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I put together an image which demonstrates my understanding of the basic reason for all the problems in this world.

I shared it here because I've noticed that bitcoiners tend to be more aware of the true issues going on and are not fooled by media public relations which state otherwise.

I believe Bitcoin solves a significant portion (if not all) of the issues presented in my diagram.

Anyway, here it is. Your comments are welcome. If you don't agree, that is ok. This is just how I see it:

http://shotcallin.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/78628307/The_Reason_For_All_Problems_on_Earth.gif

http://shotcallin.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/78628307/The_Reason_For_All_Problems_on_Earth.gif (http://)


Here's one video that seems to be supportive (talking about Rothschilds): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxmJUBDgpyQ

The Biggest Scam In The History Of Mankind - Mike Maloney - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0

Also, watch the documentary, Thrive ( http://www.thrivemovement.com/ )

Love conspiracy theorists, always brighten up the day with their mad cap delusions of everything being connected to everything by design.  On the other hand, those ideas pollute more modest ideas that might lead to change, so that people don't want to associate.   Why not just accept that shit just happens?

Totally agree, +100000, not everything is a darn conspiracy.

To all conspiracy theorists out there, imagine the world without a government, without rules, without companies, all those things that you put as part of one big conspiracy...imagine what the world would be like without them, it'd be a desolate cannibalistic place.

I understand and that's ok. I didn't expect or require agreement. It's just my viewpoint as I said and I felt like sharing it. :)

Thanks for your replies

My theory is that conspiracy theorists don't have jobs or girlfriends/ wives

 Seriously conspiracy theorist are always wrong and they never admit it. Instead they focus on the next conspiracy which your absolutely correct that it must be linked with all others. Guess that's why they're never right.

answer : house of cards. ;D

Mostly good, but I think the alien races stuff is a bunch of BS

I think bitcoin is the beginning of the end of money. Please investigate a resource based economy.

I agree colinistheman. Thanks for putting your thoughts out there.

You did it now! You're officially on the list.

Good thing anyone can come out of nowhere and become the leader.

BTW, we are enslaved to the BTC devs. Devs are basically the masters of any changes, and  1 or 2 of the mining "guilds" just need to accept changes and badda bing change is pushed through. I fail to see how that is better. We just haven't had this happen yet is all. With money comes greed, with greed come corruption.

Eliminate the bankers. 99% of the world's problems will be solved with that.

That part was somewhat a guess (so I put the question mark behind it because I didn't have any proof to support it other than the videos from Phil Schneider and Phil Schneider mentions the alien which is working in the white house named Val Valient Thor. But this was not conclusive evidence enough from just 1 source.

If anyone is unaware of this information, google Phil Schneider and "Val Valient Thor"

Thanks it is much appreciated. No harm in sharing my thoughts anyway (People can always ignore me if they want)

totally agreed. Luckily bitcoin forcefully and peacefully takes control back without asking anyone for permission

Here's one video that seems to be supportive of the chart I drew:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxmJUBDgpyQ

It's specifically in regards to the Rothschilds mentioned at the top of my diagram.

Isn't that a bit of an overexaggeration? I mean greedy shits who prey on people are rather frustrating but I do think we are not living in a world yet where they are the biggest priority. There are far more fundamental flaws in humanity than just being a 'banker'.

It comes down to one thing only. Control of energy production! Much cheaper and efficient ways have been invented but buried(literally, with the inventor) before the masses were aware of them. We still burn fossil fuel FFS! You know that "they" don't want a problem-free world, but sheeple will always blame each other when the real criminals are hiding in plain sight. If you know who "they" are, you know it's not the governments of the world.

The main flaw in conspiracy theories is the very idea that something so big and complex as a global conspiracy could actually work without the people involved screwing up everything due to lazyness, mismanagement, greed, traison or just plain stupidity. When you follow a conspiracy theory, you're just assuming it's possible to have a group of people work together without ever having anyone doing anything wrong (*).

Good luck with that.



(*) Or with the ability to always recover from any mistake, however big; which is just as unlikely.

^ good point. I forgot about this very important aspect of free energy. If what Thrive says is true, this would change the planet too. But I think we run into the same problem with the "elites" at the top suppressing free energy information too, because they own large oil corporations and have vested interest in people needing oil, gas, etc.

I understand your doubt at this being possible, but this is how it's possible:

When you own/control the majority of the planet's gold supply and have most nations in debt to you, and these same nations are actually physically incapable of paying off these debts (see here why it's impossible for countries to pay off their debts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0 ) then this is the actual recipe to effectively have control over every government.

You don't have to go that extreme, to the point of totally free energy. I actually don't believe in such a thing unless it's just a naming convention. "Free" as in gravity for example. :) Not literally free but as free as it gets; you know.

What is possible is running your car with regular tap water after processing it the night before you fill your tank with very little upfront investment(compared to what you pay for gas) in equipment. When and if this becomes public knowledge and masses begin using the technology, govs will be taxing the general consumer for energy generation licenses. I'm not saying they shouldn't but it will most likely be a ridiculous amount; so much that no residential user will be willing/able to pay. So, we'll be forced to run on gas but this time knowing that it isn't the only way. Just like Bitcoin, things will begin to change.

BTW, electric and hybrid cars are totally useless tech, designed to silence environment activists and keep people busy. The inefficiency of power cells, in every aspect; from production cost to life cycle to weight is incredibly stupid.

The US Navy already found out how to power the boats and other sea vechilcles with salt water, so you know if they can do that, they re protecting the gas companies to keep producing fuel that pollutes the air.

Makes sense.

Too bad free energy (or nearly free energy) doesn't have the same unstoppable nature that Bitcoin has by programmable design. That is what puts Bitcoin out ahead of the pack as far as things that will break oppressive control.

The technology of decentralization is the most ingenious gift mankind has given itself since fire. Now it just needs to be implemented in as many fields as possible. Tor and Bit-torrent were the first. Money and Bitcoin are the second, and perhaps the most impacting of all.

Bitcoin will not ever remove greed and jealousy from the hearts of men.

But Bitcoin will forcibly and passively take the power from the individuals who are exhibiting the worst case scenarios of greed and jealousy (on massive scales), and return it to the more decent person.

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This has been proven to be 100% true. LOL, the freetime has also been showing to explain their irrational thinking.

There is enough for everybody's need but not enough for anybody's greed.

Or that we/they are thinking faster or more efficiently than you and don't need 8-10 hour extra per day to be able to think about stuff other than sex and money. Try to be a bit more than a regular work-horse please. It's good stuff. :)

Its 50/50 for both, but studies show lack of social life and involvement in any sort of activity may cause paranoia, loss of sleep, irritability, and overall crazyness.

it can reduce poor people by giving money to schizophrenics

Bitcoin is not the solution for human problems. But bitcoin shows what they are. People think that because bitcoin is not regulated, then they can do with the price whatever they please to gain profits for themselves. But the problem is that by doing this, they are proving that they didn't grow up for bitcoin yet. I'ts like closed circle. People was stupid and acted like they pleased from the begining of humanity so to protect against them others created countries, governments and laws. Now some bitcoin people are against laws and governments or regulated money but they show that they are needed even in bitcoin world because thanks to unnecesary volatility merchants can't simply adopt bitcoin as paynment without 3rd party companies who takes risk by themselves. And most of them don't want to even do that.
We have long way ahead and I doub't I will live long enough to see mature people who don't need any regulations or laws because they are not selfish and know what works best for all and not only for them.
I think bitcoin came too soon.

Correct. Some people can't handle it and burn a few wires in the process. Anyway, no arguments there. lol

All I'm saying is that everybody should at least try to go a little bit out of their boxes predetermined by the society which is in fact an ever-changing entity with the people it calls crazy in the front lines most of the time. History is full of "crazy" people who were right after all. Today, we call their opposition stupid short-sighted morons. :)

You're wrong bud, OP is predominantly right, it's not theory it's praxis and there are countless documentaries about it, you just have chosen to say blind.... btw I wasn't aware of Dropbox policy... anymore info on that?

...and the problem is not in having governments. problem is how they do their job, and so far history told us they primarily work for the interests of few/elite, while ordinary people are living much worse than they should given the technology advancement and hyperproduction we have today. we're enslaved by money that is printed in uncontolled fashion, and the inflation is killing our standard. and there's energy that is not free but it should be, because it can.

Exactly. Where did this idea of conspiracy=anti-gov come from? It's not true. Just because some of them think so doesn't mean every thinker thinks the same way.

Nice sharing

some people here are making that equal... that's what i see, but it's utterly wrong.

Ah, free energy, this is a good one.  The problem with free energy discoveries (that aren't just completely bogus) is they don't scale ( i say this one who has implemented Tesla designed devices).  The proponents wont accept that so pretend the technology is suppressed.  Nevermind that the non-western world hasn't used the technologies.  What shouldn't China or India do to ditch carbon based energy?  

The conspiracy also ignores the significant economic point that there are more vested interests that would benefit from cheaper/free energy than there are interests involved in energy.  In fact considering oil, there's more economic value to non-energy use than burning it up.  Consider electricity (mostly non-oil generated), the cost of coal is dirt cheap, its the transportation, the building a precision machine, the distribution network etc that cost money, money that needs investment upfront for pay back over generations.  

The problem is that there are decent alternative energy tech, but people investigating or wanting investment sound too much like the nutters shouting about breaking away from "Big Oil" etc, so people shy away.  

But of course the conspiracist will tell you that's part of the suppression...   ::)

I understand your point. As you suggest, perhaps there will be a power shift from the current dictators to the new bitcoin elite. But either way, the difference is that the new bitcoin elite can't print money, and don't control the money supply. So it's actually better in my opinion.

Thank you

True, Bitcoin won't solve human problems. I agree. Like I mentioned, Bitcoin won't remove the greed and evil from the hearts of men.

But Bitcoin at least offers a mathetmatical-based, non-biased arbiter of monetary and economic handling. Human problems relating to economic control and power which has been derived from economic manipulation will now be ineffective to the new mathematic arbiters (digital currency) which invariably ensure economy is fairly handled and unmanipulatable.

Thank you. I agree with you 100%. No one can force a person to look and find out truth for themselves. Everyone must look for themselves to find it. Amazingly it is out there when you choose to find it.

My wife found that information about Dropbox actually. I'm not sure what links she was reading, but I found these just now:

http://www.drop-dropbox.com/
http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/10/condi-rice-joins-dropbox-board-of-direct

Precisely. And while those in power do not want there to be free power, and while those in power maintain their power by their control of the world's and nation's money supplies, then we will never see the light of free energy because it is in their vested interest to stop it.

I see Bitcoin as a fundamental step in effecting a change for the better, perhaps on a long-term, but nevertheless a change where no effective change has existed yet in overthrowing tyrannical control of such a high nature.

There's nothing wrong with governments. You need somebody to run things to some degree. That's how organization works. But printing money and making decisions without my and your vote (or the majority vote) is not a government that works.

Bitcoin will check governments' (abuse of) power. Not necessarily get rid of them entirely.

it is :)

try telling that to some of the "anarchists" around here lol

 

Maybe not exactly free in the means of producing it, but it certanly can be free for ordinary people. There's actually abundance of energy, goods and food on earth. How do you explain tons and tons of food ditched, mountains of cars and technical goods destroyed in hyper-production world, yet there are still hungry people lacking basic goods. There's no polarity in the world actually, and every country including USA and China are ruled from the same "invisible" center using financial and energy matrix, I explained that already. Yeah maybe I sound like utopist but I deeply believe it's possible. Elite won't expell fossil fuels because they require work, and work is needed to keep the cattle shut up and believe they live in a land of freedom, democracy and opportunities.


That's what powerful media made you think about it all. I say again, there's abundance of everything and right now it's technically possible.

Thanks, I'm leaving Dropbox ASAP.

No, that's what education and real research and understanding has taught me.  There's no common media outlets telling me about the supply chain for energy delivery, i've researched it for myself.  I've looked into production and distribution of free energy, doesn't work for free even if you source the energy from the ether.   

You mention "hyper-production" and that is indeed a substantial problem, over-consumption is rife in the western world, but that is a separate subject.  There is probably a global collusion (or conspiracy if you'd prefer) on that matter, but its hardly covert and hidden, its well in the open with every major company constantly in our face telling us to buy their stuff and replace what we brought last year.  It would be far more useful and better received if people concerned with this made a direct case against excessive consumerism, than trying to tie it into all sort of other nonsense about bankers/Monsanto/NSA/IRS/climate manipulation all being part of the same dastardly scheme from the NWO/Lizard people.  The wider the net is cast the more it sounds ridiculous and more every day people will ignore the subject.  focus is required on important subjects.

shit, they've controlled all aspect in this world
how about world bank and IMF? this two fucking moronic institutions always make crisis in third world country with their "financial help"
it's all back to rothschild i think, and his international banking cartel
nice sharing, i leave dropbox now
i hate condy rice >:(

I'm not saying it's completely coordinated effort from the top of the pyramid. It's like conglomerate of common interests to keep this order (we're already in New World Order more or less), and you said it yourself who are they. Things are on such a large scale that is hardly believable. I personally refused to believe in chemtrails story until recently because I saw some really persuading documentaries. Conspiracy so big, on so high level, yet not too coordinated makes people confused about it all, bottom line is: there is strong interest of elite to keep things as they are, and they are actively doing it. Partly, we common people are guilty too because many are living ignorant lives, refusing to see the truth, it's that blind consumerism you're talking about.

You'll tell I'm crazy, but I even do believe in Lizards (which are actually human-alien hybrids), and even time-travel and parallel dimensions.

Take a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Vij4LsVO4  ... That's one hell of an insane interview by member of Rotschild family, but it somehow made me believe she speaks truth.

http://sprott.physics.wisc.edu/chaos-complexity/dialogue.pdf

read this paper as an computer/internet protocol and then u will begin to see what nash's bitcoin has done with einsteins chosen prodigies' thesis (bohm).  can someone who understands contact me please this is about next level communication based on cooperative hyper efficient flow. i can just now seem to read it and op is starting to understand the genius of john "satoshi nakamoto" nash

That is partly why I started this thread-- to share my ideas to those willing to consider them. It gives people a chance to enlighten themselves if they are open and looking for answers.

The only solution for ignorance is education. If the entire population knew the truth of how things really are, then they would stand up for themselves. But if people don't know, then of course they won't do anything about it.

People like Ron Paul, Mike Maloney*, Satoshi Nakamoto, Thrive**, are heroes because they are educating the masses on the truth and getting rid of ignorance as much as they are able to.

Those individuals are contributing to an educated population and in that way they are fighting against oppression in the most powerful way possible.

Ideas and knowledge are powerful-- if they are known, and known by enough people.


*Again, this is Mike Maloney for those who don't know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0
**This is a documentary name, not an individual's name.


I think it shows that your mind is not closed off to new ideas, which is a good thing. I agree with you. I think anything is possible and it doesn't do me any good to be close-minded to possibilities.

I will watch that, thanks.

thanks a lot for the link, it beautifully describes the core problem.
and pening, are you educated now enough? it's not possible that you still can't get what we're talking about here, is that a conspiracy? well i think yes.

You're welcome. He does an amazing job of explaining economic issues in layman's terms.

Andreas Antonopoulos and Stefan Molyneux are my fav speakers for Bitcoin and Mike Maloney and Ron Paul are my fav speakers for fiat economy explanations.