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Title: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: ttyson on May 01, 2014, 12:09:36 PM
Dear fellow miners,

That in and of itself is not a big deal.  What is rather cool however, is that I'm mining with a single Block Erupter that I bought on eBay for $300.  My hash rate hovers around 38 Gh/s.  That means of the current Total Hash Rate of 55,000 TH/s or so, I represent a scant 0.069091%.  I didn't just find a block, I crushed it with a share value of 15.6G.  Was I solo mining?  Hell no.  I'm contributing a minuscule amount of work to the Eligius pool.  Nevertheless, there is my block.  Height 298,562. See? Lightning can and does strike.  If any of you feel bad about the fact that earned +0.00016263 BTC instead of 25 BTC for my efforts, my address is 19cK8nHieqXxZbWoYFSdSgm2Q3Cb5CEPN6  Donations welcome!!

Happy Mining!,
Tony  


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: TheRealSteve on May 01, 2014, 12:25:14 PM
At some point these low hash rate devices really work well in the margins of any pool (eventually rounding errors will mean zero payout), and you're better off with the solo mine :)  Still, congrats! :D


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Crossbow376 on May 01, 2014, 01:52:48 PM
At some point these low hash rate devices really work well in the margins of any pool (eventually rounding errors will mean zero payout), and you're better off with the solo mine :)  Still, congrats! :D

At some point, it will be not profitable to run those those low hashrate (low efficiency) miners, no matter you are pool mining or solo mining, unless you have free electricity.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Equate on May 01, 2014, 02:07:04 PM
At some point these low hash rate devices really work well in the margins of any pool (eventually rounding errors will mean zero payout), and you're better off with the solo mine :)  Still, congrats! :D

At some point, it will be not profitable to run those those low hashrate (low efficiency) miners, no matter you are pool mining or solo mining, unless you have free electricity.

If BTC price doesn't rise then that some point will be coming soon :P


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: DeboraMeeks on May 01, 2014, 02:09:17 PM
Congrats, if only you had been solo mining..


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: pabpete on May 01, 2014, 02:51:29 PM
Play the mining lottery everyone!


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: hulk on May 01, 2014, 03:12:51 PM
Congrats, at first I though you were solo mining until I read the full post. So nothing happen and you should continue to mine in the pool.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: gagalady on May 01, 2014, 03:13:46 PM
Congratulations for finding your first block If I'm correct? If you just been solo mining :P But don't worry this is still a good achievement in your Bitcoin mining journey  :)


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: dmeter on May 01, 2014, 03:38:41 PM
i dont say anything look picture


http://s22.postimg.org/3uct0tbfh/block1.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/3uct0tbfh/)


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: TheRealSteve on May 01, 2014, 04:03:42 PM
i dont say anything look picture
200Ghash/s - that's only, oh, 600 times faster than a Block Erupter ;)  Still, pretty lucky!


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Icon on May 01, 2014, 04:07:36 PM
that's nice n all but come back when you can do this...

https://blockchain.info/address/1DHEvQHvo6zFYbTJJ3JBqF31QxVoyCHWtL




and this less than a week later...

https://blockchain.info/address/1G7kqcnzVecarQwjK2FLHxXgmQWPMy1uYj


Yes, yes i know i am tooting my own horn..

BEEEP!


The really sad part is i don't own them anymore.. seems like it says in my sig, i de-invested when i thought i was investing :(

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PS

And all that was done with a mere 54 mh/s thanks to my well paid for 10000 times over ATI 5670 GPU FTW!



Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: C.Steven on May 01, 2014, 04:53:18 PM
that's nice n all but come back when you can do this...

https://blockchain.info/address/1DHEvQHvo6zFYbTJJ3JBqF31QxVoyCHWtL




and this less than a week later...

https://blockchain.info/address/1G7kqcnzVecarQwjK2FLHxXgmQWPMy1uYj


Yes, yes i know i am tooting my own horn..

BEEEP!


The really sad part is i don't own them anymore.. seems like it says in my sig, i de-invested when i thought i was investing :(

Icon

PS

And all that was done with a mere 54 mh/s thanks to my well paid for 10000 times over ATI 5670 GPU FTW!



Wow, you were incredibly lucky for finding 2 blocks with a GPU in 2013. :)


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Jcw188 on May 01, 2014, 04:56:49 PM
That's the price you pay for mining in the pools.  You could have risked it, and found the block with a  large payout, but PROBABLY never gotten anything in 50 years.  So it is cool, but you might as well stay in the pool since that was probably the one block you'll find in your lifetime.  And I doubt anyone will "donate" to you, not sure why they would?


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: lif3 on May 01, 2014, 06:03:12 PM
wow, I want to get back into this lottery now XD


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Mobius7 on May 02, 2014, 12:28:00 AM
That in and of itself is not a big deal.  What is rather cool however, is that I'm mining with a single Block Erupter that I bought on eBay for $300.  My hash rate hovers around 38 Gh/s.  That means of the current Total Hash Rate of 55,000 TH/s or so, I represent a scant 0.069091%.  I didn't just find a block, I crushed it with a share value of 15.6G.  Was I solo mining?  Hell no.

Congrats for finding a block.
Don't feel bad about doing pool mining, as it is exactly working as intended "share the luck, lower the variance" :)


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Gyfts on May 02, 2014, 01:20:20 AM
Congratulations man. Pretty impressive stuff but solo mining probably is better.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Bitcoin Magazine on May 02, 2014, 02:42:12 AM
Dear fellow miners,

That in and of itself is not a big deal.  What is rather cool however, is that I'm mining with a single Block Erupter that I bought on eBay for $300.  My hash rate hovers around 38 Gh/s.  That means of the current Total Hash Rate of 55,000 TH/s or so, I represent a scant 0.069091%.  I didn't just find a block, I crushed it with a share value of 15.6G.  Was I solo mining?  Hell no.  I'm contributing a minuscule amount of work to the Eligius pool.  Nevertheless, there is my block.  Height 298,562. See? Lightning can and does strike.  If any of you feel bad about the fact that earned +0.00016263 BTC instead of 25 BTC for my efforts, my address is 19cK8nHieqXxZbWoYFSdSgm2Q3Cb5CEPN6  Donations welcome!!

Happy Mining!,
Tony  

i don't despise you, but only wizards deserve the 25/50 BTC.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: googlemaster1 on May 02, 2014, 11:48:38 PM
You did what most smalltime miners mining in a pool would love to have done, for no monetary reward in it whatsoever.

You can always know that YOU mined that block.  I have 2 TH/S and have not hit my own block yet.  I mine on a pool, but that would be an exciting day for me, I'd probably remember that block number the rest of my life :) hahaha.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on May 03, 2014, 02:52:28 PM
You do remember it :)

297777 was mine.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: lqyd on May 03, 2014, 03:44:06 PM
Grats! I'm starting to think people with low hashrates should just solo mine. Either you get nothing or you get 25 BTC! 
Better than making pennies in a pool.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Pony789 on May 03, 2014, 06:13:54 PM
Grats! I'm starting to think people with low hashrates should just solo mine. Either you get nothing or you get 25 BTC! 
Better than making pennies in a pool.

True. Especially when you need to mine for months to reach the min payout of your pool. :)


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: ttyson on May 04, 2014, 01:14:54 AM
Yeah,

A couple more difficulty hikes and the rounding error will make this unit only good for solo mining or a doorstop.  Fortunately, I pay a flat rate for utilities from my landlord so I'll just let it run solo.

Happy mining!

Tony


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: serje on May 04, 2014, 03:03:21 AM
Grats! I'm starting to think people with low hashrates should just solo mine. Either you get nothing or you get 25 BTC! 
Better than making pennies in a pool.
The problem with solo mining is that you never feel completely sure that everything is configured properly. There's always this uncomfortable nagging feeling that you might be running your miner all day with zero chance of ever finding a block.
this is exactly how i feel when i solo mine....the What if scenario.  what if i screwed up and i find a block and because the config isn't right you lose the 25 BTC. Ughh that would suck.

I use Bitsolo.net but the question always comes up will they pay if i find a block?
hmmm I might start mining there ... with my 5Mh I will surley die before I find a block :)


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Pony789 on May 04, 2014, 04:57:50 AM
Grats! I'm starting to think people with low hashrates should just solo mine. Either you get nothing or you get 25 BTC! 
Better than making pennies in a pool.
The problem with solo mining is that you never feel completely sure that everything is configured properly. There's always this uncomfortable nagging feeling that you might be running your miner all day with zero chance of ever finding a block.
this is exactly how i feel when i solo mine....the What if scenario.  what if i screwed up and i find a block and because the config isn't right you lose the 25 BTC. Ughh that would suck.

I use Bitsolo.net but the question always comes up will they pay if i find a block?
hmmm I might start mining there ... with my 5Mh I will surley die before I find a block :)

5MH/s? You are using CPU to mine bitcoin? :o


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Hunterbunter on May 05, 2014, 03:35:43 AM
Dear fellow miners,

That in and of itself is not a big deal.  What is rather cool however, is that I'm mining with a single Block Erupter that I bought on eBay for $300.  My hash rate hovers around 38 Gh/s.  That means of the current Total Hash Rate of 55,000 TH/s or so, I represent a scant 0.069091%.  

What makes it even more awesome is that you actually represent 0.000069091% of the network. The current hash rate is in TH/s, and you're in GH/s.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: erono on May 05, 2014, 04:14:18 AM
Technically speaking, you can just get lucky and solve for a hash in your first try. It's very unlikely, but it is possible to myunderstanding.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Coef on May 05, 2014, 04:15:52 AM
Technically speaking, you can just get lucky and solve for a hash in your first try. It's very unlikely, but it is possible to myunderstanding.


Yes, statistically speaking it is possible, but the possibility is so low that no one has imagined it.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: vipgelsi on May 05, 2014, 04:19:00 AM
Dear fellow miners,

That in and of itself is not a big deal.  What is rather cool however, is that I'm mining with a single Block Erupter that I bought on eBay for $300.  My hash rate hovers around 38 Gh/s.  That means of the current Total Hash Rate of 55,000 TH/s or so, I represent a scant 0.069091%.  I didn't just find a block, I crushed it with a share value of 15.6G.  Was I solo mining?  Hell no.  I'm contributing a minuscule amount of work to the Eligius pool.  Nevertheless, there is my block.  Height 298,562. See? Lightning can and does strike.  If any of you feel bad about the fact that earned +0.00016263 BTC instead of 25 BTC for my efforts, my address is 19cK8nHieqXxZbWoYFSdSgm2Q3Cb5CEPN6  Donations welcome!!

Happy Mining!,
Tony  

AMazing and way better then playing the lotto.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Haskel85 on May 08, 2014, 10:15:21 AM
congratulations


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: micky123 on May 08, 2014, 04:55:01 PM
I was inspired by the OP and setup solo mining on my graphics card. The software i am using is cuda miner. It now says "stratum detected new block", does this mean that i have found a block? If yes, should i focus more mining power to the miner so it mines the block?


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on May 08, 2014, 05:02:13 PM
I was inspired by the OP and setup solo mining on my graphics card. The software i am using is cuda miner. It now says "stratum detected new block", does this mean that i have found a block? If yes, should i focus more mining power to the miner so it mines the block?

No, you haven't found a block.  It means that your mining software has been informed there's a new block on which it needs to work.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: ILikeMagicBeans on May 08, 2014, 07:30:57 PM
Grats! I'm starting to think people with low hashrates should just solo mine. Either you get nothing or you get 25 BTC! 
Better than making pennies in a pool.

Agreed, its a bit like playing the lottery :)


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: PublicP2poolNode on May 09, 2014, 04:34:03 AM
I have two bfl units, one is a 30 gh that I have been trying to find a block solo mining since December 2013 and 523 million is the highest it has found, my other 230 gh unit I mine on p2pool with.

Couldn't stomach solo mining with both of them as I'd rather have a little of something than a lot of nothing.

Thanks for sharing, gives me renewed hope that it still is possible!


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: BSIG on May 09, 2014, 06:41:41 AM
Good there is hope for people wanting a payout.





Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: micky123 on May 09, 2014, 02:42:17 PM
I was inspired by the OP and setup solo mining on my graphics card. The software i am using is cuda miner. It now says "stratum detected new block", does this mean that i have found a block? If yes, should i focus more mining power to the miner so it mines the block?

No, you haven't found a block.  It means that your mining software has been informed there's a new block on which it needs to work.
Lol! I guess i am not as lucky as i thought i was. Well, keep the faith i suppose!? :)


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: jonnybravo0311 on May 09, 2014, 02:56:50 PM
I was inspired by the OP and setup solo mining on my graphics card. The software i am using is cuda miner. It now says "stratum detected new block", does this mean that i have found a block? If yes, should i focus more mining power to the miner so it mines the block?

No, you haven't found a block.  It means that your mining software has been informed there's a new block on which it needs to work.
Lol! I guess i am not as lucky as i thought i was. Well, keep the faith i suppose!? :)

Absolutely!  It's why I solo mine.  Chances are I'll never find that block, but why not try?  It costs virtually nothing to do so (5 Antminer U2s driven by an rPi).


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: left-ca on May 09, 2014, 09:14:47 PM
did you get a block finding bonus?


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: miffman on May 10, 2014, 06:40:58 PM
It's interesting how mining can be very profitable for some and just a complete let down for others  ;D Congrats on being part of the lucky ones. I would invest in mining just to know that I mined a block  ;D


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: DotSauce on May 10, 2014, 06:43:52 PM
Better odds than the lottery, eh? :D Maybe this will become a popular thing as diff increases. I'd like to here a story of someone solo mining a block.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: JamesSchofield on May 10, 2014, 11:58:32 PM
Yeah so technically you havent found a block. The pool has and you would of likely not found the same block solo.
It was a team effort I'm afraid.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: TheRealSteve on May 11, 2014, 12:18:55 AM
Yeah so technically you havent found a block. The pool has and you would of likely not found the same block solo.
It was a team effort I'm afraid.

You are correct that they would not have found that same block, since they're not the originator of that block, but I think you're mistaken in the 'team effort part'.
Technically, they did find that block.  They way it works (roughly) is that the pool effectively collects the transactions and creates the block to be solved, that block includes the information on where payment should go (to the pool).  Each individual miner at a pool tries to solve that block, submitting solutions that fall within the pool's accepted range (for share counting).  If a miner happens to have a solution that not only falls within the pool's accepted range, but the network's accepted range (i.e. solved the block), that's when the network broadcasts it to collect the reward.  The odds of a miner solving a block at a pool is pretty much just as good as when mining solo (assuming the same parameters - i.e. some coins have different difficulties and you can often configure things at the pool to get more difficult blocks if you've got a fast miner, yielding a higher payout to you).  It's just that with the low odds, it's often better to mine at a pool and get a relatively steady fractional reward than it is to try solo mining - until the odds get so bad that said fraction at a pool is negligible and you really might as well solo mine if you can stand to burn the electricity.
A 'team effort' would involve each miner contributing a small part of the solution, and that's just not how Bitcoin mining works; Either you find a solution, or you don't.  It's really an individual effort, just one that is hugely parallellized, which increases the odds for the group (and most importantly, the pool), but does nothing for the individual.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: PeterReid on May 11, 2014, 01:47:07 AM
Dear fellow miners,

That in and of itself is not a big deal.  What is rather cool however, is that I'm mining with a single Block Erupter that I bought on eBay for $300.  My hash rate hovers around 38 Gh/s.  That means of the current Total Hash Rate of 55,000 TH/s or so, I represent a scant 0.069091%.  I didn't just find a block, I crushed it with a share value of 15.6G.  Was I solo mining?  Hell no.  I'm contributing a minuscule amount of work to the Eligius pool.  Nevertheless, there is my block.  Height 298,562. See? Lightning can and does strike.  If any of you feel bad about the fact that earned +0.00016263 BTC instead of 25 BTC for my efforts, my address is 19cK8nHieqXxZbWoYFSdSgm2Q3Cb5CEPN6  Donations welcome!!

Happy Mining!,
Tony  

The odds of finding a block solo without decent hash rate are pretty low. But if you like the Lotto then happy days.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Icon on May 11, 2014, 01:59:47 AM
I'd like to here a story of someone solo mining a block.

read first page of this OP i not only found 1 but 2 under a week SOLO mining..

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Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: sgbett on May 12, 2014, 09:59:43 AM
me toooooo  ;D  270578 (https://blockchain.info/block/0000000000000003faa305d4698c4d71c59c7f348212e8fe83ad5ad53fc88f06)


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: PeterReid on May 12, 2014, 08:57:33 PM
Shame it wasnt solo, 25 whole Bitcoins  ;D


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Icon on May 12, 2014, 11:17:31 PM
Shame it wasnt solo, 25 whole Bitcoins  ;D


"No Inputs (Newly Generated Coins)"
Correct me if i am wrong but that is solo.. that wasn't done by a pool mining

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Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: razorfishsl on May 15, 2014, 11:36:55 PM
Shame it wasnt solo, 25 whole Bitcoins  ;D


"No Inputs (Newly Generated Coins)"
Correct me if i am wrong but that is solo.. that wasn't done by a pool mining

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Nope!!!
Even a mining pool can generate such input ,depending on how/where the coins are from, I have loads of these from 'http://eligius.st/'

An example:
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/67ee6cd44596cdfdd9d15389485dbd1a10827fe4109b72cc03a140309d45e535

Ideally this is how all mining income should show up, pool or solo, however if you consider that pools have to deal with offline wallets and cold storage…

RF



Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: WayForward on May 16, 2014, 04:40:57 AM
Mine something with low difficulty and you will see them all the time.

I generally wont think about solomining for blocks if the dif is past my threshold or a couple of hours.

But it was the best feeling ever to see my first block ever for any coin.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: gtraah on May 16, 2014, 04:53:27 AM
You know what I may just chuck something on and let it mine away and just forget about it for the next year or so and come back to see what happen :P

Never know Whats the cheapest semi-ok little miner that doesnt use toooo much power..

50gh will do Any usb do this"?


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: TheRealSteve on May 16, 2014, 11:20:08 AM
Never know Whats the cheapest semi-ok little miner that doesnt use toooo much power..

50gh will do Any usb do this"?
None of the small form factor ones, you'd have to get one that requires a dedicated external power supply.  If you want to stay with the small miners, then...

The hex•fury and NF6 would be your best bet for raw power at hash rates between 10Ghash/s and 14Ghash/s (and both practically need a powered USB hub), but have prices to match (NF6 not yet commercially available).
The Antminer U2 is your best bet for getting decent hashing power for cheap and can be bought just about anywhere.
The Block Erupter USB is your best bet for low cost ($5), but they have very low hash rates.
The Twin Chip Fury is probably the best 'middle ground' one, decent hashing speed, reasonable power use, and available at several reputable stores.
Check out the StickMiners thread for an overview.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: adaseb on May 25, 2014, 10:37:50 AM
I know what you mean. I had the same situation happen. Mining for a few days and found a block and then a week or two later found another block.

Grrr. I actually wish I never knew it was me.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: kuusj98 on May 25, 2014, 10:50:51 AM
Congrats bro!

Back in the day when you got loads of BTC with a CPU  :'(
2 years back i'd take the gamble and went solo, now it's just not possible anymore, or very hard to do :P


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: glen123 on May 25, 2014, 10:51:37 AM
Hi !


hooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyy shit ;-)

But i am sitting infront of the Computer with sweating Hands cause i try mine solo with bitsolo.net and i found one .

I really hope this site isnt scam .

I know that a have to mine solo with my wallet and i was only looking at google for an howto, the i found the site


Pressing fingers for me that i get the payout !

Take a look here :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bs842b73s7ovnoa/bitsolo.jpg


A real solo Mined Block after 5 mins starting , thats  Lottery Luck

Greetings Glen


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: TheRealSteve on May 25, 2014, 02:39:33 PM
Looks like a glitch, even though it says a block was found, the share appears to be too low.  Try updating to the latest cgminer.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: dailey123 on May 25, 2014, 11:02:40 PM
i never found a block solo mining only in pools with my 1x7970


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Taras on May 28, 2014, 10:41:55 PM
If someone finds a block for a pool, they should not feel taken advantage of.
If they were solo mining instead, they wouldn't have won the block because the bitcoin address used to receive the new bitcoins would be replaced and therefore produce a completely different merkle root, meaning a completely different block hash. A hash with a bunch of leading zeroes for one payout address would become just another boring hash for a different payout address.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: iglasses on May 29, 2014, 01:30:28 PM
After mining since last November, now throwing 2+Ths into the network I found one!  Happened sometime in last 12 hours but I'm not even sure what device found it yet.
Wild.

BestShare
427,176,762,040


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: DolanDuck on May 29, 2014, 04:00:29 PM
Yep if you have only a couple of block erupters you should solo mine, the probability of finding a block is like winning at the lottery, but if you win, you win high.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: snaildvorak on June 05, 2014, 07:38:03 AM
I thought you were solo mining!
I know that feel bro :'(


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Bitcoin Magazine on June 08, 2014, 02:35:47 AM
Dear fellow miners,

That in and of itself is not a big deal.  What is rather cool however, is that I'm mining with a single Block Erupter that I bought on eBay for $300.  My hash rate hovers around 38 Gh/s.  That means of the current Total Hash Rate of 55,000 TH/s or so, I represent a scant 0.069091%.  I didn't just find a block, I crushed it with a share value of 15.6G.  Was I solo mining?  Hell no.  I'm contributing a minuscule amount of work to the Eligius pool.  Nevertheless, there is my block.  Height 298,562. See? Lightning can and does strike.  If any of you feel bad about the fact that earned +0.00016263 BTC instead of 25 BTC for my efforts, my address is 19cK8nHieqXxZbWoYFSdSgm2Q3Cb5CEPN6  Donations welcome!!

Happy Mining!,
Tony  
Your on my good list.  U get 50 btc


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Harley997 on June 11, 2014, 02:50:39 AM
Yeah so technically you havent found a block. The pool has and you would of likely not found the same block solo.
It was a team effort I'm afraid.

The chances of finding a block solomining with a block erupter is so slim it is ridiculous


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: mysidia on June 13, 2014, 05:40:14 AM
The pools really ought to give some small reward to the miner who found the block, such as an extra 0.1BTC  for being the lucky finder of the block.

Otherwise....  all the small time miners  are better off witholding and discarding the block that they solved,  instead of sharing with the network; in case they do find the solution..   so although the pool as a whole will be slightly less profitable...  lower network difficulty, that way :)


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Harley997 on June 14, 2014, 12:19:56 AM
The pools really ought to give some small reward to the miner who found the block, such as an extra 0.1BTC  for being the lucky finder of the block.

Otherwise....  all the small time miners  are better off witholding and discarding the block that they solved,  instead of sharing with the network; in case they do find the solution..   so although the pool as a whole will be slightly less profitable...  lower network difficulty, that way :)

What good would the small time miners be doing for themselves if they withheld a block? Ignoring the fact that most small miners would not have the technical inclination as to how to withhold blocks, they would still lose out over the long run as they would receive a lower amount of payouts. 


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: mysidia on June 14, 2014, 03:38:58 AM
they would still lose out over the long run as they would receive a lower amount of payouts. 

If your mining operation is a block eruptor.... you have nothing to lose.
A "lower amount of payouts" from nearly zero, is hardly distinguishable from nearly zero.    Many of the pools have a mechanism such as pay per share, so the withholder doesn't lose any payouts  even if the pool is strangely 'unlucky'.

They're paid just by "proving" they are working on the solution.

Without an extra kickback for providing the solution when they find it, however... the pool operator, and the majority of the miners need the solution to be found early a LOT  more than the individual miner does.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: thejewelrytech on June 15, 2014, 04:54:06 PM
Grat's on finding a block especially since also mining on Elig you helped us all ;D I found a block with one of my eruptors back in december but it was also during pool mining and wished it was solo hehe But at the end of the day you can truly say You Made Bitcoin and there's a piece of you in 25 bitcoins added too the infrastructure with your name on it and made a difference! You did your part to contribute for Everybody and Bitcoin as a Whole!That alone is Priceless and a good feeling as you contributed and helped make Bitcoin work ! not everybody  can actually say they did do it but only tried? ;)


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: Harley997 on June 17, 2014, 01:43:27 AM
they would still lose out over the long run as they would receive a lower amount of payouts. 

If your mining operation is a block eruptor.... you have nothing to lose.
A "lower amount of payouts" from nearly zero, is hardly distinguishable from nearly zero.    Many of the pools have a mechanism such as pay per share, so the withholder doesn't lose any payouts  even if the pool is strangely 'unlucky'.

They're paid just by "proving" they are working on the solution.

Without an extra kickback for providing the solution when they find it, however... the pool operator, and the majority of the miners need the solution to be found early a LOT  more than the individual miner does.

If you had a block eurpter then you would be loosing out anyway as your electric costs would exceed your revenue.

We can ignore the fact that the chances of a block eurper finding a block are slim to none.

You also have the ethical issue that when you are mining on a pool you are essentially promising that you will provide the pool with work that your miner does and in return the pool gives you payment based on your shares. If the work your miner does involves finding a block then that work is due the pool.


Title: Re: Holy crap I found a block!
Post by: boliu on June 18, 2014, 02:33:11 PM
wow, congrats, I think new pools should be created to reward block founder a FULL bitcoin and the rest divided normally, so everybody take a share of 24 BTC and give the remaining BTC to the block founder.