Title: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Fiatless on July 01, 2025, 06:15:57 PM https://i.abcnewsfe.com/a/97bd93af-1482-43c8-b08e-9a7fd00e82fd/donald-trump-36-gty-gmh-250211_1739307099975_hpMain.jpg
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/musks-son-lil-steals-spotlight-oval-office/story?id=118713138 A few months ago, he was a prince, accessing every wing in the White House. He had unhindered access to the president's office and even went with his young son to the Oval Office. Today Donald Trump said he might consider reviewing Elon Musk's citizenship. So he might be deported to South Africa, a country Elon betrayed. It was he who promoted the claim that white South Africans are facing genocide. This is a lesson for everyone who is trusting politicians. Their focus is to use you and gain power. Immediately they gain authority you will be dumped because you have become useless. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/07/01/trump-musk-south-africa/84427588007/ Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Roseline492 on July 01, 2025, 08:40:16 PM Do you think there is something going on between them that people do not no off?, because the both of them has been very close right from Donald Trump race in becoming the president of the United States so what could have made the president to say that, or was he joking with Elon Musk?, however even if he eventually does review his citizenship doesn't mean he will deport Elon Musk if all his credentials are real because with how prominent he is I don't think he would be operating in that country with a false citizenship.
Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Stablexcoin on July 01, 2025, 08:55:52 PM Trump will be smart enough not to deport Elon Musk, all of these are unnecessary tensions. You should know very well in US the role of technology developments Elon Musk plays in America. If Trumps wants to deport him how about Musk companies, will they also be stopped from operation, a lot will really go into pause so i believe Trump will rethink if he said so before taking any action. You can count how many countries will be willing to assign Elon Musk into their country to carry out the same innovative leadership as he did in America.
Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: franky1 on July 01, 2025, 09:03:08 PM a citizenship cant just be revoked due to not liking someone..
citizenship is more of a permanent thing compared to work/resident/student visa's, which can be revoked easily there are only a few conditions that would allow revoking a citizenship, and the most used one is where the application and process of gaining citizenship initially is found to have had fraud involved in the process (sham marriages for instance) Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: DeathAngel on July 01, 2025, 09:17:23 PM He’s not going to get deported, it’s just two massive egos in Trump & Elon going at each other. It’s quite immature in reality, you would expect better from two gentlemen of that standing. I would suggest that Elon tones it down a little though as Trump is the one holding the cards here.
Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: OgNasty on July 01, 2025, 09:23:54 PM Deporting the richest man on earth would be the dumbest thing a country could do. It doesn’t matter what he does. That tax revenue is a real thing and nobody wants to turn their nose up at that money. It is what makes the world go around after all. The mere mention of it makes me think they are just play fighting.
Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Vod on July 01, 2025, 09:39:10 PM a citizenship cant just be revoked due to not liking someone.. citizenship is more of a permanent thing compared to work/resident/student visa's, which can be revoked easily there are only a few conditions that would allow revoking a citizenship, and the most used one is where the application and process of gaining citizenship initially is found to have had fraud involved in the process (sham marriages for instance) A press agent can't just be revoked due to not liking someone - but it was. A president can't just call in the national guard for nothing - but he does. Trump break rules and if Elon had a chance of winning a new political party much better funded than Trump's, I can see Trump deporting him for some reason, regardless if it's valid or not. The fake Democracy is over - Trump is making a dash for the crown. Today Donald Trump said he might consider reviewing Elon Musk's citizenship. So he might be deported to South Africa, a country Elon betrayed. It was he who promoted the claim that white South Africans are facing genocide. Elon would come to Canada, not South Africa. We could use his money to build our pipelines to sell to anyone but the US - something Elon would agree with out of childish spite. Quote from: POTUS “The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn’t do it!” Quote from: Elon Musk “In light of the President’s statement about cancellation of my government contracts, @SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft immediately” They are both childish and they both always chicken out. https://i.ibb.co/kgwRTh99/chicken-taco.png Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: passwordnow on July 01, 2025, 09:53:37 PM And not just deportation that he's about to face. Also the cancellation and voiding of the contracts of his companies with the US government. Elon is triggering more of that to Trump's tweet and said to bring it on and do that immediately. Maybe because they've got enough funds to cover those losses and will just layover a lot of American employees that will also impact the US economy and that's why he's said that. It's no joke if Trump do that because it's not only Elon that will be cancelled there but also the employees that are also US citizens that will lose their jobs.
Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: White_Hat_LP on July 01, 2025, 10:12:00 PM If this is correct, and the courts can't stop Trump, then he might be able to do it:
Quote A justice department memo directing (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/30/trump-birthright-citizenship-naturalized-citizens) the department’s civil division to target the denaturalization of US citizens around the country has opened up an new avenue for Donald Trump (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/donaldtrump)’s mass deportation agenda, experts say. In the US, when a person is denaturalized, they return to the status they held before becoming a citizen. If someone was previously a permanent resident, for example, they will be classified as such again, which can open the door to deportation efforts. The memo (https://www.justice.gov/civil/media/1404046/dl?inline), published on 11 June, instructed the justice department’s civil division to “prioritize and maximally pursue denaturalization proceedings in all cases permitted by law and supported by the evidence”. Immigration matters are civil matters, meaning that immigrants – whether they are naturalized citizens or not – do not have the right to an attorney in such cases. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/01/us-citizenship-denaturalization-trump-memo ps. "...do not have the right to an attorney in such cases" is a real surprise to me. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Vod on July 01, 2025, 10:54:27 PM ps. "...do not have the right to an attorney in such cases" is a real surprise to me. Arrests and deportations without due process have been front page news for some time. Kings can pick and choose who they want in their kingdom. This is what Trump is effectively doing. Too much of an uprise to kidnap/deport a citizen, but if he is just a permanent resident then Trump is already kidnapping dozens of those a day. Who is going to protest Elon's removal? They've all been removed from the country. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: paxmao on July 01, 2025, 11:37:43 PM It is really amazing that the same person that has played the victim over and over about the legal prosecutions he has faced, has now the balls to clearly misinterpret the law and threaten an US citizen with deportation.
In any case, I think that Elon could probably buy his Citizenship anywhere else. But what is real here and now is Elons threat to any politician that after promising to not raise the debt votes to actually raise the debt even more. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: bitterguy28 on July 01, 2025, 11:46:22 PM https://i.abcnewsfe.com/a/97bd93af-1482-43c8-b08e-9a7fd00e82fd/donald-trump-36-gty-gmh-250211_1739307099975_hpMain.jpg lol this isn’t surprising at the very least https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/musks-son-lil-steals-spotlight-oval-office/story?id=118713138 A few months ago, he was a prince, accessing every wing in the White House. He had unhindered access to the president's office and even went with his young son to the Oval Office. Today Donald Trump said he might consider reviewing Elon Musk's citizenship. So he might be deported to South Africa, a country Elon betrayed. It was he who promoted the claim that white South Africans are facing genocide. This is a lesson for everyone who is trusting politicians. Their focus is to use you and gain power. Immediately they gain authority you will be dumped because you have become useless. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/07/01/trump-musk-south-africa/84427588007/ this is what happens if you try to come for the president of the united states, you just don’t leave and move on with your life i wonder if trump will actually do it though or is he just bluffing to scare elon musk? what i’m surprised by is how fast they turned in on each other Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: BADecker on July 02, 2025, 01:03:25 AM Musk is smart enough that he might simply move out of America.
Besides, Trump doesn't have the authority to deport Musk out of the US, except, maybe, to 'deport' him to America. After all, the word 'person' is something that Musk and his people know the definition of. And they know that 'person' is only the name on documents. And they know that he is not that name... not the 'person'. If Musk or anybody makes this known, the United States loses, maybe, 90% of its authority over the people of America. It lies in the definition of the word 'person', because Musk and anybody can use the 6th and 7th Amendments as a man against the presidential non-authority. Office of the Person - https://redress4dummies.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/office-of-person1.pdf 8) Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: franky1 on July 02, 2025, 06:40:32 AM a citizenship cant just be revoked due to not liking someone.. citizenship is more of a permanent thing compared to work/resident/student visa's, which can be revoked easily there are only a few conditions that would allow revoking a citizenship, and the most used one is where the application and process of gaining citizenship initially is found to have had fraud involved in the process (sham marriages for instance) A press agent can't just be revoked due to not liking someone - but it was. A president can't just call in the national guard for nothing - but he does. Trump break rules the national guard can be called in.. and was, using legal methods.. no rules were broken press can be uninvited to attend white house press conferences.. no rules were broken ending someones citizenship is harder than a phonecall. that said.. .. if trump goes too far against supporting elon for things like the space missions, elon can simply take things abroad and voluntarily seek new citizenship somewhere else, im sure many countries would welcome him Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: FinneysTrueVision on July 02, 2025, 07:07:52 AM Musk never thought government overreach would affect him when he was supporting Trump’s draconian policies. The law means nothing to Trump, so just because it isn’t legal to deport him doesn’t mean that he wouldn’t try to do it. So far they’ve only targeted serious criminals for denaturalization, but who’s to say they won’t take it a step further and target political enemies. This already happened in the McCarthy era, and Trump supporters are openly calling for authoritarian measures that would strip certain Americans of their citizenship.
If Musk was deported or faced some serious retribution for turning against Trump, it might make other powerful billionaires turn against him also, that’s why I don’t think he has the balls to go through with it. Trump is too much of a grifter to burn those bridges. Eventually, this feud will be settled by way of Musk putting money into the pockets of Donald Trump. Perhaps Tesla will announce they’ve acquired billions in USD1 for their strategic reserve. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Dunamisx on July 02, 2025, 11:01:20 AM https://i.abcnewsfe.com/a/97bd93af-1482-43c8-b08e-9a7fd00e82fd/donald-trump-36-gty-gmh-250211_1739307099975_hpMain.jpg https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/musks-son-lil-steals-spotlight-oval-office/story?id=118713138 A few months ago, he was a prince, accessing every wing in the White House. He had unhindered access to the president's office and even went with his young son to the Oval Office. Today Donald Trump said he might consider reviewing Elon Musk's citizenship. So he might be deported to South Africa, a country Elon betrayed. It was he who promoted the claim that white South Africans are facing genocide. This is a lesson for everyone who is trusting politicians. Their focus is to use you and gain power. Immediately they gain authority you will be dumped because you have become useless. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/07/01/trump-musk-south-africa/84427588007/ Politics is being played everywhere, if you can't beat them, then you must join them or rather leave them, though I want to believe that this is just an ordinary say, he might not mean it, as some of us have already contributed, once you're no longer showing the interest to work for these politicians again or as before, then they begin to wage war against you and cause many challenges to be arising, we have series of instances like this that have happened in the past and are even more worst that this. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Kelward on July 02, 2025, 04:25:56 PM He’s not going to get deported, it’s just two massive egos in Trump & Elon going at each other. It’s quite immature in reality, you would expect better from two gentlemen of that standing. I would suggest that Elon tones it down a little though as Trump is the one holding the cards here. I don't get fooled when two politicians go at each other, although some people can claim that Trump, is a politician while Elon Musk, is not but he played politics for Trump, to win. I wouldn't be surprised if their interests aligns again and they again become friends, I've seen enough high caliber people switch between friends and enemies. I doubt that Trump, can deport somebody like Elon Musk, the world's richest man over their misunderstanding. With Elon Musk's interests and contributions to American economic growth and power no president can deport him over none treasonable offenses. I just feel that Trump, is trying to send him a message that he's in charge, it's surely a subtle threat to let Musk, to know who's number one and in charge. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: OgNasty on July 02, 2025, 04:38:03 PM He’s not going to get deported, it’s just two massive egos in Trump & Elon going at each other. It’s quite immature in reality, you would expect better from two gentlemen of that standing. I would suggest that Elon tones it down a little though as Trump is the one holding the cards here. I don't get fooled when two politicians go at each other, although some people can claim that Trump, is a politician while Elon Musk, is not but he played politics for Trump, to win. I wouldn't be surprised if their interests aligns again and they again become friends, I've seen enough high caliber people switch between friends and enemies. I doubt that Trump, can deport somebody like Elon Musk, the world's richest man over their misunderstanding. With Elon Musk's interests and contributions to American economic growth and power no president can deport him over none treasonable offenses. I just feel that Trump, is trying to send him a message that he's in charge, it's surely a subtle threat to let Musk, to know who's number one and in charge. Imagine how liberals would react to Elon Musk getting deported. The United States would be completely dependent upon Russia for our space program and then the liberals who celebrated Elon getting deported would attack Trump and say he made us dependent on Russia for doing it. I guess that's why they want to push this fairytale so much. They can complain about everything throughout the entire process and we all know that more than anything liberals just want something to complain about. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Agbamoni on July 02, 2025, 06:21:59 PM This is a lesson for everyone who is trusting politicians. Their focus is to use you and gain power. Immediately they gain authority you will be dumped because you have become useless. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/07/01/trump-musk-south-africa/84427588007/ This is not new anymore, anyone trusting politicians is a baby unless they have their own inside, secret plan. Elon Musk is a big name, I doubt Trump can use him and go free without any consequences. What he can do, the tools he has, the internet and space control. My dear Trump needs to be careful. There is a reason why this information is circulating, maybe to destroy the relationship Trump have Elon Musk but it wont be possible. The relationship is not bound by trust but by agreements. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Hispo on July 02, 2025, 07:30:43 PM Honestly, This is only hot air, I doubt Trump would even dare to mess with Elon Musk to the point of deporting him or try to strip his citizenship off him. Besides, taking the citizenship out of someone is something which cannot be done easily, usually it takes the person whose citizenship is being taken to have committed serious crimes against their mother country, like treason or being a spy.
Anyways... All this fight between Elon Musk and Trump is just their giant egos trying to occupy more room than they possibly can with in sociopolitical scenario in the United States. Instead of people talking about non-sense and gossip like news related to Trump and Musk, they are supposed to be looking to improve the state of the economy and the strength of the US Dollar, lately the value of the American currency has been nose diving in relation to the Euro and other Fiats, it seems nobody is talking about it. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: KingsDen on July 02, 2025, 08:38:27 PM https://i.abcnewsfe.com/a/97bd93af-1482-43c8-b08e-9a7fd00e82fd/donald-trump-36-gty-gmh-250211_1739307099975_hpMain.jpg Donald Trump once acknowledged that Elon is a genius and one of the, if not the best brain in US. He cannot make a U-turn to deport his genius.https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/musks-son-lil-steals-spotlight-oval-office/story?id=118713138 A few months ago, he was a prince, accessing every wing in the White House. He had unhindered access to the president's office and even went with his young son to the Oval Office. Today Donald Trump said he might consider reviewing Elon Musk's citizenship. So he might be deported to South Africa, a country Elon betrayed. It was he who promoted the claim that white South Africans are facing genocide. This is a lesson for everyone who is trusting politicians. Their focus is to use you and gain power. Immediately they gain authority you will be dumped because you have become useless. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/07/01/trump-musk-south-africa/84427588007/ I see whatever happening between Trump and his friend Elon as a political game, but where it will arrive at is what I don't know. I haven't taken my time to understand deeply what is happening, but I sure know nothing deep is happening. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Fiatless on July 03, 2025, 06:17:50 PM I have been expecting Elon Musk to respond to Trump's threat to deport him. Surprisingly, Elon finally broke his silence with some kind words about the president:
Quote Credit where credit is due," Musk wrote. "Donald Trump has successfully resolved several serious conflicts around the world." https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/elon-musk-breaks-silence-following-35486258Many people were surprised because they expected the world's richest man to attack the POTUS. The general view is that he is scared of being deported, so he has to play nice. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Franctoshi on July 03, 2025, 07:07:21 PM https://i.abcnewsfe.com/a/97bd93af-1482-43c8-b08e-9a7fd00e82fd/donald-trump-36-gty-gmh-250211_1739307099975_hpMain.jpg https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/musks-son-lil-steals-spotlight-oval-office/story?id=118713138 A few months ago, he was a prince, accessing every wing in the White House. He had unhindered access to the president's office and even went with his young son to the Oval Office. Today Donald Trump said he might consider reviewing Elon Musk's citizenship. So he might be deported to South Africa, a country Elon betrayed. It was he who promoted the claim that white South Africans are facing genocide. This is a lesson for everyone who is trusting politicians. Their focus is to use you and gain power. Immediately they gain authority you will be dumped because you have become useless. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/07/01/trump-musk-south-africa/84427588007/ This is part of the problems though, but let's not look at this issue one-sided, As one of the 48 laws of power states that "Do not outshine your master" because this can lead to your potential downfall, if you look at the Elon Musk and Donald Trump issues, it started when Trump signed a bill which is not that favorable to Elon Musk's Business, Yes he supported Donald Trump immensely but that doesn't mean Trump will only their in the White House for his personal benefits, because Elon Musk's vote alone wouldn't have put Trump back into the white house. Elon Musk is forgetting that Trump is commander in chief and can make his business crumble over night with some ugly polices or by signing some executive order that would harm Musk's Businesses and Musk would lose heavily, Money and are two different things, Musk has money but don't have much of power as Donald Trump, whereas Trump has both. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Vod on July 03, 2025, 07:39:55 PM Musk has money but don't have much of power as Donald Trump, whereas Trump has both. Trump has money but not as much as Musk. 🏦 Donald Trump Forbes (June 2025) pegs it at roughly $5.1 billion 🚀 Elon Musk Forbes (May 2025) lists him at approximately $381 billion . So Elon can follow through on his threats to fund a number of candidates, although I'm not sure he could start an entire party with fifty candidates. He would also have to move all that money silently to avoid deportation. But Elon doesn't need to win the next election - Trump has less than four years left, while Elon has forty. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: GiftedMAN on July 03, 2025, 07:55:28 PM All I see in this case is just President Donald Trump trying to say things to confuse people the more so that no one will ever understand the real reason why he's going back and forth with his business partner and friend Elon Musk. He wants to deport a big name that helped him to get into the office that's not going to happen all I see is Trump threatening him just to let him know that he is the one with the power when though he has the bigger money so let's allow them to play games while we watch.
Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Vod on July 03, 2025, 08:31:03 PM He wants to deport a big name that helped him to get into the office that's not going to happen Hasn't be betrayed many others that helped him get into office? It's past tense - doesn't matter now - what has he done for Trump lately (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9uizdKZAGE)? Elon has the $ to threaten Trump. Trump has the power to deport Elon and eliminate that threat. Elon knows it. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Accardo on July 03, 2025, 09:32:50 PM A press agent can't just be revoked due to not liking someone - but it was. A president can't just call in the national guard for nothing - but he does. Trump break rules and if Elon had a chance of winning a new political party much better funded than Trump's, I can see Trump deporting him for some reason, regardless if it's valid or not. The fake Democracy is over - Trump is making a dash for the crown. They are both childish and they both always chicken out. https://i.ibb.co/kgwRTh99/chicken-taco.png Is it not what every other top guy thinks that betraying his master counts. Just like what happened to Tony when he bit more than he can chew with Sosa. Nobody grows by trying to bring his master down. Trump is president and supreme, Elon won't be in Canada because Trump wants to turn it to the 51 state of America, Elon's money can't do that, he'll rather run to South African and when that happens, after 4 months nobody cares anymore. The media and press will move on to more important topics. Power speaks louder than cash. I knew Trump wasn't thinking about Elon when he said all sort of things against him. It is said; you can trick a rich man but don't insult him. Nobody saw Trump revealing all the bad things Elon has done in his life, but Elon did that to Trump which isn't right. The people of America don't feel good about their leader getting insulted by thesame guy they made rich. That's not good regardless. So whatever it is would be the outcome we'd most definitely get over it entirely before 4 months elapse. I'd want a bite of that chicken, anyways. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: mcdouglasx on July 03, 2025, 09:41:34 PM Musk and Trump are showmen. These guys make sure they stay on the front page wherever they go. I don't think Trump could revoke Musk's citizenship. If there were even the slightest indication that Musk was a fraud from the start, I think it would have been known for a long time. Just as he's a man with many followers, he must also have haters. I think what's happening between them is more of an ego clash, to gauge who has more power or influence.
Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: franky1 on July 03, 2025, 09:55:54 PM All I see in this case is just President Donald Trump trying to say things to confuse people the more so that no one will ever understand the real reason why he's going back and forth with his business partner and friend Elon Musk. He wants to deport a big name that helped him to get into the office that's not going to happen all I see is Trump threatening him just to let him know that he is the one with the power when though he has the bigger money so let's allow them to play games while we watch. 1. trump didnt say the word deport. media asked the question using the word deport.. trump replied with the word DOGE. in short defunding musk.. 2. trump cant just deport someone, he needs to legally revoke citizenship and then also re-instate the citizenship of the persons native country meaning seeking the native countries willingness to take them back -- its a totally different situation and easier to deport someone thats already an illegal immigrant thus still have native citizenship outside the US 3. yes trump has stabbed friends in the back before.. micheal pence, micheal cohen, fauci Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: GiftedMAN on July 03, 2025, 10:09:46 PM All I see in this case is just President Donald Trump trying to say things to confuse people the more so that no one will ever understand the real reason why he's going back and forth with his business partner and friend Elon Musk. He wants to deport a big name that helped him to get into the office that's not going to happen all I see is Trump threatening him just to let him know that he is the one with the power when though he has the bigger money so let's allow them to play games while we watch. 1. trump didnt say the word deport. media asked the question using the word deport.. trump replied with the word DOGE. in short defunding musk.. 2. trump cant just deport someone, he needs to legally revoke citizenship and then also re-instate the citizenship of the persons native country meaning seeking the native countries willingness to take them back -- its a totally different situation and easier to deport someone thats already an illegal immigrant thus still have native citizenship outside the US 3. yes trump has stabbed friends in the back before.. micheal pence, micheal cohen, fauci 1. The media will not stop pushing a narrative just to get views and make the people to start flooding around their pages. 2. Betrayal is real but Trump will be ready to use the legal means to achieve what he wants if the beef between them is authentic. 3.All the names you mentioned is true but still I think Trump will not stab Elon Musk now because I believe he knows a lot about him and they both have some agreement before supporting his campaign. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Iranus on July 04, 2025, 03:45:55 AM I have been expecting Elon Musk to respond to Trump's threat to deport him. Surprisingly, Elon finally broke his silence with some kind words about the president: Quote Credit where credit is due," Musk wrote. "Donald Trump has successfully resolved several serious conflicts around the world." https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/elon-musk-breaks-silence-following-35486258Many people were surprised because they expected the world's richest man to attack the POTUS. The general view is that he is scared of being deported, so he has to play nice. Under the United States Constitution, all citizens are protected by the 14th Amendment. No one (not even the president) has the power to easily strip a person of their US citizenship or deport them without good cause. Meanwhile, Elon is a legal citizen of the United States (naturalized) and he is one of the most influential figures in the United States, from economics to politics. He also did not violate any US constitution, I wonder how Trump can deport Elon? Always verify what Trump says, don't be naive and easily believe what Trump says because sometimes he doesn't know what he's talking about. Like he keeps asking to fire the Fed chairman, but he clearly doesn't have the authority to do so. Trump has threatened to cut off government aid to Elon's companies, and Elon has not hesitated to say cut it all off immediately. I bet Trump would never dare do that. https://iili.io/Fc9qX94.md.png https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1939911208393720002 Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: montaga on July 04, 2025, 06:48:35 AM ................ That is exactly what DOGE is all about, get rid of freeriders.Trump has threatened to cut off government aid to Elon's companies, ............. If he gets deported, he just goes back to Canada. This whole deporting thing is a question of how far back you go, at some stage Trump has to deport himself, all his Wife legal standing questionable. USA is the second worst place to be born after Eritrea, you pay Tax no matter were you life. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Hispo on July 04, 2025, 10:16:05 AM ... Perhaps you have not seen what Trump and his administration is doing, but I will explain it to you, in case you don't understand the mindset or the plan Trump may have on his head for this term. All this is about pushing constitutional boundaries until the extrem, to see how far Trump and his team can get with whatever they want. Keep in mind the supreme court has already pulled the President of the United States is pretty much inmune to prosecution for whatever he does, as long as it is done as part of his duties, basically giving Trump a get our of jail for four years or even more. Also, the supreme court is obviously sided by Republicans and with the agenda of Trump, so even if the case of Trump wanting to remove the chairman of the FED was elevated to the SCOTUS, there is a chance they would mess with the separation of power and allow Trump to remove him from his position. He wants to be as authoritarian as possible. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Iranus on July 05, 2025, 03:08:24 AM Perhaps you have not seen what Trump and his administration is doing, but I will explain it to you, in case you don't understand the mindset or the plan Trump may have on his head for this term. All this is about pushing constitutional boundaries until the extrem, to see how far Trump and his team can get with whatever they want. Keep in mind the supreme court has already pulled the President of the United States is pretty much inmune to prosecution for whatever he does, as long as it is done as part of his duties, basically giving Trump a get our of jail for four years or even more. Also, the supreme court is obviously sided by Republicans and with the agenda of Trump, so even if the case of Trump wanting to remove the chairman of the FED was elevated to the SCOTUS, there is a chance they would mess with the separation of power and allow Trump to remove him from his position. He wants to be as authoritarian as possible. I have heard accusations that SCOTUS is biased toward Trump and the Republican agenda. But I think that is not enough for Trump to easily break or distort the immutable rules of the constitution to do whatever he wants. Without a good reason, I don't think Trump can remove the Fed chairman even if there is bias from the Supreme Court. Because the destruction of the Fed's independence and the politicization of the Fed are not just causing outrage in US politics. That would have dire economic consequences, especially as the world's confidence in the US would collapse faster than ever. The US can stand firm and receive the trust of the world as it does today thanks to the perfect separation of powers. So if that gets broken, politicized…they lose the trust of the world. Trump has many advantages and power in this term but if he harms the interests and position of the US in the international arena. His fate could be similar to that of four presidents who have been assassinated in the past. American politics is complex and there are many mysteries beyond our understanding. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: BADecker on July 05, 2025, 05:48:05 AM Perhaps you have not seen what Trump and his administration is doing, but I will explain it to you, in case you don't understand the mindset or the plan Trump may have on his head for this term. All this is about pushing constitutional boundaries until the extrem, to see how far Trump and his team can get with whatever they want. Keep in mind the supreme court has already pulled the President of the United States is pretty much inmune to prosecution for whatever he does, as long as it is done as part of his duties, basically giving Trump a get our of jail for four years or even more. Also, the supreme court is obviously sided by Republicans and with the agenda of Trump, so even if the case of Trump wanting to remove the chairman of the FED was elevated to the SCOTUS, there is a chance they would mess with the separation of power and allow Trump to remove him from his position. He wants to be as authoritarian as possible. I have heard accusations that SCOTUS is biased toward Trump and the Republican agenda. But I think that is not enough for Trump to easily break or distort the immutable rules of the constitution to do whatever he wants. Without a good reason, I don't think Trump can remove the Fed chairman even if there is bias from the Supreme Court. Because the destruction of the Fed's independence and the politicization of the Fed are not just causing outrage in US politics. That would have dire economic consequences, especially as the world's confidence in the US would collapse faster than ever. The US can stand firm and receive the trust of the world as it does today thanks to the perfect separation of powers. So if that gets broken, politicized…they lose the trust of the world. Trump has many advantages and power in this term but if he harms the interests and position of the US in the international arena. His fate could be similar to that of four presidents who have been assassinated in the past. American politics is complex and there are many mysteries beyond our understanding. The thing that Trump should do is make US Treasury Notes as competition for the Federal Reserve Notes, and then offer them to the country. Treasury Notes are backed by gold, btw. 8) Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: montaga on July 05, 2025, 06:51:40 AM .......... The people have the power, not XRP* shill Trump (* the bearded people junk coin).The thing that Trump should do is make US Treasury Notes as competition for the Federal Reserve Notes, and then offer them to the country. Treasury Notes are backed by gold, btw. https://www.usdebtclock.org/ https://i.ibb.co/PzsRz2xy/Untitled.png (https://ibb.co/cXKPXWJ9) Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: bias on July 05, 2025, 03:41:32 PM Deporting the richest man on earth would be the dumbest thing a country could do. It doesn’t matter what he does. Really now? Just because someone has money, can they do whatever to whoever? You care more for money than anything else on the planet, congrats. ::) The people have the power Wrong tense. People had the power. :'( Always verify what Trump says, don't be naive and easily believe what Trump says because sometimes he doesn't know what he's talking about. Like he keeps asking to fire the Fed chairman, but he clearly doesn't have the authority to do so. That alone shows that Trump is only for the show. Saying unproven and unfounded things just for the sake of impressions. He wants to provoke and have everyone engage with him and his nonsense. A true Joker President. Trump has threatened to cut off government aid to Elon's companies, and Elon has not hesitated to say cut it all off immediately. I bet Trump would never dare do that. Of course he won't. He is known for his empty threats to almost everyone without listening to anyone. Well, only when Israel talks, he dances and runs to serve... Full of independence! Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Vod on July 05, 2025, 04:34:56 PM Instead of people talking about non-sense and gossip like news related to Trump and Musk, they are supposed to be looking to improve the state of the economy and the strength of the US Dollar, lately the value of the American currency has been nose diving in relation to the Euro and other Fiats, it seems nobody is talking about it. (Sorry, you are probably directing this at fellow citizens.) I feel no desire to improve the US economy after your king's recent actions/comments. Don't we want to improve the strength of bitcoin, which is a competitor to the USD? I believe the US currency is falling because of their increasing debt. It's a situation that almost everyone is familiar with - increasing expenses and decreasing income. But instead of caring about the countries finances, Trump is only concerned with his own. So the gossip around Trump is certainly valid - it's on everyone's minds and politics is something everyone feels they can change. But the national debt, stripped of all gold backing in 1971, is something no one can control. The debt to GDI will eventually grow and consume. Quote Generally, economists consider that once a country’s debt-to-GDP (or debt-to-GDI/GDI) ratio exceeds approximately 90–100 percent, it enters a range where further borrowing becomes increasingly risky and often “unrecoverable”—meaning that growth slows sharply, interest costs escalate, and debt spirals become harder to avoid As for the current U.S. position: According to the U.S. Treasury, the debt‑to‑GDP ratio for FY 2024 is about 123 percent (debt: ~$35.46 T / GDP: ~$28.83 T) Unrecoverable threshold: roughly 90–100 percent of GDP (some estimates as low as 75–80 percent) Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Spaceman1000$ on July 05, 2025, 04:46:16 PM https://i.abcnewsfe.com/a/97bd93af-1482-43c8-b08e-9a7fd00e82fd/donald-trump-36-gty-gmh-250211_1739307099975_hpMain.jpg Elon musk already knew that the game he was about to enter was full of murky Waters, Elon musk did not follow Donald Trump as a politician, he went there probably with the pure thinking of aligning with the Donald Trump's policies to help place his business at an advantageous position. The truth is that, the real cause of their fallout has not been let knownhttps://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/musks-son-lil-steals-spotlight-oval-office/story?id=118713138 A few months ago, he was a prince, accessing every wing in the White House. He had unhindered access to the president's office and even went with his young son to the Oval Office. Today Donald Trump said he might consider reviewing Elon Musk's citizenship. So he might be deported to South Africa, a country Elon betrayed. It was he who promoted the claim that white South Africans are facing genocide. This is a lesson for everyone who is trusting politicians. Their focus is to use you and gain power. Immediately they gain authority you will be dumped because you have become useless. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/07/01/trump-musk-south-africa/84427588007/ to the public, what we are just see is Mere theatrics as the root cause of their problem has not been revealed, maybe after the election Elon musk has been asking for his own pound of flesh which Donald Trump has viewed it to see that it is probably beyond his capacity to do what they might have agreed before now or he might be reneging on their agreement. But then I think the politicians within the trump Wing those of them are top ranking should come for a peace between the factions, from she understand that Elon musk went all out to support him so you can win this is Presidency. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Iranus on July 06, 2025, 03:06:58 AM That alone shows that Trump is only for the show. Saying unproven and unfounded things just for the sake of impressions. He wants to provoke and have everyone engage with him and his nonsense. A true Joker President. Honestly, if he could kick Elon out, cut funding for Elon's tech programs, or fire the Fed chairman...Given his character, and if he had the authority to do it, he would have done it a long time ago, not just go on social media and talk nonsense. I don't even remember how many times he has yelled and called for Powell to be fired but so far, the only thing he can do is continue to go on social media to repeat the same nonsense. Updated: Elon has officially formed a new party, the "America Party," and let's see if Trump can expel Elon or what he can do. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Vod on July 06, 2025, 04:38:25 AM Updated: Elon has officially formed a new party, the "America Party," and let's see if Trump can expel Elon or what he can do. Man, I am sitting on a goldmine with elon.report. Wish I had the energy to develop it. :) Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: bias on July 06, 2025, 04:28:31 PM Updated: Elon has officially formed a new party, the "America Party," and let's see if Trump can expel Elon or what he can do. The problems that Elon will face if he indeed creates this political party are more than one, and all of them are huge to overcome, just because he has money. Trump has nothing to fear from this move. Plus, and most crucial, is that to be a US President, you have to be born in the US, and Elon isn't. So, from the start, we are talking about the total nothing. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Fiatless on July 06, 2025, 05:37:15 PM Honestly, if he could kick Elon out, cut funding for Elon's tech programs, or fire the Fed chairman...Given his character, and if he had the authority to do it, he would have done it a long time ago, not just go on social media and talk nonsense. I don't even remember how many times he has yelled and called for Powell to be fired but so far, the only thing he can do is continue to go on social media to repeat the same nonsense. I don't think Donald Trump has the power to sack the Fed's chairman. All he can do is insult and disrespect Jerome Powell on social media. Updated: Elon has officially formed a new party, the "America Party," and let's see if Trump can expel Elon or what he can do. Elon Musk's political party will flourish because the last elections proved that American elections can be influenced with money. The world's richest man has the money to buy the votes of many Americans. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Proty on July 06, 2025, 06:42:00 PM That is politics for you , politicians are not to be trusted because immediately they achieved there objective of gaining power and they see that can deal without you .They will immediately discard you ,that is what is happening to Elon musk . There was a time he was in good terms with trump but now Trump has fully taken control, the issue of deporting him is now coming in. Never trust politician because they will use and gain power and abandon you in the middle of the road.
Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Kagaru on July 06, 2025, 07:50:50 PM The problems that Elon will face if he indeed creates this political party are more than one, and all of them are huge to overcome, just because he has money. Trump has nothing to fear from this move. Plus, and most crucial, is that to be a US President, you have to be born in the US, and Elon isn't. So, from the start, we are talking about the total nothing. Yeah, it is a huge task to start a political party in any case, no matter how many funds you possess. The attention may just be caught by Elon and some resources that he has, but the fact is that it takes time and people to establish some political power. And you are correct in the nest eligibility matter since he was not born in the US his candidacy cannot run in the position of the president so that puts a limitation on the things he can directly be involved in. I believe that this step could stir up the discussion a bit, yet I suppose that Trump is unlikely to be ousted by Elon in the near future. Politics is not all about money or fame only.Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: uneng on July 06, 2025, 08:13:22 PM Who do you think will prevail? Trump or Musk? I think Trump is more vulnerable, because he is an elected politician, while Musk is just a politician.
Musk doesn't have any responsabilities and commitments. His job is to attack and to claim how things could be better if this or that was done. Meanwhile, Trump has to deliver results, otherwise people will start questioning him, potentially moving their support to Musk's fan club. Anyway, it's a dispute between two dangerous manipulators for a public of brainwashed individuals who lost touch with reality since wide access to internet was guaranteed to them. The less your life depends on these guys and their cultists, the better. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: BADecker on July 06, 2025, 08:58:55 PM Note that nobody can deport a man/woman out of America except that they agree with it... by agreeing that they are the 'person' on the deportation papers.
8) Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Iranus on July 07, 2025, 08:13:59 AM Plus, and most crucial, is that to be a US President, you have to be born in the US, and Elon isn't. So, from the start, we are talking about the total nothing. Did you see what ELon did in the early days of Trump's presidency when their relationship was still close? Elon looks like a president when he can freely enter and exit the White House, attend important meetings with Trump. Or even brought his youngest son into the Oval Office to play in front of the president's desk. This shows Elon does not need to be the official president to run the US. If his new party can take over the White House, he will have full control. Elon Musk's political party will flourish because the last elections proved that American elections can be influenced with money. The world's richest man has the money to buy the votes of many Americans. I also believe so, Musk's party will grow very strong because he not only has money but also has great influence in the United States as the richest man in the world. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: BADecker on July 07, 2025, 01:44:25 PM If Musk became president, his cleverness would outdo the MAGA that Trump is attempting to do.
Get the country back under US Treasury Notes, backed by gold and silver, rather than under the corrupt Federal Reserve Bank. 8) Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: bias on July 07, 2025, 02:42:27 PM Did you see what ELon did in the early days of Trump's presidency when their relationship was still close? Elon looks like a president when he can freely enter and exit the White House, attend important meetings with Trump. Or even brought his youngest son into the Oval Office to play in front of the president's desk. This shows Elon does not need to be the official president to run the US. If his new party can take over the White House, he will have full control. "Looks" from "being" is totally different thing. You can't start a party as the head of it, and stand out to put another in your place if you win. If Elon wants to be President of the US, he needs first to change the Constitution. And he can't. So, as I said, this is pure nothing. Elon Musk's political party will flourish because the last elections proved that American elections can be influenced with money. We didn't expect the last elections to prove this. It's well known that in every country of the world that they vote, money wins the elections. I also believe so, Musk's party will grow very strong because he not only has money but also has great influence in the United States as the richest man in the world. This isn't the first time that some wealthy guy wants to create a party different from the two known ones and crack the political monopoly. The last case was Ross Perot, back in the 1996 elections. The result? One of the strongest presidential showings by a third party or independent candidate in U.S. history, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_third-party_and_independent_performances_in_United_States_presidential_elections) but he didn't manage to carry a single state. So, being among Republicans and Democrats and expecting to win and break the two-party system with your money, it isn't as easy as many might think. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Vod on July 08, 2025, 05:29:26 AM This isn't the first time that some wealthy guy wants to create a party different from the two known ones and crack the political monopoly. The last case was Ross Perot, back in the 1996 elections. The result? One of the strongest presidential showings by a third party or independent candidate in U.S. history, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_third-party_and_independent_performances_in_United_States_presidential_elections) but he didn't manage to carry a single state. So, being among Republicans and Democrats and expecting to win and break the two-party system with your money, it isn't as easy as many might think. 1996! I remember that thin weak looking man, but obviously many bitcoiners won't. Not only did he not carry a single state, he took needed votes away and gave an easy win to the Democrats. That's exactly what the new America party will do; assuming ~10–15% of Americans like Musk. Of those, perhaps 20–30% may have a negative view of Trump. That gives a ballpark estimate of six to fifteen million people in the U.S. who like Musk but dislike Trump. Not enough to win, but enough to spilt the vote. Looks like Musk wants to be a world hero now. :) Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: OgNasty on July 08, 2025, 01:27:31 PM Speaking of deportation, the famous Alligator Alcatraz got its first victim yesterday as an escaped inmate cutting himself on barbed wire was then eaten in a swamp by alligators. His half eaten remains were found in the swamp after guards discovered the escape and went looking for him. Alligators 1 / Inmates 0.
Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: BADecker on July 08, 2025, 03:43:50 PM Speaking of deportation, the famous Alligator Alcatraz got its first victim yesterday as an escaped inmate cutting himself on barbed wire was then eaten in a swamp by alligators. His half eaten remains were found in the swamp after guards discovered the escape and went looking for him. Alligators 1 / Inmates 0. Could it be that 'half eaten' was all that any of the alligators could stomach? 8) Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: bias on July 08, 2025, 04:47:29 PM 1996! I remember that thin weak looking man, but obviously many bitcoiners won't. Not only did he not carry a single state, he took needed votes away and gave an easy win to the Democrats. That's exactly what the new America party will do; assuming ~10–15% of Americans like Musk. Of those, perhaps 20–30% may have a negative view of Trump. That gives a ballpark estimate of six to fifteen million people in the U.S. who like Musk but dislike Trump. Not enough to win, but enough to spilt the vote. Looks like Musk wants to be a world hero now. :) Even if Elon wins in a possible election race, there is 0 chance of being President. So, it's more than clear that this is a trick to either break the votes or... break the votes. ;D Speaking of deportation, the famous Alligator Alcatraz got its first victim yesterday as an escaped inmate cutting himself on barbed wire was then eaten in a swamp by alligators. His half eaten remains were found in the swamp after guards discovered the escape and went looking for him. Alligators 1 / Inmates 0. You mean the "Alligator Auschwitz" (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/07/everglades-migrant-jail-florida-trump); it suits this facility better. Plus, the teams are not two but three. Alligators, inmates, and pythons. Not even in the Colosseum did they have such a spectacle. Humanity and rights at their best... Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: justinlamode on July 08, 2025, 06:05:44 PM Today Donald Trump said he might consider reviewing Elon Musk's citizenship. So he might be deported to South Africa, a country Elon betrayed. It was he who promoted the claim that white South Africans are facing genocide. The issue between President Trump and Elon Musk true surprised me a lot and makes me realize the importance of being careful when dealing with humans. Who would have thought that the two men that worked together, make a lot of sacrifices to take power from the Democrats will suddenly turn fierce enemies. Inasmuch as I know that Donald Trump is a politician, I expected him to be able to handle the situation in a way that it will not appear like he used Elon Musk and dump him. That does not mean that Elon Musk does not also share on the blame. This is a lesson for everyone who is trusting politicians. Their focus is to use you and gain power. Immediately they gain authority you will be dumped because you have become useless. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Iranus on July 10, 2025, 02:55:42 AM So, as I said, this is pure nothing. His goal is not to compete with the other two parties and try to become the boss of the White House. Because it is not easy, and it will take decades for his party to mature and be able to compete directly with the Democratic and Republican parties. His goal is for the America Party to win a few seats in Congress, 5-6 seats in the Senate and 8-10 seats in the House of Representatives. If you follow US politics, most important bills passed in Congress are usually decided by very close votes, and Elon's goal is to use his party's votes to oppose bills that he thinks are pointless. OBBBA passed the Senate 51-50, the House 218-214, and what if the Elon party wins some seats in Congress? That's Elon's goal. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Bushdark on July 10, 2025, 07:49:49 AM Honestly, if he could kick Elon out, cut funding for Elon's tech programs, or fire the Fed chairman...Given his character, and if he had the authority to do it, he would have done it a long time ago, not just go on social media and talk nonsense. I don't even remember how many times he has yelled and called for Powell to be fired but so far, the only thing he can do is continue to go on social media to repeat the same nonsense. I don't think Donald Trump has the power to sack the Fed's chairman. All he can do is insult and disrespect Jerome Powell on social media. Updated: Elon has officially formed a new party, the "America Party," and let's see if Trump can expel Elon or what he can do. Elon Musk's political party will flourish because the last elections proved that American elections can be influenced with money. The world's richest man has the money to buy the votes of many Americans. Eleonw had really helped Trump win his last election and I hope he would give him that gratitude as his right hand man. Trump is a man that does care about what people think about him and that's why he would always write in social media about what he feels about something. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Fiatless on July 10, 2025, 08:20:28 PM This is not new and we have been seeing cases where money has been the major influence during election. I might be wrong, but I think that the relationship between Trump and Elon looks irreparable. Elon contributed financially to Trump's election because he wanted to benefit, but I don't see that happening again. The president decided to reduce the grants he gets from the government and even threatened to send him packing. Elon has decided to seek another path, which is to form a new political party. Eleonw had really helped Trump win his last election and I hope he would give him that gratitude as his right hand man. Trump is a man that does care about what people think about him and that's why he would always write in social media about what he feels about something. Trump has nothing to lose since he is not seeking a third term in office. Elon's target now is the members of Congress who refused to block Trump’s beautiful bill. With his money he might block their reelection. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Iranus on July 11, 2025, 09:01:47 AM I might be wrong, but I think that the relationship between Trump and Elon looks irreparable. You are absolutely right because their relationship exists based on benefits and exploitation, not because they have the same goals and mindset… so once the benefits between them are out of balance, breakdown is inevitable. In fact, this is not the first time Elon and Trump have disagreed, their relationship has been strained in the past. During the 2016 election, Elon criticized Trump and said he was unfit to be president and supported Hillary Clinton. Or in 2017: Musk was a member of Trump's advisory council but withdrew after Trump announced the US withdrawal from the Paris Climate Agreement. Or the 2020 election: Musk also expressed support for Biden over Trump. It can be said that their relationship was never harmonious, they only came together for their benefit. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: KingsDen on July 11, 2025, 05:55:59 PM I might be wrong, but I think that the relationship between Trump and Elon looks irreparable. You are absolutely right because their relationship exists based on benefits and exploitation, not because they have the same goals and mindset… so once the benefits between them are out of balance, breakdown is inevitable. In fact, this is not the first time Elon and Trump have disagreed, their relationship has been strained in the past. During the 2016 election, Elon criticized Trump and said he was unfit to be president and supported Hillary Clinton. Or in 2017: Musk was a member of Trump's advisory council but withdrew after Trump announced the US withdrawal from the Paris Climate Agreement. Or the 2020 election: Musk also expressed support for Biden over Trump. It can be said that their relationship was never harmonious, they only came together for their benefit. I so much knew that the relationship between Trump and Elon will not last. Those two dudes are very much ambitious and no one will agree to sacrifice for the other. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Fiatless on July 11, 2025, 07:40:01 PM Fiatless, you might be wrong and I assure you that their relationship is not irreparable. Any relationship that is politic is easy to repair because it is based on interest and nothing more. Trump has no problems with Elon's family and vice versa. It is just political misunderstanding and falling out. If they align again politically, everything will fall in place. You are right KingsDen. There is a saying that "in politics, there are no permanent enemies or friends, only permanent interests". If Trump decides to allocate more grants to Elon Musk's companies, their relationship might be restored. Politicians and businessmen are concerned about money and power and they can form any alliance to achieve these. I so much knew that the relationship between Trump and Elon will not last. Those two dudes are very much ambitious and no one will agree to sacrifice for the other. I also suspected that their partnership would not last because two captains cannot be on a ship. The richest man in the world cannot be loyal to any president. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: bias on July 12, 2025, 04:48:17 PM His goal is not to compete with the other two parties and try to become the boss of the White House. Because it is not easy, and it will take decades for his party to mature and be able to compete directly with the Democratic and Republican parties. His goal is for the America Party to win a few seats in Congress, 5-6 seats in the Senate and 8-10 seats in the House of Representatives. If you follow US politics, most important bills passed in Congress are usually decided by very close votes, and Elon's goal is to use his party's votes to oppose bills that he thinks are pointless. OBBBA passed the Senate 51-50, the House 218-214, and what if the Elon party wins some seats in Congress? That's Elon's goal. True, but in order to get any seat, you have to win states, and that won't happen. Nobody has done it, and Elon won't be an exception to this rule. No matter how much money he spends, he won't get anything. The political system of the US is built like this, and no matter how crucial the votes are, they are between two parties and that will never change. At least not this way and not from Elon. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: BADecker on July 12, 2025, 07:29:58 PM Musk's contract with DOGE has expired. In other words, his contract with government has expired. So, deport him out of US government, to America, with the loads of other people who are not in government..
8) Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Fiatless on July 12, 2025, 08:40:52 PM Musk's contract with DOGE has expired. In other words, his contract with government has expired. So, deport him out of US government, to America, with the loads of other people who are not in government.. Many countries will be willing to give Elon Musk citizenship if the US attempts to deport him. I guess Canada will want him to relocate most of his business to the country. The US will lose one of the smartest minds and a major employer of labour if Elon leaves. From my observation, Trump is just bluffing, I don't think he is serious. 8) Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: montaga on July 13, 2025, 05:39:31 AM If he keeps it up, he be disappearing soon or falling out the window, Russian style.
https://i.ibb.co/JWJLyp5C/Untitled.png (https://ibb.co/CpGdM9hW) What a gift it would be, free of US tax burden. https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/12/trump-revoke-citizenship-rosie-odonnell-00449920 Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: Marvell1 on July 13, 2025, 09:32:26 AM Musk's contract with DOGE has expired. In other words, his contract with government has expired. So, deport him out of US government, to America, with the loads of other people who are not in government.. Many countries will be willing to give Elon Musk citizenship if the US attempts to deport him. I guess Canada will want him to relocate most of his business to the country. The US will lose one of the smartest minds and a major employer of labour if Elon leaves. From my observation, Trump is just bluffing, I don't think he is serious. 8) Obviously Trump is just bluffing and I even believe that Trump would not dare to deport Elon even if he had the authority to do so. Expelling one of the world's greatest minds from the country over a personal conflict would be the dumbest move, and I don't think Trump's allies or advisers would let him do it. Not to mention, losing Elon would be a huge loss for the tech industry as well as the US economy, and even the average person is aware of that. Trump is not stupid and demented enough to not realize that. Title: Re: Elon Musk might be deported. Post by: BADecker on July 13, 2025, 12:25:06 PM Musk's contract with DOGE has expired. In other words, his contract with government has expired. So, deport him out of US government, to America, with the loads of other people who are not in government.. Many countries will be willing to give Elon Musk citizenship if the US attempts to deport him. I guess Canada will want him to relocate most of his business to the country. The US will lose one of the smartest minds and a major employer of labour if Elon leaves. From my observation, Trump is just bluffing, I don't think he is serious. 8) Obviously Trump is just bluffing and I even believe that Trump would not dare to deport Elon even if he had the authority to do so. Expelling one of the world's greatest minds from the country over a personal conflict would be the dumbest move, and I don't think Trump's allies or advisers would let him do it. Not to mention, losing Elon would be a huge loss for the tech industry as well as the US economy, and even the average person is aware of that. Trump is not stupid and demented enough to not realize that. Note that all men and women in America are men and women. They only become 'persons' on an indictment when they accept that they are the person named on the indictment. If a person named on an indictment or any other presentment by government, wants to see if they are that person, all they have to do it look for their signature on the document. If their signature is not there, the document is a sales pitch, inviting them to lower their status from man/woman to that of a 'person'. https://educationcenter2000.com/ 8) |