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https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/musks-son-lil-steals-spotlight-oval-office/story?id=118713138A few months ago, he was a prince, accessing every wing in the White House. He had unhindered access to the president's office and even went with his young son to the Oval Office. Today Donald Trump said he might consider reviewing Elon Musk's citizenship. So he might be deported to South Africa, a country Elon betrayed. It was he who promoted the claim that white South Africans are facing genocide. This is a lesson for everyone who is trusting politicians. Their focus is to use you and gain power. Immediately they gain authority you will be dumped because you have become useless. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/07/01/trump-musk-south-africa/84427588007/
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Do you think there is something going on between them that people do not no off?, because the both of them has been very close right from Donald Trump race in becoming the president of the United States so what could have made the president to say that, or was he joking with Elon Musk?, however even if he eventually does review his citizenship doesn't mean he will deport Elon Musk if all his credentials are real because with how prominent he is I don't think he would be operating in that country with a false citizenship.
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Trump will be smart enough not to deport Elon Musk, all of these are unnecessary tensions. You should know very well in US the role of technology developments Elon Musk plays in America. If Trumps wants to deport him how about Musk companies, will they also be stopped from operation, a lot will really go into pause so i believe Trump will rethink if he said so before taking any action. You can count how many countries will be willing to assign Elon Musk into their country to carry out the same innovative leadership as he did in America.
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a citizenship cant just be revoked due to not liking someone.. citizenship is more of a permanent thing compared to work/resident/student visa's, which can be revoked easily
there are only a few conditions that would allow revoking a citizenship, and the most used one is where the application and process of gaining citizenship initially is found to have had fraud involved in the process (sham marriages for instance)
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He’s not going to get deported, it’s just two massive egos in Trump & Elon going at each other. It’s quite immature in reality, you would expect better from two gentlemen of that standing. I would suggest that Elon tones it down a little though as Trump is the one holding the cards here.
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Deporting the richest man on earth would be the dumbest thing a country could do. It doesn’t matter what he does. That tax revenue is a real thing and nobody wants to turn their nose up at that money. It is what makes the world go around after all. The mere mention of it makes me think they are just play fighting.
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a citizenship cant just be revoked due to not liking someone.. citizenship is more of a permanent thing compared to work/resident/student visa's, which can be revoked easily
there are only a few conditions that would allow revoking a citizenship, and the most used one is where the application and process of gaining citizenship initially is found to have had fraud involved in the process (sham marriages for instance)
A press agent can't just be revoked due to not liking someone - but it was. A president can't just call in the national guard for nothing - but he does. Trump break rules and if Elon had a chance of winning a new political party much better funded than Trump's, I can see Trump deporting him for some reason, regardless if it's valid or not. The fake Democracy is over - Trump is making a dash for the crown. Today Donald Trump said he might consider reviewing Elon Musk's citizenship. So he might be deported to South Africa, a country Elon betrayed. It was he who promoted the claim that white South Africans are facing genocide.
Elon would come to Canada, not South Africa. We could use his money to build our pipelines to sell to anyone but the US - something Elon would agree with out of childish spite. “The easiest way to save money in our Budget, Billions and Billions of Dollars, is to terminate Elon’s Governmental Subsidies and Contracts. I was always surprised that Biden didn’t do it!” “In light of the President’s statement about cancellation of my government contracts, @SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft immediately” They are both childish and they both always chicken out. 
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And not just deportation that he's about to face. Also the cancellation and voiding of the contracts of his companies with the US government. Elon is triggering more of that to Trump's tweet and said to bring it on and do that immediately. Maybe because they've got enough funds to cover those losses and will just layover a lot of American employees that will also impact the US economy and that's why he's said that. It's no joke if Trump do that because it's not only Elon that will be cancelled there but also the employees that are also US citizens that will lose their jobs.
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If this is correct, and the courts can't stop Trump, then he might be able to do it: A justice department memo directing the department’s civil division to target the denaturalization of US citizens around the country has opened up an new avenue for Donald Trump’s mass deportation agenda, experts say. In the US, when a person is denaturalized, they return to the status they held before becoming a citizen. If someone was previously a permanent resident, for example, they will be classified as such again, which can open the door to deportation efforts. The memo, published on 11 June, instructed the justice department’s civil division to “prioritize and maximally pursue denaturalization proceedings in all cases permitted by law and supported by the evidence”. Immigration matters are civil matters, meaning that immigrants – whether they are naturalized citizens or not – do not have the right to an attorney in such cases. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/01/us-citizenship-denaturalization-trump-memops. "...do not have the right to an attorney in such cases" is a real surprise to me.
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ps. "...do not have the right to an attorney in such cases" is a real surprise to me.
Arrests and deportations without due process have been front page news for some time. Kings can pick and choose who they want in their kingdom. This is what Trump is effectively doing. Too much of an uprise to kidnap/deport a citizen, but if he is just a permanent resident then Trump is already kidnapping dozens of those a day. Who is going to protest Elon's removal? They've all been removed from the country.
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It is really amazing that the same person that has played the victim over and over about the legal prosecutions he has faced, has now the balls to clearly misinterpret the law and threaten an US citizen with deportation.
In any case, I think that Elon could probably buy his Citizenship anywhere else.
But what is real here and now is Elons threat to any politician that after promising to not raise the debt votes to actually raise the debt even more.
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lol this isn’t surprising at the very least this is what happens if you try to come for the president of the united states, you just don’t leave and move on with your life i wonder if trump will actually do it though or is he just bluffing to scare elon musk? what i’m surprised by is how fast they turned in on each other
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Musk is smart enough that he might simply move out of America. Besides, Trump doesn't have the authority to deport Musk out of the US, except, maybe, to 'deport' him to America. After all, the word 'person' is something that Musk and his people know the definition of. And they know that 'person' is only the name on documents. And they know that he is not that name... not the 'person'. If Musk or anybody makes this known, the United States loses, maybe, 90% of its authority over the people of America. It lies in the definition of the word 'person', because Musk and anybody can use the 6th and 7th Amendments as a man against the presidential non-authority. Office of the Person - https://redress4dummies.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/office-of-person1.pdf
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a citizenship cant just be revoked due to not liking someone.. citizenship is more of a permanent thing compared to work/resident/student visa's, which can be revoked easily
there are only a few conditions that would allow revoking a citizenship, and the most used one is where the application and process of gaining citizenship initially is found to have had fraud involved in the process (sham marriages for instance)
A press agent can't just be revoked due to not liking someone - but it was. A president can't just call in the national guard for nothing - but he does. Trump break rules the national guard can be called in.. and was, using legal methods.. no rules were broken press can be uninvited to attend white house press conferences.. no rules were broken ending someones citizenship is harder than a phonecall. that said.. .. if trump goes too far against supporting elon for things like the space missions, elon can simply take things abroad and voluntarily seek new citizenship somewhere else, im sure many countries would welcome him
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Musk never thought government overreach would affect him when he was supporting Trump’s draconian policies. The law means nothing to Trump, so just because it isn’t legal to deport him doesn’t mean that he wouldn’t try to do it. So far they’ve only targeted serious criminals for denaturalization, but who’s to say they won’t take it a step further and target political enemies. This already happened in the McCarthy era, and Trump supporters are openly calling for authoritarian measures that would strip certain Americans of their citizenship.
If Musk was deported or faced some serious retribution for turning against Trump, it might make other powerful billionaires turn against him also, that’s why I don’t think he has the balls to go through with it. Trump is too much of a grifter to burn those bridges.
Eventually, this feud will be settled by way of Musk putting money into the pockets of Donald Trump. Perhaps Tesla will announce they’ve acquired billions in USD1 for their strategic reserve.
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Politics is being played everywhere, if you can't beat them, then you must join them or rather leave them, though I want to believe that this is just an ordinary say, he might not mean it, as some of us have already contributed, once you're no longer showing the interest to work for these politicians again or as before, then they begin to wage war against you and cause many challenges to be arising, we have series of instances like this that have happened in the past and are even more worst that this.
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He’s not going to get deported, it’s just two massive egos in Trump & Elon going at each other. It’s quite immature in reality, you would expect better from two gentlemen of that standing. I would suggest that Elon tones it down a little though as Trump is the one holding the cards here.
I don't get fooled when two politicians go at each other, although some people can claim that Trump, is a politician while Elon Musk, is not but he played politics for Trump, to win. I wouldn't be surprised if their interests aligns again and they again become friends, I've seen enough high caliber people switch between friends and enemies. I doubt that Trump, can deport somebody like Elon Musk, the world's richest man over their misunderstanding. With Elon Musk's interests and contributions to American economic growth and power no president can deport him over none treasonable offenses. I just feel that Trump, is trying to send him a message that he's in charge, it's surely a subtle threat to let Musk, to know who's number one and in charge.
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July 02, 2025, 04:38:03 PM |
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He’s not going to get deported, it’s just two massive egos in Trump & Elon going at each other. It’s quite immature in reality, you would expect better from two gentlemen of that standing. I would suggest that Elon tones it down a little though as Trump is the one holding the cards here.
I don't get fooled when two politicians go at each other, although some people can claim that Trump, is a politician while Elon Musk, is not but he played politics for Trump, to win. I wouldn't be surprised if their interests aligns again and they again become friends, I've seen enough high caliber people switch between friends and enemies. I doubt that Trump, can deport somebody like Elon Musk, the world's richest man over their misunderstanding. With Elon Musk's interests and contributions to American economic growth and power no president can deport him over none treasonable offenses. I just feel that Trump, is trying to send him a message that he's in charge, it's surely a subtle threat to let Musk, to know who's number one and in charge. Imagine how liberals would react to Elon Musk getting deported. The United States would be completely dependent upon Russia for our space program and then the liberals who celebrated Elon getting deported would attack Trump and say he made us dependent on Russia for doing it. I guess that's why they want to push this fairytale so much. They can complain about everything throughout the entire process and we all know that more than anything liberals just want something to complain about.
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July 02, 2025, 06:21:59 PM |
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This is not new anymore, anyone trusting politicians is a baby unless they have their own inside, secret plan. Elon Musk is a big name, I doubt Trump can use him and go free without any consequences. What he can do, the tools he has, the internet and space control. My dear Trump needs to be careful. There is a reason why this information is circulating, maybe to destroy the relationship Trump have Elon Musk but it wont be possible. The relationship is not bound by trust but by agreements.
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Honestly, This is only hot air, I doubt Trump would even dare to mess with Elon Musk to the point of deporting him or try to strip his citizenship off him. Besides, taking the citizenship out of someone is something which cannot be done easily, usually it takes the person whose citizenship is being taken to have committed serious crimes against their mother country, like treason or being a spy. Anyways... All this fight between Elon Musk and Trump is just their giant egos trying to occupy more room than they possibly can with in sociopolitical scenario in the United States.
Instead of people talking about non-sense and gossip like news related to Trump and Musk, they are supposed to be looking to improve the state of the economy and the strength of the US Dollar, lately the value of the American currency has been nose diving in relation to the Euro and other Fiats, it seems nobody is talking about it.
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