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Title: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: Joshuar on April 26, 2014, 04:52:18 PM
Little Darkcoin Info: It is the 1st truly anonyous cryptocurrency with anonymous block transactions powered by darksend. It has a fully funtional public beta for DarkSend.
It has a maxiumum of 22million coins and has CPU/GPU mining, also being the first coin to use the x11 algorythm which is superior to Litecoin's scrypt and Bitcoin's sha256.
It also has a superior, extremely secure hasing algorithm with 11 rounds of scientifi hashing functions (blake, bmw, groestl, jh, keccak, skein, luffa, cubehash, shavite, simd, and echo)
Also, the first coin to have difficulty retargets using Dark Gravity Wave or DGW

Darkcoin Firsts:

1) First Truly Anonymous Cryptocurrency
2) First to use x11 Algo, which is Highly efficient, 30-50% cooler than scrypt and a much much better protection against ASCIS's
3) First to use DGW, Dark Gravity Well
4) First to implement Darksend, where users can send and recieve coins Anonymously because of the Ingenious minds of the developers, they implemented coin mixing technology, to scramble up all the darkcoin addresses, so no one can ever know Who sent you darkcoin and they won't know how much was sent either!


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: Amph on April 26, 2014, 04:54:50 PM
all good, but plz don't fool yourself, it won't reach crazy marketcap like 1B or other joke value

100M would be pretty good already


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: Vann on April 26, 2014, 04:56:16 PM
Darkcoin is one of the few coins that offers true innovation in more ways than one and is also built around a concept that is becoming scarcer by the minute, PRIVACY.


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: Joshuar on April 26, 2014, 04:56:35 PM
all good, but plz don't fool yourself, it won't reach crazy marketcap like 1B or other joke value

100M would be pretty good already

I agree it would reach 100M soon, like anything else it will take some time for it to reach 1Billion in value, it took bitcoin years to reach that, look what darkcoin has accomplished in mere months.


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: Mateusz on April 26, 2014, 04:58:11 PM
Yaaah, peoples are excited during the uptrend.

My favorite part is when they start to fight with each other during the downtrend (see BC).


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: tacotime on April 26, 2014, 04:59:56 PM
It's not even remotely "truly anonymous" (ZeroCoin) or "private" (CryptoNote).


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: thisisit on April 26, 2014, 05:00:28 PM
It's not even remotely "truly anonymous" (ZeroCoin) or "private" (CryptoNote).

+1


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: Joshuar on April 26, 2014, 05:02:46 PM
It's not even remotely "truly anonymous" (ZeroCoin) or "private" (CryptoNote).

If you look at ZeroCoin specs closely, you'd see that it's centralized similar to Ripple in a way and no one wants that.....and CryptoNote is not anonymous..

Darkcoin is the first.


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: tacotime on April 26, 2014, 05:08:37 PM
It's not even remotely "truly anonymous" (ZeroCoin) or "private" (CryptoNote).

If you look at ZeroCoin specs closely, you'd see that it's centralized similar to Ripple in a way and no one wants that.....and CryptoNote is not anonymous..

Darkcoin is the first.

DarkCoin/DarkSend is a broken implementation of CoinJoin.  It was made by gmaxwell to promote privacy.  The DarkCoin implementation doesn't do exactly what you think it does, and appears to rely on points of centralization called master nodes. These are central points of failure and attack vectors.

ZeroCoin/ZeroCash require trusted parameters to start the chain, yes.  This has been a source of controversy mostly because when the parameters have been generated, even if it's in a decentralized fashion (as proposed), it's impossible for you to tell what's going on in the chain because all you see are ZKPs that indicate whether a block/tx is correct or not any nothing else.

CryptoNote relies on stealth addressing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418071), ring signatures, and denominations to maintain privacy, all of which are features that required the use of people like actual cryptographers to develop.  CryptoNote already has more privacy features than DarkCoin has been been able to implement in the past three months.

See: https://cryptonote.org/img/cryptonote_transaction.png
https://bytecoin.org/whitepaper.pdf


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: gentacomp on April 26, 2014, 05:20:03 PM
DRK stabil to the moon...
More difficulty = less coin = higher price
What I see DRK is BTC that not having trouble with rumors
Bye2 PBOC :D


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: slapper on April 26, 2014, 05:33:54 PM
These type of pump threads are as worse as the FUD threads.


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: btc-mike on April 26, 2014, 06:33:20 PM
It's not even remotely "truly anonymous" (ZeroCoin) or "private" (CryptoNote).

If you look at ZeroCoin specs closely, you'd see that it's centralized similar to Ripple in a way and no one wants that.....and CryptoNote is not anonymous..

Darkcoin is the first.

DarkCoin/DarkSend is a broken implementation of CoinJoin.  It was made by gmaxwell to promote privacy.  The DarkCoin implementation doesn't do exactly what you think it does, and appears to rely on points of centralization called master nodes. These are central points of failure and attack vectors.

ZeroCoin/ZeroCash require trusted parameters to start the chain, yes.  This has been a source of controversy mostly because when the parameters have been generated, even if it's in a decentralized fashion (as proposed), it's impossible for you to tell what's going on in the chain because all you see are ZKPs that indicate whether a block/tx is correct or not any nothing else.

CryptoNote relies on stealth addressing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418071), ring signatures, and denominations to maintain privacy, all of which are features that required the use of people like actual cryptographers to develop.  CryptoNote already has more privacy features than DarkCoin has been been able to implement in the past three months.

See: https://cryptonote.org/img/cryptonote_transaction.png
https://bytecoin.org/whitepaper.pdf

Cryptonote is just the tech behind the coin. There is not a coin implemented yet that will do well.


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: griffinriz on April 26, 2014, 06:40:53 PM
People were saying same thing about BC  ;D


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: Amph on April 26, 2014, 06:54:59 PM
People were saying same thing about BC  ;D

it's always the same shit, yet they are so naive about this lol

no the future is still bitcoin deal with it


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: platorin on April 30, 2014, 02:28:38 PM
Well, we'll see what comes out of it.


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: Ryota on April 30, 2014, 03:14:26 PM
It is the 1st truly anonyous cryptocurrency with anonymous block transactions powered by darksend.

Did you check the code to verify this? or you just repeat what you read?

Can you post here the code used for darksend?

You can't because there is absolutely nothing!

This is just marketing for ignorant people.


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: reRaise on April 30, 2014, 03:19:59 PM
Don't think so, read this:

"Looking at this data, we see that Darkcoin was mined with 500 DRK generated per block from the get go. From block 1 to at least block 3250, according to their blockchain, they were still producing 500 coins each block. The transition from 500 to 277 coins per block occurs between 3250 and 3500 but this author did not see the necessity of getting the exact moment of halving. Simple math shows that 3250 blocks multiplied by 500 coins a block is 1,625,000 Darkcoins created between the times of 3:54 and 11:22 on January 19th, 2014. As of today there are around 4,300,000 DRK in existence, making this a pretty hefty instamine. The Darkcoin website expects around 22,000,000 DRK to be created. That means in less than 8 hours, almost 5% of the Darkcoins that ever will be created spawned in that 1/3 of a day. It's safe to say Darkcoin has left it's investors in the dark on this one."

lol


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: rikkie on April 30, 2014, 03:22:11 PM
I don't have darkcoin at this moment, but i was thinking about it to have some. I'll see. You may be right.


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: Joshuar on April 30, 2014, 03:23:17 PM
It is the 1st truly anonyous cryptocurrency with anonymous block transactions powered by darksend.

Did you check the code to verify this? or you just repeat what you read?

Can you post here the code used for darksend?

You can't because there is absolutely nothing!

This is just marketing.
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkcoinWhitepaper.pdf

Please look through that before making baseless assumptions...Darksend is the solution for Bitcoin's blockchain. You cannot see a sender's address nor will you be able to identify the amount of coins held by someone using Darkcoin.

Did you look at Bitcoin or Litecoin's "insta mine", the early adopters will always get the most because of low difficulty, Satoshi's 1million Bitcoin..anyone? Luckily enough, most of those early adopters Sell off their coins prematurely, and there are hardly any of them left with a substantial amount of coins. So reRaise, your point is invalid.


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: Ryota on April 30, 2014, 03:36:56 PM
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkcoinWhitepaper.pdf

Please look through that before making baseless assumptions...Darksend is the solution for Bitcoin's blockchain. You cannot see a sender's address nor will you be able to identify the amount of coins held by someone using Darkcoin.

I haven't asked the white paper but the code!

Can you post here the source code about darksend?

You can't because there is absolutely nothing and nobody has verified it.

What you read is not what you get...


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: omahapoker on April 30, 2014, 04:57:43 PM
i'm like darkcoin more and more everyday. BC too


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: innergy on April 30, 2014, 05:01:34 PM
http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkcoinWhitepaper.pdf

Please look through that before making baseless assumptions...Darksend is the solution for Bitcoin's blockchain. You cannot see a sender's address nor will you be able to identify the amount of coins held by someone using Darkcoin.

I haven't asked the white paper but the code!

Can you post here the source code about darksend?

You can't because there is absolutely nothing and nobody has verified it.

What you read is not what you get...

Code will be released after "Final Release" stage. After some BETAs, now we are in "Release Candidate" stage.


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: bigc1984 on May 02, 2014, 05:01:34 PM
It's not even remotely "truly anonymous" (ZeroCoin) or "private" (CryptoNote).

If you look at ZeroCoin specs closely, you'd see that it's centralized similar to Ripple in a way and no one wants that.....and CryptoNote is not anonymous..

Darkcoin is the first.

DarkCoin/DarkSend is a broken implementation of CoinJoin.  It was made by gmaxwell to promote privacy.  The DarkCoin implementation doesn't do exactly what you think it does, and appears to rely on points of centralization called master nodes. These are central points of failure and attack vectors.

ZeroCoin/ZeroCash require trusted parameters to start the chain, yes.  This has been a source of controversy mostly because when the parameters have been generated, even if it's in a decentralized fashion (as proposed), it's impossible for you to tell what's going on in the chain because all you see are ZKPs that indicate whether a block/tx is correct or not any nothing else.

CryptoNote relies on stealth addressing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=418071), ring signatures, and denominations to maintain privacy, all of which are features that required the use of people like actual cryptographers to develop.  CryptoNote already has more privacy features than DarkCoin has been been able to implement in the past three months.

See: https://cryptonote.org/img/cryptonote_transaction.png
https://bytecoin.org/whitepaper.pdf

Don't bother with tacotime he has been proven to be an idiot numerous times. He stays out of the darkcoin forum with his FUD out of fear.


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: nextgencoin on May 02, 2014, 05:05:31 PM
So as Darkcoin's only innovation is its anonymity why would we use use Darkcoin once other better coins and systems have anonymity?


 I'll give you a clue....TIMBER!!!


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: tacotime on May 02, 2014, 05:06:24 PM
Don't bother with tacotime he has been proven to be an idiot numerous times. He stays out of the darkcoin forum with his FUD out of fear.

ooook


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: a00r on May 02, 2014, 05:11:47 PM
bitquark is the future


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: MoneroExpress on May 02, 2014, 05:18:46 PM
Cryptonote is just the tech behind the coin. There is not a coin implemented yet that will do well.

Monero is here


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: IloveAnonCoin on May 02, 2014, 05:19:25 PM

THE FACTS ABOUT DARK COIN

1. released without windows QT so that only dev and pals could mine it.

2. Instamined harder than any other coin out there  12.5% of the current minting was mined in the first day

3. Later they decided to cut the minting by 75% to turn their 12.5% instamine with no windows QT into 50% instamine in 24hours - nice hey


yes that is correct they mined 50% of all the coins available at this time by themselves in the first 24 hours whilst windows users could not mine.


That is the facts.... doesn't matter what else they say... nothing can change what they have done.

Once zero coin, or bytecoin with a decent wallet it released or another darkcoin clone is released.... dark coin will sink like a stone.



Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: Kai Proctor on May 02, 2014, 05:23:53 PM



"Facts" by cryptohunter, 15 y.o. angry expert in cryptocurrencies.  :)


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: tacotime on May 02, 2014, 05:24:43 PM
Cryptonote is just the tech behind the coin. There is not a coin implemented yet that will do well.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0

People are voting for Monero with their wallets rather than their mouths right now... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=578192.0


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: flipme on May 02, 2014, 08:30:24 PM
Cryptonote is just the tech behind the coin. There is not a coin implemented yet that will do well.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583449.0

People are voting for Monero with their wallets rather than their mouths right now... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=578192.0
http://guiltycarnivore.com/wp-content/uploads/fud.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/WjrG3Im.gif?1


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: iHeartSmartArt on May 04, 2014, 01:53:35 PM
I don't have darkcoin at this moment, but i was thinking about it to have some. I'll see. You may be right.
lol im with you on this one. Missed the train into btc still early for Darkcoin. Darkcoin has gone all the way as far as giving cryptocurrency true privacy.

no the future is still bitcoin deal with it
Although Bitcoin has volume now, it will not necessarily serve as the most preferred form of payment for anonymous online transactions(Bits original promise was a virtual-off-shore-account turned out to be an open ledger test trail. ok the market likes these things... Now lets make one much more private and decentralized. 2014 year of the Darkcoin?!).


Darksend will be fully integrated in the system this month of May 2014. After which point, Darkcoin goes dark!
Masternodes promise to provide superior transaction anonymity compared to all existing cryptocurrencies on the market.


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: cryptohunter on May 04, 2014, 02:14:15 PM



"Facts" by cryptohunter, 15 y.o. angry expert in cryptocurrencies.  :)

Facts are facts - sorry that age doesn't come into it.

Those trying to distract from the facts are trying to hide them.


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: biyelala on May 04, 2014, 02:30:52 PM
I do love Darkcoin as you . After scrypt asic , X11 will be accept by lots of people .


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: SolidStateSurvivor on May 04, 2014, 03:44:21 PM

THE FACTS ABOUT DARK COIN

1. released without windows QT so that only dev and pals could mine it.

2. Instamined harder than any other coin out there  12.5% of the current minting was mined in the first day

3. Later they decided to cut the minting by 75% to turn their 12.5% instamine with no windows QT into 50% instamine in 24hours - nice hey


yes that is correct they mined 50% of all the coins available at this time by themselves in the first 24 hours whilst windows users could not mine.


That is the facts.... doesn't matter what else they say... nothing can change what they have done.

Once zero coin, or bytecoin with a decent wallet it released or another darkcoin clone is released.... dark coin will sink like a stone.



Ohh dear, another one of these. ::) Seen it before have we? :P


Title: Re: Darkcoin is the Future!
Post by: iHeartSmartArt on May 04, 2014, 07:47:45 PM



Ohh dear, another one of these. ::) Seen it before have we? :P


Not true sir. Not 50%. None of that matters. And someone biased named "IloveAnnoCoin" wrote that.. 5% of the total coin are out as of now. http://bitinfocharts.com/darkcoin/
 (http://bitinfocharts.com/darkcoin/)
Bitcoin has had a very similar instamine, and more problems then they care to admit.

Basically, I am saying Darkcoin will work out and its a great coin with real potential. Do some research for yourselves.