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Title: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BTCtrader71 on April 15, 2014, 04:04:20 PM

I would encourage members of this forum to email Amazon and let them know that there are lots of us who would like to be able to spend bitcoin on their site!

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/contact-us/general-questions.html



Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BTCtrader71 on April 15, 2014, 04:07:25 PM
This is what I emailed to them through the link in the OP:
Quote

Dear Jeff Bezos, Tom Taylor, and Amazon:

I am emailing to request that you at Amazon accept bitcoin as a payment method.

I read news reports [1] starting yesterday that Amazon is not currently interested in accepting bitcoin, and that part of the reasoning was that you are "not hearing from customers that it's right for them."

I am a longtime Amazon customer, and bitcoin is right for me.

I was encouraged when Gyft allowed the purchase of Amazon gift cards using bitcoin. Indeed, I think the future will prove that Gyft CEO Vinny Lingham had keen foresight when he made this decision. I may use their service at some point. My only reason not to use them is that the cards must be bought in specified incremental amounts, and I would prefer not to spend more than the exact cost of my purchase at the time.

I had never even heard of Overstock.com until news reports surfaced that they began accepting payment in bitcoin January 9, 2014. I made my first purchase from Overstock on that very day. As long as I cannot spend bitcoin directly on Amazon, I intend to continue using Overstock instead of Amazon whenever possible.

Best Regards,

(signed)

[1] For example: http://time.com/63376/amazon-bitcoin/




Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BittBurger on April 15, 2014, 04:29:43 PM
Here was my email to them.

And the idiotic response I got.

Quote

Subject:  Will you be adding?

Comments:I saw recently that Amazon decided not to accept Bitcoin as a payment option.  This is extremely disappointing.  

I am not clear how the company came to the conclusion that its users were not interested in it.  I was never asked?  I do a significant amount of buying through your site, and would have singlehandedly added thousands of dollars of revenue via Bitcoin, which I am currently giving to Overstock.com instead (because they accept Bitcoin).  

I believe this was a bad decision on the part of your executives.  I hope there are upper level people you can forward this to so that feedback from your end users can actually be evaluated, instead of assumed.


Response:

Quote

Hello,

I'm sorry; Amazon.com does not comment about rumors or speculative news reports.

However, I can assure you that we have not announced any dealings with Bitcoins.

I'm really sorry if this may have caused any inconvenience.

We hope to see you again soon.

Best regards,
Kumar B.


------------------------------------------------------------

So much for getting my email escalated to the powers that be.  

Mister Kumar no doubt hit delete after he misread my entire email.

-B-


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: sosulon on April 15, 2014, 04:38:28 PM
I doubt Amazon will accept bitcoin lol.

Very unlikely..


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 15, 2014, 04:48:58 PM
Here was my email to them.

And the idiotic response I got.

Quote

Subject:  Will you be adding?

Comments:I saw recently that Amazon decided not to accept Bitcoin as a payment option.  This is extremely disappointing.  

I am not clear how the company came to the conclusion that its users were not interested in it.  I was never asked?  I do a significant amount of buying through your site, and would have singlehandedly added thousands of dollars of revenue via Bitcoin, which I am currently giving to Overstock.com instead (because they accept Bitcoin).  

I believe this was a bad decision on the part of your executives.  I hope there are upper level people you can forward this to so that feedback from your end users can actually be evaluated, instead of assumed.


Response:

Quote

Hello,

I'm sorry; Amazon.com does not comment about rumors or speculative news reports.

However, I can assure you that we have not announced any dealings with Bitcoins.

I'm really sorry if this may have caused any inconvenience.

We hope to see you again soon.

Best regards,
Kumar B.


------------------------------------------------------------

So much for getting my email escalated to the powers that be.  

Mister Kumar no doubt hit delete after he misread my entire email.

-B-
How is that an idiotic response? It's exactly what you'd expect from a major company that doesn't want anything to do with "drug trade currencies" like bitcoins (mainstream view).


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: Reverb on April 15, 2014, 04:49:56 PM
I doubt Amazon will accept bitcoin lol.

Very unlikely..

I agree with this. I highly doubt Amazon will accept bitcoin soon since bitcoin is very unstable at the very moment. I guess we will have to wait for further notice.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 15, 2014, 04:51:19 PM
I doubt Amazon will accept bitcoin lol.

Very unlikely..

I agree with this. I highly doubt Amazon will accept bitcoin soon since bitcoin is very unstable at the very moment. I guess we will have to wait for further notice.
Just imagine how much work they'd have to put into it, with the price rising and sinking by hundreds of dollars within weeks. Not to mention all the decimals people would have to deal with for cheaper items.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BittBurger on April 15, 2014, 05:00:45 PM
How is that an idiotic response? It's exactly what you'd expect from a major company that doesn't want anything to do with "drug trade currencies" like bitcoins (mainstream view).

I asked them *why* they decided *not* to accept Bitcoin.
His response was to "correct" me and "inform" me that they wont be accepting Bitcoin.
Which makes no sense, given what I wrote.

That's why he referenced rumors and speculative articles.
Probably assuming mine was yet another email saying "I heard Amazon will accept Bitcoin".

Idiotic because he didn't even read what I wrote.

-B-


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BTCtrader71 on April 15, 2014, 05:00:55 PM
Just imagine how much work they'd have to put into it, with the price rising and sinking by hundreds of dollars within weeks. Not to mention all the decimals people would have to deal with for cheaper items.

Overstock got it going in no time with the help of Coinbase. Coinbase can convert bitcoins immediately back into dollars, thus shielding the merchant entirely from price volatility (although many merchants opt to keep some portion of the proceeds as bitcoin as an investment).


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: xDan on April 15, 2014, 05:01:24 PM
Is the CEO and other high ups there on Twitter? That's the sort of public petitioning that might get some attention...

Though, it's unlikely it would happen yet. If it does happen, it will be after many smaller merchants have proved it and they cannot *afford* to ignore it any more...

I'm sure it will happen sometime, when every ordinary person has a Bitcoin app on their phone :)


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BTCtrader71 on April 15, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
I doubt Amazon will accept bitcoin lol.

Very unlikely..

They will. Only a matter of time.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 15, 2014, 05:10:50 PM
I doubt Amazon will accept bitcoin lol.

Very unlikely..

They will. Only a matter of time.
Only one question comes to mind.
Why? Elaborate please, why would they accept bitcoins. Do you think they're not earning enough? :)


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BittBurger on April 15, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
I doubt Amazon will accept bitcoin lol.

Very unlikely..

They will. Only a matter of time.
Only one question comes to mind.
Why? Elaborate please, why would they accept bitcoins. Do you think they're not earning enough? :)

C'mon.  Seriously..

Why ... elaborate please ... why would anyone use the internet in 1989?   Do you think they cant communicate just fine with telephones and paper mail?

Is it really so hard for them to drive to the Library and check out a book, or search volumes of encyclopedias and microfiche there, to get information on humpback whales?

-B-


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 15, 2014, 05:17:52 PM
I doubt Amazon will accept bitcoin lol.

Very unlikely..

They will. Only a matter of time.
Only one question comes to mind.
Why? Elaborate please, why would they accept bitcoins. Do you think they're not earning enough? :)

C'mon.  Seriously..

Why ... elaborate please ... why would anyone use the internet in 1989?   Do you think they cant communicate just fine with telephones and paper mail?

Is it really so hard for them to drive to the Library and check out a book, or search volumes of encyclopedias and microfiche there, to get information on humpback whales?

-B-
Just because you have one example it doesn't mean anything. There are a lot of inventions and ideas and products that have been invested greatly in that has never made it into mainstream hands.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BTCtrader71 on April 15, 2014, 05:20:51 PM
I doubt Amazon will accept bitcoin lol.

Very unlikely..

They will. Only a matter of time.
Only one question comes to mind.
Why? Elaborate please, why would they accept bitcoins. Do you think they're not earning enough? :)

Because they are losing customers to places like Overstock and TigerDirect. Only a trickle now but it will get bigger.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 15, 2014, 05:26:56 PM
I doubt Amazon will accept bitcoin lol.

Very unlikely..

They will. Only a matter of time.
Only one question comes to mind.
Why? Elaborate please, why would they accept bitcoins. Do you think they're not earning enough? :)

Because they are losing customers to places like Overstock and TigerDirect. Only a trickle now but it will get bigger.
They're still the majority. They won't care if a few customers chose another site, and as long as Bitcoin is seen as the devils currency in mainstream media, all major sites and companies will take a strong stand against it.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: serchanto on April 15, 2014, 05:32:17 PM
For those interested in shopping at Amazon with BTC or LTC, https://www.btczone.com has been offering a way for almost three years.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 15, 2014, 05:33:10 PM
For those interested in shopping at Amazon with BTC or LTC, https://www.btczone.com has been offering a way for almost three years.
I think the point is to get the website itself to accept them, to make bitcoins more valuable. All bitcoin owners can already sell their bitcoins for USD and buy it that way.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: serchanto on April 15, 2014, 05:37:17 PM
For those interested in shopping at Amazon with BTC or LTC, https://www.btczone.com has been offering a way for almost three years.
I think the point is to get the website itself to accept them, to make bitcoins more valuable. All bitcoin owners can already sell their bitcoins for USD and buy it that way.
Yeah, it would be convenient.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 15, 2014, 06:05:58 PM
For those interested in shopping at Amazon with BTC or LTC, https://www.btczone.com has been offering a way for almost three years.
I think the point is to get the website itself to accept them, to make bitcoins more valuable. All bitcoin owners can already sell their bitcoins for USD and buy it that way.
Yeah, it would be convenient.
Yeah, the point is it'd make the Bitcoin price rise due to it becoming more and more mainstream. I don't see this happening within the next 5 years, but let's keep the hopes up shall we. :)


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: justusranvier on April 15, 2014, 06:16:10 PM
Amazon is the same company that is building a smartphone with five front-facing cameras, to better image your face for the FBI's new database.

When they "their customers" don't want Bitcoin they are telling the truth - you are just gravely mistaken about who their customers actually are.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BTCtrader71 on April 15, 2014, 06:19:27 PM

Here is the response I got (boldface is mine):

Quote
Hello,

I do understand your concern that amazon should accept bit-coin.

I'd also like to inform you that we have received the same suggestion from many of our valued customers like you and our team has already considered it as a scope of improvement and working for better results.

I've forwarded your comments to our concerned departments. We have a dedicated team working relentlessly to implement the feedback back we receive.

Your comments will be carefully reviewed as we currently making our improvements. Customer feedback like yours helps us in our endeavor to improve the service we provide, and we're glad you took time to write to us.

Please contact us for any further assistance and for further questions by using the following link:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/contact-us/general-questions.html

It is always important for us to hear how customers react to all aspects of shopping at Amazon.com. Strong customer feedback like yours helps us continue to improve the selection and service we provide. We take this kind of information seriously as it is valuable to us in helping us to continue to improve our program.

We always value your business and hope to see you again soon at Amazon.

Best regards,
Deepika M

I am happy with that response. :)


Here once again is what I emailed to them:

Quote
Dear Jeff Bezos, Tom Taylor, and Amazon:

I am emailing to request that you at Amazon accept bitcoin as a payment method.

I read news reports [1] starting yesterday that Amazon is not currently interested in accepting bitcoin, and that part of the reasoning was that you are "not hearing from customers that it's right for them."

I am a longtime Amazon customer, and bitcoin is right for me.

I was encouraged when Gyft allowed the purchase of Amazon gift cards using bitcoin. Indeed, I think the future will prove that Gyft CEO Vinny Lingham had keen foresight when he made this decision. I may use their service at some point. My only reason not to use them is that the cards must be bought in specified incremental amounts, and I would prefer not to spend more than the exact cost of my purchase at the time.

I had never even heard of Overstock.com until news reports surfaced that they began accepting payment in bitcoin January 9, 2014. I made my first purchase from Overstock on that very day. As long as I cannot spend bitcoin directly on Amazon, I intend to continue using Overstock instead of Amazon whenever possible.

Best Regards,

(signed)

[1] For example: http://time.com/63376/amazon-bitcoin/


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: Natium on April 15, 2014, 06:39:42 PM
I will send an email too, it would be grat to buy there with btc!


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: franky1 on April 15, 2014, 08:30:15 PM
guys, dont use the general enquiry support..

try emailing the CEO direct. jeff@amazon.com

http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-customer-service-and-jeff-bezos-emails-2013-10


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 15, 2014, 09:04:07 PM
guys, dont use the general enquiry support..

try emailing the CEO direct. jeff@amazon.com

http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-customer-service-and-jeff-bezos-emails-2013-10
Yeah I'm sure the CEO will bother responding to 10 emails about accepting Bitcoins.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: Pentax on April 15, 2014, 09:23:32 PM
Here was my email to them.

And the idiotic response I got.

Quote

Subject:  Will you be adding?

Comments:I saw recently that Amazon decided not to accept Bitcoin as a payment option.  This is extremely disappointing.  

I am not clear how the company came to the conclusion that its users were not interested in it.  I was never asked?  I do a significant amount of buying through your site, and would have singlehandedly added thousands of dollars of revenue via Bitcoin, which I am currently giving to Overstock.com instead (because they accept Bitcoin).  

I believe this was a bad decision on the part of your executives.  I hope there are upper level people you can forward this to so that feedback from your end users can actually be evaluated, instead of assumed.


Response:

Quote

Hello,

I'm sorry; Amazon.com does not comment about rumors or speculative news reports.

However, I can assure you that we have not announced any dealings with Bitcoins.

I'm really sorry if this may have caused any inconvenience.

We hope to see you again soon.

Best regards,
Kumar B.


------------------------------------------------------------

So much for getting my email escalated to the powers that be.  

Mister Kumar no doubt hit delete after he misread my entire email.

-B-


that's funny.  I got the exact same response from Kumar B.

However, his response was in response to to my response to another agent that had responded to my first e-mail.  That agent wrote:

"Hello,

Currently, we don't accept Bitcoin as a payment method on our website. Moreover, I hope you'll understand that Amazon.com does not comment about rumors or speculative news reports.

Although that is the case, it's a good thing that you've brought this up to our attention and we'll consider your feedback as we plan further improvements.

Strong customer feedback like yours is very important in helping us continue to improve our website and services. I'll make sure to pass your message on to the appropriate department in our company. We always want to know how our customers react to all aspects of shopping on our website.

In general, we accept credit cards, debit cards...."  blah, blah, blah




Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 15, 2014, 09:24:46 PM
Atleast you're not getting automated responses, which is a plus for Amazons customer service. :)


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: Pentax on April 15, 2014, 09:25:11 PM
and, for anyone that's interested, here's Garzik's take on Amazon and BTC.

http://garzikrants.blogspot.com/2014/04/on-amazon-and-bitcoin.html


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 15, 2014, 09:28:54 PM
and, for anyone that's interested, here's Garzik's take on Amazon and BTC.

http://garzikrants.blogspot.com/2014/04/on-amazon-and-bitcoin.html
Thanks for the link, good read for anybody interested in the subject.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BTCtrader71 on April 15, 2014, 10:43:08 PM
and, for anyone that's interested, here's Garzik's take on Amazon and BTC.

http://garzikrants.blogspot.com/2014/04/on-amazon-and-bitcoin.html

+1

Great link, thanks. And timely.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BTCtrader71 on April 15, 2014, 11:34:27 PM
guys, dont use the general enquiry support..

try emailing the CEO direct. jeff@amazon.com

http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-customer-service-and-jeff-bezos-emails-2013-10

Awesome. I just sent an email directly to Jeff Bezos. I let him know that I expect to hear an announcement within three months, that Amazon will accept bitcoin. :D


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: p2pbucks on April 16, 2014, 12:58:41 AM
Never compromise  >:( IT's Bitcoin abandoned the Amazon  ;D


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 16, 2014, 04:55:35 PM
guys, dont use the general enquiry support..

try emailing the CEO direct. jeff@amazon.com

http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-customer-service-and-jeff-bezos-emails-2013-10

Awesome. I just sent an email directly to Jeff Bezos. I let him know that I expect to hear an announcement within three months, that Amazon will accept bitcoin. :D
Haha, good luck with that! :)
I hope as much as you that we'll see it though.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BTCtrader71 on April 16, 2014, 05:55:07 PM
I actually got a nice response from Amazon this morning to the email I sent Jeff Bezos last night. It's really about as good as I could have hoped for, short of Jeff responding personally. I believe her when she said she's at least mentioned it to other decision making people. Here it is:

Quote
Hello David,

I'm Mardy Berlinger of Amazon.com's Executive Customer Relations. Jeff Bezos received your email and asked me to respond on his behalf.

Thanks for your suggestion about adding Bitcoin as a valid payment option.

For business reasons, we cannot comment on any plans for future business partnerships. Any partners that we add in the future will be announced both on our website and in the media.

As of now, we accept credit cards, debit cards, payment from U.S. checking accounts, Amazon.com Gift Cards, Amazon Payments Stored Balance, and the Amazon.com Store Card as valid payment methods.

We really value your input and are always happy to hear our customers' thoughts on how we can improve the services we offer. To ensure your feedback is reviewed, I've shared your comments about adding Bitcoin as a valid payment option with the appropriate team for their consideration when planning future improvements. Your comments and suggestions will help us improve our store and offer better service to our customers.

If you do need to contact us in the future, here's a link to our Contact Us page: http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/contact-us/

We look forward to seeing you again soon.

Regards,

Mardy Berlinger
Executive Customer Relations
Amazon.com
http://www.amazon.com

Guys, if Amazon gets a lot of letters in support of bitcoin, it will certainly play a role in their decision whether to adopt it. I suggest well articulated, cordial letters to Jeff Bezos: jeff@amazon.com . (ie there's no advantage in getting all pissy that they haven't already jumped on the bitcoin bandwagon.)


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: franky1 on April 16, 2014, 06:08:21 PM
Quote
to: [jeff@amazon.com]
subject:[a payment option request]

Hi Jeff,

Recently i have read a (presumed) quote from you that your customers do not seem interested in bitcoin.

well i am interested in bitcoin and a large amount of my wealth is in bitcoin, compared to government currency. thus i would be tempted to use amazon often if it accepted bitcoin. as the fee's are much lower than having to 'cash out' to a debit card and then using a debit card on your service.

but until the day you accept bitcoin, i will continue spending in excess of $1000 a month on other services, such as overstock.com

yours sincerly,
A hopeful future bitcoin customer

[sent]


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 16, 2014, 06:10:39 PM
Quote
to: [jeff@amazon.com]
subject:[a payment option request]

Hi Jeff,

Recently i have read a (presumed) quote from you that your customers do not seem interested in bitcoin.

well i am interested in bitcoin and a large amount of my wealth is in bitcoin, compared to government currency. thus i would be tempted to use amazon often if it accepted bitcoin. as the fee's are much lower than having to 'cash out' to a debit card and then using a debit card on your service.

but until the day you accept bitcoin, i will continue spending in excess of $1000 a month on other services, such as overstock.com

yours sincerly,
A hopeful future bitcoin customer

[sent]
I'd atleast begin my sentences with a capital letter if I sent an email..


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BTCtrader71 on April 16, 2014, 06:34:41 PM
Here is the email I sent last night:

Quote
Dear Mr. Bezos,

I am a longtime Amazon customer (a satisfied one), and I am writing to let you know that I would be very happy to see Amazon adopt bitcoin.

Tom Taylor made a recent statement in an interview [1] with Re/code that Amazon is "not hearing from customers that it's right for them" and that they "don't have any plans within Amazon to engage bitcoin." Well, bitcoin is right for me. There, I said it! And I know I'm not the only one. In fact, by most metrics, the number of bitcoin users has doubled roughly every 100 days for the past 5 years and will continue to do so for a very very long time.

I had never heard of Overstock.com until I heard reports that CEO Patrick Byrne had decided that Overstock would accept bitcoin. On January 9, 2014, the first day that bitcoins were accepted on the site, I made my first ever purchase on Overstock.com. As long as I cannot spend bitcoins directly on the Amazon website, I plan to spend bitcoin on Overstock instead of dollars on Amazon whenever possible.

Despite my fervent belief in the underlying technology behind bitcoin, I know that if I were in your shoes, I would not make too rash a decision. As Jeff Garzik states very well in a recent blog post [2] of his, there is merit in a conservative approach on your part. But in my mind, the question is not if Amazon will accept bitcoin, it is when. I expect it will be sooner than most people think. An announcement in the next 3 months would be perfect. Not too soon, not too late.

Hmmm, I wonder what my very first bitcoin purchase will be? Coffee for my Keurig? A book for my kindle? I don't know, but I very much hope it will be in 2014.

Best regards,

[snip]

Amazon account: [snip]

[1] http://recode.net/2014/04/14/amazon-says-no-to-accepting-bitcoin-maybe-to-building-an-amex-or-visa-competitor/

[2] http://garzikrants.blogspot.com/2014/04/on-amazon-and-bitcoin.html

Bear in mind that if Jeff reads his emails -- and reportedly he does, even if only to skim them before forwarding them to someone else -- then you are shaping whatever impression he has of the bitcoin community. Be as articulate and persuasive as you can, without being adversarial or argumentative.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: Pentax on April 16, 2014, 06:53:01 PM
Mr. Bezos,
 
I've been a long-time customer of Amazon and have admired your company and your abilities for a long time.

Your most memorable quote, for me, was "Amazon is not happening to book selling; the future is happening to book selling."

In the payments space we have new forms of payment entering the marketplace.  Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are poised to disrupt the payments marketplace in much the same way Amazon has in it's chosen areas of interest.  As the future happened to booksellers it is now happening to payments processors.

When I read that Amazon had not heard from it's customers on this issue, and, therefore was not interested in implementing Bitcoin, I was surprised for a variety of reasons.  I also saw it as an opportunity to make my voice heard.

There are numerous benefits to consumers and retailers in utilizing Bitcoin and I am certain that through some interaction with the Bitcoin community and investigation of the benefits of this protocol, Amazon may decide to re-evaluate it's position on these emerging forms of payment.

As one of Amazon's customers, I am looking forward to the day when I can order a product through Amazon paid for in Bitcoin.....and delivered by a drone.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: franky1 on April 16, 2014, 07:02:31 PM

Bear in mind that if Jeff reads his emails -- and reportedly he does, even if only to skim them before forwarding them to someone else -- then you are shaping whatever impression he has of the bitcoin community. Be as articulate and persuasive as you can, without being adversarial or argumentative.


if i was a business, trying to become a partner or a service that amazon uses then yes being ' as articulate and persuasive as you can, without being adversarial or argumentative'. would be a good trait.

but i and 99% of emails on this topic should be from the prospective of customers, and to leave the 'sales speech' for bitpay/coinbase to do. all that is required for a customer to do is to show there is a demand for the service. trying to sound 'sales pitchy' can be taken as too preachy/over the top.

i wrote my email as more of a basic customer request. rather than a sales pitch. hence why i didn't even draft it like i do with my business communications. as grammar Naziism should only be used for formal documents of business/law. im pretty sure he wont ignore a customer based on spelling, but would ignore a customer based on being too preachy


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BTCtrader71 on April 16, 2014, 07:22:41 PM
as grammar Naziism should only be used for formal documents of business/law

It is true that there is a time and place for grammar Naziism as well as a time and place for informality. I do a lot of text messaging and much of it is intentionally informal, because it's in a context such that being informal actually feels more appropriate. If you want to adopt an informal style in an email to Jeff, I have no argument with that.

( On a side note: One of the things that pissed me off about Mark Karpeles was that his communications were always so informal. He asked for an extension of one of his recent court deadlines, and his best argument was that his lawyers needed more time to "get up to speed." So ... can't be bothered to be more specific than that, eh Mark? He has no business being all blasé to anyone about anything Gox-related. Who the fuck does he think he is??? )

but would ignore a customer based on being too preachy

I think we can agree that there's no sense in being preachy in an email to Bezos.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BTCtrader71 on April 16, 2014, 07:24:00 PM
Mr. Bezos,
 
I've been a long-time customer of Amazon and have admired your company and your abilities for a long time.

Your most memorable quote, for me, was "Amazon is not happening to book selling; the future is happening to book selling."

In the payments space we have new forms of payment entering the marketplace.  Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are poised to disrupt the payments marketplace in much the same way Amazon has in it's chosen areas of interest.  As the future happened to booksellers it is now happening to payments processors.

When I read that Amazon had not heard from it's customers on this issue, and, therefore was not interested in implementing Bitcoin, I was surprised for a variety of reasons.  I also saw it as an opportunity to make my voice heard.

There are numerous benefits to consumers and retailers in utilizing Bitcoin and I am certain that through some interaction with the Bitcoin community and investigation of the benefits of this protocol, Amazon may decide to re-evaluate it's position on these emerging forms of payment.

As one of Amazon's customers, I am looking forward to the day when I can order a product through Amazon paid for in Bitcoin.....and delivered by a drone.

Perfect. :)


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: dogechode on April 16, 2014, 07:30:35 PM
Rather than copying this letter, people should each write their own letter as it will have more impact than if they receive a hundred "clone" letters. Print it out and mail it for maximum effect.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 16, 2014, 07:31:15 PM
As mentioned before make sure you put a lot of thought into what you write as you're taking it upon yourself to represent the Bitcoin community when writing your mail.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: franky1 on April 16, 2014, 07:32:26 PM
Rather than copying this letter, people should each write their own letter as it will have more impact than if they receive a hundred "clone" letters. Print it out and mail it for maximum effect.
+1

letters from the prospective of true customers with all their flaws of not being business minded sound better then a cloned letter

As mentioned before make sure you put a lot of thought into what you write as you're taking it upon yourself to represent the Bitcoin community when writing your mail.

we are not representing bitcoin (meaning we are not bitcoin customer service reps) we are amazon customer representing our own preferences of bitcoin over the other options. dont be too sales pitchy, just tel thm that you want bitcoin because you see the benefits of bitcoin from a customers prospective.

what i means to say about bitcoin representation. means that we all use fiat as well. but when we ask businesses to accept fiat, do we all act sales pitchy.. or do we just say, 'im interested in fiat, please accept fiat in the forms of x,y,z


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 16, 2014, 07:33:32 PM
Rather than copying this letter, people should each write their own letter as it will have more impact than if they receive a hundred "clone" letters. Print it out and mail it for maximum effect.
+1

letters from the prospective of true customers with all their flaws of not being business minded sound better then a cloned letter
Definitely. Make it seems personal, let them understand that you're people like everybody else and not robots.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: jr3951 on April 16, 2014, 09:08:37 PM
Rather than copying this letter, people should each write their own letter as it will have more impact than if they receive a hundred "clone" letters. Print it out and mail it for maximum effect.

Sending letters about accepting an internet currency through regular mail?  :D

but yes, Ive sent in mine and every bitcoin/amazon user that would like this implemented should let them know, I also let them know I will be doing my shopping through Overstock until bitcoin is implemented, I'm not sure if money should be considered speech, but it is certainly a financial vote


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: dogechode on April 16, 2014, 09:16:14 PM
What if we asked them to do a trial run and start by accepting bitcoin payment from their Prime members?


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: omahapoker on April 16, 2014, 09:32:27 PM
Dear bitcoin community,

I have recievied and read every letter and after lots of meetings Amazon will start taking Bitcoin.




if you have any other concerns please call my personal cell number. 702-555-1212



Jeff Bezos
CEO Amazon.com INC






Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 16, 2014, 09:37:10 PM
Dear bitcoin community,

I have recievied and read every letter and after lots of meetings Amazon will start taking Bitcoin.




if you have any other concerns please call my personal cell number. 702-555-1212



Jeff Bezos
CEO Amazon.com INC





Lol, this sounds like a very personal response. Care to provide a screenshot?


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: BTCtrader71 on April 16, 2014, 09:39:39 PM
Dear bitcoin community,

I have recievied and read every letter and after lots of meetings Amazon will start taking Bitcoin.




if you have any other concerns please call my personal cell number. 702-555-1212



Jeff Bezos
CEO Amazon.com INC






Perhaps we should place bets on when this will happen! ;)

Seriously, I think Amazon will accept it eventually. They're just biding their time.

So, my bet is that we can buy stuff from Amazon and pay directly in bitcoin starting:

August 15, 2014

Who else has a prediction?


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: _Miracle on April 16, 2014, 11:19:09 PM
"Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!"

I did. It was a brief statement letting them know that I'd prefer to pay directly in bitcoin.


It's interesting to watch the struggle for adoption, especially for an online company. In the 90's people said "No one would ever put their credit card information online". There were so many headaches when dealing with online payments back then (still are a few).
I wonder how bitcoin would have been received 20 years ago (because that's at least how overdue this technology for cryptographic currency is)


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 16, 2014, 11:21:18 PM
"Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!"

I did. It was a brief statement letting them know that I'd prefer to pay directly in bitcoin.


It's interesting to watch the struggle for adoption, especially for an online company. In the 90's people said "No one would ever put their credit card information online". There were so many headaches when dealing with online payments back then (still are a few).
I wonder how bitcoin would have been received 20 years ago (because that's at least how overdue this technology for cryptographic currency is)

Hopefully we won't have to wait several years for this to happen, as people nowadays are better at adapting to new technology.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: Deviant1 on April 16, 2014, 11:31:30 PM
I couldn't believe when I read that Amazon said they weren't going to accept Bitcoin especially after Overstock's huge success with it. So Overstock's customers embraced Bitcoin and Amazon's won't?! What am I missing here?


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 16, 2014, 11:32:54 PM
I couldn't believe when I read that Amazon said they weren't going to accept Bitcoin especially after Overstock's huge success with it. So Overstock's customers embraced Bitcoin and Amazon's won't?! What am I missing here?
When did they say they weren't going to accept Bitcoins? They haven't confirmed either, they're on the contrary saying they're not going to discuss rumors. However they haven't said "We'll never accept Bitcoins". That'd just be stupid.


Title: Re: Let's tell Amazon that we want them to accept bitcoin!
Post by: apsvinet on April 16, 2014, 11:48:40 PM
I'm a prime member and shop almost exclusively on Amazon so I sent an email as soon as I heard the news. Glad others are voicing their opinions as well. Who should we set our sites on next?
What other large order websites are there? I guess eBay would be one website to aim for, but however that would require the SELLERS ( all individuals ) to accept bitcoins. However the option should be available for everyone.