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June 09, 2025, 10:00:46 PM
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What could be the real definition of working for yourself?
Working for yourself is when you have the liberty of making decisions without being ordered.

Being self-employed doesn't mean you don't have to work, becoming self-employed makes you work harder, more reasonably, take/manage risk, and be vigilant.

If you think Taxi drivers are not self-employed, don't they have the right to decide which hour of the day they will come out for duty, unlike working for someone who controls your hours.

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June 09, 2025, 10:51:06 PM
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Simply put - when you work for yourself, you are not controlled by anyone, you are the boss.
You make the decisions, you are the manager, you make the rules - other people who are your subordinates work for you. As a business owner - you are already working for yourself where the result is to enrich yourself, but when you are still an employee, then you are working for someone else even though you are entitled to receive wages.

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June 10, 2025, 08:06:37 AM
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If business owners, taxi owners, hotel owners and others who claim to be working for themselves need to depend on customers and customer satisfaction for profit, that is to be able to get money from them, are they really working for themselves?

Maybe the people who are actually working for themselves are those who do not need people or to satisfy any customer to make profit, example like the traders who do not need to lure customers to their shop like business owners or hotel owners, or taxi owner that need to follow instructions from their clients etc.

What could be the real definition of working for yourself?

Anyone that is working to earn money is working for themselves to improve their life.  Traders still rely on trading platforms which is a business of other individual. How can they trade if those platforms didn't exist. Different trading platforms offers different benefits just to attract a user to use their platform. That's just the same as workers relying on other workers or business.

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June 10, 2025, 09:24:57 AM
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Anyone that is working to earn money is working for themselves to improve their life.  Traders still rely on trading platforms which is a business of other individual. How can they trade if those platforms didn't exist. Different trading platforms offers different benefits just to attract a user to use their platform. That's just the same as workers relying on other workers or business.

You've misunderstood the context if you say that everyone works for themselves to earn money and improve their lives, because the context is working for yourself, which means that you shouldn't have a boss or someone who you are working under who can give you orders and make you do things. It's true that everyone works for themselves or their loved ones, but we are talking about something else here.

You also mentioned trading and exchanges and said that trading isn't something we can call working for one's self, but no, trading is a type of work where you are working for yourself because it's you who does everything, it's your money, your decisions, and it's up to you about when you are going to make your trades and when you don't want to, and an exchange has nothing to do with it because you can always switch from one exchange to another since you have all the rights to withdraw your funds and use them somewhere else.

Working for yourself means having the freedom to do whatever you want, even in between your work hours, which we can't do when we are working for someone else.
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June 10, 2025, 10:08:26 AM
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What could be the real definition of working for yourself?
Working for yourself is when you have the liberty of making decisions without being ordered.

Being self-employed doesn't mean you don't have to work, becoming self-employed makes you work harder, more reasonably, take/manage risk, and be vigilant.

If you think Taxi drivers are not self-employed, don't they have the right to decide which hour of the day they will come out for duty, unlike working for someone who controls your hours.

I like that statement, not because you are not employed means you'll not going to work hard most of the being self-employed consume most of your time, you need to push more or grind more in order to earn decently, though the benefits is when you make things successfully then you can harvest the fruit of your hard work by accumulating money from the investment or business that you established.

It's the decision that you take matters, choosing your own path means you need to work on it in the best way that you can to make things to succeed.

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Maybe the people who are actually working for themselves are those who do not need people or to satisfy any customer to make profit, example like the traders who do not need to lure customers to their shop like business owners or hotel owners, or taxi owner that need to follow instructions from their clients etc.What could be the real definition of working for yourself?

What I understand by working for yourself is that you don't have a boss or someone  to detect how you do your business. A taxi driver can be working for himself when he drives his own cars and determined when he gets to go to work, come back or skip work for the day. When you don't have to wait on someone to pay you your monthly salary then you aren't working for anyone but yourself. Working for yourself isn't good for all individuals because some of us are lazy that we become not serious when we are working for ourselves.

This is why most self employed business people aren't successful because they're not focused and determination to succeed. Working for yourself is a difficult thing to do no matter how people make it feels like it's so easy to do. You have to be the one to force yourself to do the things that usually it's your boss that's always forcing you to do for the growth of the company.

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June 10, 2025, 11:22:12 PM
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Simply put - when you work for yourself, you are not controlled by anyone, you are the boss.
You make the decisions, you are the manager, you make the rules - other people who are your subordinates work for you. As a business owner - you are already working for yourself where the result is to enrich yourself, but when you are still an employee, then you are working for someone else even though you are entitled to receive wages.
In short, you are completely accountable of your own survival, and not relying for other people or someone to make you achieve your life’s goals. While other people work for their boss or employer, you are on your own and you have the full control over your life’s work and finances. With that, it can be said that you work for yourself, only to fulfill your own satisfaction and happiness in life.

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June 11, 2025, 01:57:05 PM
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According to my understanding, working for yourself means earning income from any of your businesses without depending on anyone or working under any organization before you succeed, working for yourself depends on your skills, plans and understanding of the business you should do and make something out of it, the most important thing before planning to work for yourself is to have the funds to start the business, working for yourself is very important because you can't feel any pressure from anyone because you are the boss of yourself and without no pressure and patient you can achieve your goals.

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June 11, 2025, 03:36:57 PM
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If business owners, taxi owners, hotel owners and others who claim to be working for themselves need to depend on customers and customer satisfaction for profit, that is to be able to get money from them, are they really working for themselves?

Maybe the people who are actually working for themselves are those who do not need people or to satisfy any customer to make profit, example like the traders who do not need to lure customers to their shop like business owners or hotel owners, or taxi owner that need to follow instructions from their clients etc.

What could be the real definition of working for yourself?
Having clients does not mean you aren't working for yourself since you cannot become both the producer and consumer of whatever services you and your establishment is offering. Owning a business venture is enough to be termed that you work for yourself, as long as you pay yourself and others.

You must offer services to people to make money and I do not think there is any business of any kind that do not need clients to thrive.

Mind you, times have changed and those who make better profits are the ones that prioritize customer satisfaction, most businesses does not really need to prioritize customer satisfaction to exist like schools, but on the long-run productivity would greatly decline if your clients aren't getting satisfaction from your services since they would choose to go where they are prioritized and satisfied.

 
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Simply put - when you work for yourself, you are not controlled by anyone, you are the boss.
You make the decisions, you are the manager, you make the rules - other people who are your subordinates work for you. As a business owner - you are already working for yourself where the result is to enrich yourself, but when you are still an employee, then you are working for someone else even though you are entitled to receive wages.
In short, you are completely accountable of your own survival, and not relying for other people or someone to make you achieve your life’s goals. While other people work for their boss or employer, you are on your own and you have the full control over your life’s work and finances. With that, it can be said that you work for yourself, only to fulfill your own satisfaction and happiness in life.

Good point, you are not relying to anyone in terms of fulfilling your goals and you are not leaning to what they'll going to provide as you are the one who's looking for the way to fill your success, something that needs hardwork and dedication since there's no fixed income that you can expect but when things goes the right way it can fill up your needs and have decent excess for your future, it's your own decision making that matters for your future success in life.

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June 12, 2025, 08:45:46 PM
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If business owners, taxi owners, hotel owners and others who claim to be working for themselves need to depend on customers and customer satisfaction for profit, that is to be able to get money from them, are they really working for themselves?

Maybe the people who are actually working for themselves are those who do not need people or to satisfy any customer to make profit, example like the traders who do not need to lure customers to their shop like business owners or hotel owners, or taxi owner that need to follow instructions from their clients etc.

What could be the real definition of working for yourself?

Honestly this is more deeper than I thought and I must say that I don't think anyone is actually working for themselves because even the so called business owners, or hotel owners, or taxi owners at some point don't even follow instructions from their from their clients rather they have some certain companies rules and regulations which of course most customers may not be comfortable with, and there is no profitability without certification of their customers over times and that is to say in other words no one is actually working for themselves because their must be cooperation between both parties for fulfillment to take place.

 
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June 12, 2025, 08:59:12 PM
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Working for yourself simply means when you generate your income from your own hand work skill or idea without working for someone or an organization for the purpose of receiving salaries so whether  driver, carpenter etc could be categorized as been self employed.


Self employment means that you are generating your own money your self there is no job that you will do that you will not employ the services of people because one thing about business that we need to know is customers satisfaction so a customer directing you on what to do doesn't mean that you are been controlled infact the trading you made mention of is controlled by the market forces so anyone trading should be able to Read and understand the market very important


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Working for yourself means that you are able and capable to put food in your table without putting your hope on any "boss" to provide for for you. Because this has been the major challenges most people are surfering today from their bosses just because they rely on them. Honestly nothing good as providing all your needs by yourself, no matter how little it might be but let it be that you can afford it easily without depending on someone.

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What could be the real definition of working for yourself?
In my view the meaning of the definition of working for yourself, can be interpreted like "entrepreneur" or the cool language is often mentioned, "self-enmployed" means someone works for themselves in Doing business and so do trade, the definition of the extent of them does not work for others or companies by getting a salary or wage.

Or another definition of the individual is responsible for overall behavior in various aspects of the business, such as finance, marketing, management and so on The goal is to benefit from themselves from their efforts, I think that is the definition of working for yourself.

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Working for yourself means that you are able and capable to put food in your table without putting your hope on any "boss" to provide for for you. Because this has been the major challenges most people are surfering today from their bosses just because they rely on them. Honestly nothing good as providing all your needs by yourself, no matter how little it might be but let it be that you can afford it easily without depending on someone.
One has to take responsibility for managing one's own life. As a result, a person will get complete freedom. If one manages one's life depending on others, there is no chance of being humanly happy. If a person depends on his boss, then he will be under pressure every moment, due to which he will never be happy in life.

When a person depends on himself, even if he is not very financially prosperous, he can lead a normal life, but those who depend on the boss or others will not get that freedom and happiness even if they have a lot of money. This is completely a matter of achievement. Those who depend on themselves can make relatively great progress at some point, but those who depend on others will remain confined within a certain limit.











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June 13, 2025, 07:25:36 PM
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Simply put - when you work for yourself, you are not controlled by anyone, you are the boss.
You make the decisions, you are the manager, you make the rules - other people who are your subordinates work for you. As a business owner - you are already working for yourself where the result is to enrich yourself, but when you are still an employee, then you are working for someone else even though you are entitled to receive wages.
In short, you are completely accountable of your own survival, and not relying for other people or someone to make you achieve your life’s goals. While other people work for their boss or employer, you are on your own and you have the full control over your life’s work and finances. With that, it can be said that you work for yourself, only to fulfill your own satisfaction and happiness in life.
In other words, if I take a conclusion from your statement, working for yourself will give us the opportunity to be more independent, flexible, and creative in honing the skills we have. Although we also have full responsibility for the success or failure that we will experience later. However, if this is planned well, our life goals will be achieved.

Because as explained, working alone will certainly give us freedom and we can manage our own work and time. We also don't need to follow the rules or orders of our superiors because we are the boss ourselves. The striking difference between working alone and being an employee is that working alone can get a greater income opportunity compared to being an employee, especially if we have more abilities and skills.

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If business owners, taxi owners, hotel owners and others who claim to be working for themselves need to depend on customers and customer satisfaction for profit, that is to be able to get money from them, are they really working for themselves?

Maybe the people who are actually working for themselves are those who do not need people or to satisfy any customer to make profit, example like the traders who do not need to lure customers to their shop like business owners or hotel owners, or taxi owner that need to follow instructions from their clients etc.

What could be the real definition of working for yourself?

Traders can only exist because people are transacting and the constantly changing fortunes of businesses. Traders are not actually adding value anywhere, apart from vaguely helping to value businesses with buy and sell orders. Traders require volatility in the market in order to make the most money, when everything is stable and very little is moving, it becomes harder to make money. Becoming a successful trader is simply not possible for most people if we are talking about Forex, there's a reason they have disclaimers in every advert stating that 9 out of 10 people will lose money.

Most of the world recognises that a well run and managed business is working for yourself - you have to keep customers happy but customers also want the product or service you're selling too. You get to choose the direction of the business and if you have staff who manage it and get to a high enough earning threshold - you can step away from it as the team run it independently.

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If business owners, taxi owners, hotel owners and others who claim to be working for themselves need to depend on customers and customer satisfaction for profit, that is to be able to get money from them, are they really working for themselves?

Maybe the people who are actually working for themselves are those who do not need people or to satisfy any customer to make profit, example like the traders who do not need to lure customers to their shop like business owners or hotel owners, or taxi owner that need to follow instructions from their clients etc.

What could be the real definition of working for yourself?

I guess that you are misinterpreting the term "self-employed" with "working for yourself".
Self-employed people are working for their customers, which means that you are right. Self-employed people aren't fully "working for themselves", but I guess that behind the words "working for myself" everyone means not having a boss. That's how capitalism works. You either work for a company, employer, boss, whatever you call it, or you are trying to find your own clients/customers without having to obey to a boss or company. At the end of the day, everyone is exchanging labor, skills goods and services for money. The only real way for you to "work for yourself" is to buy a piece of land, grow crops and vegetables and consume them without having to buy anything from anyone. Grin

 
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June 15, 2025, 11:30:49 AM
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If business owners, taxi owners, hotel owners and others who claim to be working for themselves need to depend on customers and customer satisfaction for profit, that is to be able to get money from them, are they really working for themselves?

Maybe the people who are actually working for themselves are those who do not need people or to satisfy any customer to make profit, example like the traders who do not need to lure customers to their shop like business owners or hotel owners, or taxi owner that need to follow instructions from their clients etc.

What could be the real definition of working for yourself?

I think working for yourself means living independently. Because if you work for yourself or if you start a business, you will have a complete account of how much profit you are making and how much loss you are making. You will not have to answer to anyone for this. And your profit and loss will depend completely on you. And I think that the one who works for others never finds his success, and the one who works for himself finds his success very soon in his life.
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Anyone that is working to earn money is working for themselves to improve their life.  Traders still rely on trading platforms which is a business of other individual. How can they trade if those platforms didn't exist. Different trading platforms offers different benefits just to attract a user to use their platform. That's just the same as workers relying on other workers or business.

You've misunderstood the context if you say that everyone works for themselves to earn money and improve their lives, because the context is working for yourself, which means that you shouldn't have a boss or someone who you are working under who can give you orders and make you do things. It's true that everyone works for themselves or their loved ones, but we are talking about something else here.

No? It has a double meaning the one you quoted and you are both correct.  There is no need to argue on this since the one you quoted simply states the literal meaning of working for yourself, for personal needs support, or for survival.  We work for  ourself simply means we work for money to support ourself which is also the same when we are self-employed, its that this time we are our own boss but still working to support our daily needs.

Working for yourself means having the freedom to do whatever you want, even in between your work hours, which we can't do when we are working for someone else.

Not absolutely true, even if you are self-employed you cannot do whatever you want since it is your business, and you have a client that is more important than your freedom to choose time, you are forced to adjust to the time demanded by your client thus you do have the freedom that is limited somehow.

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