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It is very obvious that with the 20 century there are still billions of people that lack safe water, sanitation and hygiene because of the air population all over the world, more especially those countries that are oil producing countries there water has been conterminated with oil spillage and there is know fatilize in the soil to grow crops like before, and constant borning of fire in several industries that needs the attention of the government to help the people leaving within the society but seems that government can't do anything to help people leaving around to make the environment look so clean and hygiene for drinking, the government fold there hands because those industry companies paid heavy tasks to the government, which result the increase of people who lack safely managed drinking water over 2.1 billions, 1.7 billions lack basic hygiene service at home  and 3.4 billions people are without safely managed sanitation which government failed to regulate properly in the air population which also reduces life spem.


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My favorite current conspiracy theory (aliens aside) that nobody seems to be talking about is the coming manufactured water shortage.  The WEF is already pushing this as their next plan.  I believe Klaus Schwab was behind the DEI movement (and the conspiracy theory there is that he was behind the trans movement as well).  Peter Brabeck-Letmathe who was famous for saying water wasn't a human right has been added to the board and their new interim CEO said, "No water, no life. No sanitation, no dignity. No shelter, no security."

I believe with Klaus Schwab no longer running things, we are going to see a shift from DEI being rammed down our throat, to having clean drinking water being a privilege.  I'm not sure what that means exactly, but I have a feeling we will all know 10 years from now.  The best thing you could do as an individual to protect yourself would probably be to make sure you have your own well for water or invest in water stocks to make sure you can always afford to pay for premium water if things get out of hand.  One ticker symbol to look at might be AWK.

Also interesting is how Mr Beast is getting flamed online nonstop for building water wells in Africa.  Water will be the big story of the future, although it will probably take a while before regular folks notice.

Clean water is the tip. Wherever Monsanto's Glyphosate is used, there is a small amount of snake venom being introduced into nature. Not only that, but Monsanto and others have found a way to used e coli to manufacture venoms automatically. And they are spreading it where ever Glyphosate is used.

Sure clean water is a necessity. But shutting down Monsanto and similar companies is a MUST. Big Pharma is behind it, to slowly poison people so they go to the medical for cures. Guess who makes money.

Check with Dr. Ardis. The evidence is right out in the open, and Ardis shows how to understand it.

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My community has experienced an oil spillage, which didn't just destroy water bodies but also the land and air. This has caused health problems, Job losses and other problems that relate to pollution became the order of the day.

The main issue now is that when these oil companies pay compensation for the damages, corrupt government officials and traditional rulers will syphon a large chunk of the money, and peanuts will be given to the main victims.

We cannot stop these exploration and industrial activities, but they should abide by global environmental safety standards. And when there are incidents of oil spillage, the necessary steps, such as providing an alternate source of water, environmental cleanup and compensation, should be carried out fairly and transparently.

The problem is that the community people might die of hunger because their farmlands have been polluted which will kill the crops and the river where these community people get drinking water is also polluted, killing aquatic animals and making the river unfriendly for fishing. I feel that the government are not the problem but our heads that represent us are the snakes and vipers.

The main occupation of people in this area is fishing and farming. Some of them had to migrate to urban areas to survive while others took to crime. I will continue to blame the government. You don't need to give community leaders money to distribute.  Clean up the mess, give the people an alternative source of income by building industries, and develop infrastructure. Financial benefits should be paid directly to the people after identity verification.

As a boy we had access to spring water which in basic school we were taught that it's among the best source of water. After a while when I got to a different location, tap water was introduced to us, although it wasn't healthy but that was the only option. At first, It didn't get me sick, but after much daily consumption of this kind of water I fell really sick and never went back to it, over the years I've stayed glued to spring water because my locality has lots of rock around and water easily flow through it non-stop.

In as much as, we should invest in drinking clean water, finding the right source is quite not easy for most people in different areas. There are places where after much drilling into the ground, in feets, water wouldn't flow, they have no choice than to relent or go back to drinking stream water, which isn't always healthy. The issue of water is a problem because the body could break down as a result of poor hygiene and pollution. In that case, steaming the water is by far the only way to retain a healthy drinking water from an unhealthy source.

Of the truth the government or the authorities to whom it may concern with the gas refineries industries and the oil drilling system in some countries especially in Africa isn't managed properly prioritizing that healthy first before wealth. These mechanisms have effects of oil spillages on the soils which could cause infertility soils for plants and agricultures, unhealthy water for consumption and as well inhalation of polluted air which are all unhealthy for lives.
These mechanism pollution is also what has been responsible of the global warming on the climate changes with the hot temperature we experiences on the regular basis.

There are a lot of charities & organisations that work really hard to provide clean drinking water for people. First World countries spend a lot of money on aid but sadly it’s not enough, there are still many places on earth that inhabitants do not have access to clean water. It really shouldn’t be happening in modern times but sadly it is.

My country is a typical example of this countries that is been affected by this oil spillage even to an extent that our crops don't yield good friut like before, and not only that people have been suffering from one sickness and the other and I'm pretty sure that those gas they're disposing out thier also have a hand in all this sickness that has been happening all this while. But the government did absolutely nothing about it, and the people that is been effected the most is those who are living in the village. Because the water we use in the city is well Refined,  that is why those who are living in the city always look strong and healthy they don't fall sick so easily why those who are in the village easily fall sick due to the fact that the environment they're living is not conducive for them.

Nice thread Op. Not sure of what you meant by 20 century, but i want to assume that you meant 21st century, because that's the era that we're currently living, and so many countries still found themselves in the dark despite having the same solution to tackle their own problem. Water pollution is a very big problem in today's world despite with the advancement in technology, then you start to wonder the exact part of the world that sees this developments. The thing is, even without being told, i already know a few countries that suffer this problem of uncleaned water.

It's quite a shame that majority of the governments in those countries knows well about these issues, but they make it look like providing a clean water is a very big deal. You won't be surprised, making sure that people don't get access to clean water might literally be someone else's intention, probably just to see people suffer.

Yes, like the one that I have watched recently from Mr.Beast - Team Water. They're helping to provide clean water to communities and gets to do that with the aim to help people to have at least a clean and safe water to drink. The goal is to help 2M people to get water that's safe to drink and that's a good initiative because many of the content creators with huge following from different countries have come together and united in this one very purpose that Jimmy has initiated. It's not only about the clean water but also they did one before about cleaning sea.

the next technology/industry era will be desalination. and it will be lucrative. more so than solar

climate change is real and caused by humans,. but not in the normal hippy promoted way. of "carbon= global warming"
instead water streams into reservoirs, drains into pipes and we have urbanised land to not allow rainfall to just fall to the ground and evaporate back up in a water cycle then soiling the water with all the road waste and housewaste. after flowing through urban landscapes, sewerage plants which when a rainstorm happens those sewerage plants dont have things prepared and instead just push it all out unfiltered, sending soiled black/grey/brown water into nature of rivers and oceans. calling it "storm overflow"

so not only are things like gathering water into reservoirs which hinders how much can evaporate at the top of the water shed, the water is then soiled at the bottom
so not only affecting the water cycle which then produces less rain per year, but also reduces how much healthy clean water is available at the bottom

and continual negative spiral meaning clean drinking water from nature becomes less and less per year

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this is going to result in new industry needing to push for desalination facilities to clean, filter and de-salt sea water ready for consumption. and because there is money in this industry, and to make this industry worth investing. they need to cut the competition(nature) out.
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after hype of investing in solar, wind, gigafactories.. the next hype will be desalination.. its coming for your pockets
solar was a business of selling a couple panels and never seeing a customer again for 1-2 decades.. desalination is the bigger business of monthly bills or death

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we need to bring back the normal water cycle
a. allow water to just flow over large land masses as thin puddle layers to give the sun time to evaporate it, not piped underground/ pushed into deep reservoirs
b. we need to allow excess water to soak into the land and keep the land alive and not turn baron(allow natural aquifers to replenish)
    -  this includes rainforests and lands that are not just sand/dust due to over farming/over grazing of domestic cattle/wild animals
c. we need governments to ensure sewerage plants are cleaning urbanised water, and utilising it ways to allow nature to evaporate it back into the water cycle

Desalination is already a mature technology.    It was first used over 2,000 years ago and in the last 70 years it has been perfected.  But it cannot provide salt free water for all our needs.    First of all, it is very energy intensive - to cover all human needs would take about about half our energy consumption, so with fusion it would be possible.  But where do you put all the brine?  Desalination produces slightly more brine than fresh water, and it's way too salty for marine life.  Anywhere brine is ejected will become a dead zone, so we will need to spend billions to spread the brine out widely throughout the ocean.  Desalination is a very short term solution.

"mature" old tech methods. but new industry research into new methods is happening. and quickly

some industrialists are suggesting the rise of the need of lithium(battery chemical) and other stuff found in the brine of desalination, is where this rise of desalination industry will first expand and will then expand further from those industries to then cater to using water extraction from those industries to be used for drinking

"free" water.. thats the laugh.. it wont be free.. and thats where the industrialised have glistening dollar signs in their eyes
the desalination industry will expand. and the brine has other uses. more dollar signs  in their eyes. the gift that keeps on giving unless nature takes back the water cycle

dont think of it as beginning with extracting water and leaving the brine. think of it as beginning with extracting the brine for lithium compounds for industry, minerals for other industries, where water is the by-product.. where by later water is then taken on as the new useful sellable product. and later where water becomes the prime product

New methods to turn brine saltier?   Right now we get 48% fresh water 52% brine with current technology.    If you want to squeeze more fresh water out of each cubic meter, you are going to be left with saltier water; no technology can solve this. 

I can see one possible future, but humanity won't make it - process 100% of salt out of water and use the 100% brine to built salt batteries.  This will lower sea levels, and combat sea level rise.  Ocean salinity would not change, so sea life would be unaffected.   It's a good medium term solution while we reduce carbon emissions.

Well you have made a good point in your descripancy but however this Last paragraph I bolded, I don't think it's true. It is the duty of Government to check for the welfare of it's citizens despite settling the community leaders. I think they need to supervise the village and community to see if the porpose at which those community development fund are paid for are really done. Because huge fund may be paid by government for community development and it may be shared among this greedy village elders, but if government supervise This project if its done or not, it will make this men to be serious in rural development and stop sharing those funds.

This is the reality of people living in the south south as it is called in Nigeria, they are the oil producing communities in Nigeria, yet they suffer a lot of lack. Their lands are polluted by oil, their rivers are also polluted by crude oil, I heard that clean drinking water is a problem and water has to go through different rigorous stages of purification before it is manageable for drinking. In my area in the south west we depend on borehole drilled water directly from under the earth to drink, although we treat it. Government supplied water through pipes is almost none existent.

A lot of people in the world don't have access to clean water and this is a very big issue, clean water should be the most common thing human should have access to buy because of some situations people are not having access to it, this set of people that are not having access to clean water has government my question is what is there government doing about the matter the answer is nothing, some government has failed the people if you can't provide clean water for your citizens you have failed.
Majority cause of not having clean water in some places is as a result of work that is going on in those areas especially those areas with crude oils.
Some places don't even have water and that is why some set of people has taken it upon themselves to provide clean water for this people.

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A global wave of creators, led by MrBeast and Mark Rober, launched the #TeamWater campaign in August 2025 with the goal to raise $40 million to provide clean water for 2 million people.
And they have already started providing clean water for some set of people if you want to assist by donating to it I believe you can search for it and support.

Our government really need to do something about this issue of lack of water because if it continues like this it will lead to something else, water is a free gift and people should have access to the best of it which is clean water.

it can does and will get more water out of brine. and i think by your next sentence below, you know this


exactly humanity wont make it, but industrialists will.. as i said before, forget the industry starting at the water capture side of humanitarian aid of free water.. that dream wont work ecologically nor economically
think from the industry profit side. getting the salts out of sea water. and then with many brine farms evaporating the water out to get the lithium, capture 99% of the water from the entire process leaving the sediment to be farmed on land for resources. and selling the evaporate-condensate to the water utilities, keep building that process out until we are entirely dependant on that industries water capture

carbon emissions are not whats messing with the water cycle. its the lack of water being allowed to just sit on open land to evaporate.

a test anyone can do right now in your own yards
get three glasses of water
pour one into a sealed pipe.
pour one onto a flat surface to make a thin puddle
keep one in the glass
put the sealed pipe and the full glass in your back yard and the wait the day to see which of the 3 water experiments evaporated first

the pipe and full glass represent sewers and reservoirs. the puddle is open land.. spoiler: the puddle evaporates 100% first

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as for fears of iceburg melting
get yourself a glass of water and icecubes.. topped to the rim of the glass, wait for the ice to melt in the glass. notice how the glass wont overspill.
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its not the risk of iceburgs melting to cause sea level rise. its that land subsides into the sea due to land movement
enjoy that research

The government don't feel the direct impact of such negligence as much as the community leaders does and so, the blame is going to be towards the community leaders who take up bribe only to allow Thier people suffer and die from the diseases some of them get from drinking some of these unhygienic water.

Most areas that serves as host community to big multi national oil companies face these issues of poor access to good water supply due to spillages of the oil resources. The resident of the affected community are usually andicapped because by the collaboration of the community leaders and the government to only focus on getting the resources while neglecting proper sorting out of the welfare of the host of such companies, you can't really do much but have to cope with the bad water or migrate to a better environment that's not affected.

They don't feel it because they usually have a kind of water they drink while the poor drinks from the ordinary water that's not pure, definitely the community is supposed to hold the person that's in charge for the maintenance of the water because in every development that comes from a good source usually comes with every other means of maintaining the development so that it will serve the community positively without causing them sickness but because of selfish and ignorant people that might be giving the contract of providing for anything that is required will be doing everything for there pucket without considering the sickness is resulting. Anything that's going inside the stomach shouldn't be taking for granted because it can easily cause harm especially water that is not clean, there are some tanks most communities use for two years without cleaning or washing and when you look inside there are so many particles that shouldn't be there but is being overlooked and people will just be drinking from it which could lead to a lot of sickness.

I'm not an expert but decreasing access to water is a real thing I have seen with my own eyes. The places which used to have plenty of underground water are now dry and there's no water coming from under the ground. Similarly there are places with natural water flow which has just stopped.

Water still is an issue of well management and if managed properly taking the available water to where its needed, it won't be a very big problem even for decades to come.

The steady extraction of water from aquifers adds to the reason behind ground water drying up in some places. I was just thinking of an artisian well in my area that pumps on its own nonstop, morning till night. And it's always wasting, people go there to wash legs, and fetch for usage, such water are also good for consumption, but, while it wastes it reduces the rate of water in the ground.

A solution it would be to pipes from the facility to some marine current, in order to distribute the brine evenly in the sea and avoid negatively affecting sea flora and fauna around the coast where desalinization takes place.
Also, I have the impression people underestimates de potential of fusion as a source of energy, to be honest, if in the future governments of developing countries can access fusion reactors, then energy would cease to be a problem for the production of clean water and transportation of water to communities which actually need it the most.

Nuclear fusion is pretty much the same of having a small star producing heat in the core of a power facility, those highs temperatures would be translated to better efficiencies and maximum yield of energy. One could only wonder whether developed countries would be okey with developing countries having access to such important technology in the long term.

 ;)  Nothing has changed since the first time I researched it twenty years ago.


AI thinks the best way is to evaporate until pure salt is left.  They also mention the Dilution and Dispersion method, but those pipes are expensive, prone to leaks and damage the seafloor.

Fusion is not an instant solution to everything.  Let's say AI doesn't take us over by 2030 and we achieve profitable fusion. 

The power required to extract water from brine increases very fast as the concentration of salt becomes higher, so it would be counterproductive to evaporate all water from brine and take the salt inland, in order not to affect coastal life. It would be a trade of for the sake of keeping local marine species untouched. A solution it would be to take all the brine to a different facility, store it and sell it to international market. Sea brine is valuable for the production of cosmetic products and it is appreciate in spas and beauty parlors, so clients can have access to baths of salt.

That solution would imply even a higher initial investment, but it would need no marine life would suffer from the effect of highly concentrated brine in coastal areas

What do you expect the government to do for you? Get a borehole and dig pure water in every houses? Please tell me.

I think is is right time we stop calling the government for everything, and things that we can provide for ourselves. Without the government, many private individuals can provide clean water for people who dont have access to it. It doesn't cost so much that a private individual cannot afford to do it. At the same time, personally we should dig a bore hole, and get clean water for ourselves, it wont kill us if we do it and stop waiting for the government. Its our health that at risk not theirs.

google:
jakarta sinking
New york sinking
depleted aquifers causes land subsidence

generally look into land subsidence.. where land sinking is where "sea level" rise occurs more, due to how/where "sea level" is measured from/by

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but really do try a home-science experiment. fill a glass with ice cubes and fill the gaps with water.. heck double experiment. fill the gaps with orange juice
then leave the glass contents to melt and see if there is overspill from the melt. or just dilution of the contents to be less orangy

the only fear of iceburgs is the salinity of the water, not the amount
you could have learned this in school.. water when it freezes takes up 9% more space/volume when its frozen.. in short the more ice there is the more space the oceans take up.. less ice, less space taken up

or if you want to see it for yourself. get an icecube tray. fill each compartment with 90% filled water. then freeze it. and notice once its ice. the ice is filling the compartments and bowing out of the top

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funny fact: david attenborough the big ecology name chanting about iceburgs breaking up. loves to visit the poles in a icebreaker ship, any logical mind would know that the poles would have a better chance to replenish itself and grow if the edges are not continually cut


way they mine lithium from sea water economically and least technical cost is to take large piece of flat land and just fill the ground with thin layer of sea water, allow the sun to evaporate the water, crack the crust, move the crust. repeat
but instead of just letting the evaporate enter the air, they could greenhouse it. to keep heat in and collect the evaporate, condensate it and then distribute that condensate to the local population(after filtering ofcourse)

What is wrong with you?  I learned this over 20 years ago, and the physics have not changed.  Why are you trying so hard to argue something I agree with? :(

i was highlighting how you though current tech only allows 48:52 ratio of water vs brine
i was highlighting how you mention sea level rising
i was highlighting how you think its impossible to offer free water to the world
i was highlighting how you think brine needs to return to the sea

by correcting you that:
sea levels are not on the rise but land is subsiding
sea levels wont rise due to iceburg melts/"carbon"
that methods used today in this era of lithium mining can get a 99:1 evaporate:salt ratio
-but with added evaporate-condensate tech to capture then utilise that 99% to not need to send brine back to the sea

and previously highlighting how humanity wont offer free water, industry will charge people for water. once they control/ shrink the competition(nature)

and with that last statement, industrialist will expand lithium mines, but not just let the evaporate go into helping the water cycle(sky-clouds-nature), they will greenhouse and sell it to the locals

you can already see how reservoir owners are filling reservoir with a top layer of black plastic balls to prevent evaporation back to nature from reservoirs

OK.  It appeared you were trying to highlight the point that sea level rise is only affected by ice deposits on land - I thought that was common knowledge.  A melting iceberg will not add any additional sea level other than when it was calved from the land. 

Before you go planning free water for everyone, see if you can limit dehydration deaths to a million people in the next year alone.  :)

water will never be free
the next industrial revolution will be water based whereby costs will increase

as for figuring out how to limit dehydration.. just look into saudi arabia which as no rivers of lakes. but can hydrate its population.
this (as reminding again) can be made more efficient by other means..
.. in short instead of reverse osmoses(your 48:52) there is also distillation which in combination with the lithium industry will expand water production as a byproduct of lithium mining(greenhousing the evaporate) but later take over as the main income earner for that industry

it wont require fusion or other energy generation in the way some foresee. just making the most of whats already available and utilising it

Half it's population, maybe.  They are sucking the groundwater dry for the rest.   But do facts matter? 

ok math
saudi 35m population
so desalination solved the problem for half population that are not sucking water from the underground.
or in other words
sucking water from the underground half as much, compared to how much it would do if desalination was not there
or in other words
sucking water from the underground now takes twice as long to completely empty the aquifer compared to not having desalination
or in other words, emphasising the first
17m pop dont need to rely on underground water

now all they need to do is expand that x2, first by concentrating on lithium mining as a industrial business investment. which reaps rewards with water supply as a secondary business, after all saudi arabia is not really at a humanitarian crises to need aid to get "free water". so they can successfully self manage via industrial investment

It is the responsibility of the government to provide down of the rural amenities for the people they are leading not the responsibility of an individual or a private body to do so if you must know so if you think people should not remind the government their duties then you are far from the truth, yes as an individual you can get a borehole to get access to clean water but what does the government do with the tax payers money if they can not rise up and give their people good water, electricity and create good roads what are they doing?  There are things we can do for ourselves I understand that we shouldn't expect the government to do everything for us but if you don't remind them don't you know that they will keep stealing money and not remember their responsibility.

Agbamoni you are from Nigeria so I believe you know a state called bayelsa in Nigeria and the reason you are saying that is not everything the government should provide for us is because you have not been to places like this, in bayelsa even if you dig a borehole the water won't be clean because of the oil spillage that is happening in bayelsa always there water is already contaminated and to get a clean and manageable water you can at least bath you will spend huge amount of money because you will have to dig very dipper and you will be using 3 to 4 tank, that is how it works in bayelsa, in the place I was in bayelsa it was government that built the borehole and we use 3 tank they pour sand in the first and second tank to help fitter the oil in that water, now when we are pumping the water it goes to the first one from the first one to the second one and from the second one to the third one being the last.
What am I trying to say without the help of government in bayelsa in providing clean water the people can't have a clean water because it's too expensive.

Unfortunately, African countries are still suffering from this poor leadership where portable water is still very much of a luxury to us. It is annoying when politicians still make promises with digging boleholes for people, promising our people with renovation of primary schools, promising people with grading of untarred roads and so on. It's really pathetic to know how rich the economy of some of these countries are but continously ridiculed by its leaders because of selfish interest and lack of empathy for the people.

The other day I was listening to a podcast program of a lawyer in Nigeria that was appointed by the late president to become the chairman of the special presidential investigation panel for the recovery of public properties In Nigeria. You need to listen to that conversation and you will be baffled by the kind of revelations revealed by him on how top government officials proudly and happily frustrate the efforts of such panels set to investigate them.

Graphene or reverse osmosis water filters for drinking water.

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