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Title: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: asimoshe on April 11, 2014, 02:13:42 PM
Help me decide guys


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: DubFX on April 11, 2014, 02:20:16 PM
From what i've heard Microsoft prepared prices for almost everything on their market so you will have to pay for alot of their services, or whatever they call it so i'd rather go for PS4 if you want it for gaming, if you wanna more entertainment in your living room like movies and so on then go for xbox one.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: rohnearner on April 11, 2014, 02:22:22 PM
Help me decide guys

PS4 for me..!
btw you are asking this question  on wrong forum you'll not see many gamers here..! even the one who plays games they play at casinos .


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: DubFX on April 11, 2014, 02:24:38 PM
Help me decide guys

PS4 for me..!
btw you are asking this question  on wrong forum you'll not see many gamers here..! even the one who plays games they play at casinos .
Maybe few gamers will gather here and help. Also OP you may want to read this article:
http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/consoles/ps4-vs-xbox-720-which-is-better-1127315#null


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: techgeek on April 11, 2014, 02:52:06 PM
Id say Ps4, since it has better games. You dont have to pay no monthly like xbox ones account players.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: DubFX on April 11, 2014, 02:57:57 PM
Id say Ps4, since it has better games. You dont have to pay no monthly like xbox ones account players.
That's what i've been talking about i hate when you have to pay some kind of "fees" after you buy game, console or something like this.
It reminds me apple wich i hate.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: bitgeek on April 11, 2014, 03:09:30 PM
Personally, I don't like consoles, PC is much better, but I'd take PS4, it's just better.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: DubFX on April 11, 2014, 03:18:54 PM
Personally, I don't like consoles, PC is much better, but I'd take PS4, it's just better.
It is but it won't let you lie down on bed or couch and play on TV  ;D


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: jparsley on April 11, 2014, 03:34:33 PM
Ill take ps4 and use it as a powerpc


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: zolace on April 11, 2014, 04:11:29 PM
Xbox one


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: DubFX on April 11, 2014, 04:21:09 PM
Xbox one
6 versus 1? :D


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: cooldgamer on April 11, 2014, 04:28:22 PM
Help me decide guys

PS4 for me..!
btw you are asking this question  on wrong forum you'll not see many gamers here..! even the one who plays games they play at casinos .
I dunno, it's pretty tempting to use all the GPUs left from Scrypt mining to build a PC gaming monster :D


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: leepsteer00 on April 11, 2014, 04:42:05 PM
Personally, I don't like consoles, PC is much better, but I'd take PS4, it's just better.
+1, I'll go for PC.

It is but it won't let you lie down on bed or couch and play on TV  ;D
1. Get a good HDMI cable and hook the pc with your tv.
2. Get a controller from Logitech/Microsoft (or even Razor), depending on which layout you like.
3. Done. Now you can sit on your couch and play the game on tv with a pc.

Just my $0.02 :D


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Kiki112 on April 11, 2014, 06:38:21 PM
playstation 4, xbox is for americans


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Equate on April 11, 2014, 06:56:27 PM
ps4 anytime over xbox one


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: AwSuits on April 11, 2014, 06:59:36 PM
You should watch the episode of TBBT  where sheldon struggles with the same question. S07E19 i think


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: DubFX on April 11, 2014, 07:52:03 PM
Personally, I don't like consoles, PC is much better, but I'd take PS4, it's just better.
+1, I'll go for PC.

It is but it won't let you lie down on bed or couch and play on TV  ;D
1. Get a good HDMI cable and hook the pc with your tv.
2. Get a controller from Logitech/Microsoft (or even Razor), depending on which layout you like.
3. Done. Now you can sit on your couch and play the game on tv with a pc.

Just my $0.02 :D
But it's harder to play console controllers belongs to consoles and it's kinda differennt experience.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Damascius on April 11, 2014, 08:04:57 PM
PS4 > XBone watercooler  ::)


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: mprep on April 11, 2014, 08:14:47 PM
Personally, I don't like consoles, PC is much better, but I'd take PS4, it's just better.
+1, I'll go for PC.

It is but it won't let you lie down on bed or couch and play on TV  ;D
1. Get a good HDMI cable and hook the pc with your tv.
2. Get a controller from Logitech/Microsoft (or even Razor), depending on which layout you like.
3. Done. Now you can sit on your couch and play the game on tv with a pc.

Just my $0.02 :D
But it's harder to play console controllers belongs to consoles and it's kinda differennt experience.
Haven't you heard of Steam's Big Picture? Tons of games with controller support, Steam's UI and a browser fitting for a controller. Pretty much the awesomeness of a PC for console users.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: BitCoinsLOL on April 11, 2014, 08:24:31 PM
Help me decide guys

You have to watch the Black Friday South Park Trilogy 1st before you make any decisions.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: MGK- on April 11, 2014, 08:55:23 PM
Xbox One. I don't complain about paying for xbox live because you get much better service. I heard PS online sucks and is down for weeks at a time, how can you complain when its free?


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: bitgeek on April 11, 2014, 09:58:03 PM
Help me decide guys

PS4 for me..!
btw you are asking this question  on wrong forum you'll not see many gamers here..! even the one who plays games they play at casinos .
I dunno, it's pretty tempting to use all the GPUs left from Scrypt mining to build a PC gaming monster :D
You don't really need more than one card for gaming, unless you're using a triple screen, high resolution setup.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: b!z on April 12, 2014, 05:14:24 AM
Wii U






just kidding


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Hazir on April 12, 2014, 05:48:10 AM
PS4 for sure, xbox failed even before its release. I predict PS4 will win console war it would be like in PS2 times when it was the best and the most popular console.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: kuroman on April 12, 2014, 10:25:09 PM
PS4 for exclusive, most xbox hits are coming to PC aswell (in a much better quality, graphics, frame rate ....ect)


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Kiki112 on April 12, 2014, 11:41:01 PM
PS4 for exclusive, most xbox hits are coming to PC aswell (in a much better quality, graphics, frame rate ....ect)

except for Alan Wake and Halo :D


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: kuroman on April 12, 2014, 11:54:50 PM
PS4 for exclusive, most xbox hits are coming to PC aswell (in a much better quality, graphics, frame rate ....ect)

except for Alan Wake and Halo :D

that's why I said most ^^ also there are some Halos that hited the PC, all Sony exclusives are exclusives to the PS4, also the PS4 is a much better value in terms of hardware than the XBOne for the price


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: d-trix on April 13, 2014, 02:02:48 AM
I think the PS4 have better graphics no matter what because it was built to be a gaming console. While Xbox One was built to be an all-in-one entertainment hub, a device that has no choice but to compensate its gaming graphics for everything else packed in the console. PS4 is a better gaming machine than Xbox One!


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: WEB slicer on April 13, 2014, 02:08:24 AM
some games on xbox are 720p but on ps4 they are 1080p. call of duty ghosts being one of them. ps4 is cheaper has better hardware and free online.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: MonkeyDOH on April 13, 2014, 03:15:04 AM
Help me decide guys

Both are ok
but choose PS4 if you are a gamer


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Hazir on April 13, 2014, 03:51:49 AM
some games on xbox are 720p but on ps4 they are 1080p. call of duty ghosts being one of them. ps4 is cheaper has better hardware and free online.

Nothing is fee online anymore,you need to buy PS+ subscription. It will be required for online play you'll still be able to access other feature just not online play without subscription to PS+, but there's plenty of other benefits included with a PS+ subscription including free games, discounts and betas. One subscription covers PS3, PS4 and PSVita so great value if you own all three.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: sosulon on April 13, 2014, 06:04:40 AM
PC doesn't stand a chance this fight ?  :(

IMO , PS4 is the way to go for console.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: bumblebeee on April 13, 2014, 06:31:02 AM
I noticed most ppl are Ps4 lol.

It shows what better system to get.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: sosulon on April 13, 2014, 06:32:48 AM
Still , maybe just that those Xbox people haven't reply yet  ;D


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: coinnewbit on April 13, 2014, 06:33:50 AM
ps4 gogogoo


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Thyaga on April 13, 2014, 10:00:09 AM
Just Share For your Review.....

Xbox One vs PS4 design

Deciding between PS4 and Xbox One is like peeling back an onion, and it starts with the outermost layer, the design.

Xbox One's dimensions make it a menacing gaming beast that measures 13.5 in x 10.4 in x 3.2 in. It's also riddled with vents as to not overheat for another Red Ring of Death scenario.

Xbox One dimensionsXbox One is a monster console with lots of vents, but at least it won't overheat

It towers over every other device (though Microsoft advises not to stand it up vertically), and completely dwarfs our smallest home theater gadget, the app-filled Chromecast.

PS4 has a more distinctive angular shape with an overall stylish design. This half-matte half-gloss console measures a slimmer 10.8 in x 12 in x 2 in at its widest regions.

These dimensions make Sony's machine more media cabinet-friendly, at least next to Xbox One. The new Xbox also weighs a heftier 3.56 kg to PS4's 2.75 kg.

PS4 dimensionsPS4 is smaller and a little more stylish

PS4 has the advantage of hiding ports too, though as we illustrated in our video comparison, this can actually make it harder to plug cables into the back of the system.

In this way, Xbox One represents functionality over form. A lot of the specs are comparable, but Microsoft and Sony really diverged when it came to the designs of Xbox One and PS4.

That may matter since you're buying into an expensive console that's going to sit front and center in your living room entertainment system for the next ten years.

Xbox One vs PS4 front and rear ports

More clear cut is the wireless connectivity situation. PS4 makes room for gigabit ethernet and 802.11 WiFi bands b/g/n, while Xbox One includes all of that plus the older 802.11a band.

Xbox One also supports both the 2.4GHz and newer 5GHz channels that are compatible with dual band routers. PS4 limits connections to 2.4GHz, which is likely to have more interference.

Both systems have 500GB hard drives, but only PS4 allows user-replaceable internal drives. An Xbox One teardown found a standard-looking drive inside, but replacing it voids the warranty.

Instead, Xbox One owners will eventually be able to add external storage to their monster-sized system. That's not an option that Sony supports in its "go big or go home" internal approach.

PS4 vs Xbox One rear portsPS4 vs Xbox One rear ports

PS4 and Xbox One are void of remarkable characteristics on the front. There's a Blu-ray/DVD combo drive to the left and their respective, muted-color logos to the right. PS3 has a pair of USB ports tucked between its sandwich-like halves next to where the disc drive is located.
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Xbox One review Our first impressions of Microsoft's new Kinect-powered games machine.

It's all around back for Xbox One. That's where it has two USB ports (a third port is on the side), HDMI in, HDMI out, S/PDIF for digital audio, a proprietary Xbox One Kinect port, an IR blaster connection and an Ethernet port. To the far right is a K-lock in case you want to lug this system around to LAN parties.

Sony went with a minimalist approach when it came to PS4's rear ports. You'll only find an HDMI out, S/PDIF, Ethernet and PS4 camera port (marked "AUX") around back.

Xbox One is more feature-packed in this area thanks to its HDMI in and IR blaster connections used for its TV cable or satellite box functionality. PS4 lacks this passthrough technology, opting to stick with gaming as its top priority.
Is PS4 or Xbox more powerful?

PS4 and Xbox One multiply the power of Xbox 360 and PS3. More importantly, they were built with smarter internal designs, drawing from mistakes of last-generation consoles.

Chip manufacturer AMD benefitted the most from these upgrades. Xbox One has a custom 1.75GHz AMD 8-core CPU, a last-minute upgrade over its original 1.6GHz processor.

The PS4 CPU remained clocked at 1.6GHz and contains a similar custom AMD 8-core CPU with x86 based architecture.

This represents a roughly 10% increase in processing power for Xbox One, but the opposite is true when it comes to the all-important graphics processor.

PS4 boasts a 1.84 teraflop GPU that's based on AMD's Radeon technology. The Xbox One graphics chip, also with an AMD Radeon GPU, has a pipeline for 1.31 teraflops.

To that point, the PS4 specs make room for much faster graphics rendering than Xbox One, especially when combined with Sony's choice in superior system memory.
Best PS4 vs Xbox One specs for RAM

Even more controversial is the memory under the consoles' matte black hoods. It's not the amount of memory at issue - both are future-proofed with 8GB of RAM - it's the type used.

PS4 has a distinct advantage with faster 8GB GDDR5 memory, while Xbox One went with the slower bandwidth of the 8GB DDR3 variety. But, wait, there's more to it.

Neither system allocates all of that RAM to game developers - some is reserved to run their operating systems.

PS4 reserves up to 3.5GB for its operating system, leaving developers with 4.5GB, according to documentation. They can sometimes access an extra 1GB of "flexible" memory when it's available, but that's not guaranteed.

Xbox One's "guaranteed memory" amounts to a slightly higher 5GB for developers, as Microsoft's multi-layered operating system takes up a steady 3GB. It eeks out a 0.5GB win with more developer-accessible memory than PS4, unless you factor in Sony's 1GB of "flexible" memory at times. Then it's 0.5GB less.

The PS4 and Xbox One specs have similar AMD architecture at their core, but contrast like apples and oranges when it comes to memory. Only developers can determine how this battle is won.

PS4 vs Xbox One graphics comparison

Putting all of these specs to the test, developers have had months to build and demo games to us. We're finally seeing the side-by-side results.

The graphics comparison between multi-console games, like the recently released Metal Gear Solid 5: Ground Zeros, have given us the best PS4 vs Xbox One graphics benchmarks.

A gameplay video on YouTube of MGS5: Ground Zeros pans between the four versions of the game with a definitive answer.

The conclusion is that there's slightly more clarity to the PS4 version. Specifically, more distant textures and moving objects appear softer among the otherwise identical Xbox One visuals.

It's a trend we're seeing from PS4 games that achieve a 1080p resolution at 30 or 60 frames per second when their Xbox One counterparts run at 720p or 900p at 30 or 60fps.

That's the case with Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty: Ghosts, The Witcher 2 and Thief. It's even more evident in Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition where it's 60fps on PS4 vs 30fps on Xbox One.

Battlefield 4 is one of the few PS4 games with a native resolution of 900p. Alas, it was still just 720p on Xbox One. Not that it matters. Both versions were plagued with glitches for months.

This is in no way a deal-breaker for the Xbox One, and here's why. First, it's almost impossible to tell the difference without a side-by-side comparison.

Second, everyone's hopeful that as developers mature with the new consoles, the gap will close and games on both systems will prove what next-generation gaming is all about.

DirectX12 could make that a reality, with Microsoft promising a preview version of its Direct3D 12 graphics toolset by the end of the year. It could make up for the slower DDR3 RAM.

Third, the differences are more noticeable in the Xbox One and PS4 graphics comparisons that include Xbox 360 and PS3. Both Microsoft and Sony leave their last-generation graphics chip architecture and RAM limitations behind, and it shows.


Xbox One vs PS4 price difference

It's expensive to be an early adopter, and the PS4 and Xbox One prices proves just that in each of the countries the systems have launched.

The PS4 price was the more tempting deal at launch: £349 for the console and DualShock 4 controller. Xbox One was more expensive at £429 for the system, Xbox One controller and Kinect.

An official Xbox One price drop in the UK has made this comparison almost a moot point. The new list price is £399 and some UK retailers have an Xbox One bundle with Titanfall for £389.

There hasn't been a similar price drop in the US or Australia, but the Xbox One Titanfall bundle has been carried over to both territories.

The price difference gave Sony an early lead at face value, and gamers didn't seem to mind that the PS4 camera was a separate purchase. It's also the only console of the two available in Japan.

As shoppers know, however, PS4 was hard to come by early on. That lead to an increase in Xbox One sales over the holidays.

Microsoft's console was more readily available, possibly swaying some gamers and, more likely, parents eager to buy any next-generation gift in stock.

The next push for renewed Xbox One and PS4 sales could come during E3 2014, the annual Los Angeles-based video game event that often kicks off price drops. For next-gen holdouts, June can't come soon enough.

What's IncludedWhat's included? Not a PS4 camera, that's for sure

What's in the box?

There's more value in the Xbox One bundle, accounting for some of the price difference, so it's important to dive deeper into what's included and, of course, what's not included in the box.

Xbox One comes with the console, a controller, the Kinect camera and, if you purchased the recent bundle, Titanfall.

Its launch consoles originally came with "Day One 2013" emblazoned on the cardboard box and at the center of the controller. A nice perk for Xbox loyalists, though we're sure they would've rather had Titanfall.

The box also contains an HDMI cable, wired mono headset and stingy 14-day free trial for Microsoft's Xbox Live Gold online service. There's no USB charging cable, as the Xbox One controller uses batteries out-of-the-box.

Inside the PS4 box is the console and one DualShock 4 controller. Wires include an HDMI cable (Sony learned its lesson after backlash for not including one with the PS3) and a micro-USB cable for the controller.

Don't throw out the box right away. Tucked inside is a 30-day subscription to PlayStation Plus and a wired mono earbud, contrasting with the just-a-cheap Xbox One headset.

The difference between the PS4 and Xbox One box contents comes down to the camera. When Titanfall and Kinect are included with an Xbox One, its higher prices are negligible.

The controllers

The most important aspects of the PS4 vs Xbox One controller comparison include comfort, size and battery life, but a lot of this is going to come down to personal preference.

The good news is that both conform to your hands better vs the less ergonomic Xbox 360 and PS3 versions.

The Xbox One vs Xbox 360 gamepad comparison illustrates some of the 40 design innovations like a tweaked D-Pad and extra rumble effect via "Impulse Triggers" in the shoulder buttons.

Our PS4 vs PS3 gamepad comparison shows even bigger improvements thanks to the fact that the DualShock 4 is larger this time around. Its handles are easier to grip in long gameplay sessions and its dual analog sticks have a recessed divot. Precision movement is now easier.

The PS4 controller's front touchpad and mono speaker are a unique way to interact with games, and developers are starting to find ways to adopt this technology into their controls schemes.

Which controller is better? There's a lot of satisfaction with the PS4 gamepad, but that may have more to do with people's surprise at how much more comfortable the DualShock 4 is compared to the DualShock 3. That wow factor may wear away soon.

The Xbox One vs PS4 controller comparison ends up being a matter of opinion. Some gamers are accustomed to Sony's parallel dual analog sticks, while plenty of others opt for offset analog sticks that have been part of the Xbox universe since the beginning.

kinect vs ps4 cameraNeither have proven themselves worthy

Xbox One Kinect vs PS4 Camera

A robust games list for Xbox One Kinect and PS4 Camera has been slow to materialize, even though Microsoft and Sony insisted on sticking with controller-free camera inputs.

Right now, Xbox One Kinect offers more reason to keep the included 1080p camera plugged in. There's a free Kinect Sports Rivals demo that's fun, and the full version just came out.

The new Kinect also supports two Xbox-exclusive workout games, Fantasia: Music Evolved and Just Dance 2014. Fighter Within also makes use of the camera, but it's far from playable.

The added benefit is that Kinect technology is promising, tracking up to six skeletons at once and processing 2GB of data per second. It can pick up heart rates, facial expressions and 25 joints, thumbs included.

Its 60% wider field of vision compared to the Xbox 360 Kinect remedies the annoying "stand 6 feet away" error messages we experienced last time around.

PS4 doesn't have as much to offer at this point, but it's hard to find in stock. Formerly called the PlayStation Eye, it features two 1280x800px cameras in a body that's slimmer than the Kinect.

Unfortunately, the PS4 Camera games list is also slimmer. The included robot mini-game The Playroom has been updated since the console launch, but little else besides Just Dance 2014 requires the device.

In the future, Project Morpheus will utilize the PS4 Camera for virtual reality, but the a long-off prospect of VR games doesn't really explain why the camera is sold out.

Xbox One vs PS4 apps

The Xbox 360 and PS3 proved to be more than just gaming machines and Xbox One and PS4 are no different. Of course, most are shared across both platforms.

US gamers have access to Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, Hulu Plus, Crackle, Vudu and Redbox Instant along with baseball season newcomer MLB.TV.

In the UK, both systems share Netflix, Crackle, Amazon Instant Video (formerly Lovefilm) and Demand5.

Xbox One in the US corners the app-filled market with ESPN, Fox Now, FX Now, NFL, Ted, The CW, Twitch, Univision Deportes, Verizon FiOS TV and YouTube. It also has Microsoft's own Internet Explorer, OneDrive, Skype and Xbox Music and Xbox Video services.

Exclusive Xbox One apps in the UK include YouTube, Ted, Twitch and region-specific services like 4oD, Blinkbox, Eurosport, Muzu.tv, Sky's Now TV and Wuaki.tv. Microsoft-owned apps Internet Explorer, OneDrive, Skype and Xbox Music and Xbox Video are all here too.

That contrasts with PS4 in the US and UK. Sony's US console features Crunchyroll, Epix, NBA Game Time, NHL GameCenter Live, YuppTV, the WWE Network and the free music video playing app VidZone.

The UK has VidZone and the WWE Network too, plus BBC iPlayer, BBC Sports and BBC News. All regions have access to Sony's Music Unlimited and Videos Unlimited services.

In Australia, app-deprived gamers have access to VidZone and Quickflix and Sony's own apps. Xbox One delivers a better lineup: Crackle, MLB.TV, SBS ON DEMAND, Ted, TENplay, Twitch and YouTube as well as most of Microsoft's apps.

Each region is expected to see more niche apps as time goes on, so this is hardly the final list of apps for Xbox One and PS4. We're still waiting for a proper next-generation version of HBO Go, with the PS4 app said to be in the development now.
Are Xbox One vs PS4 backward compatible?

Sony and Microsoft keep teasing the ability to bring old games to their new systems in a variety of ways, but we're still waiting for Xbox One and PS4 backward compatibility.

Of course, it's unlikely to be free. Sony is rolling out PlayStation Now beta invites that so far have brought The Last of Us, God of War: Ascension, Puppeteer and Beyond: Two Souls to Bravia TVs and the PlayStation Vita.

As Sony expands its Gaikai-based video game streaming service to PS3 and PS4 and brings additional PlayStation, PS2 and last-generation games to it, we're likely to see a subscription of some sort for games we're more than willing to pay for to play again.

Microsoft could take the same route with Xbox One backward compatibility. The company is working on Xbox 360 emulation for the newer console, but doesn't have plans to bring it to fruition right now.

None of these options are here yet. That means you'll need to keep your Xbox 360 and PS3 in order to replay Halo 4 and Uncharted 3. You can't sell the systems, and that means people won't be able to readily buy them - they're more likely to purchase them directly from Microsoft and Sony.
Other PS4 and Xbox One differences

The look of the console, the feel of the controller and the appeal of the games list are the main differences from which consumers will decide on PS4 and Xbox One.

However, there are other factors at play one should consider before buying into a new system. It's a good idea to converse with friends, keeping mind of their potential bias.

Since there's no such thing as cross-platform multiplayer, you may be split up when playing Call of Duty on PS4 when all of your friends own it for Xbox One.

Both Microsoft and Sony are charging for multiplayer this generation, whereas PS3 gamers got to log into matches Scott-Free.

It should be noted that Sony graciously made streaming video content like Netflix, Hulu Plus and MLB.TV free to use on PS4. You won't be required to purchase a PlayStation Plus subscription if you don't want one. Only Microsoft is going to lock apps behind its Xbox Live paywall.

Microsoft, however, supports MP3 and DLNA playback with the Xbox One, whereas Sony neglected to add such compatibility. It's promising to rectify that in a future firmware update. The Xbox Live requirement for apps is likely to remain.

Next-generation console buyers who don't plan on paying the yearly fee and do plan on using the system for entertainment purposes may want to weigh that into their final decision.






Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: leepsteer00 on April 13, 2014, 10:04:08 AM
Just Share For your Review.....

Xbox One vs PS4 design

Deciding between PS4 and Xbox One is like peeling back an onion, and it starts with the outermost layer, the design.

Xbox One's dimensions make it a menacing gaming beast that measures 13.5 in x 10.4 in x 3.2 in. It's also riddled with vents as to not overheat for another Red Ring of Death scenario.

Xbox One dimensionsXbox One is a monster console with lots of vents, but at least it won't overheat

It towers over every other device (though Microsoft advises not to stand it up vertically), and completely dwarfs our smallest home theater gadget, the app-filled Chromecast.

PS4 has a more distinctive angular shape with an overall stylish design. This half-matte half-gloss console measures a slimmer 10.8 in x 12 in x 2 in at its widest regions.

These dimensions make Sony's machine more media cabinet-friendly, at least next to Xbox One. The new Xbox also weighs a heftier 3.56 kg to PS4's 2.75 kg.

PS4 dimensionsPS4 is smaller and a little more stylish

PS4 has the advantage of hiding ports too, though as we illustrated in our video comparison, this can actually make it harder to plug cables into the back of the system.

In this way, Xbox One represents functionality over form. A lot of the specs are comparable, but Microsoft and Sony really diverged when it came to the designs of Xbox One and PS4.

That may matter since you're buying into an expensive console that's going to sit front and center in your living room entertainment system for the next ten years.
Xbox One vs PS4 front and rear ports
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ps4
PlayStation 4 reviewWe've fondled the hardware and we've played the games. Check out what we think of the PS4.

More clear cut is the wireless connectivity situation. PS4 makes room for gigabit ethernet and 802.11 WiFi bands b/g/n, while Xbox One includes all of that plus the older 802.11a band.

Xbox One also supports both the 2.4GHz and newer 5GHz channels that are compatible with dual band routers. PS4 limits connections to 2.4GHz, which is likely to have more interference.

Both systems have 500GB hard drives, but only PS4 allows user-replaceable internal drives. An Xbox One teardown found a standard-looking drive inside, but replacing it voids the warranty.

Instead, Xbox One owners will eventually be able to add external storage to their monster-sized system. That's not an option that Sony supports in its "go big or go home" internal approach.

PS4 vs Xbox One rear portsPS4 vs Xbox One rear ports

PS4 and Xbox One are void of remarkable characteristics on the front. There's a Blu-ray/DVD combo drive to the left and their respective, muted-color logos to the right. PS3 has a pair of USB ports tucked between its sandwich-like halves next to where the disc drive is located.
Next gen reviews
Xbox One
Xbox One reviewOur first impressions of Microsoft's new Kinect-powered games machine.

It's all around back for Xbox One. That's where it has two USB ports (a third port is on the side), HDMI in, HDMI out, S/PDIF for digital audio, a proprietary Xbox One Kinect port, an IR blaster connection and an Ethernet port. To the far right is a K-lock in case you want to lug this system around to LAN parties.

Sony went with a minimalist approach when it came to PS4's rear ports. You'll only find an HDMI out, S/PDIF, Ethernet and PS4 camera port (marked "AUX") around back.

Xbox One is more feature-packed in this area thanks to its HDMI in and IR blaster connections used for its TV cable or satellite box functionality. PS4 lacks this passthrough technology, opting to stick with gaming as its top priority.
Is PS4 or Xbox more powerful?

PS4 and Xbox One multiply the power of Xbox 360 and PS3. More importantly, they were built with smarter internal designs, drawing from mistakes of last-generation consoles.

Chip manufacturer AMD benefitted the most from these upgrades. Xbox One has a custom 1.75GHz AMD 8-core CPU, a last-minute upgrade over its original 1.6GHz processor.

The PS4 CPU remained clocked at 1.6GHz and contains a similar custom AMD 8-core CPU with x86 based architecture.

This represents a roughly 10% increase in processing power for Xbox One, but the opposite is true when it comes to the all-important graphics processor.

PS4 boasts a 1.84 teraflop GPU that's based on AMD's Radeon technology. The Xbox One graphics chip, also with an AMD Radeon GPU, has a pipeline for 1.31 teraflops.

To that point, the PS4 specs make room for much faster graphics rendering than Xbox One, especially when combined with Sony's choice in superior system memory.
Best PS4 vs Xbox One specs for RAM

Even more controversial is the memory under the consoles' matte black hoods. It's not the amount of memory at issue - both are future-proofed with 8GB of RAM - it's the type used.

PS4 has a distinct advantage with faster 8GB GDDR5 memory, while Xbox One went with the slower bandwidth of the 8GB DDR3 variety. But, wait, there's more to it.

Neither system allocates all of that RAM to game developers - some is reserved to run their operating systems.

PS4 reserves up to 3.5GB for its operating system, leaving developers with 4.5GB, according to documentation. They can sometimes access an extra 1GB of "flexible" memory when it's available, but that's not guaranteed.

Xbox One's "guaranteed memory" amounts to a slightly higher 5GB for developers, as Microsoft's multi-layered operating system takes up a steady 3GB. It eeks out a 0.5GB win with more developer-accessible memory than PS4, unless you factor in Sony's 1GB of "flexible" memory at times. Then it's 0.5GB less.

The PS4 and Xbox One specs have similar AMD architecture at their core, but contrast like apples and oranges when it comes to memory. Only developers can determine how this battle is won.

PS4 vs Xbox One graphics comparison

Putting all of these specs to the test, developers have had months to build and demo games to us. We're finally seeing the side-by-side results.

The graphics comparison between multi-console games, like the recently released Metal Gear Solid 5: Ground Zeros, have given us the best PS4 vs Xbox One graphics benchmarks.

A gameplay video on YouTube of MGS5: Ground Zeros pans between the four versions of the game with a definitive answer.

The conclusion is that there's slightly more clarity to the PS4 version. Specifically, more distant textures and moving objects appear softer among the otherwise identical Xbox One visuals.

It's a trend we're seeing from PS4 games that achieve a 1080p resolution at 30 or 60 frames per second when their Xbox One counterparts run at 720p or 900p at 30 or 60fps.

That's the case with Assassin's Creed, Call of Duty: Ghosts, The Witcher 2 and Thief. It's even more evident in Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition where it's 60fps on PS4 vs 30fps on Xbox One.

Battlefield 4 is one of the few PS4 games with a native resolution of 900p. Alas, it was still just 720p on Xbox One. Not that it matters. Both versions were plagued with glitches for months.

This is in no way a deal-breaker for the Xbox One, and here's why. First, it's almost impossible to tell the difference without a side-by-side comparison.

Second, everyone's hopeful that as developers mature with the new consoles, the gap will close and games on both systems will prove what next-generation gaming is all about.

DirectX12 could make that a reality, with Microsoft promising a preview version of its Direct3D 12 graphics toolset by the end of the year. It could make up for the slower DDR3 RAM.

Third, the differences are more noticeable in the Xbox One and PS4 graphics comparisons that include Xbox 360 and PS3. Both Microsoft and Sony leave their last-generation graphics chip architecture and RAM limitations behind, and it shows.


Xbox One vs PS4 price difference

It's expensive to be an early adopter, and the PS4 and Xbox One prices proves just that in each of the countries the systems have launched.

The PS4 price was the more tempting deal at launch: £349 for the console and DualShock 4 controller. Xbox One was more expensive at £429 for the system, Xbox One controller and Kinect.

An official Xbox One price drop in the UK has made this comparison almost a moot point. The new list price is £399 and some UK retailers have an Xbox One bundle with Titanfall for £389.

There hasn't been a similar price drop in the US or Australia, but the Xbox One Titanfall bundle has been carried over to both territories.

The price difference gave Sony an early lead at face value, and gamers didn't seem to mind that the PS4 camera was a separate purchase. It's also the only console of the two available in Japan.

As shoppers know, however, PS4 was hard to come by early on. That lead to an increase in Xbox One sales over the holidays.

Microsoft's console was more readily available, possibly swaying some gamers and, more likely, parents eager to buy any next-generation gift in stock.

The next push for renewed Xbox One and PS4 sales could come during E3 2014, the annual Los Angeles-based video game event that often kicks off price drops. For next-gen holdouts, June can't come soon enough.

What's IncludedWhat's included? Not a PS4 camera, that's for sure

What's in the box?

There's more value in the Xbox One bundle, accounting for some of the price difference, so it's important to dive deeper into what's included and, of course, what's not included in the box.

Xbox One comes with the console, a controller, the Kinect camera and, if you purchased the recent bundle, Titanfall.

Its launch consoles originally came with "Day One 2013" emblazoned on the cardboard box and at the center of the controller. A nice perk for Xbox loyalists, though we're sure they would've rather had Titanfall.

The box also contains an HDMI cable, wired mono headset and stingy 14-day free trial for Microsoft's Xbox Live Gold online service. There's no USB charging cable, as the Xbox One controller uses batteries out-of-the-box.

Inside the PS4 box is the console and one DualShock 4 controller. Wires include an HDMI cable (Sony learned its lesson after backlash for not including one with the PS3) and a micro-USB cable for the controller.

Don't throw out the box right away. Tucked inside is a 30-day subscription to PlayStation Plus and a wired mono earbud, contrasting with the just-a-cheap Xbox One headset.

The difference between the PS4 and Xbox One box contents comes down to the camera. When Titanfall and Kinect are included with an Xbox One, its higher prices are negligible.

The controllers

The most important aspects of the PS4 vs Xbox One controller comparison include comfort, size and battery life, but a lot of this is going to come down to personal preference.

The good news is that both conform to your hands better vs the less ergonomic Xbox 360 and PS3 versions.

The Xbox One vs Xbox 360 gamepad comparison illustrates some of the 40 design innovations like a tweaked D-Pad and extra rumble effect via "Impulse Triggers" in the shoulder buttons.

Our PS4 vs PS3 gamepad comparison shows even bigger improvements thanks to the fact that the DualShock 4 is larger this time around. Its handles are easier to grip in long gameplay sessions and its dual analog sticks have a recessed divot. Precision movement is now easier.

The PS4 controller's front touchpad and mono speaker are a unique way to interact with games, and developers are starting to find ways to adopt this technology into their controls schemes.

Which controller is better? There's a lot of satisfaction with the PS4 gamepad, but that may have more to do with people's surprise at how much more comfortable the DualShock 4 is compared to the DualShock 3. That wow factor may wear away soon.

The Xbox One vs PS4 controller comparison ends up being a matter of opinion. Some gamers are accustomed to Sony's parallel dual analog sticks, while plenty of others opt for offset analog sticks that have been part of the Xbox universe since the beginning.

kinect vs ps4 cameraNeither have proven themselves worthy

Xbox One Kinect vs PS4 Camera

A robust games list for Xbox One Kinect and PS4 Camera has been slow to materialize, even though Microsoft and Sony insisted on sticking with controller-free camera inputs.

Right now, Xbox One Kinect offers more reason to keep the included 1080p camera plugged in. There's a free Kinect Sports Rivals demo that's fun, and the full version just came out.

The new Kinect also supports two Xbox-exclusive workout games, Fantasia: Music Evolved and Just Dance 2014. Fighter Within also makes use of the camera, but it's far from playable.

The added benefit is that Kinect technology is promising, tracking up to six skeletons at once and processing 2GB of data per second. It can pick up heart rates, facial expressions and 25 joints, thumbs included.

Its 60% wider field of vision compared to the Xbox 360 Kinect remedies the annoying "stand 6 feet away" error messages we experienced last time around.

PS4 doesn't have as much to offer at this point, but it's hard to find in stock. Formerly called the PlayStation Eye, it features two 1280x800px cameras in a body that's slimmer than the Kinect.

Unfortunately, the PS4 Camera games list is also slimmer. The included robot mini-game The Playroom has been updated since the console launch, but little else besides Just Dance 2014 requires the device.

In the future, Project Morpheus will utilize the PS4 Camera for virtual reality, but the a long-off prospect of VR games doesn't really explain why the camera is sold out.

Xbox One vs PS4 apps

The Xbox 360 and PS3 proved to be more than just gaming machines and Xbox One and PS4 are no different. Of course, most are shared across both platforms.

US gamers have access to Netflix, Amazon Instant Video, Hulu Plus, Crackle, Vudu and Redbox Instant along with baseball season newcomer MLB.TV.

In the UK, both systems share Netflix, Crackle, Amazon Instant Video (formerly Lovefilm) and Demand5.

Xbox One in the US corners the app-filled market with ESPN, Fox Now, FX Now, NFL, Ted, The CW, Twitch, Univision Deportes, Verizon FiOS TV and YouTube. It also has Microsoft's own Internet Explorer, OneDrive, Skype and Xbox Music and Xbox Video services.

Exclusive Xbox One apps in the UK include YouTube, Ted, Twitch and region-specific services like 4oD, Blinkbox, Eurosport, Muzu.tv, Sky's Now TV and Wuaki.tv. Microsoft-owned apps Internet Explorer, OneDrive, Skype and Xbox Music and Xbox Video are all here too.

That contrasts with PS4 in the US and UK. Sony's US console features Crunchyroll, Epix, NBA Game Time, NHL GameCenter Live, YuppTV, the WWE Network and the free music video playing app VidZone.

The UK has VidZone and the WWE Network too, plus BBC iPlayer, BBC Sports and BBC News. All regions have access to Sony's Music Unlimited and Videos Unlimited services.

In Australia, app-deprived gamers have access to VidZone and Quickflix and Sony's own apps. Xbox One delivers a better lineup: Crackle, MLB.TV, SBS ON DEMAND, Ted, TENplay, Twitch and YouTube as well as most of Microsoft's apps.

Each region is expected to see more niche apps as time goes on, so this is hardly the final list of apps for Xbox One and PS4. We're still waiting for a proper next-generation version of HBO Go, with the PS4 app said to be in the development now.
Are Xbox One vs PS4 backward compatible?

Sony and Microsoft keep teasing the ability to bring old games to their new systems in a variety of ways, but we're still waiting for Xbox One and PS4 backward compatibility.

Of course, it's unlikely to be free. Sony is rolling out PlayStation Now beta invites that so far have brought The Last of Us, God of War: Ascension, Puppeteer and Beyond: Two Souls to Bravia TVs and the PlayStation Vita.

As Sony expands its Gaikai-based video game streaming service to PS3 and PS4 and brings additional PlayStation, PS2 and last-generation games to it, we're likely to see a subscription of some sort for games we're more than willing to pay for to play again.

Microsoft could take the same route with Xbox One backward compatibility. The company is working on Xbox 360 emulation for the newer console, but doesn't have plans to bring it to fruition right now.

None of these options are here yet. That means you'll need to keep your Xbox 360 and PS3 in order to replay Halo 4 and Uncharted 3. You can't sell the systems, and that means people won't be able to readily buy them - they're more likely to purchase them directly from Microsoft and Sony.
Other PS4 and Xbox One differences

The look of the console, the feel of the controller and the appeal of the games list are the main differences from which consumers will decide on PS4 and Xbox One.

However, there are other factors at play one should consider before buying into a new system. It's a good idea to converse with friends, keeping mind of their potential bias.

Since there's no such thing as cross-platform multiplayer, you may be split up when playing Call of Duty on PS4 when all of your friends own it for Xbox One.

Both Microsoft and Sony are charging for multiplayer this generation, whereas PS3 gamers got to log into matches Scott-Free.

It should be noted that Sony graciously made streaming video content like Netflix, Hulu Plus and MLB.TV free to use on PS4. You won't be required to purchase a PlayStation Plus subscription if you don't want one. Only Microsoft is going to lock apps behind its Xbox Live paywall.

Microsoft, however, supports MP3 and DLNA playback with the Xbox One, whereas Sony neglected to add such compatibility. It's promising to rectify that in a future firmware update. The Xbox Live requirement for apps is likely to remain.

Next-generation console buyers who don't plan on paying the yearly fee and do plan on using the system for entertainment purposes may want to weigh that into their final decision.

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Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: DubFX on April 13, 2014, 10:28:48 AM
So i've played xbox one yesterday whole day and i gotta say this: ps4 for the win!


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Thyaga on April 13, 2014, 10:35:32 AM
You should include the original link of the review.

http://technology.worldnewsviews.com/2014/04/08/updated-ps4-vs-xbox-one-which-is-better/

I there any rules been written in this forum?
Don't u read my first line....
I think OP wouldn't be bother if I didn't put the link.
And why should you who objected?
I also helped to remove unneeded, and also, a bit of easier for the OP to not looking anymore.
He only asked for an opinion, not ask for a link.
FYI:  ::) and don't take from that site... lol. there is still many site, which is similar with the word.

So stop the nonsense.




Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: leepsteer00 on April 13, 2014, 12:00:18 PM
You should include the original link of the review.

http://technology.worldnewsviews.com/2014/04/08/updated-ps4-vs-xbox-one-which-is-better/

I there any rules been written in this forum?
Don't u read my first line....
I think OP wouldn't be bother if I didn't put the link.
And why should you who objected?
I also helped to remove unneeded, and also, a bit of easier for the OP to not looking anymore.
He only asked for an opinion, not ask for a link.
FYI:  ::) and don't take from that site... lol. there is still many site, which is similar with the word.

So stop the nonsense.


I'm not here to start an argument with you or anything else. No offense, but it's always better to refer back to the original source when you're using someone else's thing.

Cheers.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: randomlove on April 13, 2014, 12:13:34 PM
PC, who the fuck bothers with consoles except 7-12 year olds? Build a way better PC these days for the price of them monstrosities!


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: sosulon on April 13, 2014, 05:36:46 PM
PC, who the fuck bothers with consoles except 7-12 year olds? Build a way better PC these days for the price of them monstrosities!

I guess the benefit of PC is that you can replace the broken parts yourself instead of sending it over to get it fixed


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: MUFC on April 13, 2014, 05:55:56 PM
I've always been a playstation fanboy. Never really cared for xbox, though I really like Halo.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: randomlove on April 13, 2014, 05:56:58 PM
PC, who the fuck bothers with consoles except 7-12 year olds? Build a way better PC these days for the price of them monstrosities!

I guess the benefit of PC is that you can replace the broken parts yourself instead of sending it over to get it fixed

And with things like mantal and nvidias version (forget the name) we will have a low level api making what advantage the console had obsolete. Directx 12 is basically 11 with mantal bolted on.

Amd suck at drivers and mental is a complete fail as a launch but it will get better in time. Nvidias big win is steam backing them but the companies ethics are coming to bite them on there behind. No one will touch them in the business world because they blamed everyone for something at some point, never them ha ha. Not saying any company is good in this hell of a world we've allowed to happen.... But that's another subject.

Ps4 is by far the better console if any, xbone is aweful and the sales are worse than what's advertised and only going get worse. Microsoft is dead and that's a good thing! Its just in its death throws. This goes into IP and copyright with the advent of 3d printers and decentralised.... Everything there hold on innovation will die, same with all areas of centralised control but again, another subject but is highly relivent.

For £400/$500??? You can make a computer easy which will run anything out today. Things like low level api is despretly needed and when in full production in a few years the ps4/xbone will look so dated! There's a HUGE gain in processing power from these solutions and any card with mantal already will see 50% + improvement .... If there were more than 2 games but it is the beginning so give it time.

PC are the new in ;-)


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: yntro on April 13, 2014, 06:30:48 PM
If you are playing alone... take PS4 if online XBOX1 its that simple.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: kuroman on April 13, 2014, 11:13:55 PM
PC, who the fuck bothers with consoles except 7-12 year olds? Build a way better PC these days for the price of them monstrosities!

I don't think games like "The last of us" or "God of war" are a 7 yo games You can build a PC at the same price, that will be close in terms of performance (a 400$/€ PC won't perform better than a PS4) but the thing about consoles is exclusives, and if I were to buy a console it would be the PS4 as it can play games at full 1080p and with decent frame rates unlike the XBOne.

I'm a PC guy and I didn't own a console in almost a decade now, but that being said I still believe there is a market for consoles due to exclusives and game library.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: randomlove on April 14, 2014, 04:27:59 AM
PC, who the fuck bothers with consoles except 7-12 year olds? Build a way better PC these days for the price of them monstrosities!

I don't think games like "The last of us" or "God of war" are a 7 yo games You can build a PC at the same price, that will be close in terms of performance (a 400$/€ PC won't perform better than a PS4) but the thing about consoles is exclusives, and if I were to buy a console it would be the PS4 as it can play games at full 1080p and with decent frame rates unlike the XBOne.

I'm a PC guy and I didn't own a console in almost a decade now, but that being said I still believe there is a market for consoles due to exclusives and game library.

With low level api that advantage consoles had over general purpose PCs is gone! So yes, I'm sorrybto say a £450 PC will crush a console. This I did say in my last... More lengthy post which you must have skipped. As I love tech and have done for decades I actually look beyhond what the msm says. I know the true horrors of the state of technology and its ugly and sad. for someone whonloves tech and as been dissapointed for 15 or so years bitcoin space is a fucking revalation! The excellerated growth that will come from this will make the industrial revolution look like childs play!


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: traderbit on April 14, 2014, 05:00:22 AM
playstation 4  very best !!!  8)


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: kuroman on April 14, 2014, 11:49:37 PM
PC, who the fuck bothers with consoles except 7-12 year olds? Build a way better PC these days for the price of them monstrosities!

I don't think games like "The last of us" or "God of war" are a 7 yo games You can build a PC at the same price, that will be close in terms of performance (a 400$/€ PC won't perform better than a PS4) but the thing about consoles is exclusives, and if I were to buy a console it would be the PS4 as it can play games at full 1080p and with decent frame rates unlike the XBOne.

I'm a PC guy and I didn't own a console in almost a decade now, but that being said I still believe there is a market for consoles due to exclusives and game library.

With low level api that advantage consoles had over general purpose PCs is gone! So yes, I'm sorrybto say a £450 PC will crush a console. This I did say in my last... More lengthy post which you must have skipped. As I love tech and have done for decades I actually look beyhond what the msm says. I know the true horrors of the state of technology and its ugly and sad. for someone whonloves tech and as been dissapointed for 15 or so years bitcoin space is a fucking revalation! The excellerated growth that will come from this will make the industrial revolution look like childs play!

It's still not gone, Low API like Mantle and (maybe DX12)  is still far from the level of optimization consoles has, They are designed for game first and for most, in the other hand PC are PC to begin with.

A 450£ will be better in some cases than a PS4 while it will not in other the thing is the PS4 will have a more consistent experience and it will not "crush" as you claim also 450£ is way more than the PS4 price.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Hazir on April 14, 2014, 11:57:02 PM
if I need to choose  - xbox1 or ps4 I will take ps4 but PC beats them all. Just saying.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: randomlove on April 15, 2014, 12:12:30 AM
PC, who the fuck bothers with consoles except 7-12 year olds? Build a way better PC these days for the price of them monstrosities!

I don't think games like "The last of us" or "God of war" are a 7 yo games You can build a PC at the same price, that will be close in terms of performance (a 400$/€ PC won't perform better than a PS4) but the thing about consoles is exclusives, and if I were to buy a console it would be the PS4 as it can play games at full 1080p and with decent frame rates unlike the XBOne.

I'm a PC guy and I didn't own a console in almost a decade now, but that being said I still believe there is a market for consoles due to exclusives and game library.

With low level api that advantage consoles had over general purpose PCs is gone! So yes, I'm sorrybto say a £450 PC will crush a console. This I did say in my last... More lengthy post which you must have skipped. As I love tech and have done for decades I actually look beyhond what the msm says. I know the true horrors of the state of technology and its ugly and sad. for someone whonloves tech and as been dissapointed for 15 or so years bitcoin space is a fucking revalation! The excellerated growth that will come from this will make the industrial revolution look like childs play!

It's still not gone, Low API like Mantle and (maybe DX12)  is still far from the level of optimization consoles has, They are designed for game first and for most, in the other hand PC are PC to begin with.

A 450£ will be better in some cases than a PS4 while it will not in other the thing is the PS4 will have a more consistent experience and it will not "crush" as you claim also 450£ is way more than the PS4 price.

I can make a 450 system around a r9 280x easy. Absolutely abliterate the ps4. No bells or whistles but I can do it. 20 years in the industry though, should know my stuff.

I've had the unfortunate displeasure of using a xbone 1 and its shocking. So called killer title titan fall looks very little better than 360 titles. And compared to ps4 its a joke. At least ps4 made a gaming console! MS just needs die already! There just copyright IP trolls these days.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: koshgel on April 15, 2014, 02:47:25 AM
Honestly, I think it will come down to the exclusives and what games you would like.

Right now Titanfall on Xbox One is sick nasty


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: kuroman on April 15, 2014, 08:53:15 AM
PC, who the fuck bothers with consoles except 7-12 year olds? Build a way better PC these days for the price of them monstrosities!

I don't think games like "The last of us" or "God of war" are a 7 yo games You can build a PC at the same price, that will be close in terms of performance (a 400$/€ PC won't perform better than a PS4) but the thing about consoles is exclusives, and if I were to buy a console it would be the PS4 as it can play games at full 1080p and with decent frame rates unlike the XBOne.

I'm a PC guy and I didn't own a console in almost a decade now, but that being said I still believe there is a market for consoles due to exclusives and game library.

With low level api that advantage consoles had over general purpose PCs is gone! So yes, I'm sorrybto say a £450 PC will crush a console. This I did say in my last... More lengthy post which you must have skipped. As I love tech and have done for decades I actually look beyhond what the msm says. I know the true horrors of the state of technology and its ugly and sad. for someone whonloves tech and as been dissapointed for 15 or so years bitcoin space is a fucking revalation! The excellerated growth that will come from this will make the industrial revolution look like childs play!

It's still not gone, Low API like Mantle and (maybe DX12)  is still far from the level of optimization consoles has, They are designed for game first and for most, in the other hand PC are PC to begin with.

A 450£ will be better in some cases than a PS4 while it will not in other the thing is the PS4 will have a more consistent experience and it will not "crush" as you claim also 450£ is way more than the PS4 price.

I can make a 450 system around a r9 280x easy. Absolutely abliterate the ps4. No bells or whistles but I can do it. 20 years in the industry though, should know my stuff.

I've had the unfortunate displeasure of using a xbone 1 and its shocking. So called killer title titan fall looks very little better than 360 titles. And compared to ps4 its a joke. At least ps4 made a gaming console! MS just needs die already! There just copyright IP trolls these days.

Ok I want to see you building a system at the same price as the PS4 with the same IOs (bluray reader and what's not) based on the 280x of course all components has to be new from trusted shops with warranties and not brought from black markets you have 400€/$ 350£ go ahead.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Sindelar1938 on April 15, 2014, 08:55:31 AM
PS 4 any day...


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Reuben on April 15, 2014, 09:02:25 AM
I own both and have no preference.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: randomlove on April 15, 2014, 10:40:16 AM
PC, who the fuck bothers with consoles except 7-12 year olds? Build a way better PC these days for the price of them monstrosities!

I don't think games like "The last of us" or "God of war" are a 7 yo games You can build a PC at the same price, that will be close in terms of performance (a 400$/€ PC won't perform better than a PS4) but the thing about consoles is exclusives, and if I were to buy a console it would be the PS4 as it can play games at full 1080p and with decent frame rates unlike the XBOne.

I'm a PC guy and I didn't own a console in almost a decade now, but that being said I still believe there is a market for consoles due to exclusives and game library.

With low level api that advantage consoles had over general purpose PCs is gone! So yes, I'm sorrybto say a £450 PC will crush a console. This I did say in my last... More lengthy post which you must have skipped. As I love tech and have done for decades I actually look beyhond what the msm says. I know the true horrors of the state of technology and its ugly and sad. for someone whonloves tech and as been dissapointed for 15 or so years bitcoin space is a fucking revalation! The excellerated growth that will come from this will make the industrial revolution look like childs play!

It's still not gone, Low API like Mantle and (maybe DX12)  is still far from the level of optimization consoles has, They are designed for game first and for most, in the other hand PC are PC to begin with.

A 450£ will be better in some cases than a PS4 while it will not in other the thing is the PS4 will have a more consistent experience and it will not "crush" as you claim also 450£ is way more than the PS4 price.

I can make a 450 system around a r9 280x easy. Absolutely abliterate the ps4. No bells or whistles but I can do it. 20 years in the industry though, should know my stuff.

I've had the unfortunate displeasure of using a xbone 1 and its shocking. So called killer title titan fall looks very little better than 360 titles. And compared to ps4 its a joke. At least ps4 made a gaming console! MS just needs die already! There just copyright IP trolls these days.

Ok I want to see you building a system at the same price as the PS4 with the same IOs (bluray reader and what's not) based on the 280x of course all components has to be new from trusted shops with warranties and not brought from black markets you have 400€/$ 350£ go ahead.

First, What idiot buys blu-rays in this day and age? The idiots that fell for 3D, that who! I have never put a cd/dvd drive in a computer for over a decade now! Jesus! I said 450 meaning ££££££ which is the price of the xbone1 not the PS4 which i did say would be the one i would chose if forced to choice a console (PS4). So please allow me the £450 and i will see what i can do....

FIRST ATTEMPT no seeing where i can save a bit here & there - Overclockers.oc.uk (£521 inc tax)

Powercolor Radeon R9 280X TurboDUO 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card                                      £221.99

AMD Piledriver FX-6 Six Core 6300 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail                      £79.99

MSI 970A-G46 AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard                                                               £57.95

Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX24C11T3K2/8X)                   £45.95

Toshiba (7K1000.D) 500GB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA050)  HDD                                      £35.99

EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply (100-W1-0500-KR)   EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply (100-W1-0500-KR)      £35.99

BitFenix Comrade Midi-Tower - White   BitFenix Comrade Midi-Tower - White                                               £29.99

                                                                                                                                         total         £423.20

                                                                                                                                          tax          £86.99

                                                                                                                                           G.TOTAL £521.94

With a little digging, Finding parts cheaper at different places you can easily get this down to £450. Hell, i don't use cases or pay tax so i'm well within my budget and nearly done it for £350 if you take them away! I said 280X a bit rashly but i stand by my point of it can be done with £450 INCLUDING tax, Im just not going waste my time working it out for you as i got much more productive stuff do with my time. If you want better other components remove the 280X for a 270X which is more than capable of smashing any game in still today and a Kaveri chip in and you will still be under £450 and have the extra ooomph from the kaveri APU graphics which work really well in Xfire tbh with 2133hz+ memory. Anything below that really hurts the APU's performance. Also notice i didnt use shitty parts like Swift power etc etc!

Peace


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: JPSelzer on April 15, 2014, 11:36:59 AM
Definitely PS4 - Xbox one haz no gamezz :D


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: kuroman on April 15, 2014, 01:49:07 PM
PC, who the fuck bothers with consoles except 7-12 year olds? Build a way better PC these days for the price of them monstrosities!

I don't think games like "The last of us" or "God of war" are a 7 yo games You can build a PC at the same price, that will be close in terms of performance (a 400$/€ PC won't perform better than a PS4) but the thing about consoles is exclusives, and if I were to buy a console it would be the PS4 as it can play games at full 1080p and with decent frame rates unlike the XBOne.

I'm a PC guy and I didn't own a console in almost a decade now, but that being said I still believe there is a market for consoles due to exclusives and game library.

With low level api that advantage consoles had over general purpose PCs is gone! So yes, I'm sorrybto say a £450 PC will crush a console. This I did say in my last... More lengthy post which you must have skipped. As I love tech and have done for decades I actually look beyhond what the msm says. I know the true horrors of the state of technology and its ugly and sad. for someone whonloves tech and as been dissapointed for 15 or so years bitcoin space is a fucking revalation! The excellerated growth that will come from this will make the industrial revolution look like childs play!

It's still not gone, Low API like Mantle and (maybe DX12)  is still far from the level of optimization consoles has, They are designed for game first and for most, in the other hand PC are PC to begin with.

A 450£ will be better in some cases than a PS4 while it will not in other the thing is the PS4 will have a more consistent experience and it will not "crush" as you claim also 450£ is way more than the PS4 price.

I can make a 450 system around a r9 280x easy. Absolutely abliterate the ps4. No bells or whistles but I can do it. 20 years in the industry though, should know my stuff.

I've had the unfortunate displeasure of using a xbone 1 and its shocking. So called killer title titan fall looks very little better than 360 titles. And compared to ps4 its a joke. At least ps4 made a gaming console! MS just needs die already! There just copyright IP trolls these days.

Ok I want to see you building a system at the same price as the PS4 with the same IOs (bluray reader and what's not) based on the 280x of course all components has to be new from trusted shops with warranties and not brought from black markets you have 400€/$ 350£ go ahead.

First, What idiot buys blu-rays in this day and age? The idiots that fell for 3D, that who! I have never put a cd/dvd drive in a computer for over a decade now! Jesus! I said 450 meaning ££££££ which is the price of the xbone1 not the PS4 which i did say would be the one i would chose if forced to choice a console (PS4). So please allow me the £450 and i will see what i can do....

FIRST ATTEMPT no seeing where i can save a bit here & there - Overclockers.oc.uk (£521 inc tax)

Powercolor Radeon R9 280X TurboDUO 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card                                      £221.99

AMD Piledriver FX-6 Six Core 6300 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail                      £79.99

MSI 970A-G46 AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard                                                               £57.95

Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX24C11T3K2/8X)                   £45.95

Toshiba (7K1000.D) 500GB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA050)  HDD                                      £35.99

EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply (100-W1-0500-KR)   EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply (100-W1-0500-KR)      £35.99

BitFenix Comrade Midi-Tower - White   BitFenix Comrade Midi-Tower - White                                               £29.99

                                                                                                                                         total         £423.20

                                                                                                                                          tax          £86.99

                                                                                                                                           G.TOTAL £521.94

With a little digging, Finding parts cheaper at different places you can easily get this down to £450. Hell, i don't use cases or pay tax so i'm well within my budget and nearly done it for £350 if you take them away! I said 280X a bit rashly but i stand by my point of it can be done with £450 INCLUDING tax, Im just not going waste my time working it out for you as i got much more productive stuff do with my time. If you want better other components remove the 280X for a 270X which is more than capable of smashing any game in still today and a Kaveri chip in and you will still be under £450 and have the extra ooomph from the kaveri APU graphics which work really well in Xfire tbh with 2133hz+ memory. Anything below that really hurts the APU's performance. Also notice i didnt use shitty parts like Swift power etc etc!

Peace


Not even close :
1-No windows copy included (if it is a gaming PC you are forced to use windows
2-No drives, (yes there are people like me who still buys Games in boxes and collector editions whenever I can) at least I own the copy of the game and can resell it or exchange it later on
3-You talk about your case as it is the general case of everyone, you don't pay tax ? good for you, so you can buy the PS4 without taxes as well in that case it does drive the price down.
4-I never talked about the XBOne, I always said PS4 and all my previous comment are there, also a console will most likely be sitting in the living room and I want to see someone putting a caseless pc in his living room under his TV, (some exception would want to do it) but I doubt anyone who want's to buy a console will consider anything like that, no to mention that he owns already a PC if he wants to buy a console and it doesn't go the other way around
5-Yup APU needs high speed memory that's way the PS4 is using very expensive unified 8GB GDDR5 memory

Of course you won't waste time working it out for me, not only you blow your own 450£ while lacking some important things, your 520£ is more 50% more expensive than the price of a PS4.
Also you are forgetting the whole point of consoles = Exclusives, the guy owns a pc for sure (who doesn't in this day and age) and wants a console for multimedia, and games and consoles has a larger library and games genre ( Coming from a PC gamer)


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: kuroman on April 15, 2014, 01:50:00 PM
Honestly, I think it will come down to the exclusives and what games you would like.

Right now Titanfall on Xbox One is sick nasty

Titanfall PC > XBOne :)


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Kiki112 on April 15, 2014, 02:18:15 PM
the same dilemma Sheldon had in the last episode of the big bang theory :D


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: randomlove on April 15, 2014, 02:22:21 PM
PC, who the fuck bothers with consoles except 7-12 year olds? Build a way better PC these days for the price of them monstrosities!

I don't think games like "The last of us" or "God of war" are a 7 yo games You can build a PC at the same price, that will be close in terms of performance (a 400$/€ PC won't perform better than a PS4) but the thing about consoles is exclusives, and if I were to buy a console it would be the PS4 as it can play games at full 1080p and with decent frame rates unlike the XBOne.

I'm a PC guy and I didn't own a console in almost a decade now, but that being said I still believe there is a market for consoles due to exclusives and game library.

With low level api that advantage consoles had over general purpose PCs is gone! So yes, I'm sorrybto say a £450 PC will crush a console. This I did say in my last... More lengthy post which you must have skipped. As I love tech and have done for decades I actually look beyhond what the msm says. I know the true horrors of the state of technology and its ugly and sad. for someone whonloves tech and as been dissapointed for 15 or so years bitcoin space is a fucking revalation! The excellerated growth that will come from this will make the industrial revolution look like childs play!

It's still not gone, Low API like Mantle and (maybe DX12)  is still far from the level of optimization consoles has, They are designed for game first and for most, in the other hand PC are PC to begin with.

A 450£ will be better in some cases than a PS4 while it will not in other the thing is the PS4 will have a more consistent experience and it will not "crush" as you claim also 450£ is way more than the PS4 price.

I can make a 450 system around a r9 280x easy. Absolutely abliterate the ps4. No bells or whistles but I can do it. 20 years in the industry though, should know my stuff.

I've had the unfortunate displeasure of using a xbone 1 and its shocking. So called killer title titan fall looks very little better than 360 titles. And compared to ps4 its a joke. At least ps4 made a gaming console! MS just needs die already! There just copyright IP trolls these days.

Ok I want to see you building a system at the same price as the PS4 with the same IOs (bluray reader and what's not) based on the 280x of course all components has to be new from trusted shops with warranties and not brought from black markets you have 400€/$ 350£ go ahead.

First, What idiot buys blu-rays in this day and age? The idiots that fell for 3D, that who! I have never put a cd/dvd drive in a computer for over a decade now! Jesus! I said 450 meaning ££££££ which is the price of the xbone1 not the PS4 which i did say would be the one i would chose if forced to choice a console (PS4). So please allow me the £450 and i will see what i can do....

FIRST ATTEMPT no seeing where i can save a bit here & there - Overclockers.oc.uk (£521 inc tax)

Powercolor Radeon R9 280X TurboDUO 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card                                      £221.99

AMD Piledriver FX-6 Six Core 6300 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail                      £79.99

MSI 970A-G46 AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard                                                               £57.95

Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX24C11T3K2/8X)                   £45.95

Toshiba (7K1000.D) 500GB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA050)  HDD                                      £35.99

EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply (100-W1-0500-KR)   EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply (100-W1-0500-KR)      £35.99

BitFenix Comrade Midi-Tower - White   BitFenix Comrade Midi-Tower - White                                               £29.99

                                                                                                                                         total         £423.20

                                                                                                                                          tax          £86.99

                                                                                                                                           G.TOTAL £521.94

With a little digging, Finding parts cheaper at different places you can easily get this down to £450. Hell, i don't use cases or pay tax so i'm well within my budget and nearly done it for £350 if you take them away! I said 280X a bit rashly but i stand by my point of it can be done with £450 INCLUDING tax, Im just not going waste my time working it out for you as i got much more productive stuff do with my time. If you want better other components remove the 280X for a 270X which is more than capable of smashing any game in still today and a Kaveri chip in and you will still be under £450 and have the extra ooomph from the kaveri APU graphics which work really well in Xfire tbh with 2133hz+ memory. Anything below that really hurts the APU's performance. Also notice i didnt use shitty parts like Swift power etc etc!

Peace


Not even close :
1-No windows copy included (if it is a gaming PC you are forced to use windows
2-No drives, (yes there are people like me who still buys Games in boxes and collector editions whenever I can) at least I own the copy of the game and can resell it or exchange it later on
3-You talk about your case as it is the general case of everyone, you don't pay tax ? good for you, so you can buy the PS4 without taxes as well in that case it does drive the price down.
4-I never talked about the XBOne, I always said PS4 and all my previous comment are there, also a console will most likely be sitting in the living room and I want to see someone putting a caseless pc in his living room under his TV, (some exception would want to do it) but I doubt anyone who want's to buy a console will consider anything like that, no to mention that he owns already a PC if he wants to buy a console and it doesn't go the other way around
5-Yup APU needs high speed memory that's way the PS4 is using very expensive unified 8GB GDDR5 memory

Of course you won't waste time working it out for me, not only you blow your own 450£ while lacking some important things, your 520£ is more 50% more expensive than the price of a PS4.
Also you are forgetting the whole point of consoles = Exclusives, the guy owns a pc for sure (who doesn't in this day and age) and wants a console for multimedia, and games and consoles has a larger library and games genre ( Coming from a PC gamer)

1. No, You dont need windows to play games and i dont support eugenicists (M$), And most people have a copy of windows already!
2. £5-£10 for a dvd drive then if you must!
3. I don't believe anyone should pay TAX as its theft, plain and simple. I avoid it at every step i possibly can
4. I DID! I said 450£ which is obviously the xbone and not the ps4 @ 350!
5. And?

as i said, Use a 270X and there you go, go buy yourself all the crud you want and its still under £450 and will play ANYTHING better than the PS4 (Quality wise)

Go pack your bags dude, I been building PC's for 25 years + and know whats possible.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: gagalady on April 15, 2014, 02:27:33 PM
For gaming i suggest PS4. Also Xbox controller is kind of fat and PS4 is more comfortable to hold in my opinion.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: jparsley on April 15, 2014, 02:31:37 PM
I think those game consoles are a lot stronger than highend pcs.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Natium on April 15, 2014, 02:57:48 PM
P4 defo!


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: kuroman on April 15, 2014, 03:38:27 PM
PC, who the fuck bothers with consoles except 7-12 year olds? Build a way better PC these days for the price of them monstrosities!

I don't think games like "The last of us" or "God of war" are a 7 yo games You can build a PC at the same price, that will be close in terms of performance (a 400$/€ PC won't perform better than a PS4) but the thing about consoles is exclusives, and if I were to buy a console it would be the PS4 as it can play games at full 1080p and with decent frame rates unlike the XBOne.

I'm a PC guy and I didn't own a console in almost a decade now, but that being said I still believe there is a market for consoles due to exclusives and game library.

With low level api that advantage consoles had over general purpose PCs is gone! So yes, I'm sorrybto say a £450 PC will crush a console. This I did say in my last... More lengthy post which you must have skipped. As I love tech and have done for decades I actually look beyhond what the msm says. I know the true horrors of the state of technology and its ugly and sad. for someone whonloves tech and as been dissapointed for 15 or so years bitcoin space is a fucking revalation! The excellerated growth that will come from this will make the industrial revolution look like childs play!

It's still not gone, Low API like Mantle and (maybe DX12)  is still far from the level of optimization consoles has, They are designed for game first and for most, in the other hand PC are PC to begin with.

A 450£ will be better in some cases than a PS4 while it will not in other the thing is the PS4 will have a more consistent experience and it will not "crush" as you claim also 450£ is way more than the PS4 price.

I can make a 450 system around a r9 280x easy. Absolutely abliterate the ps4. No bells or whistles but I can do it. 20 years in the industry though, should know my stuff.

I've had the unfortunate displeasure of using a xbone 1 and its shocking. So called killer title titan fall looks very little better than 360 titles. And compared to ps4 its a joke. At least ps4 made a gaming console! MS just needs die already! There just copyright IP trolls these days.

Ok I want to see you building a system at the same price as the PS4 with the same IOs (bluray reader and what's not) based on the 280x of course all components has to be new from trusted shops with warranties and not brought from black markets you have 400€/$ 350£ go ahead.

First, What idiot buys blu-rays in this day and age? The idiots that fell for 3D, that who! I have never put a cd/dvd drive in a computer for over a decade now! Jesus! I said 450 meaning ££££££ which is the price of the xbone1 not the PS4 which i did say would be the one i would chose if forced to choice a console (PS4). So please allow me the £450 and i will see what i can do....

FIRST ATTEMPT no seeing where i can save a bit here & there - Overclockers.oc.uk (£521 inc tax)

Powercolor Radeon R9 280X TurboDUO 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card                                      £221.99

AMD Piledriver FX-6 Six Core 6300 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail                      £79.99

MSI 970A-G46 AMD 970A (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard                                                               £57.95

Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2x4GB) PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (KHX24C11T3K2/8X)                   £45.95

Toshiba (7K1000.D) 500GB SATA 6GB/s 32MB Cache - OEM (DT01ACA050)  HDD                                      £35.99

EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply (100-W1-0500-KR)   EVGA 500W 80 Plus Power Supply (100-W1-0500-KR)      £35.99

BitFenix Comrade Midi-Tower - White   BitFenix Comrade Midi-Tower - White                                               £29.99

                                                                                                                                         total         £423.20

                                                                                                                                          tax          £86.99

                                                                                                                                           G.TOTAL £521.94

With a little digging, Finding parts cheaper at different places you can easily get this down to £450. Hell, i don't use cases or pay tax so i'm well within my budget and nearly done it for £350 if you take them away! I said 280X a bit rashly but i stand by my point of it can be done with £450 INCLUDING tax, Im just not going waste my time working it out for you as i got much more productive stuff do with my time. If you want better other components remove the 280X for a 270X which is more than capable of smashing any game in still today and a Kaveri chip in and you will still be under £450 and have the extra ooomph from the kaveri APU graphics which work really well in Xfire tbh with 2133hz+ memory. Anything below that really hurts the APU's performance. Also notice i didnt use shitty parts like Swift power etc etc!

Peace


Not even close :
1-No windows copy included (if it is a gaming PC you are forced to use windows
2-No drives, (yes there are people like me who still buys Games in boxes and collector editions whenever I can) at least I own the copy of the game and can resell it or exchange it later on
3-You talk about your case as it is the general case of everyone, you don't pay tax ? good for you, so you can buy the PS4 without taxes as well in that case it does drive the price down.
4-I never talked about the XBOne, I always said PS4 and all my previous comment are there, also a console will most likely be sitting in the living room and I want to see someone putting a caseless pc in his living room under his TV, (some exception would want to do it) but I doubt anyone who want's to buy a console will consider anything like that, no to mention that he owns already a PC if he wants to buy a console and it doesn't go the other way around
5-Yup APU needs high speed memory that's way the PS4 is using very expensive unified 8GB GDDR5 memory

Of course you won't waste time working it out for me, not only you blow your own 450£ while lacking some important things, your 520£ is more 50% more expensive than the price of a PS4.
Also you are forgetting the whole point of consoles = Exclusives, the guy owns a pc for sure (who doesn't in this day and age) and wants a console for multimedia, and games and consoles has a larger library and games genre ( Coming from a PC gamer)

1. No, You dont need windows to play games and i dont support eugenicists (M$), And most people have a copy of windows already!
2. £5-£10 for a dvd drive then if you must!
3. I don't believe anyone should pay TAX as its theft, plain and simple. I avoid it at every step i possibly can
4. I DID! I said 450£ which is obviously the xbone and not the ps4 @ 350!
5. And?

as i said, Use a 270X and there you go, go buy yourself all the crud you want and its still under £450 and will play ANYTHING better than the PS4 (Quality wise)

Go pack your bags dude, I been building PC's for 25 years + and know whats possible.

1- This alone proves how wrong you are, MOST of PC games are Windows exclusive, Steam is starting to take steps towards linux based OS but games developers are NOT! And no not most of people owns a copy of windows (that they can install on whatever machine), since most people buys their PC, laptops with windows included with the machine (a copy bound to the device that you need to burn on Restoration disks, I mean seriously for someone that's been building PC for 25 years + and been on this domaine you should know this much at least) and if you say otherwise I invite you to prove it.

2-Yes I know it's dirt cheap and even a bluray reader cost no more 30 of your £ but that's not even the point, if you want to make a proper comparison you do it considering what you have on both sides, some brought PS3s and PS4 just for the bluray player to watch movies with the option to game of course

3-Your average joe has no choice but to buy with taxes as VAT unless they have a professional card, but that again goes both way if you want to buy you parts without VAT you can buy the console of your choice without Tax as well so this is not even an argument

4-And I never claimed the XBOne as a good console choice, I've already said that the PS4 is a good value for money compared to the XBOne which is underpowered yet more expensive than the PS4 (well yeah it includes kinect but again I prefer having the choice to buy that later if I'm interested than being forced to live with such a thing)

5-and lol switching from a 280x to a 270x is going to save you around 70£ at most that's not even the price of windows 8 copy from a store and a 270x + an FX6300 will not destroy a PS4 they'll have comparable graphics the PC might have better frame rates in same game (low profile game as the PS4 frame rates is locked to 60 or 30 in general)  but will suffer in games, it's here where console optimization comes in hand. and the console will last for 10 years a PC does not, you'll need to upgrade soon enough especially if it is a mid range PC, and another thing you are forgetting is that both consoles will rely on CLOUD COMPUTING to achieve better performance and better games overall especially when it comes to exclusives (this is one of the reasons, that Sony and MS decided to go for a cheap architecture rather than having going for a very expensive console that outperform current PCs in the short run and selling them at lost (for example the PS3 cost almost double of what Sony was selling it for at the time and it was ridiculously expensive at launch but it did outperform any PC at it price range and for a while)

There is not to back here dude, Not only you can't build a PC better than the PS4 at the same price (something you didn't even attempt to prove so far) you are still denying the whole point of a console, which is exclusive games ! the guy already owns a mid range PC (like the one you want him to build) if not a high end


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: randomlove on April 15, 2014, 09:31:01 PM
Jesus dude, I did that in 5 minutes. If i spent 30 mins to an hour i would do what i said, BEAT ALL CONSOLES WITH £450! I never said i would beat the PS4 price/performance bracket. I absolutely DESTROYED the xbone with a 270X, never mind the 280X system.

And if you bothered to read i recommended a PS4 as well but said get a PC instead. I never noticed he had a PC already, WHy not just buy a 280X, sling it in your comp and pocket the £200+ change? Obviously he doesn't need ANOTHER copy of windows either! See how you put your foot in your own hole there? Your a smuck to buy DVD's and even more of a smuck to buy blu-ray and you deserve what you get for supporting these oligarch companies and copyright/IP trolls. 3D printers will soon change all that bullshit!

Im not arguing with you, It was a throw away comment to begin with but IT IS POSSIBLE! not matter what you think. And in the US it would be even cheaper! But so is the xbone so its all relative. The comment was aimed at the joke that is the xbone, not the PS4 especially, thats is at a good price point but as i said originally. Low level API's will make enough of a difference to change this.

I'm a PC gamer and console pads suck dick! I would never give up keyboard/mouse/keypad for anything.

TBH though, i really don't give a flying fuck what you think haha


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: sandk on April 15, 2014, 09:51:56 PM
They are both excellent choices. You should decide based on
- the systems exclusive titles
- system adoption in your narrow circle of friends (the more friends you can play with the more fun you will have

just my 2c..


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: randomlove on April 15, 2014, 10:12:36 PM
What happens when M$ and SOny go bump in the next few years? They both been losing money for over a decade now and are literally alive by been patent trolls (in the case of M$) and are losing marketshare in every one of the markets they are in. With decentralization big oligarch companies like these will die on the side road as its just unfeasable to operate such HUGE companies in the real world. Its only because of the cabals they get to sit where they do with no opposition. I know this is of topic but there nothing more relivent in this day and age than what i speak of.

I mean, Who pays for the servers once these companies FINALLY die? And before you say they wont, NOTHING LAST FOREVER!!! NOTHING!!!


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: kuroman on April 15, 2014, 10:19:40 PM
Jesus dude, I did that in 5 minutes. If i spent 30 mins to an hour i would do what i said, BEAT ALL CONSOLES WITH £450! I never said i would beat the PS4 price/performance bracket. I absolutely DESTROYED the xbone with a 270X, never mind the 280X system.

And if you bothered to read i recommended a PS4 as well but said get a PC instead. I never noticed he had a PC already, WHy not just buy a 280X, sling it in your comp and pocket the £200+ change? Obviously he doesn't need ANOTHER copy of windows either! See how you put your foot in your own hole there? Your a smuck to buy DVD's and even more of a smuck to buy blu-ray and you deserve what you get for supporting these oligarch companies and copyright/IP trolls. 3D printers will soon change all that bullshit!

Im not arguing with you, It was a throw away comment to begin with but IT IS POSSIBLE! not matter what you think. And in the US it would be even cheaper! But so is the xbone so its all relative. The comment was aimed at the joke that is the xbone, not the PS4 especially, thats is at a good price point but as i said originally. Low level API's will make enough of a difference to change this.

I'm a PC gamer and console pads suck dick! I would never give up keyboard/mouse/keypad for anything.

TBH though, i really don't give a flying fuck what you think haha

Because he wants to play Console exclusives that does not exist in PC, I don't know what don't you get there
I'm a PC Gamer and right now the only games I play cannot be played on a console. but that again doesn't mean I'll discredit console as long as they have huge libraries of exclusive they'll remain relevant to a larger public than PC gaming.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: counter on April 15, 2014, 10:30:54 PM
I don't think it is fair that I suggest which you should have because I haven't played enough PS4.  I guess it depends on the person and what they are really looking for from the system as a whole.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: randomlove on April 15, 2014, 10:42:23 PM
Jesus dude, I did that in 5 minutes. If i spent 30 mins to an hour i would do what i said, BEAT ALL CONSOLES WITH £450! I never said i would beat the PS4 price/performance bracket. I absolutely DESTROYED the xbone with a 270X, never mind the 280X system.

And if you bothered to read i recommended a PS4 as well but said get a PC instead. I never noticed he had a PC already, WHy not just buy a 280X, sling it in your comp and pocket the £200+ change? Obviously he doesn't need ANOTHER copy of windows either! See how you put your foot in your own hole there? Your a smuck to buy DVD's and even more of a smuck to buy blu-ray and you deserve what you get for supporting these oligarch companies and copyright/IP trolls. 3D printers will soon change all that bullshit!

Im not arguing with you, It was a throw away comment to begin with but IT IS POSSIBLE! not matter what you think. And in the US it would be even cheaper! But so is the xbone so its all relative. The comment was aimed at the joke that is the xbone, not the PS4 especially, thats is at a good price point but as i said originally. Low level API's will make enough of a difference to change this.

I'm a PC gamer and console pads suck dick! I would never give up keyboard/mouse/keypad for anything.

TBH though, i really don't give a flying fuck what you think haha

Because he wants to play Console exclusives that does not exist in PC, I don't know what don't you get there
I'm a PC Gamer and right now the only games I play cannot be played on a console. but that again doesn't mean I'll discredit console as long as they have huge libraries of exclusive they'll remain relevant to a larger public than PC gaming.

I think we can finally agree..... I didnt know they even had any exclusive titles left tbh, They come out on PC in the end don't they these days? At least the ones worth any salt? I think PS4 as some but M$ don't do they?


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: kuroman on April 15, 2014, 11:13:17 PM
Jesus dude, I did that in 5 minutes. If i spent 30 mins to an hour i would do what i said, BEAT ALL CONSOLES WITH £450! I never said i would beat the PS4 price/performance bracket. I absolutely DESTROYED the xbone with a 270X, never mind the 280X system.

And if you bothered to read i recommended a PS4 as well but said get a PC instead. I never noticed he had a PC already, WHy not just buy a 280X, sling it in your comp and pocket the £200+ change? Obviously he doesn't need ANOTHER copy of windows either! See how you put your foot in your own hole there? Your a smuck to buy DVD's and even more of a smuck to buy blu-ray and you deserve what you get for supporting these oligarch companies and copyright/IP trolls. 3D printers will soon change all that bullshit!

Im not arguing with you, It was a throw away comment to begin with but IT IS POSSIBLE! not matter what you think. And in the US it would be even cheaper! But so is the xbone so its all relative. The comment was aimed at the joke that is the xbone, not the PS4 especially, thats is at a good price point but as i said originally. Low level API's will make enough of a difference to change this.

I'm a PC gamer and console pads suck dick! I would never give up keyboard/mouse/keypad for anything.

TBH though, i really don't give a flying fuck what you think haha

Because he wants to play Console exclusives that does not exist in PC, I don't know what don't you get there
I'm a PC Gamer and right now the only games I play cannot be played on a console. but that again doesn't mean I'll discredit console as long as they have huge libraries of exclusive they'll remain relevant to a larger public than PC gaming.

I think we can finally agree..... I didnt know they even had any exclusive titles left tbh, They come out on PC in the end don't they these days? At least the ones worth any salt? I think PS4 as some but M$ don't do they?

both of them do, but Sony seems to have more exclusive, while MS exclusives are shared with PC (some still 100% exclusives) best games of recent years, like The Last of Us are PS4 exclusives


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: ibakgs on May 21, 2014, 08:12:28 AM
ps4 . some games look better on PS4


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Hazir on May 21, 2014, 08:28:06 AM
ps4 . some games look better on PS4

You realise that is their marketing bullshit? There is no huge difference between xbox one and PS4. Sure PS4 is faster but not that faster to actually see difference in graphics sure you will see some minor differences if you are a cyborg or sitting in front of your monitor with magnifier.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: AnimeBoy_007 on May 21, 2014, 09:52:39 AM
Simply get a PS4. It has more games than XBOX One. And the Console is worth for the price. :P


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: scryptasicminer on May 21, 2014, 01:41:00 PM

Final fantasy series can only be played on ps4.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: kuroman on May 21, 2014, 01:57:12 PM

Final fantasy series can only be played on ps4.
that's not true, it was true at some point (from FF VII to FFXII but FFXIII for example came out on XB360 before PS3(the ps3 version was better at his uncompressed scenes on bluray quality while the xb360 required 25144512145 disks


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: drporschef on May 21, 2014, 03:29:14 PM
By now since majority have said PS4, you`ll go with the best system right?

Not some xbox crap  ;)


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: androz on May 21, 2014, 03:38:28 PM
the same dilemma Sheldon had in the last episode of the big bang theory :D

yeh Kiki112, i posted the link a couple of days ago but was accidentally removed by moderator.

bizcoinz must see it  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwCiVQ9IqIc


http://www.techtimes.com/articles/5224/20140406/bazinga-xbox-one-vs-ps4-sheldon-cooper-decides.htm




Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Richard213 on May 22, 2014, 09:32:52 AM
i will choose playstation 4  ;D


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: asimoshe on May 27, 2014, 03:10:13 PM
I decided to stay with my xbox 360 for now.. in the future i will by the PS4


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: mezmerizer9 on May 27, 2014, 04:11:02 PM
Help me decide guys

Why do you even ask? get playstation and own everything. But I would go with PS4, but I don't care about graphics and that's the biggest problem today. It is not all about graphics, people.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: DolanDuck on May 27, 2014, 05:53:51 PM
The PS4 and Xbox One specs have similar AMD architecture at their core, but contrast like apples and oranges when it comes to memory. Only developers can determine how this battle is won.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: coinsandcoins on July 21, 2014, 12:38:17 AM
Easy choice

Neither.

PC RULES


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: jets567 on July 21, 2014, 12:58:59 AM
xbox one

Two reasons and two reasons only

Halo and Gears of War  :)


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Meowington on July 25, 2014, 05:15:46 PM
Easy choice

Neither.

PC RULES

I though i was the only one in this thread :)


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: minerpumpkin on July 25, 2014, 05:18:58 PM
Help me decide guys

Ha, isn't there a South Park episode about this? Well it doesn't matter, since both Sony and Microsoft just want the media frenzy :)
Apart from that I have no idea. Haven't owned a PlayStation since the PSX back in 1997...


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on July 25, 2014, 06:31:47 PM
I prefer PS4 since it has better performance and better exclusive games. As stated before, Xbone also has some good exclusives coming up like Halo.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Anastasio on July 26, 2014, 07:48:41 AM
I bought an XBox one the day it came out. For 6 months now, it has been exclusively a netflix machine. Learned I like to play CS and DOTA still. Why do I always assume these consoles are going to be worth the money when I am still more than happy with the games I can play on my computer?


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: Anastasio on July 26, 2014, 07:54:47 AM
Easy choice

Neither.

PC RULES

I though i was the only one in this thread :)


PC > All

Like I said above, I got an XBox One thinking that it would be worth it. For some dumbass reason, my brain justified it. I was so pissed after a couple weeks of playing Battlefield. There is not one thing about my XBox that I prefer over my computer. Well, I guess I can't say, "Xbox Pause" anymore. Sort of lame.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: btcpokerface on July 26, 2014, 09:45:24 AM
I will buy ps4 when the price will drop a bit, now it's too high for my belongings.


Title: Re: xbox one or playstation 4?
Post by: leepsteer00 on July 26, 2014, 04:21:32 PM
Well, I prefer using PC. Better graphics than both of them.