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finally you decided you will distribute to all ,  lol . wow , with ipo.......

you know ,you have over 99.5% of all coins before , no one will play with you just only some pool guys..

but now ,you'd better show all your whitepaper ,if you really fix all bug of NXT ,maybe you can keep up with nfd .

No thanks. to late.

It's neither that we finally decided, nor that we need the BTC as the accounting post in our forum shows.
We said we'll offer that possibility, and here it is - take it or not, this doesn't influence our further dedication.

alright, but no thanks.

german thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=593392.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=593392.0)

You have all the statistics in urls above, read those before you come up with your own statistics. "The bugs of NXT" as you call it, is fixed. The source code is available for public. We were actually the first one to release a fully working fork of NXT and it has been running for over a month. Come-from-beyond even joined us the second day we released the currency and we have talked about these injected flaws and other bugs.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Instead of making a fool out of your self, please contribute, or not.

Kind regards

NHZ value can only subjectively be based on the cost of running a node, which can be purchased for about 5 USD per month, or say 10 USD per month (to account for personal maintenance costs). At 666 NHZ per day or about 20,000 NHZ per month, this equates to 0.05 USD per 100 NHZ or about 500 USD per 1 million NHZ. So...

1 bitcoin for 1 million NHZ ?

what happened to those node thing ???
its no good to change the way of distribution after launch.

We haven't changed a thing. The node bounties are still being paid (unchanged).
We are only selling a small percentage of the coins to get on an exchange sooner.
And we have told you guys about that possibility right from the start! :)

This is a PoS coin with a 3 year distribution but with 'green' mining :)

My home PC is quietly earning 666 a day and I know I don't need to go buy a faster PC or an ASIC next month to keep earning 666 :D

Hope the sale goes well and I look forward to seeing some of the other developments.

I think its a good idea to sell some percentage of coins to make distribution fast, what will be the price? how many total coins per person can buy?

I am in. what would be the price?

5% only for sale, and 95% for bounties, development and building of infrastructure. Nice :)

I've seen you guys working since the very beginning and I am very happy to see you keep to the plan and don't go for the big bucks and try to work out something that will be sustainable.

Keeping an eye on this one Nxt clone that seems to try to do their own thing and doesn't give too much of a damn about what other people think.

The chinese translation is done.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=593471.msg6513164#msg6513164

nxt again

what can i do for you?

The price will be about 100 000 NHZ for 0.1 BTC.

The poll for the donations was created: http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php/topic,97.0.html

I get each day 666NHZ running my node. I like this distribution method.

Next Horizon is well-running now for almost one month almost without problems.
NHZ is really existing and not only in the brains of any devs.

The idea of selling a small amount of coins is good! Great work!

Intresting.

release your source code so we can check whether you fixed the bugs ..

I think the dev should reward the nodes which are on line for a long time..

yes, every day 666coin, it is good.

but I think if there are no the nodes which are on line for a long time,  noone will play with you..


and you IPO is so much.... i do not think it is so right...

 i'm pleased to hear that.

good work.

We are on github (https://github.com/NeXTHorizon/)

escrow available for the sale?

No - but if you don't trust us, why would you want the coins anyway?

So you clone NXT and then morph yourselves into RippleLabs2. Nice :)

Can I get a job? I want to do blow out of a hookers ass crack too. You guys want to get rich without any effort, don't you!

Can someone just copy the bot distribution idea and increase the bounty to 5000 per day!

Add some accountability and the bot distro idea could really work, but this gordon gecko version needs to die.

Because some people might be interested but unsure. How about you send me some NHZ first and then I'll send you bitcoins, agreed? :)

Hi

We have no plans of increasing node bounty.

No, sorry, this is not an option.

Regards

I think the dev should reward the nodes which are on line for a long time..

yes, every day 666coin, it is good.

but I think if there are no the nodes which are on line for a long time,  noone will play with you..


and you IPO is so much.... i do not think it is so right...

Yes, The distribution shall speed up.
I will follow this thread.

so how can I get the coins?

Any updates yet regarding the sale?

Yes, the sale is now live at http://invest.nhzcrypto.org/ (http://invest.nhzcrypto.org/)

all gone? thats a joke?

After 2 minutes: the maximum amount you can buy is 0 NHZ  >:(

It says that it will get filled up again. The total amount that will be sold is 18.8M. We are just testing with smaller amounts right now.
Keep calm. :p

But this is very boring  :(

"API down, please try again later"


I will tray tomorrow again.

Yeah some users are refreshing like crazy and reserving all the funds without then paying (and receiving) :/
We are working on it!

I am out for today.
I think you don't sale all today, no?

maybe first get all the bids and then distribute the coins after approving

coins appear and disappear in micro seconds

1B of total coins ,and sell 100SAT ? i can not accept.

think about nas , nfd and other coins base on nxt , hnz is highest price for IPO , that means only dev can get the benefit from it but not investor..

0.1 SAT , maybe just it.....

forget it , i'd rather to invest nfd.....more chance for all investor..

Definitely not, we will fill up the account over several days, so everyone gets a chance

you put a small amount everytime and some whale is grabbing all the coins

Sir, I need to clear this up for you. The development team is working for bountys as well. We do NOT recieve any of the BTC from this sale. The BTC is going to fund servers and development. We have also made this clear in the announcment. All BTC will be accounted so you can see for you selfs, where they are going too.

Kind regards

please put all the coins for sale in one go

We still have to iron out some bugs and we are upgrading to a better server, so it will take some time for more to be sold.

wow 1 guy is just buying all the coins after they come up, thats not even close to a fair distribution in my eyes.

if not distributed widely, coin will be dead before it launches on exchanges

how you know one guy is buying all the coins?

it could be the dev trying to show there was a huge demand and when it hits exchanges he will dump them all

what gives you the idea? we are not putting up any coins for sale right now because we are still fixing bugs


don't be silly. nobody is trying anything here. we just didn't know that we would need a bigger server for this. we are working on it. not trying to give you the idea that the demand is high or something like that. please think before you type :/

This Coin is not trustworthy! They don't know anything about accounting and transparency required for a new coin!

Be careful guys!

http://invest.nhzcrypto.org/  Page can not be opened. "API down, please try again later"

What other news?

It will take a while. We are all humans and can't work 24 hours a day. Well, at least not multiple days in a row. Please bear with us.


Bla. http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php?topic=3.0
Bla. http://explorer.nhzcrypto.org/?page=accounts
Bla.

36hrs ago I set up a second node with a different hallmark for the same NHZ address. But tonight I got paid only once. Is it possible to test if a given IP/Host is "working"? I saw there was a testing site for that purpose but I just lost the link...

why are you posting here, when you can't read?
how can you even write if you're not able to read simple sentences?
speech-input?

thanks guys you are really being helpful :)




Exactly. And we also have a log channel for the Server Bounty System on freenode (IRC) in ##nhz-sbs :)

Thanks! My node seems not to work. I have it on another port than 7774, the conf file gives the impression that this should work, doesn't it?

This does work but not for the bounty, sorry.

Hi!

Please take non sale specific questions in our main thread.

UPDATE: We have some problems with our VPS provider that is handeling the sale, this will be solved in a few hours, max. So stay tuned.

we should send some giveways to attact more people to know the coin,

http://faucet.nhzcrypto.org

is that 12 hrs time before I should make payment?

If the transaction isn't visible to our Bitcoin client 6 hours after submitting the order, the reservation is canceled.

Good to see this!
I don't think that it's enough transparency but good to see that.
Hope you success.

Running smooth since 12 hours, first stats:

"available":752500
"reserved":1310001
"sold":2937499

9 outgoing transactions, 7 recipients. transaction details: http://blocks.nhzcrypto.org/?page=account&id=12148568082895187378

what happened to those node thing Huh
its no good to change the way of distribution after launch.

how many more coins remaining for sale?

The sale doesn't affect the bounties and was planned and announced right from the start. It's only 2% of all NHZ, and the BTC will be spent transparently on server costs. Any other potential other expenses (advertising, external developers, ...) will be discussed on our forum. What isn't spent that way will be donated (10% right after the sale, you can vote for the recipients here (http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php?topic=97.0))


The total is 18.8M, so ~14M

if sale goes at this speed then it should be over in next 2 days.

what are the exchanges you talking to list NHZ?

We want it to last longer, the coins won't be added that fast for long. We'll add smaller amounts soon.

For the start we contacted bittrex, poloniex and dgex. Bittrex seems to plan to delist NXT soon and isn't interested in forks of it, the other two didn't answer yet.
We got an offer from nxt-e, but they wanted 10% of all NHZ, and after we checked their volume we laughed and decided to ignore it.

We plan to contact bter, but it's wise to have someone chinese do that because they are really slow in answering english mails. I know someone who already had a contact with them, but I didn't reach him today.

Can someone recommend any other exchanges?

you forgot mintpal?

Busoni, the poloniex guy is very aggressive. he will definitely add the coin.

dgex and nxt-e are worst. Nas got killed itself by listing in these exchanges. that's because the whole process of depositing btc/nas, trading and withdrawing btc/nas took minimum 30 hours.

We didn't see NXT at mintpal, so we left them beside for this round...

I bought my NXT at dgex, that's been a while ago and my only experience with them - I heard they'd demand a bounty comparable to what nxt-e wanted, and before we pay that we open our own exchange :P

don't know how dgex deals with devs. but as an user, I say they are dacoits. they deduct between 1.4 - 2.8% and take 3 - 48 hrs for BTC withdrawals. some users have experience of delayed withdrawals of 4 days.

BTER usually doesn't add a coin on launch. Poloniex is the only best option. It has got quite a large number of user base. It has got NXT and NAS already listed. so adding NHZ wouldn't be difficult for him

Polo's NXT volume is laughingly low....I think we should shoot for BTER (and Polo as a second). I've used BTER for my NXT trades without hitch (but their fees are a bit high).

Status update:

"available":300000
"reserved":20001
"sold":5279999

after 48 hours:
"available":915990
"reserved":100010
"sold":5984000

24 transactions, 15 unique accounts

why is the sale going slow?

Because we want everyone to be able to get a piece of the cake.

"available":1500000
"reserved":237000
"sold":9763000

it is selling like hot cakes.
You guys should deliver something decent.

whats the guarantee that you will not dump the remaining 90%+ coins after listing?

no guarantees, just promises and good intentions  :P

Im trying to understand what you mean? Our purpose is defined at page 1 in this thread? Is this just some random quote so you can increese your number of posts?

how is the sale different from ipo? even after the sale you are still left with 95% of the coins. that's a bit of worry.

The difference is that we have a running product. You invest partly in what already exists. NHZ has been traded freely on the market already.
In an IPO you do not see the product.. it is just words and promises. Also it has not been traded. Investors get their funds on launch. I hope you understand it better now.
If you have any more questions just ask. I suggest that you google IPO though.

We, the developers, have not yet taken out any form of compensation for our work. The funds of this sale will solely go to the development of this currency and does not belong to any of the developers. We have soon reached 12 BTC of funds.

Therefore I have decided to sell a small set of my private funds because of my private need for some btc and the fact that i have (among others) worked many many hours for this currency.

I can sell somewhat cheaper than the sale, 0.9 btc per 1M NHZ. Probably will sell no more than 1M.

PM me if interested.

Money from sale will be used for development. So you will get paid in the future, right?
Also curios what bounties you got or how many nodes you run to be able to trade "per 1M" - what implies you have multiple millions of NHZ. Sounds like you already got paid  ::)

Don't get me wrong: I like to see the devs paid for their work. But I don't like seeing them paid while saying they don't...


Btw: Where is the source so we can see what you developed beside a logo and a name replace?

Not any of the developers in the core development team will be paid in BTC. Everyone in the core development team is working for bountys, the same as for everyone else.

Yes i have several millions of NHZ.

Asking for the source clearly states that you have no idea what so ever about this currency, sorry for being this honest. It also shows that you have read absolutly nothing from the first page in this thread nor our main thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=551666.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=551666.0))

Im not trying to flip you off, and forgive me if im too honest.

that's the point ,no one can promise dev will not sell NHZ in any time, do not forget ,dev have more than 99% NHZ.
so i think NHZ is very danger as to investors , it not like NXT or  NAS , the dev of NXT and NAS ,they just keep a little of coin ,but NHZ keeps almost all..

Please help me...you say in post #7 the source is available for public. But in fact on github are only binaries. Also, a topic wide search for the term "source" has no valuable result.

Thank you

Your numbers are wrong. Read through what we have written before you make statements., please.

Regards

Because you were in the "binaries" repository. :D https://github.com/NeXTHorizon/nhz-source

Lol, thank you! Didn't find this link anywhere. Seems like this repo needs an update to v2.2 though ;)

I think you sell NHT too expensive. Why not let market decide?

Done!


Wow dude, please try to read better. NHZ was traded freely before the sale. We let the market decide.

My offer still stands..

We, the developers, have not yet taken out any form of compensation for our work. The funds of this sale will solely go to the development of this currency and does not belong to any of the developers. We have reached 13.4 (update from earlier today) BTC of funds.

Therefore I have decided to sell a small set of my private funds because of my private need for some btc and the fact that i have (among others) worked many many hours for this currency.

I can sell somewhat cheaper than the sale, 0.9 btc per 1M NHZ.

PM me if interested.
Reply

Yes. We only get 'paid' in NHZ bounties like everyone else. We just got a bit more because the time we invested is significantly higher.
There are about 6 to 8 people working on NHZ and the developer bounty is noted here: http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php?topic=3.0
Just grab a calculator to know how much each of us got on average. :)

3 devs? Would be about 5m NHZ each or $2k. That's a bit more than nothing ;)

You say you got more bounties (each of you as much as the whole community together) because you put more more time into the project. So you can't say "We, the developers, have not yet taken out any form of compensation for our work" - it's just not true. It would be true if you got 0 bounties.

Again, no offense. It's totally legit to get a compensation for your work. But don't say you got none when facts prove the opposite.

I wrote a long answer for you.. but i stopped when i realized that you probably actually do understand, you somehow reminds me of people i have met in the past, many many times. People like to call them trolls, but i dont. Sorry sir, this arguing is over and will not continue (there is nothing to argue about) :) I wish you a pleasant day though..

There is no argue from my side. Neither is there trolling. I just want you to stop crying you didn't get any compensation so far as it's not true.

Besides that: interesting project, will follow :)

Uhm. I said about 6 to 8. But yeah, there are 3 "core" developers right now.

Also, sale stats update:

available: 1,036,200
sold: 14,063,800

4,736,200 to go, then it's over. last chance :)
Edit: 3,700,000 to go!


Remember to vote here on how much we should donate to which organization: http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php/topic,97.0.html

did any of the exchange reply to you?

No  :(

set up a vps for NHZ

Only 2.3M left until it's over!

"available":904700
"reserved":0
"sold":16595300

800k now :)

only 100K now!

Everything has been added - last chance  8)

Feeling is not very practical, is a little not credible
 :)

All gone now

That's it.

Don't forget to give your vote for the donation until thursday!
http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php?topic=97.0

sale is over. what now?

We will continue the development. We are currently installing a testnet. We will also buy redundancy for our web framework and more core hallmarks.

We do not rush anything. We are currently implementing what we see fit into NHZ from the latest NXT release.

We are here to stay and keep this going.

Regards

unless you accelerate, you will die like NAS

Without an active community every coin is doomed to die. Don't wait for us, help where you can. We have a list of bounty ideas here (http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php?topic=7.0), and own ideas are always welcome.

Why should people put a lot of effort in a coin which is even on an exchange? At the moment it just doesn't make sense to integrate it to crypto stores etc.
Move on an exchange and give it a value or let it die. It would be a pity  :-\

If we could just move on an exchange we would have already done that ;) We'll send another mail to the exchanges we already contacted soon.
If anyone can help with being added on a trustworthy exchange that'd also be worth a bounty...

//edit:
created a discussion about exchange bounties http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php?topic=121.0
please move the discussion to the announcement or into our forum, this thread has fulfilled its purpose

good idea for node set up

10% of the sale income (1.88 BTC, 840$) have been donated to internet and security related non-profits
http://forum.nhzcrypto.org/index.php?topic=97.msg508#msg508