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Title: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 02, 2014, 07:11:47 PM
How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST have an afternoon nap. Never wake up tired again

Secret to waking up refreshed is to work out your sleep in 90 minute cycles
Napping will improve your memory, reaction time, and productivity
Professor Richard Wiseman says napping 'may even save your life'
PLUS: How to stop snoring forever!

Insomnia is the modern malaise. But in a new book, Professor Richard Wiseman explains the simple techniques you can use to get the sleep you need. On Saturday, he revealed why some lucky individuals are ‘super-sleepers’. Today, he explains how you can become one, too . . .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2587568/How-feel-refreshed-little-sleep-MUST-afternoon-nap-Never-wake-tired-again.html

I tried to read this but I'm just too tired right now:
Does anyone have time to decide if the article is any good?  :D

  • Do you sleep well, or have issues with getting enough rest?




Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: cosmofly on April 02, 2014, 07:17:32 PM
I love to sleep but don't get enough

I think this technique is stupid

Also there was recent research that says less sleep is longer life



Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 02, 2014, 07:30:24 PM
Some people only need 4 to ~6 hours.
When I'm working on something exciting, I go several days with about 4 hours sleep /day and feel fine.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: lynn_402 on April 02, 2014, 07:32:44 PM
Some people only need 4 to ~6 hours.
When I'm working on something exciting, I go several days with about 4 hours sleep /day and feel fine.

Like day-trading? ;)


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: MonkeyDOH on April 02, 2014, 07:39:33 PM
Some people only need 4 to ~6 hours.
When I'm working on something exciting, I go several days with about 4 hours sleep /day and feel fine.

Like day-trading? ;)

it's even better to not sleep at all if you day-trading


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: cosmofly on April 02, 2014, 07:42:03 PM
Some people only need 4 to ~6 hours.
When I'm working on something exciting, I go several days with about 4 hours sleep /day and feel fine.

sure but according to the research in ur article, it feels fine to sleep less but it piles up then one day you turn 40 BOOM EARLY DEATH.



Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: AmDD on April 02, 2014, 07:50:45 PM
I dont know if any of this actually holds any water but here goes...

I recall something about 'natural cycles' from my Psychology class in college. Something about every person has their own cycle that works best for them. My parents say when I was very young I would be awake for basically 3 days and then sleep for the 4th day. I would guess I did sleep some but not in large amounts. Then after I graduated high school I went off on my own and not having a job and trying to learn some programming. let me fall into this cycle again. I would stay up for 3 days at a time and then crash the 4th day. I felt fine doing it and actually got a lot of work done.
Food for thought.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Acidyo on April 02, 2014, 07:58:55 PM
I read about this dude on reddit who had managed to get into a weird sleep cycle where he only needed to sleep 3-4x 1h per day to be fully rested and not feel a single negative whiplash from it.

It was something about first staying awake for around 48 hours, then only sleeping for a couple of hours the first time and after that only one hour every 6 hours.

He had managed to keep that up for 1 year, no consequences. Had a shitload of extra time to finish school and work at the same time.

I'd like having 20h/day awake time without consequences and never being tired.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: rohnearner on April 02, 2014, 08:00:37 PM
Might help me as it is 2:00am here nd i'm still awake ..! but i don't think i'm following the instruction..!


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Dafar on April 02, 2014, 08:03:01 PM
I feel the best when I am able to get a solid 7-8 hours of sleep. I usually end up sleeping 5.5-6 hours.

I can't nap. If I take a quick nap I either can't wake up and end up sleeping for hours... or I wake up even more tired than before. How do you guys take naps?


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Acidyo on April 02, 2014, 08:06:08 PM
I feel the best when I am able to get a solid 7-8 hours of sleep. I usually end up sleeping 5.5-6 hours.

I can't nap. If I take a quick nap I either can't wake up and end up sleeping for hours... or I wake up even more tired than before. How do you guys take naps?

There is something called alarms and they help you wake up from your slumber.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Dafar on April 02, 2014, 11:53:01 PM
I feel the best when I am able to get a solid 7-8 hours of sleep. I usually end up sleeping 5.5-6 hours.

I can't nap. If I take a quick nap I either can't wake up and end up sleeping for hours... or I wake up even more tired than before. How do you guys take naps?

There is something called alarms and they help you wake up from your slumber.

Like I said... I wake up a lot more tired from naps. Some people get energized but it just makes me feel like sleeping some more


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Vod on April 03, 2014, 12:48:50 AM
Like I said... I wake up a lot more tired from naps. Some people get energized but it just makes me feel like sleeping some more

I'm the same way.  Taking a 90 min nap in the middle of the day would destroy my productivity and ruin my sleep that night.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: lynn_402 on April 03, 2014, 02:25:44 AM
I feel the best when I am able to get a solid 7-8 hours of sleep. I usually end up sleeping 5.5-6 hours.

I can't nap. If I take a quick nap I either can't wake up and end up sleeping for hours... or I wake up even more tired than before. How do you guys take naps?

The best naps are those who last 15 minutes, that way your body does not have the time to fall in full-sleep mode, so you actually wake up feeling rested. Worked great when I was working the night shift.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 03, 2014, 02:43:35 AM
I dont know if any of this actually holds any water but here goes...

I recall something about 'natural cycles' from my Psychology class in college. Something about every person has their own cycle that works best for them. My parents say when I was very young I would be awake for basically 3 days and then sleep for the 4th day. I would guess I did sleep some but not in large amounts. Then after I graduated high school I went off on my own and not having a job and trying to learn some programming. let me fall into this cycle again. I would stay up for 3 days at a time and then crash the 4th day. I felt fine doing it and actually got a lot of work done.
Food for thought.

Food for thought.
Sure is...I can go ~35 to 40 hours, but 3 days sounds extreme.

I felt fine doing it and actually got a lot of work done.
Aren't you tired and "foggy headed" after ~2 or 2.5 days?


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 03, 2014, 02:45:19 AM
I feel the best when I am able to get a solid 7-8 hours of sleep. I usually end up sleeping 5.5-6 hours.

I can't nap. If I take a quick nap I either can't wake up and end up sleeping for hours... or I wake up even more tired than before. How do you guys take naps?

The best naps are those who last 15 minutes, that way your body does not have the time to fall in full-sleep mode, so you actually wake up feeling rested. Worked great when I was working the night shift.

15 minutes sounds great.
Now I need to work on being able to hop out of bed after only 15 minutes.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: d2dtk on April 03, 2014, 06:31:29 AM
I can't take naps or I'll get a headache for a few hours.

A nice hot shower at the end of the day puts me asleep all night.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: BitOnyx on April 03, 2014, 12:34:16 PM
Well...

Less you sleep more you live your life ;)


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: lynn_402 on April 03, 2014, 12:41:06 PM
Well...

Less you sleep more you live your life ;)

Not if you're too sleepy to appreciate it!


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: zolace on April 03, 2014, 12:43:03 PM
 I seem to recall the DM publishing an article recently that stated if you are a napper, your life span is shortened. And if you sleep more than 8 hours, same thing. I don't think these studies prove anything - people have very different reasons for poor sleep habits. I've had patients who swear up and down that they didn't sleep all night, but I was up, on the night shift as their nurse, so I know they did. The quality of sleep is just as important as the quantity. And you can't really put a number on it.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: basementdweller on April 03, 2014, 12:48:40 PM
Like I said... I wake up a lot more tired from naps. Some people get energized but it just makes me feel like sleeping some more

I'm the same way.  Taking a 90 min nap in the middle of the day would destroy my productivity and ruin my sleep that night.

The same. After such a nap I need at least another 30 min to get my circulation and brain working properly again.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: jodybay on April 03, 2014, 01:31:56 PM
as much as i wanted to sleep at night but i cant i guess i have insomia now but in the afternooni sleep like sleeping beauty from 1pm to 5pm i just fell asleep after eating lunch ;D
sometimes i even do my work out in the bathroom :D


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Cheesus on April 03, 2014, 01:39:17 PM
as much as i wanted to sleep at night but i cant i guess i have insomia now but in the afternooni sleep like sleeping beauty from 1pm to 5pm i just fell asleep after eating lunch ;D
sometimes i even do my work out in the bathroom :D
LOL! Workout in bathroom is classy :D


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: jodybay on April 03, 2014, 01:41:24 PM
why? you can even squat in there or do some sit ups :D
im doing that for about 20 mins everyday


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: jetspot on April 03, 2014, 01:45:43 PM
The best naps are those who last 15 minutes, that way your body does not have the time to fall in full-sleep mode, so you actually wake up feeling rested. Worked great when I was working the night shift.

That would be like being with a woman for 15 seconds, pulling out and calling it good. I don't think so, I don't like to be teased. If I don't get at least 6 hours 4 days a week I'm a grouch.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: softron on April 03, 2014, 05:02:47 PM
Tried this today it works, thanks.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: AmDD on April 09, 2014, 05:03:32 PM
I dont know if any of this actually holds any water but here goes...

I recall something about 'natural cycles' from my Psychology class in college. Something about every person has their own cycle that works best for them. My parents say when I was very young I would be awake for basically 3 days and then sleep for the 4th day. I would guess I did sleep some but not in large amounts. Then after I graduated high school I went off on my own and not having a job and trying to learn some programming. let me fall into this cycle again. I would stay up for 3 days at a time and then crash the 4th day. I felt fine doing it and actually got a lot of work done.
Food for thought.

Food for thought.
Sure is...I can go ~35 to 40 hours, but 3 days sounds extreme.

I felt fine doing it and actually got a lot of work done.
Aren't you tired and "foggy headed" after ~2 or 2.5 days?

Sorry for the delay in reply.

No doubt about it I was tired and day 3 I did slow down and have a foggy head at times. Im not saying everyone can do this or even that i could do it again but at the time it worked for me. Granted I also was not doing much physical labor but learning programming is pretty mentally draining.

This could be more common that you think, we just dont have the numbers to prove one way or the other simply because our society doesnt allow for people to try it. We are a "9 to 5" society for the most part.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: bitkanu on April 09, 2014, 06:12:13 PM
you need to take some tablets of Vitamin C its very useful :)


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 10, 2014, 01:29:48 AM
you need to take some tablets of Vitamin C its very useful :)

Great reminder.
Fresh fruit is another way to get some natural Vitamin C.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: TheCryptoFactory on April 10, 2014, 03:01:53 AM
I live in Vietnam and often send cash back to the UK. This was my experience transferring cash to the UK yesterday.

1. Phone bank and make an appointment to see the manager.

2. Arrive at bank to find manager and all her staff asleep on the floor of the bank (naptime 12-1.30 every day - seriously you wouldnt think these people are adults:))

3. Wake manager up...She spends 5 minutes finding and waking up the person who can do my transfer. They come over a few minutes later, hair a mess, yawning, shoes off asking me for my passport, work permit, residence card, payment...Off they go for 10 minutes...

4. Fill in 3 forms by hand: name, address, bank details, contact details, employer... Cant photocopy anything so have to spend 10 minutes writing the same thing on all 3 forms. Have to do my signature, 3 times on each form...ooops but sir you forgot to write your full name...of course 9 signatures doesn't suffice.

5. Off she goes again....15 more minutes copying my forms...returns my passport, work permit, residence card. Picking her nose...yawning and stretching...

6. Comes back...starts to explain what the interest rate will be, what the charges will be ($65 for $1500 to UK that takes 3-5 days)...try telling her its ok, I understand...sorry sir have to tell you everything..zzzzz... Reminds me i have to come back and fill in a form for taxes within 21 days...

50 minutes later I leave and all I know is that in 3-5 days MY money will eventually be moved to the UK whilst they charge me $65 for the pleasure....

Thats why i want Litecoin and Bitcoin to succeed.

https://images.weserv.nl/?w=800&url=1.bp.blogspot.com/_1t0ZVfTuMi4/TTVjegBk8TI/AAAAAAAAAEM/VMWlAKkv5Xg/s640/vietnam+226.jpg&fnr


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: precrime3 on April 10, 2014, 03:09:07 AM
I read about this dude on reddit who had managed to get into a weird sleep cycle where he only needed to sleep 3-4x 1h per day to be fully rested and not feel a single negative whiplash from it.

It was something about first staying awake for around 48 hours, then only sleeping for a couple of hours the first time and after that only one hour every 6 hours.

He had managed to keep that up for 1 year, no consequences. Had a shitload of extra time to finish school and work at the same time.

I'd like having 20h/day awake time without consequences and never being tired.

Yeah 20 hours a day I could post more xD also 1 year?!?! Did he finally crash after that? So much could be done if sleep wasn't in the way!


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: bitsmichel on April 10, 2014, 11:23:36 AM
Quote
Well...

Less you sleep more you live your life Wink

No sleep = eternal life  :D


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: zolace on April 10, 2014, 12:23:42 PM
We still need to sleep :
   
1. Sleep Keeps Your Heart Healthy
2. Sleep May Prevent Cancer
3. Sleep Reduces Stress
4. Sleep Reduces Inflammation
5. Sleep Makes You More Alert
6. Sleep Bolsters Your Memory
7. Sleep May Help You Lose Weight
8. Naps Make You Smarter
9. Sleep May Reduce Your Risk for Depression
10. Sleep Helps the Body Make Repairs


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: precrime3 on April 10, 2014, 12:25:42 PM
We still need to sleep :
   
1. Sleep Keeps Your Heart Healthy
2. Sleep May Prevent Cancer
3. Sleep Reduces Stress
4. Sleep Reduces Inflammation
5. Sleep Makes You More Alert
6. Sleep Bolsters Your Memory
7. Sleep May Help You Lose Weight
8. Naps Make You Smarter
9. Sleep May Reduce Your Risk for Depression
10. Sleep Helps the Body Make Repairs


We weren't arguing with that, it seems we are arguing how little sleep we can get away with and still have those 10 benefits.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: bitgeek on April 10, 2014, 12:49:43 PM
I sleep at least 8 hours a day, no insomnia here :)


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: zolace on April 10, 2014, 01:08:01 PM
It depends from person to person,for example i normally sleep 4-6 hours a night and i wake-up with energy,but if i sleep more then 6 hours i wake-up with headaches ,bad mood.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Kiki112 on April 10, 2014, 08:55:13 PM
Heard of the Dymaxion or Uberman sleep cycle? :D


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: precrime3 on April 10, 2014, 09:38:08 PM
Heard of the Dymaxion or Uberman sleep cycle? :D

Looked up the uberman cycle, something said is not safe ???


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: counter on April 16, 2014, 09:25:50 AM
It's probably already been mentioned hear but if not I'll give you all a hint.  it starts with coff and ends in ee..


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Kiki112 on April 16, 2014, 09:34:39 AM
Heard of the Dymaxion or Uberman sleep cycle? :D

Looked up the uberman cycle, something said is not safe ???

you can try it, there was allegedly a man, a blogger, think his name was Steve Pavlina or something like that who lived on the cycle for over 6 months, went to a doctor to get checked and was perfectly healthy!


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: shinae23 on April 19, 2014, 12:35:12 AM
Too long didn't read that much...

my experience in sleeping.. during weekdays. i would always stay awake since im always busy with school and all and eventually in weekends just sleep all day.. being this way is the most efficient for me be.. taking more naps would just affect my productivity .. instead of taking naps I could do some work..

well it habit for me now so .. I just can't simply change it.. if it does my whole balance breaks..


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Elizann on April 19, 2014, 02:58:44 AM
Depends, how much energy, how can person access it :)


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Rigon on May 05, 2014, 04:30:01 PM
I only sleep about 5 hours at night and wake up feeling fine. I hardly ever take a knap because it makes me feel crappy and tired the rest of the day.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: Snorek on May 05, 2014, 05:49:11 PM
I think that a healthy sleep is around 6 to 8 hours. If you feeling weak or sleepy in the middle of a day You can have a nap (15-20 minutes). As for doing  any special activities to fell asleep, I think just doing anything tiring will do.


Title: Re: How to feel refreshed even after too little sleep - and why you MUST....
Post by: beetcoin on May 05, 2014, 05:53:55 PM
doesn't matter if i get a lot of sleep or too little sleep.. i always wake up feeling drowsy and it sucks. i'm not a morning person at all. i wake up between 8 to 10 normally though. it's better than sleeping to 12 and feeling like shit the rest of your day.