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Hello guys and girls.

There's one question that I can't get out of my head. A guy starts a huge revolution, and then disappears?  Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? Let's try to find out! Let's help each other out here. Let's solve this once and for all!

I hope that we will find out one day. But I don't think this guy or girl wants to come forward by her/himself.

I can't do this by myself, that's why I want to bring us all together. What do we have? IRC logs? What times has he been active?

I've read that he seemed to be active the times a US citizen would be active. Why did he choose the Asian "name" Satoshi Nakamoto?

We know that this guy (or guys) [are/]is a crypto-nerd, right? So is there anything cryptic about his nick?

Maybe there's something less intuitive in his nick, something recursive?

Sa-to-[sh]i   Na-ka-mo-to <---- Sh  sticks out
a o i             a a o o  <------ just the vocals .. can there be a pattern here? See the connection between the both separate "words"?

What about this (sticking in a o i, as a piece of puzzle fitting into a a o o:

a[a]a

• oo <--- Shi part sticks out here as well

So, might Shi be significant some how? Let's try putting it in the front to begin with

Shi-sa-to Na-ka-mo-to

Here's a weird one:
Shi-to-na-ka-sa-to

We need clues! And there might not be anything with his name at all. This guy has been so quiet, so it's hard to know much about him.

But if he wanted to be anonymous all along from the beginning, why would he?

Are there famous cryptographic names we can look at, and see if they have gotten any richer lately? This guy must atleast be some cryptoguy.

I think they narrowed it down to 1-2 people...  :P I'll try to find an article I read.

Satoshi Nakamoto isn't made up from random letters, both are proper Japanese names, about as common as a "James Jones" might be in English.

My bet is that he/she is just a middle aged American with a anime fetish or so :P

I heard she's into Furries.  8)

oh again?
lol

Satoshi Nakamoto was a pseudonym adopted by a group of ppl - they are still among us <cue twilightzone music> - you wont find a "him"

Let's go all national treasure on this.

Okay, in true Nicholas Cage persona I will make ridiculous claims off insignificant facts:

His initials are SN, SN backwards is SN, serial number, his name has 15 letters, take away the first letters and its 13. AHA! an isbn number, but to what. The name atoshi akamoto must be in code, but whats the cipher. Well, with a japanese name it must be a cipher from the far east. PURPLE, the cipher machine from WWII. Putting his name without the first letters into the cipher we get the ISBN 978-0743457019. Off to DC.

edit: Back again from the Library of Congress. It seems there was a note hidden in the book, will get back to you guys soon.

its...me!

There was/is a nic registered on this forum. It's not likely that a nic is used by more than one, is it?

LOL are you serious? - many ppl have more than one account and many accounts are used by more than 1 user

Just off the top of my head i can think of 4 BTC "businesses" that share accounts between staff, no harder for a group of users to set up  ;)

I don't really care who coded it. Whether his/her/their anomymity is out of fear of wikileaks fallout or simple humility, I respect the right to privacy. I wouldn't want a false rape charge to smear bitcoin.

*stands* I AM SATOSHI NAKAMOTO

exactly

*stands* SO AM I!

lmao

No, I am Spartacus Satoshi! :)

And here's the article you're looking for where he may or may not have been identified:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/10/10/111010fa_fact_davis

I have just seen that SN is a hot blonde! It was on TV, it must be true!

Satoshi can be one person or more people and he/they possess the biggest number of bitcoins (search transactions or any other way to find where are millions of BTC), and he/they possess the biggest exchanger, mtgox, which ask you to send ID verification to Japan, so, the name Satoshi is Japanese, mtgox is Japanese... is that enough for you to conclude who is/are Satoshi or where to find him/them?

But if he wanted to be anonymous all along from the beginning, why would he?

because government can make the law against bitcoins, when it become enough popular that government become crazy about hidden money (unpaid taxes), and satoshi can finish in the prison or he can be hunted by police.

I hope we never find out who Satoshi is.  Men are weak, ideas are bulletproof.

Beautifully said, yet still a mystery we'd all love to know.

No, let's not find out. I am afraid of what could possibly happen to the guy/group behind that nickname. They want their anonymity for a reason.

Virus/wallet stealer installer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61491.0
The account should at least get the sig pulled if not banned.

great find, everyone report it.

There's one question that I can't get out of my head. A guy starts a huge revolution, and then disappears?  Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? Let's try to find out! Let's help each other out here. Let's solve this once and for all!

I can see your perspective.  ;)

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/23935/oshi

There is even a reference to low earth orbit debris that might give some kind of geo positional location.  :-X

Maybe Bitcoins were created because the enforcement of Laws were unjust already.

Why he/she didn't wanted to identify him/herself? That's weird. Guess how many bitcoins he had collected? I guess he must be laughing at a corner with his cash right now, after bitcoin spike last June.

 ;D

Taking into account the Genesis message and that he stayed on the project for almost two years after release, it's doubtful he just abandoned the project completely. I suspect he is active in Bitcoin related development in some capacity, and probably a well-funded one at that.

Maybe he ran out of time and had to go back to his dimension. Yeah, that sounds about right.

Such searches are quite amusing, the guy/group is obviously smart and a techie, if he/they didn't want to be outed, you can be sure he won't be.

Also, that he is hiding in fear of his life because of his creation, what exactly, say a government would achieve by torturing or killing him? Bitcoin is already public and decentralized, cannot be stopped by regular means, even by Satoshi himself. Why Gavin, as current lead developer isn't afraid?

Once, while intoxicated, I romanticised that Satoshi is an autistic genius kid, with slightly gimped body, living somewhere in snowy Scandinavia, who decided to step back into shadow, ashamed of his condition and fear of public interaction, leaving his beloved creation behind. I was intoxicated, mind you, but my guess is as good as yours.

Would be with the coins he should have had to sell to fund it.

I also dont think its just one person, maybe thats also the reason 'he' isnt active anymore.
We will never know for sure tho i guess  :)

I've read that Satoshi Nakamoto could be a pseudonym for a group of founders who adopted that alias so that people would be more willing to adopt bitcoins without the fear that they control a large stake of bitcoins

if satoshi wanted bitcoin to grow, he would need to be anonymous. Not many people starting out would like to see the man that started it and no doubt got rich mining bitcoins worth a few pennies, because it will be like he controls it, when bitcoin is mean to be peer to peer and controlled by nobody. If you don't think it will look like he controls it, consider this. So many newspapers and generally evenry average bitcoin user will always be trying to talk to him, looking for tips and advice. 
Anyway, people know why he chose his name:
Samsung - Sa
Toshiba -Toshi

A japanese brand, I forgot their name - Naka
Motorola -Moto

All of those brands are japanese.
He also used a free german email provider and was known to reply randomly at random times, and took long to reply, almost like it was something that wasn't checked very often.
If satoshi is found, it will be all over the news, old bitcoiners will come back, and the price will skyrocket because of this. Then all the people who joined because they saw it on the news will get bored, and someone will point out that whatever satoshi says controls prices(if he says prices will go down, everyone will do what the creator says, because they think the creator knows best, and prices will plumbecause of this. The same would happen the other way if he says prices will go up), everyone will realise the market is too unstable and eventually leave.

Nakamichi - audio electronics manufacturer
Nakagawa Electronics - Manufacturer of quartz crystals, clock oscillators, ceramic resonators and filters
Nakatomi- from "Die Hard" 1988, a movie about a securities heist. =)

Thanks :P

Come to think of it, Nakatomi is the same thing. Naka To(shiba) Mi(tsubishi)... Hmm Naka seems to be the key to the conspiracy.  :D

Really? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola#History)

Although he never written in Japanese, let us look at character meaning in Japanese name. Satoshi has many different ways to write, but Nakamoto is same by 99% of surname.

中本 - most common way to write nakamoto

中 - inside or middle
本 - book, or using in word meaning is like main or original

智 - best way to write satoshi, used in words like wisdom, knowledge, a sage. Or for you, 智者不惑。

Only for proving also I can be stupid. Like all of topic.

L'Hôpital, Ohm, Tesla, Fermat, Satoshi. Or Crohn, Lou Gehrig, Legionnaires, Satoshi.

He died?

Why does everyone assume it's a single person?  It could be a name to represent a group of college buddies who thought it would be fun to manipulate world currency  :D

The big question to me is why hide?

Someone who creates a cryptocurrency that values anonymity and security would obviously value their privacy.

I was wondering about the identity of this person or group of persons as well, and I'm sure that if anyone actually has a need to consult with Satoshi, he/she/they will make themselves known.

I believe that Satoshi very well could be a (group of) person(s) who is (are) very aware of an underlying cancer in our global society that left unchecked will destroy us.  The only way around it, is to make a fundamental change to the way we interact with each other, and an intangible, uncontrollable commodity is likely the right answer.  I can't even begin to imagine what the endgame is, but I'm sure it will be a truly amazing revolution that will forever change the way we look at ourselves.

My guess, is that eventually their identities will come out.  Just look at how many thousands of bitcoins have never been used from the first several hundreds and thousands of blocks.  Watch those addresses, and I think you'll know when Satoshi is ready to make an appearance.

Though it's also possible that those coins have already been destroyed, or maybe will be laundered through so many transactions that it will completely obfuscate the identities of the persons involved to where positive identification become unreasonably difficult.  The really cool thing, is that no matter when Satoshi comes forward, he/she/they will be able to prove their identity beyond any doubt, reasonable or unreasonable.

We'll just have to wait and see.

-Prayer

Well my guess is its the guy running Mt.Gox and/or bitcoin.org.

Mt.Gox is Japanese right? Satoshi Nakamoto is a Japanese name. Coincidence? I THINK NOT!


I think its awesome that we live in a world during peak oil, WWIII looming, evil puppet masters manipulating politics like a game and hero geniuses changing the world while no one knows who they are.

Straight out of code geass man - sure we may die and what not, but damn it rocks :D

Is it one person

If he runs mtgox, I would be dissapointed. Mtgox is awful.

Ehh it's really not thaat bad

I don't think the secret is in rearraning the letters in his name. That's pretty far out there dude..

I've been in tuned to the rumor that this guy named Paco Ahlgren is SN. He lives in Tx. He wrote this book called Discipline that is parallel to all of this shit going on.   The catch? This book came out two years before bitcoin. The saga continues...

If Atlas turns out to be Satoshi Nagamoto, I know lot of users here will commit hara-kiri. This is way too weird: http://www.pacoahlgren.com/resume/paco_ahlgren_resume.php

~Bruno~

i hear SN was influenced by Ahlgren's book. makes sense i guess. anyone read the book?

No one who lists Crystal Reports and Sharepoint on their resume is a real crypto nerd.

Dude, that is EXACTLY why they would list that on their resume.

You gotta think outside the box. SN would never make himself that transparent.

The original client was supposedly kinda badly programmed... just throwing that out there.

I thought the same thing in all honestly, but thats just how I think lol.

Anyone have a link to that article that names Satoshi as that Irish guy, and the competing article that claims to debunk it and names a few other people as possibilities?

Or the threads on this forum that discussed these leads?

It's been a while since I read these theories.

They seemed moderately compelling, and the forum's search feature doesn't seem to like me.

Discipline by Paco Ahlgren.

I took the bait and read the book. I can see why people speculate that he is Satoshi Nakamoto. There are tons of parallels, especially around the time frame that bitcoin came out. HOWEVER....  I am finding this concept hard to grasp that PA could be associated. I just don't see it. So he wrote a book. Lots of people do. It's called coincidence.

Man, I find this stuff fascinating!

Whoever he/she/they are, they've certainly made their mark on history. Must be weird not being able to tell anyone about it.

Did you read the entire book? Was it good?

Not only when one reads Discipline, it reads you, for Archangel OP is an anagram for Paco Ahlgren.

My theory? Well....
Here it goes...

I think he created this currency, not realizing how valuable his privacy was going to be once it took off. I have some friends who have been fans of Paco Ahlgren's book, Discipline. They think he wrote the book as a facade to cover up what he was really creating on the side. This book has too many parallels, although I'm not giving into this theory that PA is SN. It's too basic. Just doesn't seem like the answer to this mystery. However, PA is almost totally off the radar now too...which  (if i let myself get carried away) may seem like he MIGHT be involved somehow. If he's not SN, he could be someone heavily involved. Lots to speculate.

I was looking into the background of Andrew (Andy) Davidoff the other day to see if there was a connection.

~Bruno~

http://www.weidai.com/bmoney.txt

That was written in 1998.

I've asked this on rugatu, hoping someone goes for the reward and enlightens with a proper answer  :)

http://www.rugatu.com/questions/1383/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto

The creator is probably a member of this forum.

1. He is known to use forums
2. This is one of the largest bitcoin forums

If so, he would probably look at all of the threads posted about his identity.

He would probably do the following:

1. Use a new identity frequently
2. State the obvious to throw folks off the scent
 ;D

I think SN is actually a whole set of people who wish to remain anonymous. The idea is not to draw attention to a guy who invented something revolutionary but rather to the idea itself.

I dont think that he exists, bitcoins are great but i think this is the marketing of the previous bitcoin owners.

I'm Satoshi Nakamoto...

Give me the big prize now and I tell you

Satoshi Nakamoto is an advanced Turing machine. Turing test passed  :)

We still have no idea who satoshi is, after creating this thread (and many others) for years, and I don't think we will be able to solve the puzzle unless he/she/they come out to reveal the identity.

IMO, we should just focus on how to make bitcoin better instead of focusing on the true identity of the founder.

Leave Satoshi alone.

I doubt it we will ever know who it is or who they are. Maybe one day someone will reveal themselves, who knows. But it's for their safety to remain anonimous.

Is it really a puzzle? A puzzle is intended to be solved at some point. This is just someone who decided to remain anonymous, or pseudonymous. There's no reward or definite answer behind all this. It may just be a virtual identity created by some cryptography enthusiasts...

its best for him to not be found

I like Satoshi Nakamoto to remain anonymous forever that would make him more Legendary.

He. He likes Vidya. You were sort of close though.

He is a wizard

So many people want to know exactly who he is and I can understand why because it's such a big mystery and people want to solve it however I don't know I kind of like the idea of it being a mystery and nobody knowing, it's what makes him who he is and if he wishes to stay anonymous if it is a him then why can't he :)

And he will be more safe as well. :)

I think we will never know who saotshi is. He probably left the bitcoin community and no longer keep an eye on it.

This is totally unnecessary, satoshi must remain anonymous.