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Economy => Currency exchange => Topic started by: cryptoxchange on January 15, 2012, 04:06:28 PM



Title: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: cryptoxchange on January 15, 2012, 04:06:28 PM
We have a trial running, enabling people to purchase Crypto X Coupons in $50 USD and $100 USD Vouchers via PayPal through Ebay.

Listings Removed Until We Can Remove the Charge Back Issue from Fraudulent Buyers - Will be Available Again Soon!

We will not be selling the Crypto Coupons for PayPal or on Ebay due to Fraud risks and time.

However we will have withdraw to PayPal up and running within the next couple of days.


Regards

Crypto X Change


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: RandyFolds on January 19, 2012, 01:30:10 AM
What happened?

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This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available.


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: 72289 on January 19, 2012, 02:08:59 AM
Yea, I was about to buy one. :(


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: RandyFolds on January 19, 2012, 02:14:08 AM
Yea, I was about to buy one. :(

still got megavideo accounts? I need some for friends!


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: 72289 on January 19, 2012, 02:32:26 AM
Yea, I was about to buy one. :(

still got megavideo accounts? I need some for friends!

Not right now. Between people on here trying to scam me saying they didn't receive theirs (total bullshit) and losing contact with my guy I don't have any.  I'll keep looking though to see if I can help you out!

OP -- Get those things back up, it was a great idea! :D


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: RandyFolds on January 19, 2012, 02:44:11 AM
It is a great idea. You are selling a (somewhat) tangible good, and it seems like that would get eBay and paypal on your side for disputes.


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on January 19, 2012, 02:46:12 AM
It is a great idea. You are selling a (somewhat) tangible good, and it seems like that would get eBay and paypal on your side for disputes.

How is it somewhat tangible?  It is a code delivered by email.  Ebay I never got anything I wish to dispute the auction by this scammer.


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: 72289 on January 19, 2012, 02:47:46 AM
It is a great idea. You are selling a (somewhat) tangible good, and it seems like that would get eBay and paypal on your side for disputes.

How is it somewhat tangible?  It is a code delivered by email.  Ebay I never got anything I wish to dispute the auction by this scammer.

You send a "congratulatory" certificate via USPS with tracking. They won't dispute much at all after that.  All he has to do is word it like they winner is truly winning the certificate, not the code via email.  Hell, you can even put the code on the certificate AND email it to them.  Either way just mail them something representing the auction and eBay will stay off your ass.


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on January 19, 2012, 02:50:19 AM

You send a "congratulatory" certificate via USPS with tracking. They won't dispute much at all after that.  All he has to do is word it like they winner is truly winning the certificate, not the code via email.  Hell, you can even put the code on the certificate AND email it to them.  Either way just mail them something representing the auction and eBay will stay off your ass.


By that logic wouldn't emailing someone a cert which has a Bitcoin private key make it ebay dispute proof?

I am thinking not.  Now PHYSICALLY mailing a crypto x change code likely has some seller protection but email is easily disputed.


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: 72289 on January 19, 2012, 02:54:07 AM
Well we all have our own opinions.  I've been selling things such as Amazon coupons on eBay for a few months now and whenever I get a dispute I just bring up the DCN and eBay makes the buyer prove it rather than the seller.  The buyer generally never can. Just my experience. :)


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: RandyFolds on January 19, 2012, 03:10:43 AM
It is a great idea. You are selling a (somewhat) tangible good, and it seems like that would get eBay and paypal on your side for disputes.

How is it somewhat tangible?  It is a code delivered by email.  Ebay I never got anything I wish to dispute the auction by this scammer.

I am not a tech guy, but isn't there some sort of delivery confirmation that you can use on email? An email beats the hell out of trying to convince eBay to look at blockexplorer... As a legitimate form of communication, I consider it somewhat tangible. It was just an opinion. Who knows what ebay and paypal would do...


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: cryptoxchange on January 20, 2012, 02:09:00 AM
Hey Guys,

We started to get some dodgy transactions, so just working out a plan so that people can buy the codes.

It was blatant a couple of purchasers trying to rip us off. So just looking at making it so there are a minimum Ebay Feedback system etc, and make it so that charge backs are a Non issue as charge backs are the only Issue with this.

Will keep everyone posted ASAP on when we have this setup and charge back proof!

Thanks

Crypto X Change


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: MelMan2002 on January 21, 2012, 03:09:52 PM
Well we all have our own opinions.  I've been selling things such as Amazon coupons on eBay for a few months now and whenever I get a dispute I just bring up the DCN and eBay makes the buyer prove it rather than the seller.  The buyer generally never can. Just my experience. :)


Really?  PayPal Seller protection does NOT cover digital goods.  The one and only time I tried to sell digital goods the buyer claimed that their account got hacked.  PayPal reimbursed the buyer by reversing the charge.  I never recovered my loss.  NEVER sell digital goods on eBay or through PayPal.


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: cryptoxchange on January 21, 2012, 03:12:37 PM
Well we all have our own opinions.  I've been selling things such as Amazon coupons on eBay for a few months now and whenever I get a dispute I just bring up the DCN and eBay makes the buyer prove it rather than the seller.  The buyer generally never can. Just my experience. :)


Really?  PayPal Seller protection does NOT cover digital goods.  The one and only time I tried to sell digital goods the buyer claimed that their account got hacked.  PayPal reimbursed the buyer by reversing the charge.  I never recovered my loss.  NEVER sell digital goods on eBay or through PayPal.

Yes, It seems it isn't worth the hassle.

We are however still working tonight on Withdraw from the Exchange to PayPal for our clients as another Withdraw method.

Thank you for the advice

Regards

Crypto X Change


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: BTCurious on January 21, 2012, 03:33:40 PM
Do they know you're involved in Bitcoin? They generally don't like that (if that wasn't obvious by now :P).


Title: Re: Purchase Bitcoin With PayPal - Crypto X Change Coupons
Post by: cryptoxchange on January 21, 2012, 03:44:26 PM
Do they know you're involved in Bitcoin? They generally don't like that (if that wasn't obvious by now :P).

Thats not the issue at all, we are selling a gift card's to our Exchange in different denominations, which people can redeem and buy Gold, Silver, Platinum, Palladium and yes Bitcoin. So we are no bothering now as the time it takes and the risk of fraud out weighs other more important things we have going on. So we won't be perusing this again.