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You're an experienced gambler, having gambled for many years and having seen and done everything. Part of your experience is taking a loan and chasing losses. What if one of the young new gamblers who happens to be close to you is planning to take a loan?

Will you open up and give yourself as an example of someone who takes a loan, chases losses, and eventually loses everything, or prefer not to because you are ashamed to look back at your bad experience, and people think that you are a weak person?

If you ask me, I will be honest and give myself as an example so that people will believe that it's a bad idea to take a loan, it's not a sign of weakness if you admit your past mistakes.

How about you? How do you see yourself?

I have no problem opening up if you intend to save these people from what you've experienced, so it's not a sign of weakness. The best and strongest gamblers are those who learned from their past mistakes, mended their ways, and can give advice and offer assistance to new gamblers so they will not experience the worst in gambling like what you've experienced.
If you're honest with yourself, people will easily trust you and treat you as a real person.

I will do it if the person involved is someone important to me. There’s nothing to be ashamed if you already get over to that bad experience in the past if you will help others to avoid that same path.

I rarely talk about gambling with my close friends even if they are discussing it  when we are hanging out because they knew I’m not involved in gambling but I sometimes I can’t stop sharing info on the risk involved of gambling they are planning to do some some risky bet.

If you have a chance to make your experience useful then go for it.

I’m a gambler, I actually encourage people to take risks, lol.

Honestly, I don’t think gamblers are the type who give advice on what not to do. Especially when it comes to loans, some of us have probably taken loans just to gamble. And for me, it’s not really bad as long as you’re responsible enough to understand it’s a real responsibility. If you can pay it back, then it’s not really a problem.

Personally, I’m more of a shy type. That’s why I gamble alone most of the time, usually online, since I don’t want other people seeing me gamble. That’s also why I don’t really give advice to others, ’cause I’m not even that good myself and sometimes I still make the same mistakes.

I will not allow him follow my foot step. I will use my own experience as an example to him so that he can know the consequences that awaits him in the future if he doesn't listen to me. For anyone to tell you his plans, it means that he confide in you and is indirectly seeking for your own suggestion and advice on the matter.

A lot of people go astray because they don't have people to direct them when they are about following the wrong path. If I am opportune to direct someone on doing what I know is right, I would gladly do so.

Although I have never gambled with my loans so far, and I hope I never have to do so in the future.
Still, in answer to your question, I would say that different people may have different opinions here, but I certainly wouldn't prefer someone new to jump into a fire in front of me. And for this, I would definitely tell him that he should only gamble what he can afford to lose and should always stay away from taking loans, even if you don't gamble.  And if he gambles, I'll tell him to stay 100 yards away from borrowing. And I will show him my past as an example, and in addition to more difficult examples, such as many people who gambled with loans and later lost and committed suicide due to the instructions, I will also present these to him so that he does not gamble with loans.

What sort of question is that - it's like saying would you pull someone out of the way of a speeding car? Of course any decent person would do it. If you have the opportunity to share your bad  experience you should, but for many gamblers it is likely to fall on deaf ears. Gambling to excess with your own money is already bad enough, but when you start borrowing money from others (that is quickly going to disappear with nothing to show for it) you enter a whole new type of hell. At that point you've spent everything and are now robbing from your future self, making it even harder to recover. The sad truth is though that even sharing such stories may often not be enough, because many people will only learn when they feel the sting directly.

It's not my case, but if it had happened to me, as you suggest, I don't think I would have done it unless it was someone very close to me. First, because I'm quite secretive about my gambling, so most people don't even know that I've been playing poker every day for over a decade. And second, and more importantly, because people don't usually learn until they get hit with the hammer themselves. It's like a little kid who you tell, “Don't touch that, you'll burn yourself, don't touch that, you'll burn yourself!” There's nothing more effective in getting them to stop than for them to touch it and burn himself.

Taking out a loan is bad and not recommended for any gambler.

Even if I had the same experience with loans, I would be open to it as long as it was a close friend, but I would not advise him to take out any loans for gambling.

That bad experience should not be used as an example for others because it will cause big problems if someone takes out a loan for gambling, but I will see how the new person gambles. Obviously, the advice has been given, but the rest is up to him to decide.

I do not need to give myself as an example before I will explain to him how taking a loan to gamble is a very bad idea. But If I am not taking loan to gamble anymore and gamble responsibly, I will make myself as an example not to try it if it led to a financial problem for me. But I do not see a reason to use myself as an example when it is very obvious that taking loan for gambling is part of money mismanagement.

Aside from gambling, let say in real life. When you see someone heading towards a path in life that you know quite well that you have been through and wasn't worth it, you have to stop that person and give him a tangible reason why he shouldn't repeat same mistakes as you.

One thing is for sure, gambling is risky and anyone who choose to go into gambling should be ready to loss alot of money in the game. The money you want to loss, it's yours so you should by all means avoid taking a loan just so you can gamble. It's not something that has an ROI so you shouldn't make that mistake of thinking you would be able to make back the money in double and return the loaned amount...

If I were in such a situation, I would never feel ashamed to remind others not to repeat my mistakes, especially those who are new to gambling, because we already know how painful it is and we don't want others to experience the same thing.

This is especially true if that person is someone close to us, so that they don't follow in our footsteps. We know that in the end, for others, this may only be a suggestion, and we may also be viewed negatively when we admit that we are gamblers who have failed and cannot control ourselves, but that is still slightly better than allowing others to experience the same thing just because we don't dare to speak up, even though it could have a different impact on new gamblers so that they don't fall into such a vicious cycle. .

If he/she is close to me, I wouldn't want him/her to make the same mistake that I have and therefore I wouldn't be embarrassed of what I've done, as long as I've overcome it. At some point in life we have made a lot of mistake and there's nothing to be ashamed of it (as long as it's only gambling) exposing yourself is a mature way and acceptance to yourself.

My humble advise to any newbie wanting to take loan all to gamble...
To those that cares and want to avoid regretting with their decisions on gambling, you don't need to be a red-handed victim but acknowledging that what has happened to others can probably happen to you or even worst if you take same decision.

I will be very honest to anyone who is at the position for me to talk to about their wrong decisions and if it is what I have personally been experienced, I will say it to them and as well tell them the consequences which I went through which has been flaws to my personalities and as well a move that is potential to ruin my finances with the public awareness that I am a debtor because of gambling.

Letting them know your shameful and regrettable experiences after taken the loan and made you a debtor can make them have a change of mind and stay off from such ugly experiences.

But you nailed it with your first sentence: if he/she's close to me.

I consider myself the kind of guy that will sacrifice himself for the right cause, but it must be undoubtedly right, because you might do something with the best of intentions, which ends up shooting you back.

So yes, I would put myself in evidence if a relative or very close friend needed my guidance, to avoid a greater evil, but I wouldn't do it for just anyone.

Of course I will open up to the person because if I cannot advise him of the danger ahead then what is the need for the friendship, I will not only open up to the person I called my friend but anybody even the person I have not met before because for the fact that I was in such place were my opinion from that experience has a need to be voice out then sure there is nothing there, actually is not everything somebody needs to hold either because of how they would be looked unresponsible or shame because you could help someone who is about to make the same mistake and perhaps this could even helped the person from healing after all they had gone through because there is always a pleasant feeling of helping others.

I do not believe if people do not know the risk of gambling, I do not believe if people do not have the purpose of gambling, even though there are those who say that having fun is only language decoration, well from that we understand the purpose of ourselves gambling.

If those who understand the risk of gambling, of course they will not want to borrow money to be used in gambling, it is clear if they think gambling risk and borrowing is also risky, meaning they are the same as killing themselves.

Be ourselves and do not need to be ashamed we gamble with our own money and in small amounts, in that way we have no risk, for what we are ashamed to expose ourselves as it is, What is clear is that someone lives without problems with others is better, even though someone only does gambling activities every day.

if you take loans and you gamble.... no you are not someone to be used as guide for gambling. you haven't nothing to teach other than your mistakes and how to avoid these.
that's the only thing that could used as lesson. it's not so hard get in danger while gambling or just get in heavy debts.
loans for this reason must be always a NO. There is no reason for risking much more of what you can afford to lose.
If an event as already a certain outcome - likewise there is a real safe bet - this event couldn't be played in any case!

Anyone with a social conscience would do the same as you, because reminding others to think wisely is a duty toward others, especially your friends.

However, many people will ignore our reminders. We shouldn't be concerned with their skeptical responses to our concern, as our duty is to remind them to inform them. Beyond that, it's their right to react, whether to continue with their actions or not.

That Op, is literally the best thing to do in such a case, except you will be comfortable watching that new gambler make such a mistake and suffer for it.

even if i took a loan to chase losses and maybe eventually succeeded to recover my losses, and someone i know comes to seek for my advice, i could even tell you that i tried it and failed, and that the experience wasn't something anyone should experience, just to dissuade you from making such a mistke, considering the fact that it is a very risky action to take and not everyone can be as lucky as i was to actually recover their  losses.

Portraying yourself as a saint is wrong but you could use another means to tell your story. The age of the person you are counselling is also important. Your story can make them lose control because they will feel that if you can overcome a bad habit, they also can.

I have chased losses because of the mindset of getting rich through gambling. But never have I gone to the extent of taking a loan to finance my gambling activities.  

If about harboring a bad character like taking up a loan and chasing after losses in gambling, which are not favorable for me, was there to open to someone I know not to follow up the same angle I did, by gambling with loan money.

Some of the mistakes in life we made, I am sure many of us don't want someone we know to make the same mistake we made. We would like to caution and enlighten them on the need of not taking the wrong step we made out of ignorance.

On my own side, I wouldn't keep mute on someone thinking of gambling with loan money when I know that, is totally wrong and unacceptable

I am not even close to being someone who takes loans and chase losses, so I would not be ashamed of talking about my own experience as gambler, to be honest.
Also, even if I was a disaster of gambler and I had committed so many mistakes, I would still shallow my pride and use myself as an example of what can happen when luck is not on one's side.

Also, one needs to keep in mind that even if we decide to give warnings to new gamblers, it does not guarantee they will take our advice and be responsible with their money, they usually believe they are "smart enough" not to fall in the mistakes others have committed. It si something typical of human beings, actually, we do not learn of our own mistakes, until we suffer consequences by ourselves.

Since I've never experienced the situation of taking out a loan, I can't give a precise answer. However, given the numerous cases that have occurred due to this, I certainly don't recommend taking out a loan, especially if the person is a close friend or relative. Taking out a loan is not a solution; it's like moving yourself closer to ruin, especially for those without gambling experience. The bottom line is, gamble within your means.

Your bad experience is part of who you are, so there is no use hiding it, especially if that experience can be used to help change others.
If there's an opportunity, we should help people we know from falling into a bad situation, and we can use our experience to help them understand how seriously we are trying to convey our message.
It's okay to do that to people close to you, but it's different if the people you're trying to expose yourself are of a nasty character, who will despise you if you share your bad experience with them.

Honestly, I would tell young people not to take out a loan to gamble. I’ve done it myself and lost everything. It’s not easy to talk about, but I think it’s better to be honest than for someone to repeat my mistakes. Admitting you were wrong isn’t a sign of weakness, it’s a sign that you learned your lesson.

There is no problem with sharing one's own experiences with newcomers, especially if it relates to someone's fate as well. We have experienced it, and being able to break free from a bad situation is certainly a valuable experience. But we shouldn't let others go through it. They may not be strong enough and could even fall deeper into it.
Sharing advice from personal experience is not an issue for me. I live in an environment with many gamblers, so it's not difficult to do. Whether the advice is accepted or not is up to those who will go through it.

If this situation were to happen, then I would outright tell that person to stop and re-think/re-evaluate their choices before committing.

The problem with this kind of situation is that gambling is already risky by its nature. If you're going to take out a loan in order to gamble it away, then you are putting twice the risk on your end given. Ask yourself, what if the entire loaned amount fails in gambling?


I haven't done this but I know someone who took multiple loans in order to finance their gambling. The end result? Those loan companies were able to get hold of the contact numbers of her parents in which she was publicly humiliated on social media.

The sad part about this is that the loan company was also able to message almost all of her relatives which exposed her gambling habits. Not only did this cause damage to her reputation but it also affected her relationships as a whole.

Some of the questions raised in this post are rather personal information that are not supposed to be made public but for the sake of the discussion, we can give our opinion and hope others learn from them and do better as gamblers. First, taking a loan to gamble is not a healthy thing to do and we should try as much as we can not to be in that situation. Secondly, I might have done one or two things on the process of growing as a gambler and those are enough stories to share to any gambler to help them in decision making. In conclusion, I have countless examples of people and situations in which taking a loan to gamble lead to problems and I will stress these to anyone who wants to go that direction and hope they learn and change their mind.

It's all based how close I am to the person and the environment we might be in, I wont just use myself as an example without looking at these factors. There is nothing wrong in talking about your experiences, it makes the person understand that you have been In that situation before. What I would definitely do without hesitating is to talk about how dangerous taking a loan would be especially using it to gamble

The deed has already happened and there's nothing to be ashamed of anymore. If am not proud of what I did and I have seen that it's a wrong path that I took and I am not proud of the outcome of all my actions. I will gladly open up and share my experience with my younger one that is about making same mistakes that I did. People tend to learn faster and listen more when they are seeing someone who has got experience in what they are going through or in the path they want to go through. I will tell the person everything that has happened to me and how it has destroyed my life. Maybe if I had someone who talked to me as am doing to him, I wouldn't have made such mistakes in the first place.

Sure, why not? In fact, I do it often. I'm in an environment heavily influenced by gambling. I have at least 10 friends who actively gamble. So, I've learned not only from my own experience but also from the experiences of several friends who have fallen into trouble, one of which was due to loans. I, too, am a gambler who was previously in debt because I often used loans as an alternative to fund my gambling activities.

I also have some friends who have never gambled, but they know I'm a gambler. Sometimes, when we get together, they ask me to teach them how to gamble, how to deposit and withdraw money, and how to play. In those situations, I usually immediately forbid them, saying, "Your life would be much better without gambling." Furthermore, when they try to borrow money just to gamble, I often use myself or other friends as examples.

Being in debt is a truly terrifying situation. It brings immense pressure, and that's why some people end up stressed out by debt.

You got the best advise I have come across today, although your experience has said it all but come think of it, how will a gambler think of such, once a gambler starts having this kind or thought of taking loan then there is a problem because is very possible that such gambler is into mess and there are chances that such gambler is about to start looking for ways to recover his losses but how possible is that.
When someone start admitting what's wrong and right, that's to say that he's problem is half solved, what is now left is to put it into practice by not allowing repetition of what has happend earlier.

I will say.. just tell the child the truth, mate. chasing losses & taking out loans are fresh signs of problem gambling, i will never call it a sign of weakness. As a warning share your story & direct them to debt counselling, gambling helplines & self exclusion resources because these behaviours frequently result in significant debt & harm, there is no doubt. in my opinion only honesty helps them survive, not flexing. so be direct offer doable solutions somethin like block apps, set limits, call a helpline if needed & take responsibility for it.

Overcoming weakness makes us stronger so those previous mistakes shouldn’t gonna affect your current life if you become a better person after that.

I have no problem sharing my previous mistakes to others if that will be helpful for them on their current situation. I don’t ashamed on my previous gambling records unless those loan money is not yet paid until now.

But if everything is settled then why would someone be ashamed to that experience to teach others a lesson.

That phrase "I was there before" can really call on attentive attention to those who're about to take same step as you which by your stories in expression to your experience could be a heartfelt with the odds to scare them away from taking that intended decision of loaning to gamble.
By acknowledgement, experience is the best teacher so, if telling the people I cares for that I was once there as a debtor due to gambling and it didn't end well will help them reshape their intention to take a loan, I'll gladly do it. Atleast I've become someone different for good now and no more in that handicapped is okay to keep my presence responsible. So, I'd neither not have problem to use myself for an example at a necessity.

What will I gain if I try to mislead another person when I already know the truth? It will give me no benefit or joy to see another gambler go through thesame pain I went through due to the wrong choices I made.

Just like you @op, I will be honest to anyone who comes to me seeking for gambling advice. Even if I was lucky when I borrowed money to gamble, I will not fail to let the next person know that it was a very risky move I made; if they can't bear the risk involved, they should not consider it.

To be frank I've always hated anything pertaining loan taking and I'm pretty sure i wouldn't agree to anyone that tends to go that way, though I've not been found doing so and I'll gladly open up the person to have me as an example of a responsible gambler who has been void of loan taking to continue the gambling process. And if I once did that I'll open up nothing to be ashamed of it's all life lessons.

Some have taken related steps in the past by mistakes, which really cost them at the end, there's nothing bad if they can share from their experience to others, the whole act is a shame on him, because he has been involved in the act of shameful behavior by taking a loan, telling or advising a newbie could make him impact on such person, because he is serving a lesion to others who are willing to learn and take correction from his mistakes.

If you are trying to warn anyone then you have already learnt your lesson, what is there to be ashamed of? Unless your life is still in shambles because of gambling, and many people living close to you know your story with gambling.

This is why you need to hide your activities as a gambler, don't share with those close to you because they will start looking at you as irresponsible person, but trying to stop someone else from making similar mistake? It should worth the effort.

Funny thing is you can even try to stop that person and they still won't listen to you, because I have come to know that gamblers are the hardest to give advice, they normally won't listen until they make that mistake.

I might not expose myself as an example but I will suggest him not take a loan for gambling. I will tell him the risks of doing that and show him that gambling can make him lose all of his money. I don't have to show myself as an example because I don't think he can learn from other people's mistakes. So rather than using myself, I will tell about the danger of taking a loan for gambling and explain it in detail. But if he doesn't want to listen to me, even if I finally open my past experience, that will depend on him. I will just tell that all things will be his responsibility.

We all get older and by then we mature and realize that our mistakes do happen for a reason. While those mistakes are painful lessons, it still is a lesson. So, I will not be ashamed of my past especially if I have learned something from it. And a sign of maturing is being able to acknowledge that you have made these mistakes and you have grown since then.

I don't think there is anything bad in exposing ourself on what we have done and leant from it, though its a bitter experience on us, but also a shame and we have to take it as it is and let others realized what we are telling them is not being framed, but we are such example that got affected by the same challenge, which could draw for more conviction and motivated them to take it more serious, because they are dealing with life experience and such could be the perfect teacher to some, but i still respect your opinion on personal decision to whether to expose ourself or not, this is more of a personal convictions.

Of course I will, honesty is very important, especially to people you love. Some of these young gamblers will not take your advice if the story about the experience is not a personal one to you. There is nothing shameful sharing your experience, it just makes them understand that you have faced similar situation before and experienced same feeling that is motivating them to gamble so you can relate properly.

If you're trying to act all righteous to these new gamblers and then tell them a story looking like you've never been in a bad situation from gambling, they will have the feeling in their hearts that you are speaking about something that you have no knowledge about and based on your insincerity they will not take your advice, at the end of the day you would have wasted your time.

Everyone will probably give you a yes answer and I believe that’s the right thing to do, unless you’re just trying to wicked  such an individual even outside of gambling generally, if you have a bad experience about something then speak out when you see others trying to take same path  . To be honest, who the heck takes a loan to gamble? It’s just a reckless thing to do without considering the possible effects. I know some might actually be doing this, but let’s be real, it’s totally wrong.

Yes. I will not be shy about it. If it is something that could help another person, then I would not hesitate to offer my suggestion.

I am not that proud of being a gambler, and if I become a gambling addict, that will be a shame for me. Still, I want people to hear about my story and I want them to realize anything they can about my experience.
IMO, I would not be proud of anything, especially when it's about gambling. If my tragedy could help a person to become a better man, then I would not even doubt to help.

That will be the best and purest form of convince someone what you are saying is a reality. He will see more reasons to follow your advice.

At times, testimonials can be very misleading. Which is why, personal experience is there to share so that the gambler will know that taking a loan is not the right thing to do as a gambler.

Yes,  You are not weak, bhai. your honesty is absolutely badass.  Sharing your story genuinely helps a lot because it fosters empathy, lessens stigma & demonstrates to others that recovery is achievable.  Being genuine helps you connect with people who have been there before, gives them hope & prevents them from feeling isolated.   No limit, someone might actually be saved by your story.

regards,
duke

This I understand, and I respect the way you see it. Personally, Id rather be open as well. If someone close to me was thinking of taking a loan just to gamble, I’d share my own mistakes and what I went through on gambling even if it feels uncomfortable. I don’t see it as weakness as I see it as a way to prevent them from making the same costly choices. Sometimes, hearing a real story hits harder than just advice. But are we really suitable to give those words to them?

Some consider themselves to be quite professional because they can win in some games and gain an advantage.
and they feel less capital and more so they take out bank loans to double their profits.

It was a high-risk decision and could lose everything when you lost, and really couldn't be a gambling guide or an example to anyone with borrowed money that risked putting on an even greater burden.
Simply gamble with only the money you have so that there are no bigger losses and installment burdens anymore.

I wouldn't even expose myself with my gambling, it was enough to be an entertainment for myself and there was no point in anyone else knowing as long as I wasn't an addict.

Yeah, it's not a weakness nor a mistake to admit your past, in fact, it's a turning point when you consider your mistakes, learn from them, and hope not to repeat them in the future. Taking a loan and chasing your losses is not a good option, it will not help you recover your losses but create more burden. You will accept your first loss, and now you will be repaying that loan with interest if you lose. Most of the time, I see people lose that loan too because of emotional weakness, they chase the loss without any strategy, and their losses are doubled. You can take a rest, do some mental peace work, and think about where you made a mistake and how you can win if you enter again. This will create more routes for you, and your chances of winning will increase.

I am not gambling illegally so there’s no valid reason for me to get ashamed. Instead, I will set my own self as a concrete example because my intention to help those newbies is pure. With this, they will realize that taking a loan in gambling is never a helpful tool because it will only push someone to lose a lot more, and here I am going crazy thinking on how to pay that loan when all my funds have used up in gambling.

Chasing losses when gambling should also never be tolerated, because that only makes you an irresponsible gambler in the long run. Just like me, I do take a loan and chase all those losses, now I am already feeling the pressure on how to recover all of them and pay the high interest of my existing loan.

The best solution for us to take on this aspect is to be a good example, we don't have to run through the bad terrain before we could share our experience, because we are also expected to learn from others mistakes and try to avoid such for ourselves, then in doing this, we can be a good example which can serve a motivation for others because of responsible gambling and we also have results we can show from it over time in gambling, with these, we cant be shy or have a thought of hiding from our experience, instead we will boldly express ourselves to any newbie in gambling to learn form us being a good example.

There’s no other person that will understand you as a gambler but only another gambler as well. So I don’t see any wrong or getting ashamed of myself if I want save them going through negative experiences in the future. I don’t want them to lose because of wrong decision making, and for that I really think that they can actually learned from me if I stand up and make myself as an example.

In the end, your good deeds count more than your selfish actions. So it’s always better to show more genuineness,  not by being untrue to yourself and to the people around.

Since I have done  it before and see the implications then I will have to open up to him about my past experience so that he don't end up making that same mistake I made in the past. I don't Mind what he or she would say after telling him my past experience in gamble. I'm sure he will understand, he's not going to see it the other way round.

 Though some guys can decide not to tell thier friend about thier past experience in gamble until they end up making that same mistake they made that's when they will choose to tell them thier own story but that's very wrong, is good to inform them earlier since you have already experienced it and then allow them to decide.

AFAIK, we don't need to expose ourselves completely to give advice to someone. Taking a loan to gamble is wrong and that's pretty basic so you don't need to be one who had gone through it and learned the things in the hard way. And one more reason why you shouldn't tell the truth here is because they will not value your opinion anymore once they are aware of you did something that you should not. SO just do what you want without shaming yourselves is the smart move.

If I ever see somebody close to me wanting to take loans and gamble because he's thinking he can win to get money and repay for the loan and I have done this same thing in the future, because he's my friend and new to gamble means he doesn't know the risks involved into gamble, I will freely tell him the dangers in gamble because taking loans to gamble will not do him good either. But there are times when you need to let the person do what he wants, when he's not taking your advises that's when you stop talking.

It’s always good and better to learn from experience especially learning from the experiences and lessons of others  so you wouldn’t have to make same mistakes.
It’s important in every aspect of life to have someone you look up to either as a mentor or role model, this persons guide you and correct you when you’re wrong their experiences become your lessons and you become better for it.
I support Using yourself as an example if you’ve had a similar story to what’s been asked cause the power of your personal story is very motivational and encouraging than that of others who the individual doesn’t know. And for the person to come to you means there’s a level of trust.

Remember you said that if this new gambler is someone that is closed to me, right? Meaning that the person is not just some random person or a stranger and if that's the case, I will give the person a sincere advice by using my self as an example to describe how bad the situation can be but if the person is a random stranger, I would just advice him not to take such steps but I will not directly use myself as an example, instead I will just tell him that I know someone who made same mistake and it didn't end well for the person.

As long as the person is close to me there's no problem in using myself as an example...we have all learnt from peoples mistakes one way or that other so there's nothing wrong in stopping someone from making the same mistakes that you made in the past especially if it has to do with taking a loan to gamble, this is wrong on all levels and it's capable of causing more harm than good...I've been impacted negatively by it and I wouldn't want someone close to me to go down that lane

Exampling myself or not, I'd be frank to that guy that they shouldn't take any loan for them to gamble. It's out already of the choice to gamble with someone else's money, let alone a loan that he has to pay with an interest. That's why many are being indebted to anybody because it's either, they tolerate it or they have saved that person and told them on what they should do better and that's not to gamble with a loan money. And how much more if that person is so dear to me, I wouldn't tolerate that and I don't want him to be in debt because of gambling.

Or because I don't know the person and would like to keep something personal like that to myself(maybe if I know the person, I would have no problem using myself as an example). Besides, it's not hard to give an example like the one you mentioned without giving out that it is your own experience. it is also not a sign of weakness to not give out personal experience to people that you don't know or very familiar with.

You don't need to have the same experience to give someone sound advice - what you need is a solution to solve the problem. Gamblers often underestimate many things, including the financial risks they'll face in the future - including plans to take out loans to gamble. It's true that there's a drive to go to extremes and gamble beyond their means - this is because they believe in a chance of winning that isn't guaranteed. Stop the plan if you really want not get involved in trouble - but otherwise, just ignore it and move on.

I’m quite sure that a lot here are still taking loans to finance their gambling activities and even chase losses in the long run. So should I feel ashamed for that? Never, especially that I’m also taking responsibility of my own actions and still make responsible payments on time, so it’s never something to get ashamed of.

My intention is, let these beginners learn from me and weigh things if it’s good to take a loan or not. I won’t say it’s bad nor good, but I’ll just leave it to them how they’ll create judgement on what I’ve been practicing.

I am done of the era of being shy to expose myself. Right now, it's about sharing my experiences and that's why it's best to have it better known to others so that they will have an idea of what I've gone through.
So, telling them what I went through could be an inspiration and will give them an idea on how it will be it to them. Because if they won't have anyone to listen to and set an example of how it went, they might do the wrong thing.
And that's why it's best for me to just make myself as an example and expose the mistakes that I did. As I have said, I am done with being shy when there is a lesson that they can take from it.

I don’t see anything there to be ashamed of. Well, it all depends on how the gambler has been parading himself in the mix of others, which type of gambler he tells a story about being, that will determine if he will come clean and use himself as an example to save the next gambler from repeating the kind of mistake he made in the past. If not, I will boldly do that and make my point. How the person sees me after that is entirely the person's business. As long as I have made my point and I’m sure I’m no longer that type of person, then I have nothing to worry about.

I won't tell about my gambling activities and things I went through to random people.  I will only give myself as an example when someone is sincerely asking for advice.  It would be rude to turn them down when they are honest about their concern.

How I tell the story of my gambling activity is dependent on the inquiries of the person who is asking for advice.  Of course I will warn them about the negative consequences of borrowing money for gambling, but as long as they don't ask about my personal experience, I will not disclose my personal struggles (if there is any) what important is I already told them the possible result if they borrow money to gamble and lose.

Yes, but at least you have recovered already from gambling addiction or you are not that active in gambling. Because you can't be a good example if you are still chasing gambling loses and still be addicted. And that's what most of the former addicted gamblers do, they try to be a inspiration to the younger generation.

You can hear their horror stories and you can feel that they really regret what happen to them, as their lives ruined and so they don't want that to happen to the younger generations. And it's true, taking a loan is very bad just to gamble. I personally know someone that is very close to our family and now we really don't know what happen to her as we haven't seen her for a while after closing her business as she become a addict and taking loan and then she can't repay.

I actually don’t see anything wrong in opening up to them about what the dangers of borrowing loan to gamble are. If it will prevent them from making the same mistake as I did then I’d be more than willing to expose it to them.

People tend to listen more, when the example you’re giving is someone they know or have seen sing you should use yourself you’ll most likely be able to get them to change their mind especially if you’re really struggling with it or if there’s proof that you did struggle with the consequences of gambling with loans.

I am also living like this I am doing this stuff without talking or sharing with peoples around me because this online stuff make things possible but here I always need to be stayed on balance because this is important if I fail to do this surely It's going to hurt me badly.
I always talk with strangers and give them positive motivation because it's good for staying on right path I never want to be had position as ashamed because this has never been acceptable but still doing this gambling stuff without any big trouble not easy.
In last few years life completely change and improvement coming but still long way to go and never have any intention to go ahead about this with anyone as its never been ideal thing for anyone.

You know the effective way to help other people, show to them the real you without hiding something because you’re afraid to be criticized. These gamblers will understand you, so you don’t have to feel ashamed of yourself. But instead, let your experience be their guide so they won’t be repeating the same mistake again that will definitely lead only to an inevitable loss.

Old and experienced gamblers are the teachers of these beginners in gambling. Regardless of your past mistakes, you don’t have to get ashamed of that as that would serve as a wake up call for those who have plans to follow what you’ve been doing in the past.

Me too, I am willing to tell my story to them that it's never been a good idea to take up a loan for them to gamble. And not just my story but all of those that I know of. It's a free knowledge that it's not going to be a great help to them if they do that. So, if they will make up their minds and see that it's best for them to avoid it, they will realize that. It's no need for them to experience the bad result of it just for them to say that they will never take a loan ever again. But hearing out stories from the others on how it went will help them even it will include our own.

A certain pastor in the US whom I enjoy reading his book, would say; make your pain your platform. Don't hide it, come up to the stage and tell everyone about it, then watch yourself beat the fear entirely. Nothing is wrong with telling a friend that is about to jump into fire that you were once in the fire and it wasn't good, show them the scar as prove. Back to Op, it's the best thing to help stop the person from taking loan for gambling, it's not a healthy one, and would always hunt the young player later in life. If they don't listen at the initial stage, someday your words will resound as loud as a speaker in their subconscious mind, and you'd be the first person they'll run to for help.

Taking out a loan is rarely a good choice, except in cases of a genuine emergency. The same logic applies to gambling. It's crucial to exercise caution and only bet what you can afford to lose, without jeopardizing your financial stability.

I believe the best way to show that you know something is the willingness to open up to someone, and it shouldn't be a "shame" if you know it's part of the process. Admitting lapses should not be ashamed.

What's important is that you know you are doing it responsibly and are financially literate, so you can manage yourself and avoid making poor decisions when feeling emotional, as this could lead to further problems.

Your experience will definitely lead to education/awareness.

I would say that this is an experience that you pass on to others. If we do not share our experience, even if it is bitter, then here we can blame ourselves for the indifference that will one day return to us from other people. It is not for nothing that there is an expression: "fear the indifferent." I am not saying that we should always butt in with our advice, sometimes unsolicited, but a careful warning will clear your conscience. I respect freedom of choice, but when I see that some actions can bring losses to a person, I will persist in warning, especially if I have made these mistakes myself.

I would share my (negative) experiences with a new gambler and tell him about my failures to give him a full picture of what can happen in gambling (ups and downs). After that, let him decide for himself whether to borrow.

Unsuccessful experience is also experience. I don't see the point in hiding it in such a case to seem better. Failures happen to everyone and it is impossible to become successful without going through failures.

I agree with your opinion.

The ability to admit your past mistakes is a good quality. It is bad if you don't learn from past mistakes and repeat them over and over again.

Basically i never shy to be a gambler but i cannot revealed my habit to my family because being an the gambler has negative opinion in my environment and i never mind to tell my weaknesses and my mistakes in gambling to my friends especially to my close friend and actually if there is my friend who want to taking loan on gambling i will encourage them to thinking twice that because gambling with loan money has double risk compared to gamble using your own money and i will tell to them that i am a witness to see some people are dare to hypothecate their houses and cars because they want to gamble and chasing their loses but eventually those people have ruin their life and lost everything so, this way is really not recommended

What I will do when I have someone close and will take out a loan to gamble is to advise him not to do it, and we know that people like this are usually stubborn because they really want to fulfill their gambling desires no matter what, so if he still insists on doing it, I will not force him not to do it, besides, later he will experience something that might make him realize that his actions are wrong. By trying to remind him and giving an example of myself as the object is good, but the further decision is up to him, but at least I have tried to advise him.

I would say that everyone is their own happiness blacksmith, everyone has their own head. I would gladly share my experience of gambling and would never be ashamed of it. If I had experience something good - that is a good story to tell, but not to boast with it. If I had experienced something bad - that is a good story to tell either and be example for others. Let them learn from my experience and make own conclusion. If I had taken loans, I would also tell all the pros and cons of that to warn others.

What of in a situation where you took the loans to gamble with the hope of paying back and somehow along the line things didn't work out the way you were expecting and it got messy with your creditor. In a bid of trying to raise the money to repay back the loan, you sold stuffs and that single event cost you so much that it messed up your life. And somehow you became aware that your younger sibling is about taking a loan to gamble of course he also believes that he will pay back same way you did, are you saying you won't even bother talking to him against taking a loan to gamble or at least share your experience with the person because you are shy?

Do not keep your story to yourself, bro. you know first hand accounts have the power to change people's attitudes & behaviors, so sharing your mistakes with noobs may deter them from applying for a loan. A direct personal warning could prevent serious harm because most often I have seen borrowing to gamble increases the risk of excessive debt, bankruptcy & even suicide. in many country regulators are already limiting gambling credit, demonstrating that loans are a serious concern.

Everything about badness and goodness or all experiences in gambling is just something that is personal to me. All of these things do not need to be published and does not mean shame to remember or tell the ugliness but personal things are not worthy to be published. And for me things like that are indeed not important to others and will usually be ignored. If possible there are young people who want to find money loans to pursue losses in gambling, I just say thinking back before stepping and no need to tell something that is not important to them.

I have different perspective in terms of loan, if you will take a loan better this would be an investment, or an asset that will give you a money and afterwards will give to you a money that payup the loan without hassle because if you just take a loan for a something like liability and you dont have the capability to pay that onwards it will lead to a debt considering in gambling if you take a loan make sure you can pay the loan and not just taking a loan for the sake of yout entertainment only. So for me not idea to take loan just to satisfy your entertainment.

I will be honest like yourself and share my honest experience taking loans. I will emphasize that it was a stupid thing and did and I managed to get lucky. I will also share some other examples of other people who did the same loan for gambling and it didn't turn out the way they expected it to. However, before I share this story, if it were just once I did this, I will not share but if it were multiple times, then I'll share it.

Many gamblers end up making illogical decisions with extremely high risks simply to satisfy their gambling urges. Some make loan from friends with promises of timely repayment, others loan from banks under the guise of business development and others loan from various online lending apps. This approach to gambling is clearly highly self-defeating and potentially damaging to the future - not only financially, but also with legal and mental health issues.

Gambling with loan money is not recommended - it's considered irresponsible as a gambler. Gambling should be done wisely and gamblers should only gamble when they have a budget to spare - not by saving money to do so. Each gambler has their own way of managing and controlling their own money and we will always have two categories of gamblers in it.

I e advice him and use myself as an example of what he is going into, if the Idea of taking a loan is good or bad, because I wouldn't want him to experience what I have being experiencing since taking a loan to gamble is not a good idea rather work hard to earn more money for my gambling activities or I quit gambling for the period I don't have money to gamble and wait for the period I have then return back to gambling, no matter what the financial situation must be, it is not adviceable to take a loan to gamble .

Taking a loan to gamble only put you in a very high financial risk that you will not be able to come out of, because you will end up paying unending debts which most times affects the gamblers life since gambling wins are not guaranteed to upset your loans and that is why in gambling you are gamble with what you have and can afford to lose.

I think the people who persevere rebuild themselves from this hardship and make themselves a spotlight example jf they are stand up guy to help the younger kids and give them sound advice which would be something to the extent of convincing them not to take the loan from first hand experience and having them learn from their mistakes

Definitely owning up to our past mistakes and referencing it to the younger generations is not a sign of weakness at all, people make mistakes and sometimes, the mistakes we make is for us to learn so that we won't allow young ones coming up around us make the same mistake.

So for the reason of teaching the younger generations, I will always use my experiences as an example when trying to pass any knowledge to anyone, whether the person is younger or older than my very self, because people grow but no one grows above making mistakes, the young sometimes can teach the elderly while the elderly will also have something to teach the young as well..
It is commonly said that experience is the best teacher, I actually consider it a privilege to have gone through an experience which we learn from, and today be able to teach the younger generation through that experience, its a privilege for sure because those kids will forever remember the good impact you made in their life if what you taught them through your experience helped them not to make a major mistake that would have cost them alot.

And it just shows that gamblers are that kind of people who don't want others to fall for the gambling addiction. We are willing to share our stories and experiences, even at times that we might be ashamed, but that is the truth, as some point in our lives, we are in the lowest because of gambling.

If I'm not mistaken, those who are in the gambling hotline, those who answered and advises are people who have went into this experience and recover. This time, they want to extend their help that's why they volunteer to have in the hotline and listen as they can relate and give sound counselling.

I don't have to use myself as the example before I make a point or give a good advice to someone, when a piece of advice is given to someone that is doing a wrong thing, the person that is being giving the advice is likely to take it or ignore it no matter any example you give to the him or her. People can choose to be ignorant and do what ever they please even if the thing they are doing us going to hurt them.

I think that point here is not that you are going to influence the gambler to quit or stop. The point is that you are offering any help you can give to others as you don't want them to experience what you have went during your addiction years. Of course, you can't please everyone as they have every right to refuse your offer or they remain ignorant because they love what they are going.

But at least you give your best shot to those gamblers, and who knows, even at 1 every 100, maybe someone will listen to you and at least you influence them to change their lives for the better and stopping them of ruining their lives because of gambling.

For me, using myself as an example is better if I would tell a bad experience in gambling. It would even be more easy to move-on if I share my own story how I get past to that struggle.

People are more likely to take serious of your advice if you use your own personal experience. Only close-minded people will say it's a sign of weakness telling them about your past mistake.

This is a very difficult question, because at first I wanted to answer "yes, I would tell this guy everything about my bad experience and try to convince him that he shouldn't do this."
But then I realized that all people are stubborn and no one respects someone else's experience, even if it is given with absolutely sincere intentions. And therefore, given that this guy is a gambler, and most likely he considers himself the smartest, he will think that "some fool is giving him advice." And he himself, of course, knows better how it should be.

There's no problem with opening up to people but make sure they are the right ones because there are certain things that are not meant to be public, these people you. Open up to might start running their mouth and telling others about what you shared...There's nothing wrong In using yourself as an example but you must be very sure of the people that you tell...sometimes opening up isn't necessary when you notice the person isnt mature enough

All my gambling years I have not had such experience or been in such position but for all the experiences I have had, if it happens I see a young gambler about making sane or similar mistake as I did, I will not hesitate to correct and stop them and if it means me opening up by using myself as an example, I would not mi d just to make sure I do not see another person suffering same fate under my nose because I will feel like I have been unfair to such a fellow who is younger and considered having very limited knowledge and experience.

I have never taken a loan to gamble but chasing losses is something I have done, and I am really benevolent soul, I am always glad to share my experiences with others so they do not repeat same mistakes as me, so I'll advise to not chase losses and not to take loan to gamble alongside as well — because it's just something I have learned without having to go through experience.

A kind person never goes wrong, but it's not always worth it bothering over anybody who doesn't appreciate kindness. Advise is like a pinch of salt, you only give when someone asks of it. In gambling, gamers tend to be their brother's keeper, but addiction disrupts this privilege. That is why, as you said, giving out the talk at first is worth it, then the ball will be on the player's court, whether to adopt the information or not.

There is nothing to be ashamed of regarding one's ugly experience in gambling. If it is an experience that you know you would not want to go through, it is better for you to open up to the person. You don't need to share your whole story, but you can give the person some advice on how terrible the journey is, rather than just keeping quiet.

In your own experience, it is possible that the reason why gambling was terrible is because you didn't have anyone to educate you; there were no opportunities. However, this person who needs your advice is fortunate to have you for a better experience in gambling.

Personally for me, telling some one about how I messed up in gambling relives me the stress, so why will I be ashamed of saying it, although individual gamblera with their different level of understanding, although I understand that is not everyone we need to share what we went through in some aspects of our lives with but being open helps to salvage some situations, relating to what you've said, i want you to understand that there are people that you may find unworthy to advise them with the experience you had in gambling, not because you're ashamed to tell them but because it might end up being a waste of time, if the person who needs ones advice, sincerely needs it and will put it into practice after the advise is been given to him, it is fine.

Getting a loan ultimately has one big drawback - it needs to be repaid. And as a rule, it must be returned with interest. All this will negatively affect your decision-making and your strategy. Before you take out a loan, you need to answer the question: what will you do if you lose the borrowed money?

I think that telling people about your failures in order to warn them not to make the same mistake is a very gracious gesture, which requires quite a large amount of confidence and bravery. Personally, I do not go around telling people about my misadventures but I do warn them nontheless.

You do not necessarily have to use yourself as an example, I think as long as your intentions and words are sincere, they will be heard.

Although that does not mean they will listen to your warnings.

I remembered a conversation I had with someone that gambles and needed funds to keep up but was looking at taking a loan, and I was like what do you need it for when it's not adding any benefits to you knowing fully well that your chances of winning that game or bets is slim and that's how I saved him from taking that draining steps and decisions, so it mustn't be one close to you or you mustn't take yourself as example but nailing the point will pass alot of message to the other party.