesses with quite different services so that there is a more attractive impression in order to be visited by many people. So any business owner at this time must be smarter and also more aggressive in carrying out promotions and services that can attract everyone's interest so that they can be superior in terms of competing and also will not go bankrupt just because there are no visitors to their place of business.

Working for yourself has a very broad meaning, it doesn't matter what your profession is as long as you can make money. Business owners, taxi owners, hotel owners, traders, construction workers and so on expect the same end result, which is to make money. Everyone has different professions and skills, but as long as they get paid for what they do, that is the definition of working for yourself.

In my opinion,working for yourself means being your own boss and running your own business,where you manage and oversee all aspects.One key advantage is the potential to become an employer,hiring and managing your own team.An entrepreneur oversees all aspects of their business, managing associated risks and carrying the weight of being the'boss.'While they may have a personal assistant,the assistant's role is subordinate to the entrepreneur's leadership position.Similarly,in a school setting, a director holds a higher authority than a headmaster,overseeing overall operations while the headmaster assists in executing specific tasks.

There are many people in the World they are thinking that they are working for theirselves as they are doing business but they have limited time and limited employee. There are many people who are Investing their time on development of skills and they also think that they are doing work for theirselves. But they made only small shop and they are proprietor but they are not businessman. Employee life is Worse than everyone because he has no free time to enjoy and he will work according to instructions of boss . People are doing jobs and they are habitual to do jobs . Big business owners always work to establish network and they always try to take work from more people and they always try to take loan from government and that is reason they are called rich people and they know how to invest money on useful things.

Yeah, handling your own business or operating as a headmaster, you are the one who got the final say as you operate on your own decision making, the best thing is when you made your success it brings comfort and really a profitable place for you, though at beginning it's not an easy access as it will be a rough and tough road while starting your own operation but once success take place you'll be able to earn huge compensation from that hardwork that you convert to a successful business ownership.

There is difference between when your money works for you and when you work for your own money. Most of the things that you mentioned like the hotel owners, business owners it's their money that work for them while taxi drivers works for there money because if they don't drive people, they wouldn't be able to make money, they need to put their energy in to be able to make money but they are doing it at their own accord and convenience time.

The people that do 9-5 depend on where they work, if they don't go to work, they don't get paid. If they skip any work day, they get fine unless they took permission and if the permission is really granted. This is what differentiate working for yourself to make money and working under someone. There is no way you will want to work for another person and think you are going to have any peace of mind, even the days you are sick, you will be afraid of what they might do to you, unlike when you haven your own establishment.

Working for yourself means being your own boss, you make the decisions and you answer to no body but yourself. Working for yourself involves an increased workload and you are solely responsible for all aspect of your business and regardless of the workload I will choose working for myself than having a 9-5 job because self-employed gives me the freedom to set my own schedule and even earn higher.

A lot of people need to realize that the opportunities to create wealth isn't in the 8 to 5 jobs that are working. I'm not saying it's bad to work such jobs but if we want to tell ourselves the truth no one can get rich from such jobs. The richest men in the world are business men and entrepreneurs... financial freedom comes when you are no longer making money for someone else but you do it for yourself

How beautifully everything sounds in your words. But what is it really like? When there is no boss who gives instructions and tasks for work, then you have to make an action plan yourself, which takes not only a lot of time and effort, but also precious time, and it is an invaluable resource. You also have to adhere to a strict schedule every day. You just can’t do without it. You should also forget about the fact that you can’t do without discipline. This is very important. Not all people on the planet agree to such conditions. Working for yourself is no easier than being hired. Don’t let other people tell you fairy tales.

If we have never worked in someone else's place, then building a business instantly will not be a success and that is why experience can be said to be the best teacher for people to learn. Everyone needs a job to make money even though the procedures are different, but in general people work to make money as an effort to support the life they live. Being a boss is not easy because we need to build from the bottom first so that slowly the business we are engaged in can achieve success.

That's not just talking about shop owners because even workers will not get a comparable salary when their shop is quiet and in the end the shop owner is forced to fire people who work because of the difficulty of paying salaries or other operational costs. Owners and jobs have a relationship because both are people who will make the business grow, as an example that we often find and if workers are not friendly and are not able to serve purchases well, the shop will eventually be deserted. Competitors will take advantage of the weaknesses of other shops and that's why building a business is not an easy thing to do if someone doesn't have experience, strategy or other support.

Your point is well taken and very considerable one because people are of different discipline and those who only like an already established protocol that is carried out by another person and only tell them what to do in getting there job done is what they like most, so actually this set of people sees or feels that there is so much mental work in becoming the boss of there own because there wouldn't be any activities he will not be present, while in other words alot of people undermines the overwhelming schedule a business owner will go through and only want to be such person, so actually there is so much privilege in becoming your own boss which is the best.

For me personally working for myself is when I do anything for my own good. Being a hotel owner or business owner then of course you must be able to provide the best service to your consumers. That is not being a slave to others. For me when my business makes people happy and interested in what I offer means I have given value to myself. And improving skills, knowledge and health is a form of working for yourself. If you are a driver then you are a driver who knows all the streets in the city. If you are a hotel owner then you know how to make people like you. And if you are a businessman then you know the problems that people face and your product is the solution. Yes for me working for myself is you continue to add value to yourself every day.

Working for yourself simply means, working at your own ease, you do what you want, when you want it, make your own decisions and rules without carrying out instructions from any superior as you are your own boss.

Even the traders are also people who buy and sell in order to make profit, most of them might not own a physical shop or have a stand where they need to wait for customers sha! As a staff working for another there's no room for mistake, and suggestions. All you do is carry out instructions being laid down. You go to work even the days you don't feel like but working for yourself is the opposite. This one you find passion and fulfillment in what you do, making sure people get the value for their money even if the aim is to make profit and then satisfy your customers as well.

Working for yourself means that you get to make independent decisions in your business, when you don't take any orders or directions from a superior on how to run the affairs of your business. Your aim is to satisfy your customers by giving them value for their money, in marketing I will say that customer is king because they pay you money, without them your business will flop. Satisfying your customers doesn't mean that they own or control you, you can choose how you want to run your business and if a customer is happy with it they will patronze you. Except money is gifted to you, through inheritance or you picked it up by chance you need to work for your money, whether you are working for yourself or others.

Working for yourself is always dream of every person who want to be live better life by his own but it's never been easy because things are getting worse and, in this case, need strong mind with ability to handle things which is never been easy for everyone.

I watch many peoples those try this, but they have fallen because they were not well aware all aspects of working by yourself and done few mistakes which hurt them and their cause few things are by nature and many needed to be learned through experience in life skills are always important without having any good skills no one can go through. Small shopkeeper can go down if he is not understanding things around him always well-prepared for things which you are going to do then jumps in many love to stay like 9 to 5 because they feel comfortable with this and also try to manage things which increase their life depth, but they still had to stay by themselves.

Working for my yourself mean, you are the one that will take any action in your business without waiting for any permission by any one. Working for your self always come hard if you didn't look for partners sometimes because you can't be controlling everything you need to have helper that will be supporting you to take care of your business you are doing. And again you need to look for someone that have the knowledge of the business you are doing so that he can make your business move smoothly, because if not you will always lose, if you try to handle everything by your self without getting the knowledge, that is why many people fall when trying to do everything by there self. in my opinion I will prefer to have partner to run a business with when have understood everything well I can probably do my own single one but still I need to look for someone to take care of it for me.

That is why they say that experienced managers know how to delegate their responsibilities to other subordinates, for whom to completely exclude themselves from the business chain of responsibilities and calmly relax in Bali. It turns out that the only responsibility of an experienced manager is to find excellent and responsible subordinates who can run a good business without him and send him reports, based on which this manager will only occasionally make small adjustments.

I remember very well my fear of failure when I quit my permanent job and started working for myself.
I was constantly thinking about whether I would be able to earn money tomorrow. Whether I would be able to earn money in a month, because my income was completely unpredictable and unstable. But if someone earns like that, they won’t be able to take out a mortgage on an apartment. And if they start a family, they won’t be able to provide them with a completely predictable income. Working for yourself is a big risk, and not everyone is ready for it. However, the reward in terms of freedom and good earnings is worth it.

Is this what is called waking up to work and sleeping to rest?

My friend who works as an employee in a factory, his days are only filled with work, waking up before sunrise and going home after it is dark and it can be said that he does not know the sun lol.
In my opinion, employees like this are indeed one of the groups of people who work for themselves, sometimes they work like this because their family's economic situation does not allow it so they have no choice but to spend their days just working.

It is not failure that scares us, but fear that makes us fail. Therefore, keep moving forward and keep trying because we will never know how the results will be. So just enjoy the process, the problem of results will come later because it all depends on the process.

Unlike when we were still employees, when we run a business, it is natural that every day we are always confused about the problem of income every day or month, because there is no guarantee that tomorrow we will make a profit. But on the other hand, one thing we must remember, isn't this freedom what we have always wanted, having a job without pressure from anyone, and we must fight for it, we must fight for every step we have taken. Failure is part of the plan, but that is not a reason for us to stop trying.

Is very funny, though we are use to seeing people with this kind of jobs that doesn't give them room to do anything because all there days are very occupied do to the time they go to work and come back because from the time you also mentioned is only in the night such person will have time for anything outside work, actully because of a limited time for other activities alot of people i no have quite there jobs because of it, perhaps that's why Remote jobs has taking a large part of traditional jobs because it gives them all the privileges they are supposed to have naturally and making it easy for them to work and not even felt negative impact on there body.

Working for yourself can be view in so many perspective, it all depends on how we all see it in our respective ways.

I see working for my self as an opportunity of having total control of my time, resources, finances, peace of mind etc. I can see post that says hence you still depend on customer opinion or pin down by satisfying people before get paid is still considered not working for yourself. Capital NO! there is no businesses that do not depend on customer they are like a pillar to every business so we all need them to grow.

However, hence I got my peace of mind no yes boss or madam stuff am cool , I carry out my business at my convenience time without no stress or high tension am fine and I considered it working for my self. Thank you

The generation today values work-life balance. And with us having a peace of mind, this only means that we're on the right track. While the others are overworking for the businesses of others and also of themselves, they're forgetting to protect their peace and sanity. We have to keep ourselves sane as we work because we're working to live and not living to work. So in all aspects that we can work on for ourselves, for the betterment of our skills, peace and anything that's necessary, we have to keep it that way.

That's the rat race. We've been there and if we choose to live like this, we'll be working all of the days of our lives and then will only get home just to get to a sleep.

If they are happy to live like that, they don't need to change anything at all. It's true that it has to start somewhere from the status of their family's income and living but it doesn't end there. If they want to change their lives, they need to start changing their mindsets and start building and executing their dreams outside their work stations.

Of course they are working for themselves because they don't have anyone bossing them around so they are the direct person's to their customers unlike some employers that got employee that works under their orders. It doesn't seem the way you're thinking cause everyone needs a customer audience for their business or job be it an employer or employee. So working for yourself means you're in charge and a direct playlist to your customers.

I work for myself, and I would and could never go back to a traditional employment position. Once I got used to making lump sums in amounts bigger than my previous paychecks, it's hard to rationalize it even with the volatility. For me, working for myself means prioritizing/managing my time, and investing wisely so I eventually don't have to do anything I don't want to do, and I can just continue to both build and live off of my wealth.

I have friends with six-figure incomes whom are house poor. I have friends that make less than half of that, but manage to save and invest more than the above group. The older I get, the more I see the wisdom in "It's not what you make, it's what you save".

For me, I'm saving/managing my time and making more money, so it's a no-brainer.

I myself have also been in a phase like this, and one time I chatted with my friend he suggested that I could get out of it and make my dreams come true, as a result I decided to quit my job and take my own path to open a business that I wanted. Although the business failed and did not last long, there was a lesson that I learned where I was lacking in preparation for the business that I was running.

I realized that continuing to stay in a job like that where I wake up to work and go home to rest might not change my life, just enough to meet my daily needs, so taking a bold step to get out of my comfort zone is sometimes necessary.

Yup, you alone who deals with your client unlike with working for an employer where you are just expecting to be paid for a certain job that you are doing for them, working for yourself means that you are the boss of your own and all the direct order also comes from you, the good catch, you also the one who will enjoyed all the compensation once your business got succeeded.

Absolutely. Working for yourself means does not mean you don’t involved customers to make your business or job works, customers are always necessary, but it only means you are on your own business, you are the boss of your own, so whatever that will happen on your business lies everything on you, on how you handle your own business without putting other people in charge of it, but only you.

Your life’s survival isn’t dependent on others, but only you. You don’t have to impress your boss so that promotion will be waiting ahead, and you don’t have to invest on your time a lot, otherwise your boss will not acknowledge your performance.

You are on your own now, your life’s growth and progress are all yours to deal. Simply put, you set your own limits and boundaries on your own business or job, and whatever that you think will make your work more fulfilling and rewarding, you can always maximize doing it.

You are fully responsible for whatever job you have, business or anything else in which you are the number one person.
After all, each user may have their own meaning regarding the OP's question. In general, working for yourself is enriching yourself like a boss who leads a company or business. You are the boss of the company you lead, the business runs on your responsibility and rules, this is also called entrepreneurship.

Working for yourself means the results are for yourself, but we are fully responsible for whatever consequences may occur in the future. Many people are racing to work for themselves instead of being employees forever, this is good but everyone is not created to be a boss.

Your right working for yourself doesn't mean that will be independent of others because everyone is connected you need others to succeed in what ever that you do because you working for yourself means that you have to create value so that others can buy into it that is how wealth is really created


Working for yourself means that you will have to be creative and think about something unique that you will have to offer

This is actually what makes a private business or investment profitable because you are working for yourself and not answering to anybody... unlike working for someone working for yourself gives you the opportunity to make more money and save money as well. A self employed doesn't mean that you are free or totally independent, the economy is also something to you should consider

Some people make this rocket science comment as if when you are self employed, you can do without others, but that is far from the truth, unless for those that have retired and have a lot of none physical assets like Bitcoin that doesn't require much physical work to keep it investment going.


But if you are into other physical business or investment such as Real estate and the rest, you must have to work extra hard to meet up with demands and making sure that all measures are employed to keep you on the top make a lot of sense to a self employed someone.

I always thought that greatest advantage of self working is being able to carry over costs from one year to the next to levy against taxes whenever possible.   Now you can start up a business and invest in yourself at least in theory though the practice is harder then just saying it.

You're better than the majority who just like to stick to their plans. You took chances and the risk and it's hard to have that guts to do it when you don't know what will happen in the end. You failed? that's fine, most even don't even bother to try. You're learning for every failures that you get in life and the guts you're having is getting stronger for experiencing those.

This is true and that bold step that you've made even you didn't succeed at the beginning is opening the idea that there's more to life, there are ways that you can defeat the rat race.

Working for yourself mainly means that you are your own boss (No one is controlling you and your time). This doesn't translate to whether or not you are serving people for one product/service. And of course, you can't earn money if you don't deal with people (Individual, Government or company).

You need people, you can't patronise yourself to build a successful business. That is why marketing is even thriving.

I understand you so well. I faced these same problems several years ago, when I first tried to work for myself after being laid off from my job. At that time, I had an incredible fear of the unknown, which even paralyzed me for some time. I was not sure that I would be able to switch from one reality to another. I have never experienced such panic fear. It seriously undermined me, to be honest. It took months to get my work in order and accept the new reality. I never thought that working for yourself is as hard as being hired. There is nothing easy about it. Yes, there are advantages. You have already written about them.

Many people have experienced such things and if you remember, maybe everyone also has the same fear, but what must be realized now is that it is not as difficult as imagined, we can still freely do anything and if there is a great desire to find money then we can do it anywhere as long as we are consistent and sure to do it.
Problems like this only exist when we don't do something, so don't think too negatively and do something that allows us to rise in the future, I'm sure everyone can do it.

So true that working for yourself gets glamorized to the point of parody. If every YouTube ad is to be believed, we are all supposed to have empires by the time we are 25. But the reality is way less binary. Of course, you are the owner of your results and failures. That is the purest form of agency. But agency isn’t the same as happiness, or even financial security. So what  does “responsibility” actually mean when the macro factors (regulation, platform algorithms, just bad luck) can burn your plans to ashes overnight? Selling people on “total control” in an ecosystem you don’t actually control

The founder life is not coded in everyone. It is this mass delusion that fulfillment is to be found in mastery, or cooperation, or simply not having your neck on the line every time. What is so shameful in that? The discussion of work remains stuck in this boss vs employee dialectic, but the world has become more granular. Individuals establish micro-businesses, gather gigs, switch between roles. The old hierarchies are dissolving, but the pressure to perform is more intense than ever

You wrote that you can work anywhere. But is it really so? No, it is not. Many businessmen and entrepreneurs are tied to a place and they do not have the opportunity to leave their business for even a moment, since without control everything can very quickly fall apart.

Who has access to such a privilege? Those who work online. For example, these are freelancers. They are definitely not tied to a place. I have seen many people who travel the world and work when it is convenient for them. Yes, such a lifestyle is really attractive, but it still takes a lot of effort to get there. Believe me, not everything is as simple as it seems.

I think that ultimately everyone likes a job that requires a little communication with other people. According to surveys of psychologists, many note that they are stressed at work not so much by the responsibility or physical labor as by the fact that such workers are forced to communicate with others, often strangers. And unfortunately, need often forces even introverts to contact others.
Therefore, everyone dreams of working exclusively for themselves and being their own boss.

Unfortunately it is just a point of view, we never work for ourselves, but we work for the people around us, human character has nothing to do with this, whether he is an introvert or not, but humans are social creatures, either with humans or with nature, that's how we live in this world.

Even if you are a boss, you will work for the interests of others for your business to run, in essence humans cannot work for themselves.

Most jobs related to services require good service so that customers feel satisfied, this is not only affiliated with work at the corporate level but opening a vehicle dosmir also really needs friendly service. This is not talking about other service sectors and even taxi owners who follow instructions from their clients also need friendly service so that their clients can be comfortable in the car they are riding in.

But if the context is simplified, then working is only one of the requirements to meet the needs of life because we will get money from work, only maybe the way is different because the work that is done is also different. If building a business, then what is processed is how the business can grow so that satisfaction is needed for the service.

Maybe what you want to say is never stop trying and working according to the abilities and skills that we already have while continuing to upgrade ourselves and also learning new things that can bring knowledge in order to be able to see new opportunities in the future. Now stopping when you have failed once is not the best option because for people who still have the ability to continue moving on the right track, then clearly there is no need to complain except for just taking a short break to recharge before going back to work again.

Stopping because you ha e failed once is not a good idea because those who quit doesn't gets to see the chances of winning and bouncing back big so we should not give up simply because we failed once or twice



Consistency is one characteristics that has kept winners going because one thing that is common among winners is that they don't give up but is consistent with what they are doing despite initial failure

Working for yourself means that you are not accountable to anyone else, meaning that you are in charge of your own business. In this case, you can be considered solely self-employed and you do not have to answer to your boss for your work. Working for yourself means a lot of freedom and you are the owner of your own company. It can basically be thought of as an entrepreneur or business where you are in charge of your entire company and have employees under you. You are your own boss.

It's true however, the freedom part is only true to certain extent.

Yes we have the freedom to be working or not, depend on our mood since it's our business but if we truly living off the business and the business is still on its early stage and developing, it's gonna be a tough time to have freedom at that time.

My first hand experience is that starting a business, working for ourselves will cause us to work much more often and have less leisurely time than being employed.

However, the big difference is that we're trying to achieve our dream, not paid to do something for other people.

Early stage and developing doesn't make sense been a taxi driver like one of the examples that OP used, what is developing have to do with driving people from one location to another and getting paid?

Some businesses are just rendering services to people and getting paid in return, there is no development attached, some jobs don't even need skills like software engineering, just learn how to drive and start doing it to make money, the end.

Alsmost everyone knows how to drive but many don't have the time or a car, but to get to their work places they need a taxi, freedom for example comes with choices we make.

For some, they choose freedom only when millions are already made, breathing in the bank or other businesses, while some dome even bother, they think more about death than been alive, they work base on their own effort or energy on that day, how much they make or must make doesn't worry them.

This is true, people who have started or run their own business will understand this better than anyone. When we work for ourselves (become our own boss), we will have to work more, have greater responsibilities and will also face more challenges and risks. It is not as easy or leisurely as when we work for someone.

Everything has its price, if we want to have things that others don't have, we need to go through and do things that others can't. If we want to be a boss, become rich...we need to work hard, sacrifice  and make trade-offs because those things don't come naturally.  That’s the price we have to pay, and as you said, we’re trying to achieve our dreams, not realizing someone else’s dreams.

People always talk about freedom and that thread is also about that . There are very less people on earth who are living without any boss. There are only 1 percent people know how to get freedom in life and how they will work for theirselves. Otherwise,we are watching people who are thinking about freedom and they think that they are free but they are doing a lot of things fir the owner and theya re living life like a slave . From that kind of life , death is better because life of slave is worse than everything because he can't do anything by his own mind and he have to obey the owner order.There are investors who are doing no work and they are Investing money but everyone can't be investor. We want to start own business and that is not an easy for middle class people.

Exactly, very appropriate for what you said because everyone who has been able to run their own business, then that person is very worthy to be considered their boss (regardless of whether there are employees or not). Because as you said, where the person is not responsible to anyone else even though he has to be responsible for the business that he manages completely, but that is a very natural thing because all the profits from the business can also be used by himself and he manages it himself for other needs too. So clearly there is independence in this matter because all sectors must be controlled by oneself including paying employees if there are employees that he uses in the business.

Yes, it’s true that working for yourself does give you the complete freedom to choose what work you take on but I feel it goes much deeper than just being your own boss or running your own business.

Working for yourself is when you choose to do work that aligns with your interests, passions, and life goals. It’s not just about making money or gaining status but about getting personal satisfaction and meaning from what you do. You invest your time and energy not just into the business but into yourself as a person, your growth, happiness, and future.

When you reap the rewards and know it is solely by choice and through your actions, that is when feeling of “working for oneself” feels real.

By working for yourself I don't just mean that you are not working under someone else.
Rather, I think that working for yourself refers to those professions where a person is not under someone else, and he has no specific obligations like 8am to 5pm office etc and of course at the same time he likes to do those things as you said, which will be his passions in addition to being his job.
ANd the last, I think working for yourself is only possible when the person loves their work as well as their job.

I think that's not a major issue, and the survey probably only was conducted among people who are working in a field where they exclusively have to communicate with other people during their work hours, but in so many jobs, you don't need to do that, but people still get tired after some time, and it's mostly because of the heavy workload and a lack of proper appreciation. The corporate life is not easy, you will be asked for a shit load of work, and when it comes to increment or bonuses, you barely get enough, and that's what pisses people off.

That being said, working for yourself and being your own boss is a privilege not everyone gets. You can't just start doing something of your own and start making money off of it immediately, and that's why when someone decides to do such a thing, they will need to plan ahead, and must have some back up, especially funds that can support them during the time when they are not making a penny from what they are trying to do or build.

People are trying to be business owner which is not an easy for anybody because they have to save money and have to sell any asset to start a business but it is not guaranteed,this business will be successful or not . There are thousands of people who have dream to do their own business but they are not able to start a business but many people started a business but they could not be successful to run the business and shut the business after 2 to 3 months and now they are ready to do job for a company which is taking lot of time to give small amount of money.But it is dream and it could be true if someone will take step early and will take experience to start a business and will get knowledge about business and he will master the skills which are required.

Anything that is coming into the business account belong to you, and only you know what to do with the income that is coming into the business account which you have the authority to use the income to create another business that will increase your income. You can decide the type of customers you want to see around your business, and nobody will question you for your decision because you are the owner of the business, which you will not take decision that will make the business to collapse in the future, Freedom is guaranteed when you are working for yourself because anything you do or decide is what that will give you freedom to do the business for long years to remain successful.

Working for yourself mean freedom and being independent,  but even with the freedom and independence ,you still need clients to make profit in your chosen business. The reason why I said it means freedom and independence is that you don't have people bossing you around or telling you what to do, when to resume and when to close. You definitely make all this decisions yourself, but like I said earlier you need your client to make profit and grow your business,  so they are your priority and it's your duty to deliver what they want, but that does not mean you are being bossed around by them. You can either decide not to work with a customer, but I don't think that's good for any business,  since your business depends heavily on them. But you have to find a balance to also command your respect from your clients.

Working for yourself means being in constant stress, when no one promises that you will be paid tomorrow. When someone works for you, like private entrepreneurs, they rely only on their skills and each action is accompanied by thoughts "have I really done everything so that success will come tomorrow?". It is difficult.
Of course, I mean beginning businessmen, and not those who are already working well and making a profit. But success may not come even in the first three years.

That's the key word "freedom" to decide without consulting or you are the decision maker to where you'll going to direct your business, the full responsibilities are all task upon you, if you succeed then you'll gain all the advantage while if you fail then you need to accept the consequences, it's you that will drive the success or the failure of your own business, the good catch if you made it right then you'll harvest that full comfort of your benefits.

Yes, you’re right with your point of view,working forself doesn’t mean being isolated from people or completely independent on your own because the clients are your market target,you need them for the market to thrives,as such you solely depend on them for market value and profits maximization.
 
To me working forself is you been incharge of the market,in terms of time management,paying yourself salary and making some wise decisions which will gear or move the business forward.

Yes, but there is a big difference. Working for yourself usually means you get to choose your clients (people), whereas when youre just an employee, your "clients" are essentially your employer and their demands, and you have little to no say in who you work with or what projects you take on.

Working for one self means self dependency and reliances that don't require external control of how the affairs of your business is controlled, you decide, you mastermind and  control everything be it a hotel, car driving etc . Working for your self means working at your convenience without fear of any person. working for your self can also be assumed to be self employed where you make production of a particular goods and services and people fully depend on you for survival and employment. When u work for your self you are just a CEO meaning chief executive officer that has the power to access, appoint, approve and disapprove any time without objection from any.

A very good question indeed.

If you own your business, I don't think it's incorrect to say you work for yourself just because you still have customers to please.
But I think owning a business is much overrated in terms of the difference between that and working on an employment contract. Often times, the latter is much better (especially in jurisdictions with extensive employee protection laws).

Let's take a simple example: You are a full-time cleaner employed by ABC Ltd to clean its office Vs. you own a cleaning business, i.e. you still do the same job but as self-employed. In both cases, the work that you do is exactly the same, but, as an employee, you get holiday allowance, sickness leave and a legal protection against unfair dismissal (depending on the jurisdiction of course) among other benefits. In the self-employed scenario, you would ususally get more payment on hand, but you would be responsible for all the national insurance, pension contributions and making provisions to cover for any absence, but you would get very little protection from the conrahent not paying you on time or from them terminating/or not renewing the contract.

People like to think that "owning a business" is some holly grail that automatically grants you more freedom since you have no boss telling you what to do, but, in practice, is often the opposite, especially when you're dependent on one or few major clients who might have much higher and maybe even unrealistic expectations as compared to having a boss.

Working for yourself simply means you are your boss, you don't take orders from other people, people work for you and you pay them.what ever profit you make at the end of the day belongs to you. You close when you want to and open for the days business when you like. It's all about you. If the business that you are bossing improves it's all on your shoulders if it doesn't it's all on your shoulders too.

I dont think the phrase literally means what it reads. Everyone works to make ends meet for themselves and the people who depend upon them, that is usually family members.

But if you want to mean it like that you are the owner of some business pr venture then you can put it like that too. That is one thing where you have a lot of responsibilities of all the people working under you and getting people recruited in your company.

What so ever business you are doing it is people who patronize you that makes it grow, working for your self simply means that you are the CEO of your self, no body orders you around are asked you why you came late to work instead you are in a position to ask those questions.
People work for you and you get them paid that's what I understand by the term working for your self, those who are also working for you are actually working for themselves too because they get their bills settled with what they earn at the end of the week or month.

The concept of work is absolutely individual for each person and if for someone work has an absolutely negative connotation associated with the fact that you have to get up very early and go or drive to the office in any weather, spending several hours on it, then for another work is a way of self-discipline and earning money. Not everyone hates their job.
And many people think that if they go into business, they will have to work only for themselves, which means it will be easy. But in fact, many people later admit that making independent decisions and being responsible 100% of the time is much harder than working for someone else.

Self employment is the best approach to archive once objectives or goals irrespective of the fact that it requires disciplinary measures and sacrifice to get to the destined point in once life. Although some people prefers working for others because of lack of capital which is the propelling force in every business which at times lead to lost of dreams and target in life without knowing it takes sacrifice to get to once destined path.
Its clear that it takes more time and sacrifice to get to the top when one is not buoyant financially but with discipline, perciviarance and commitment, getting to the top becomes once personal decision to sacrifice one greatest source of joy.
 

it is the way we understand our things that will make us to reason that working for yourself is a less something, for me anyone who is working for itself that person is a self-employed and you are a business owner from my own understanding so anyone who is not working under government or working under anybody but have materials and business that is giving him a return of money in weeks or months, I believe that that person is self-employed and that person is capable of handling the situation at hand because is not being based in government resources or based in any person's payment

Absolutely right, because there is a layer of people who do not like to have a boss over them and try to set up their own business - work for themselves - so that it would depend entirely on their capabilities, and at the same time they would have their own free schedule, as well as unlimited payment for their work.
And this is probably the most wonderful thing: that there is no salary or hourly rate. There is only the law: how much you sell is how much you will receive, even if the reward in the end is tens of thousands of dollars.

One key to wealth is freedom, you are not being restricted to a particular place for a period of time like people that work a 9 to 5, and you can do whatever you like whenever you are pleased, this is one of the benefits of being self employed...people who work under someone don't really work for themselves, they work under someone and do the tasks and activities the person requires them to do and they get paid in return for their services rendered

There are so many things you start to gain as a self employed person aside the freedom you get working for yourself you also have the decision to make for the things you want and the things which you don't want when you are your own boss. Working for yourself gives you the liberty and motivation to work extra hard knowing that the profit and loss comes to you if the business turns out well or bad.

Wouldn't that depend on what those goals are? If someone's goal is to be a good parent to their kids, it sometimes could pay off more to have a job and not stress about everything that comes with the company.

While being an entrepreneur might bring freedom, it also might bring you need to work constantly, and from experience i can tell that it's very hard to take "holidays" if you choose to be an entrepreneur. No matter how big your company gets, you likely want to have oversight about most of the things in it.

Plus side is that if you love it, you love working. But not being able to take time for everything else is huge minus for me.

You got some point here but when you say some good approach to wealth is freedom, I will want to get your point, is it in the aspect of one being versatile in what he or she does or being able to get some contacts and business plans personal and act on them with our being restricted by anyone, although being caged by employee is one of the easiest way to get poor, is just like knowing your worth and being paid peanut for same, people stress out themselves while working for an employer that stagnates their growth by making them feel that he or she is paying them much while in those employers mind, they are just playing with their intelligence because they know that they are actually doing well but wouldn't want to say it out so that they don't see reason to think otherwise, although the truth is that people should learn how to start saving once they get a job no matter how small and never have the mindset to work in a place forever to avoid being stucked.

For me working for yourself doesn't necessarily mean depending on people to meet up with profit making, because the expectations from customers simply explains the channel of marketing distribution from producers to the end users so obviously it's like a cycle that works on reapitition either if the stages invariably depends on the other because talking about business owners and starting from the producers the goods were made for end users and until the produced goods gets to the end users the distribution process has failed so looking at it from this view I think everyone is actually dependent on the other for survival.

Working  for your self in my own understanding simply means running your own personal business, not working under any firm or any company own by someone else but you are running your own personal business.

Over the years many folks has realize  that working for yourself (running your own business) is the fastest way to achieve life time wealth in life, you hardly see any successful person that was able to achieve success through working for someone else,  no matter how hard you try if you are not careful you die still a poor man or woman.

However, their is this saying that says salary is like a drugs every employer gives to an employee to forget his dreams, that is the bitter truth that you must known as a person, if you are aspiring to be great then learn working for your self because salary can only sustain you for sometime while profit brings wealth and lifetime fortunes.

You mentioned the advantages of working for yourself, but do not forget that there are also many disadvantages, such as the fact that all the responsibility is on you. You have to work much more than you did at a regular job. There are taxes you are personally responsible for, and failures in business can be difficult to deal with. If we talk about freelancing as a form of self employment, there is also the risk of being left without orders or work tomorrow. Therefore, in any case, there will be both positive and negative sides, and you need to weigh them and understand what suits you best.

Agreed. You can't say you're self-employed when someone else is paying your salary. Working for yourself is self explanatory because it's when you aren't the owner of the business then you're working for someone. Even when that someone is family or friend. Unless you're part of the company that you and your friend or family joined resources together to open then that's when you can say you're working for yourself. There are two ways of working for yourself and the first is doing everything alone while the second is having a partnership. Not everybody can own a business and not everybody is supposed to be working for others.

There are many reasons why we need to work on ourselves, and not everyone is the same. As many say in the crypto space, not everyone is suited for trading in this field.

Although everything you mentioned, "op", falls under one word: business owners. All of them can help, it just depends on the individual which path they choose to take,
just as we chose the crypto space.

In everything in this life there are advantages and disadvantages even without being told I understand what working for yourself means and how you will be faced with so many challenges and responsibilities since running of the business will be done by the business owner likewise all the bills to ensure that the business is well operated. One thing to note is this, in your personal business you will be motivated to do anything to make sure you succeed even though it means working for xtra hours you will be happy to do that when you know that if you are successful in the business the profit will be coming to you all of it.

Opening a business comes with alot of responsibilities and that is what everyone who is into business will have to take not and recognize business opening a business without properly taking care of the business will lead to the crashing of Such business.


One thing is to open a business the other thing is maintenance which is very cumbersome it involves management, record keeping and a whole lot more so responsible when it comes to business is paramount if that business is to have a headway

When we decide to go the entrepreneur route we don not only get the freedom or gain profit but an additional and heavier burden of responsibility than being an employee. Becoming an entrepreneur might sound good but I have seen many who were underprepared to the challenges that are involved. Operating finances, providing reports, and making decisions should be handled with great care since a tiny error can prove fatal. You can come up with the brightest idea, however, without any systematic administration, the idea will not last long.

This question can only go to show, that seriousness in the management is what makes a business to flourish, and lack of such seriousness will result to a stagnated business. It is important to understand that the whole process involves responsibility. There is a moment we push it off or we under estimate it and the whole that we have constructed would crumble within the blink of an eye. That is why the core driver of is management in business continuity.

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It is not necessarily about being your own boss.
It is about having your control and income in your own hands.
Without depending on customer happiness.

Examples: Traders, digital product creators, software developers.


In short: If your control and income are in your own hands, also you find peace of mind in your work so you are working for yourself.

Everything obviously has its positives and negatives because after all, even though it would be very comfortable to be your own boss, but of course we know that the risk of the worst possibility or there are things that we don't expect when it happens then we just have to try to solve it ourselves because we don't rely on others in the end so we ourselves have to solve the problems about it.

This is a reasonable risk so that the benchmark is now when we want to start by becoming a boss for ourselves or doing an independent business then we must be prepared with these risks because it is a risk that cannot be bargained for in the end.
Therefore, even though it will look profitable but when we are not ready for the risks we have, being a boss for yourself can be difficult because the challenges will be very different.

Yeah right, depends on path a person will take as you mentioned working on ourselves relied to how we take things if we choose trading we need to learned more about the field and to keep enhancing our knowledge to make sure that we will be able to find approriate ways to earn money, it's more on how we take care of our understanding and develop the rightful skills that fits to the venue we choose for our investment.

What difference does it make? Whether you are a trader or a business owner, you will have to work on yourself and grow your skills and knowledge about the field; it's not like a business owner doesn't need to do that. You have knowledge and skills in anything if you want to succeed, because you can only grow your business as the owner or your profits as a trader if you have vast knowledge about the field. If you want to compromise on what you are making, even if it's low, then you can continue like that, but if you don't want that, then you will have to work on yourself.

When a person wants growth in their life, in what they do, either to make a living or as a hobby, they will need to work on improving their skills, and bring growth in their personality, and then they will see changes in their life. Some people just stay the way they are, keep doing things in the same way without innovating or trying something new, and then they complain that there is no growth and their business or investments aren't working out. Adapt and change, and then you will see the changes. Nothing happens on its own.

It is not guaranteed that because you are working for yourself that peace of mind is certain. the major advantage that comes with working for yourself is that you are able to put in the extra effort knowing that your reward comes to you at the end of the day. it encourages productivity and keeps you on your toes knowing fully well that you are the person that is responsible for bearing all the risk that is associated with the business.

The other side of working for yourself is that you have to show up even when you feel like doing and when you do not feel like doing it. real business owners for instance might not be seen doing all the small jobs around be they rarely rest even after the business has closed for the day. it is at that point you get to understand that working for oneself requires the highest level of discipline for more than working for an over demanding boss.

Surely, many people face difficulty when they have there personal business because they can't really handle it sometimes. Working for your self is very important because he will make everything easy and all the profits belong to you. But just know that you will have expensive alot to spend for people because they will have many people under you to pays but is more better to have a business that really brings huge profit for you then working for someone to get paid. But both are not bad if you are getting what you need. Anyone that own personal business as get Freedom and know one can command you to do anything expect what you wish. But just know that anything have positive and negative things,  but is really better to work on your own and you will have more experience and knowledge on what business you are doing and connect with people that will give you more experience and increase your wealth in business.

As social beings, it's nearly impossible to function independently, whether in business or anything else. As business owners, we inevitably need others who need our business.

However, for me, working for myself can be defined as having a skill or whatever it is, so it's not us who seeks out others, but rather others who need us. There will be many differences here, but when we have both quality and quantity, we are the ones people will seek out.

That you decide what responsibilities to take and who to deal with.

True, if you have the skills and you know how to work with it then success is not by far, working on yourself means that you will be able to locate the right service or product to introduce and the right venue to offer it, the cycle will be good for your business as you know how to manifest with your knowledge, though it's not easy as it is as developing skills needs to be back up of your determinations and the actions that you will going to take.

In reality, working for yourself is like being in an ocean full of "business sharks" and trying to be more resourceful than them.
I personally know a good IT specialist who is very afraid to go to work for himself, and he works for a large company receiving only a limited salary. Although he could have a lot of money, he justifies his passivity by the fact that he does not need to look for projects and negotiate with someone. He can simply slack off the whole day sometimes.
And if he worked for himself, he would constantly be afraid that he was missing out on some benefit. And, of course, there would be no talk of laziness there.

I understand that sentiment. Employment gives you multiple advantages over self-employment. Especially nowadays, when many businesses would offer flexible working or remote/hybrid working as a standard + multiple other benefits (life/health insurance, structured pension contributions etc). If you're a skilled professional, you can still earn good money and have many of the benefits that usually come with self-employment.

People tend to romanticise having their own business and "being your own boss" but, in reality, you're likely to end up being dependent on a few key clients who don't care if you're ill or busy and could put much more pressure on you than any boss would.

But it all depends on the type of business and also the character of each individual person.

The first approach to financial stability is being self employed even though it is associated with high risk due to the outcome one gets if its being mismanaged. In self established business, the input energy and capital always yield equivalent result when it comes to income generation while that of another persons business pays peanuts but with no risk of losing the invested capital at mind. Most employers uses employees knowledge to archive there dreams leaving the employee with peanuts at the end of the month. so to avoid such involvement, being self employed best to practice because it brings about maintaining financial stability at all time if properly managed.

Financial stability can be achieved in both ways depending on the place you find yourself and how well you control your spending also the way you invest with what you have for instance working for yourself can be giving you a lot of money but if you don't save you can not be financially stable same thing with working for others to get paid if you don't save you won't be financially stable but for someone who is a serious minded person, you can decide if you want to work for yourself to make more money as a self employed person or get a good paying job of you are lucky to get one.

When someone is working for himself or herself, it means the person is independent. An independent person does not need to take permission from any body to operate, for instance when someone opens a biz for him or herself,The person is virtually in control of the biz, he or she reports to no body. He is in control of his or her own biz .And this is the best because it saves you from so many things. Imagine where you are your own boss, people report to you ,and you order and instruct them on what to do.

Self-employment means working for yourself. If you want to earn money, you must get it by providing services to others. You are self-employed, meaning you are doing your own work. When you work under someone, you have to follow certain rules and you are responsible for any mistake you make to your company boss. But when you drive a taxi or own a hotel, you will provide a service yourself with your freedom. If you don't feel like driving a taxi today, you can easily take a vacation without making any request to anyone. But if you do the same work under a company, then you will have to be very accountable for your absence one day. Self-employment does not mean that you cannot provide services to others. Self-employment refers to the situation where you earn money by providing services to others according to your freedom.

I absolutely agree with this take as a simple definition of working for self. It doesn't matter whether you want to satisfy customers or not, what matter here is self dependency and freedom. When you are in a position to give order and not take, decide to take a break without expecting any form of query, being scared of getting sacked or punished for any misconduct is what working for self mean. You're completely accountable and responsible for the growth and collapse of whatever you do if you're working for yourself.

For me working for yourself entails a lot but necessarily when one work for themselves it means they are solely in charge of the affairs of their business leading to the end users which is their customers, and they can go extra miles in making sure they achieve a great deal of profit.

Yeah when working for yourself you need to satisfy your customers that's one major criteria and at the same time get that satisfaction that you've done so well, it's more or less recycling back from you the business owner to the consumers your customers.

Working for yourself means that you do not get any kind of money from it, such as taking care of your family, taking care of yourself, taking care of your pet or car, etc. But if you want to say what self-employment means, then it will be the work that you can do according to your own freedom to earn money, which is under self-employment. You can own a showroom, you can own a factory, you can own a restaurant, in this case you can do your work according to your own freedom. You can stop working at any time as you wish and start working at any time as you wish. Here you do not have to be responsible to anyone for your work, both the loss and profit of your work are your own. This is what I mean by working for yourself and self-employment