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We are already, in most number of population. :D

Next?? ... vishwaguru already is bahubali in lot of things.

-Bakchodi with confidence
-Jugaad is real innovation
-Top grade Civic sense
-Best social justice model with complete focus on merit
-Superior Sepoy mentality
-Hi- iq nationalism
-High quality political class with lazer eyes political discourse.

Aside from sarcasm, let's analyze the reality and see what is happening.

Trump mentioned India's economy is dead economy even though we are at no.4 in GDP even surpassed Japan but in terms per capita we are at 136th position with the numbers around ($2,900) and this doesn't end with it, if we just remove 10 person from 1.4 billion the numbers will comes around $2200 and if we go deeper and let’s remove the top 1% then the numbers will be below $1000 which is on par with the poorest African countries so that is the reality gap between rich and poor is too big so to an extent we are dead economy. :-X

And our government is doing nothing to reduce the wealth concentrated at top 1% but they are doing everything to help the top 1% to make more money while ripping off the average middle class in every tax they can name it and also just keep bombarding with indirect taxes on everything.

When half of our population is concentrated around agriculture then how come we expect balanced Wealth distribution? Not to mention the poor productivity in agriculture.

Government should stick to just policies and maintaining law order but If someone wants public sector to create mass jobs then its literally gunning for licence raj. Leave wealth, jobs creation and business to private sector. For this we need thousands of adanis, ambanis, Tatas etc these folks will create jobs be it manufacturing or services, preferably the former because that's where majority of agriculture labour will move. Once we reach 8-10 trillion economy then we can have luxury of discussing wealth distribution but first focus should be on getting rich.

Money makes more money, rich people are bound to get richer, I don't think rich people can be blamed for having money, can they? (as long as it's earned via right means, of course)

As in, India being next super power, Indians ke aachar—vichar nhi lgte superpower jaise. Civic sense, cleanliness must be taught and that starts with right education, rote learning that runs in our education system must be uprooted.

Can the same not be applicable to every other democracy out there?

So in terms of superpower, obviously the rich are going to get maximal benefits and it will always tower over the dingy dark lit poor colonies. This is exactly what the cyberpunk genre has been always showing.

Part of it we are and thus we have to how we can use the situation to our advantage, always have the ambition to grow further and develop and we can also become an actual superpower country.

India is already  ;D

Haha
I cant understand you sarcasm.
Because I think all the things which mentioned is very important to be a superpower.

See think of a company. How it takes time initially, Then once it comes near that boom period it is unstoppable.
In context to India as a country. Right now the leadership is taking intrest in all the domains. No only owns but in other ones as well .
Which is a good strategy as the gdp boom period is very close.
Plus dont forget the spiritual changes happening the mustical powers being used haha Someone says that rituals are also taken place before doing something big. It is like some external power which is even playing on the other world domain is helping India.
Did you see the war thing ohh fuckk.
People were taking it as a drama show that kind of people believe in the leader.
No one was afraid ,people were eagerly waiting for the nights haha. 

I think the leaders are planning way to ahead of everyone.

Its so easy to tell this thing is wrong this should be like this.
But brother just thing for a sec about sitting on that position.
Even to take a small decision how many factors have to be thought about.

Broo
Have you seen the tourism of india.
Someone once told me if a foreigner onces visit india then the will definitely visit again. Plus he will tell others.
Have you seen the crowd in places like kasol.
Foreingers have settled here.
India is not just like any other country.
India have deep roots.
Everything had  a reason.
India is called the golden bird. (sone ki chidiya)

History repeats itself
and thats the rule of nature

I can quote each and every word of yours and give a essay on those but I don't judge

^ there are good places here and there, where foreigners might get good impression from but largely it's unclean and dense with people having no regard for their environment and having no civic sense.

Golden bird? I think we are past that stage.

Also, you should merge your different responses into one.

Bhai, It was a sarcasm.

Henry going full monty with his/her replies. Yaar (gender neutral term 😊) aise na karo reply, spam thread ban jayegi aise mein.

Speaking of tourism, ridiculous amount of potential here but atm it's chaotic and services are not up to mark due to various reasons ( need serious structural reforms from gov and society). At times, One can romantise the chaos a bit but not sustainable if you love travel.

The influence of vloggers gives an impression tothe  general viewer that we are doing good.

Reality is different, we are far behind in many ways and first thing as mentioned is about the cleanliness and the chaos nature in general when it comes to everything but these foreigners realized that if they post videos about India they will surely get the views in millions and can grow the their channel organically with less money spend for the package compared to any other country.

But medical tourism is real, people from different countries come here to get bthe est possible treatment at the most affordable price that they can't even get the diagnostic done in their nation, other than that people who want to stay here are very few unless their livelihood depends here.

^ I am glad you said this, this foreigner youtubers are cashing in on Indian population, we have this mentality of seeking validation from others and even more so from whites and they are taking advantage of that — you say few things about India or pertaining to any Indian and watch the views roll.

Yes lets not talk about money it is there brain they can use is anyway. Lets talk about the real things money is the second thing.
Cleaniness is a second thing as the 1st rule is to survive. Population is so much it takes time and we have a very diverse and ancient culture.
But see the kind of influence, can you understand the politics going , on which level people trust there leaders.
There strategies there executions there revenge styles.
India is going to be a superppwer any time soon.
a sudden pump in India's gdp can be seen after all this tariff thing.

FI's are taking keen intrest in Indian market.

Never going to happen, and I'm an optimist.

You can't simply give excuse of survival for uncleanliness, I have seen people who look well-off even do the same. Also, people should self reflect a bit, and understand clean surroundings helps with mental well being, it's for one's own good.

Regarding population, it doesn't even matter, every individual only needs to take the responsibility to clean his OWN mess, the whole nation's cleanliness will take care of itself.

The possibility of Indians taking ownership is next to impossible. We Indians love the idea of blaming others for everything.

Are you also deflecting responsibility here? Do you mean, I won't take responsibility for myself because rest Indians are irresponsible? 

Look, most people are conformist, the way current situation goes, one throws garbage anywhere, others do same, we must get out of this circle and make people conform to do the right thing or at least make a change with oneself and hope for a ripple effect.

As individuals, we should also keep cleanliness among our everyday goal. If everyone does this religiously, then the workplaces and neighborhoods will become clean by default.

But of course the roads and outside places are in the hands of the government, we can only contribute to their cleanliness to some extent.

I think we as individuals should maintain and do our part of the work properly - someone should not be able to point a finger back at us for not doing something with quality.

Log apna ghar saaf karna nhi bhulte, in fact everyone loves to keep it clean but when outside, the very same people go full retard and then "chalta hai, apne ko kya" aur "kuch nhi ho skta inn logo ka"  "mere akele se kya hoga" attitude kicks in. In reality, sometimes i am also guilty of such irresponsible behaviour.

Jab india se bahar hote hai, tab aisa kuch nahi hota but wapas aate hi phir bekaar aadat suru ho jati hai automatically. Na chahte huye bhi, ho hi jata hai kuch na kuch be it breaking traffic rules or something else.

Nope! Not in next 100 years!

Unless India can retire the bureaucracy from the system, India will never be a superpower. I mean it! I have worked very closely with multiple state governments and I know how this system works.

Ease of doing business is a joke in India. If you want to start a factory, you will need almost 56 licences just to begin operation. This procedure takes not less than 2 years. It's no wonder why rich people are leaving India forever.

Media houses are boasting about being one of the largest economies. The reality is that India is behind Bangladesh when it comes to per capita GDP.

Unless bureaucracy is removed from the system, nothing is going to change for next 100 years.

I just heard pakistan saying abput they have nuclear the man sitting on the throne right now in India is a very notorious man.
He is not afraid nor his country is afriad. He know how to take oppurtuninties.
This warning will definitely be used somehow by India.

All those taking in terms of finance I dont want to argue.
India is a land of rulers.
The soil is mixed with culture ans blood. We Indians are born fighters because long time ago people stole us.
But Beacuse it was ours it will come back to us thats the rule of nature.
So finance wise speaking growth of a company is different and growth od nation is different.
Everything is fair in love and war haha

Well, there is a faster way and someone can get it done in matter of days which we consider as an impossible task but all we need to do is just pay them a commission of 5 -10% or whatever their demands are and things will go smooth as butter. ::)

We also can see some honest government officials but they will be tossed year after year for doing their job in the way it is supposed to be.

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About the rules and civic sense we are pretty aware but we chose to ignore it because no one is going to punish us for littering in public. But the same individual who will be working in another country where they follows every traffic rules, no honking and everything but the moment they enter the Indian airport the desi mode will be activated.

See if you are taking about licenses and everything dont talk about business with me.
Do you even know how many without license under the hood bussiness are operated by people not just in india in the entire world.
If you know business no one can stop you from achieving your goals.

People is the biggest benifit trust me when I say this see yoday I will teach you bussiness  Don't you think there is an advantage of population.
And Indians are pretty hard working you love them you hate them but you cant ignore them..
And loans are so easy nowadays see the leader once leaded a state from that day till today never have there ever ruled any other party and trust me that state is amazing.
Visit Gujarat if you are looking for real tourism and culture with development and civic sense.
Now he is leading the entire country.
I'm not a bhakt but you cant ignore the fact that people are now stopping the trend of free services and asking for govt jobs private sectors are giving people good money .
And people are evolving.

See when there is a change of Decades we might have to adapt ourself with the latest trend.
everyone has to and people are also its nowadays pretty easy to make 40k people are making by swiggy zomato rapido blinkit and stuff.
So thats a good thing right
10years back where we were and were we are now.
And where we will be think think

I guess that's exactly where we are lacking behind. Foreign countries have strict rules and punishment/fine even for the basic things.
May be that is why now it has become their habit to maintain the cleanliness but that's not the case with India.
We don't have any fine for littering and people litter without any fear. I used to think many times why don't we have fine for littering.
May be India imposes a minimal fine may be then people will start taking it seriously.

I am also, but if you feel guilty then at least you know you should have done better and you did not, you do better next time to make amends.


Not sure, I have watched plenty content on yt and read on Reddit where there are videos/talks of Indians littering even in foreign lands. Although, there probably they are forced to have accountability and may learn their lessons.

When someone is trying to open a business in India, they are generating employment. Employment means money in the hand of common people. Which means increased purchasing power. It again means more consumer spending. It's a chain!

So it's a pity that business people have to pay commission to the bureaucrats and government Babus to get their job done.

Honest officials are less than 1% in Indian system. Bureaucracy needs to be completely eradicated from the system if India wants to become a developed country.

Exactly. Even I have seen videos on instagram where Indians in foreign countries are doing the same thing they do here.
Just yesterday, I saw a video where few Indians were bathing with soap in a beach/river thus contaminating that water.
Few days ago, there were red spots like gutka near the trash in London probably. So yeah, Indians are spreading their habits across the world.

We have a thought like we are not China because we lack the infrastructure yes it is true but we can become one in 10-15 years. But I just wonder how many startup ideas never see the light because the documentation and approval stuck in the desk for months and the VCs pulled out of the project. ::)

We want India to become superpower like US or China but the system is not designed to work even if we do everything that needs to be done and it's not just the honest officials we also need the right policies and on time approval instead of just keep them waiting for no reason. One good thing is we are making everything online and it should progress to the next level paper works too so these officials have no choice either approve or reject and there will be no more pending.

Some of their habits will never change, but we ourselves have to be the change and make sure we never do something that makes the country look bad.

Stuff on social media always have such negativity, its better to avoid watching such stuff.

I would say that development here is skewed to some states and it is time consuming unlike many other countries but we are still doing it and that is what matters.

Yes those are some rare exceptions but most of them will behave in the way they are supposed to be and if not they will get into deep trouble. I have been to other countries and where they drive car by following all the rules and even Indian driving license got some power in other countries, where getting a driving license while we have valid Indian one will be easy.

India progressed a lot compared to where we were in the last 20 years that is true, but we fulfilled our potential to grow then we haven't yet.

India sure does have a lot of room to grow and what you say is true that it has developed a lot over the last few years.
On the other hand, Indian people's civic sense hasn't seen much growth yet.
People have been doing the same mannerless things that they have been doing over the years.
That is something that needs a rapid change if we have to progress competing with other countries.

^^ majority of civic sense situations could be solved quickly if we have some sort tuglaqi farmaan about every civil servant (top to bottom), judiciary and politicians to send their family and kids to gov school, hospitals, public transport etc.

Then babus and law makers will care about good policies and on top of that excute on ground level with consequences to offenders.

LOL! Why those outbursts? Is that not proof that you have typecast me? This is why I said that Indians kabhi bhi nahi sudherenge.
I guess you have not seen the world beyond your boundaries. You should have explored more while being in India. You should visit Indore if you know what I mean. I am not in this country as I have seen it, experienced it, yet I know how Indians work as I have experienced it outside Indian land. I will again say the Indian community and Indians are a different entity.

Lol, that will be an epic situation though  ;D That is really a wonderful idea and something that I wish to happen.
This raises a serious concern that if government officials itself don't send their kids to government school then why would others.
What is the point of collecting the taxes when you can't improve the education system of government schools.
Will building big statues using people's money solve this ?

It was a question.


I am well aware of Indore's cleanliness, also of Sikkim, and of Asia's cleanest village Mawlynnong in Meghalaya, although I haven't been there, sure.

There are always exception, but nation is judged on majority.

Back in 2016 Niti Aayog did recommended it mildly but guess it didn't get much traction.

No cookie for the guess, why? bureaucrats and politicians won't let that happen. Hence said, need tuglaqi farmaan and if someone scream autocracy they should get a belt treatment but million dollar question is who will bell the cat?

These are indeed exceptions and other states and countries should try to learn from them. It does not mean that the above mentioned places dont have any problems, but these are exceptional things among them.

Our country has often put in money in places that dont need them instead of spending on things that are needed. But we cannot change the ourselves, it is ultimately the decision of the politicians running the government.

After every change of government as well, the basic structure remains same and the new party simple rules over the spoils of the last one.

Cleanliness is one thing but one  major thing which we must have to look into is to stop giving freebies to others .
Reservation and freebies must be given on the basis of income not on other factors.

Many Citizens are leaving citizenship as taxpayers are not getting any facilities as of this moment . Taxpayers are just doing charity .

I really don't think so until we get rid of poverty which is quite difficult because of the population. Also the current super powers have a grid and will not let their positions slip away. India is definitely showing great progress every year still might be far away from becoming a super power.

I don't think we really want to become a superpower. We are quite happy as we are and have gained a respect around the globe. India has friendly relations with most superpowers so why to take their place when we can be friends with them?

Yeah, way too many people, gov should give benefits to people who breed less than who have more kids (i.e, ration per member as it goes currently), also the free contraceptives.


Not sure about respect, because I frequently see Indians facing racism videos.

More people means more votes. :D

Indians are not respected anywhere in this world as a human, they will be based on their financial status but if you went for a job and there's other country people in the similar job status and they will all look down the Indians which is the fact. And we created this on our and also by the western media by keep showing only the bad side of India but now with social media there are some changes about how they see India but we still got a long way to go and it's only possible when we make some changes on our side.

I think we are already are a superpower at some extincts.
Culture plays a very important role into this.
If you try to look at INDIA I think it is the best country to live in.
Yes population , traffic, income are some things.
India is not just a country it has 29 states each which there own languages , there own culture , there own festivals , there own stories ....
It is one of the biggest centre to spirituality .
The problem is with the thinking we always felt that other countries are better in terms of living and everything ...

All my friends who went to other countries says that money is great but woh baat nhi hai joh apne desh mai hai haha.

We believe in peace , We believe is atithi devo bhava , We are the biggest jugadus, We have been told from the childhood to feed & help anyone who needs help.

Plus the entire year is filled with so many festivals which we all celebrate and this festivals make our bondings strong .

We should never forget our roots our history , Every country since the beggining took keen interest in and around the areas of INDIA .

I can make a bet that we have that knowledge about the cosmos/bhraman that not any country have .

Plus you see the behaviour of others towards us aur us towards others .Indians in other country are not treated in the way we treat others in our country that is the beauty .

Its not just about money and power ,every country has nukes it wont it even take 1 day to ruin everything . What kind of world do we want . A world filled with happiness and peace and positivity or people just thinking about themselves . Money is never enough , Power is never enough .
And if we go into history we will see that things which looked impossible also became impossible ref mahabharata , ramayana etc etc haha
I think today the best game in the entire world is being played by INDIA .
There is no fear of anything in the minds of INDIANS .
WE HAVE SURVIVED ALMOST EVERYTHING ON A POSITIVE NOTe that is the beauty .

India is on the right track, but it needs to fix infrastructure, education, and governance to truly become a superpower. If it can overcome these challenges, I see India rising into superpower status in the next few decades.

True.
And INDIA is working on all this .
From good highways to bullet trains,
From women empowerment to women rights,
From Made in INDIA to Make in INDIA,
From space to ocean ,
Every sector is being looked into.

^^ not trying to spread negativity but from national security perspective.

-Our defence procurement policy is in mess. Less we talk about jet engines the better, i gets into depression whenever I think about kaveri engine and our dependency on GE-F404 for tejas. Barring the engine fiasco pvt sector is picking up pace but defence babus like videsi maal too much because of their cuts.

- atm we are not doing too great in launching our own satellite. Recently we had a major setback on launching spy satellite.

Because our leaders believe in diplomatic solutions which is not wrong but we also should focus on showing who we are then only we will not be forced into doing something. And we are not spending that much to defense compared to other nations but we also known for creating things at much economic cost compared to others. It will take time but we are on the path but our leaders are entirely focused on state elections and whenever they need support from people they will do something that gives them short term relief.

Even timbaktoo focus on diplomacy so these guys on top not doing something new or out of the box. Diplomacy plays big role and considering our size, yahan par sare department understaff hai.

Modi talks big but jab project funding ki baat aaye toh sabka randi rona start ho jata hai. These folks thinks that some country will spoon fed them all the cutting age tech. To his credit he did bring agniveer scheme, it will give dividends in long term, warna sara defence budget pension mein hi jana tha.

Elections every 6month is huge issue and big distraction. I hope, one nation one election gets a green light, even if there is any political cost to any party.

Have you seen the video of modi ji I dont know if it was AI or not but he literally said I dont care the source of money, Even if it Black or White Even if it is some kind of fake currency .I want    make in india and made in india and compaines with sweat of indian people .
There game plan is unimaginable.
That is the reason I said India next superpower