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Electronic Gulden [EFL] vs Guldencoin [NLG] - which Dutch coin do you support?


There's a battle going on between 2 Dutch airdropcoins: Electronic Gulden [EFL] vs Guldencoin [NLG]

Which of the two do you support?



Electronic Gulden [EFL]

http://picadump.com/pictures/bitcoin/efl.png


Official website: https://e-gulden.com
Electronic Gulden [EFL] on Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522661.0
EFL in the media: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=557077.0
Main exchange: https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_efl



Guldencoin [NLG]

http://picadump.com/pictures/bitcoin/nlg.png


Official website: https://guldencoin.com
Guldencoin [NLG] on Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554412.0
NLG in the media: -
Main exchange: https://www.bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-EFL

I don't think NLG will get anywhere. Since the EFL was already on the news, the Dutch newspapers won't make an article of just another Dutch cryptocoin like NLG.

i put my money on efl.

My vote goes to Efl, there's been a discussion about the ammount of coins they bogetting supposed to generate in the blockchain.

Eventhough Efl has a smaller total of coins half of it goes to the Dutch population.
On the other hand we have NLG which has 10% of total to distribute and a bigger total ammount of coins, based on this, i'd like to make a prediction, for starters these specifications will inflate the value of the coin insanely, second, only 10% is reserved for dutch people which makes it likely that the other 90% will be mined by mainly foreigners. Which in the doesn't really make it a coin for the Dutch does it? which do I think is more of a Dutch coin, Efl, who do I think has any chance of getting a real value without hyperinflation, Efl.

The reason were in a crisis is the world prints to much money with a unjustified value. So I don't really get why they think more is better.

EFL definatly for a very simple reason...

They we're first...

I know that there has been a discussion about who registered a domain name first...this doesn't really matter though. They have done a great job reaching out to the media and seem to know exactly what they are doing. Sure....they have had some people question their distribution methods (asking for a id card and utility bill in the beginning). Even so...they have always responded to their community quickly and came up with quick and good solutions. As long as they don't make any mistakes with distribution, this coin will win in the long run. I have not seen Guldencoin answer any questions about their distribution system while there has been a lot of people claiming and showing us that it is very easy to cheat using different iban numbers and e-mail adresses, receive alot of guldencoin. I guess it is better to receive to much information rather then having a system where people keep on filling out requests forms and receiving to much coins.

Also i don't like how Guldencoin used EFL's flaws in the beginning saying things like "our distribution system does NOT require you to fill in any personal information", and "our distribution system DOES work".

Why didn't they just reach out to EFL and offer them help instead of creating a 2nd coin? This will just cause a lot of confusion for dutch new cryptocurrency users.  ???

I would dump out your NLG while you still have a chance. The first country coin normally wins. Have you seen what happened to the Polish coins?

I think NLG will vanish by the end of the week and EFL will be at around $100 by the end of the year. Dump your NLGs and buy up ELF if your dutch.

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EFL definatly for a very simple reason...

They we're first...

I know that there has been a discussion about who registered a domain name first...this doesn't really matter though. They have done a great job reaching out to the media and seem to know exactly what they are doing. Sure....they have had some people question their distribution methods (asking for a id card and utility bill in the beginning). Even so...they have always responded to their community quickly and came up with quick and good solutions. As long as they don't make any mistakes with distribution, this coin will win in the long run. I have not seen Guldencoin answer any questions about their distribution system while there has been a lot of people claiming and showing us that it is very easy to cheat using different iban numbers and e-mail adresses, receive alot of guldencoin. I guess it is better to receive to much information rather then having a system where people keep on filling out requests forms and receiving to much coins.

Also i don't like how Guldencoin used EFL's flaws in the beginning saying things like "our distribution system does NOT require you to fill in any personal information", and "our distribution system DOES work".

Why didn't they just reach out to EFL and offer them help instead of creating a 2nd coin? This will just cause a lot of confusion for dutch new cryptocurrency users.  ???
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Very true Another thing i don't like is their way of marketing instead of trying to make a name for themselves by promoting their own coin they rather tell us how bad Efl is and how theirs is better, on top of that they have some really obnoxious communitymembers which is not their fault I guess but still. Efl!!

-1 that's not fair

Cryptos are just for trading not for use, so the currency with the least coins will have more value for PnD's

As a shop owner I would go for NLG and a trader EFL by a long margin to make more btc profit.

Very true Another thing i don't like is their way of marketing instead of trying to make a name for themselves by promoting their own coin they rather tell us how bad Efl is and how theirs is better, on top of that they have some really obnoxious communitymembers which is not their fault I guess but still. Efl!!
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Please understand that I can not speak about actions that happened before I joined.
I do not see the text you quoted somewhere, simply a statement about what we /do/ need.
Please also understand that we all have a lot to do, so answering questions sometimes backlogs. I do believe I posted a little bit about the system we use to check claims for free NLG.

We all agree that it would be best to stress our strengths and weaknesses and let the users figure out what coins they want to support. I do not see why both could not co-exist.

If this would be a contest, the best coin will win. I'm standing here for Guldencoin, and will be standing here for a while.
Inbox me if you need anything. Or reply in the Guldencoin topic and I'll see the update :)

Prefer EFL. Seems legit.

EFL

Yeah the votes give a clear indication to which coin is going to succeed. I might of voted for NLG if I was a bag holder.

EFL forever!!!!!!!!

NLG will become a distant memory by the end of the week.

Going to Dinner...

To me. EFL wins.

Why? Because guldencoin are just being plain dicks. They don't seem to understand the core reason for cryptocurrencys to exist. Its opensource, decentralised and should not be a competitive match.

If they truly love crypto's and national coin they would have contacted the EFL devs and asked to help out. THATS why its opensource in the first place.

Besides that they have this page on their website with "Founder" titles and shit, saying they are a company.. Again, cryptos are decentralised and there should not be a company and some lame douchebag suited titles behind it.

Reality check

Guldecoin never happens and the devs probably only make a little profit on their premine at the cost of sacrificing cryptocurrency adoption to the Dutch people because they don't understand wtf will be going on with all these guldens around. GoodLuck Losing all your dignity by constantly harassing the EFL devs (who started this first) and asking daytraders to buy into your little scheme. no honor.

If i was given a chance to buy Guldencoin or kill myself, I would have my sword already handy.

+1

-1

I don't care who wins. I win as any of them gets proper value. Why? Bcs i own both.

NLG has the better chance to explode and make huge gains https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-NLG

 I believe efl had its max gains already

NLG has no chance. EFL going to rebound to 40000 in the next week. With more media attention, articles. EFL is for pure dutch people and is much better for Netherlands. You have the whole bitcoin marketcap just for 1 country. 20 million is more then enough coins for the entire population excluding the immigrants.

guldencoin had a better launch

Like I said in the EFL ANN thread, NLG will be 25 by the end of the week, don't get caught in the trap on bittrex, supply will out do buyers and the coin price will plummet. Anything over 80 is a bargain
for sellers.

EFL price will climb end of the week as people come to there senses that NLG is not going to do anything with the coin and riding off EFLs backs.

NLG price still above 100. lol someone must be trying to pump the price to try offload.

I woud like to see them both make it. Make a market EFL/NLG and we can save EFL while use NLG for spending. I like both coins because each has his own specifications. The supply of NLG makes it more of a currency while EFL is more like a commodity.

The reason EFL will win is because it's better for PnDs, alt coins are just to see how much btc you can make from them.

Who is the developer of EFL?

NLG logo:
http://bin.snmmd.nl/m/m1cyj7cwwtp2.jpg

Where are the Dutch news articles on Guldencoin? EFL has 29 already.

I would like to reply to this with url: http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/04/06/fish-climb/

NLG is not EFL and EFL is not NLG.

I do not see why there needs to be a competition in this way. Time will tell more then what anyone can scream. In a way it's nice to see the EFL supporters post so many good things about EFL. It means more to me that the people supporting NLG don't feel the need to post these things.

Let's try not to throw dirt on each other. In five years we will see what Bitcoin made it into the cash register and which one didn't.

Not throw dirt,,  NLG no media items,,  EFL 29 media items,,  its facts,,

I would of invested in efl but if you look at the efl chart on bitterex there was a huge volume spike which looks fishy

And NLG looks more professional and has yet to make break out gains https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-NLG

EFL falling from highs

NLG slowly rising

I was reading the guldencoin.nl forum, and bramvnl actually stated there he's keeping the price artificially high by trading with himself.


Which is kinda weird, based on the whole idea of cryptocurrency's, we don't want intervention from banks and governments that "sell" you money that is overvalued and yet he's(and maybe more since he's asking more people to do it) doing the exact same thing. Letting people pay for artificially high overvalued money.

The worst part is he's actually stating he's making profit on doing this.
You sir are on the fine line of what would be in the real world called stockmanipulation and/or fraud.

Nlg distribution system is easy to manipulate. I cba anymore but already claimed more then 5k nlg using a iban converter and different e mail addresses. Who sais other people arnt doing the same?

I've got 0.8481041 EFL sat doing nothing, too small to exchange.  Anyone want a donation?

LR85Am2DjRu8DxDMFRzCG6PGzzYoE7Zhvg ;D

On it's way, except Bittrex took 0.1 as a fee :(

Thanks  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

got it!

EFL dead?


https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/guldencoin.com/nlgcup/nlgcup.jpg (https://vimeo.com/95529647)

In case you guys don't know NLG was also the first currency to get Subways to accept the coin and also De Prins restaurant in Amsterdam. (for that click on the cup)


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554412.0
https://Guldencoin.com
https://Guldencoin.com/NL
http://nlgcup.com (this is the link to the bets on FIFA World Cup matches)

I would of invested in efl but if you look at the efl chart on bitterex there was a huge volume spike which looks fishy

And NLG looks more professional and has yet to make break out gains https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-NLG

EFL falling from highs

NLG slowly rising

I guess people know the answer now. EFL devs were scammers and NLG team are the true champs for Crypto. My brother said EFL is just full of bagholders trying to revive a dying coin so they can get money back. I hope Dutch people don't fall for this.

Some guy called EFLmaniak holds 20% of the EFL mined coins :(, if I was him i would be hunting those devs down.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522661.msg6630135#msg6630135

Please, anyone?

EFL or NLG?

Now in 2017, which is worth investing on?

Since both coins are clearly capitalist and we're talking about profitability here and which one will "win" in terms of price - oh wait, we're supposed to answer which coin do we support?

Anyway, I see no harm in Guldencoin's tactics in marketing. Saying you're better than your direct competitor works in the sense of profiteering we're all keen to debate. I'd love for more services to be like that as a consumer.

But from the point of advocating, of course, I'd also support EFL.