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so here's the interview with his mistress.. she is such a liar. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/donald-sterlings-confidante-vstiviano-speaks-23574692?tab=9482931&section=4765066

yeah, she's been showered with money by a cheap old man, because he has a "father daughter relationship." in the tape, she calls him "honey" or "baby" .. that's not how a daughter speaks to her father.

this leads me to ask the question: is she intentionally acting this dumb so more people can speak about her? and if that is the case, then people like me just look dumb  :D

Who cares?

Why are you focussing on the girl involved? I'm sure she cares just as much about civil rights as she does about publicising herself, but the main issue here is the abhorrent and moronic shit Sterling was spouting off.

i find the politics behind it more interesting. it's already a bygone conclusion that sterling is a racist asshole.

I'd never heard of the guy until all this racism controversy. I don't understand how he can hold such opinions. Isn't 99% of his team black or something? Glad he got the bans though.

he's 80. people that old were probably raised with racism everywhere. it's been ingrained in him; that part isn't interesting to me though. as i said, the skank who banked on exposing him had planned this, and then she went on public TV to whore herself out some more.. all while lying. it's cray. it kinda sucks that people who whore themselves out get rewarded for it, but whatever. i guess she's just a playa.

Funny thing with racists, it doesn't seem to bother them when a young attractive female takes an interest in them. If she is a player, then well done to her, she played him good and proper and exposed him for what he really is. And maybe he was raised in a time where racism was more prevalent, but you'd think he would've got over that over the years being in a business where the majority of athletes are black.

well that's the thing.. racism is so ingrained in people like him that he doesn't even know he's racist. i truly believe that he thinks he is not racist. either way, that girl is just a plain skank looking to get attention. you'd think these old rich white dudes would know better than to trust a skank who is 50 years younger than you. i guess that's what happens when a hot girl pays attention to you. he's one cheapass motherfucker, yet he shelled out at least $2-3 million just for the sex.

this is how cheap he is: he wouldn't pay for a coaching staff member for his cancer treatment. he fired a head coach with a contract and refused to pay him (but eventually did after some litigation). he's also a prick in that he didn't want black people living in his apartments.

I still believe that the NBA response was out of proportion. Donald Sterling is forced to sell his NBA team, which will cause hundreds of millions of USD in loses to him. A lot of bad blood will prevail.

yeah, it was a bit harsh in my opinion. if he does sell, he will probably get lowballed.. not to mention capital gains taxes. he bought the clippers for 11.5 million and now it's worth at least 600 million.

Since it is a forced sale (auction-type), I don't think that he will get more than $300-400 million for it. So a net loss of $200-300 million. No one will be happy with that sort of loss.

disagree. there are many, many suitors and they would still have to compete amongst themselves. despite him being forced to sell, the demand for nba franchises is pretty high.

I have some doubts about this? Does Donald Sterling own 100% of the Clippers? Also, how much (percentage) of Capital gains tax he will have to pay, to the American tax authorities?

i read it would be a pretty heft tax. it says if he sold for 700 million, he'd have to pay 233ish million.

The price could go close to a Billion USD, since the team is in LA and winning now.
Even the crappy Mil Bucks sold for over $500 Million.

yeah, and since he bought it for pennies on the dollar, he could stand to lose 200-300 mllion from that alone. i think the NBA shouldn't have the autonomy to force a sale.

the news is also out that he is currently battling cancer, so the guy might die before the litigation is over.

The recording of prvt conversations is highly questionable
Having said that, if the NBA statutes allow them to force Sterling to sell out, that's worth doing
Sterling's an embarrassment

Litigation will be of no use to Donald Sterling. NBA acted according to their rules and Sterling has no argument here. Too bad.... he may get some $400-500 million after the taxes, which is not too bad IMO.

lol... one leaked phone call and a loss of $233 million. Be careful billionaires.  ;D

I still think he cant get out of this saga. This taped conversation can be interpreted in a multiple ways and his mistress motives behind it can potentially be their undoing in my view.

you do know that the nba's rules can be contested right? especially if they are misusing their powers. sterling is going to at the very least drag this one out.

i wonder what's going to happen if he ends up dying and his heirs receive the franchise.. would the league try to force his kids out? because that wouldn't be fair.

This is interesting:

He shouldn't be allowed to profit from it anymore. What would've been a better alternative solution?


What he said was highly questionable. Don't say stuff you don't want others to hear, especially a person in his position. I'm sure this isn't the first time he's said stuff like this. Maybe you might think recording people is questionable but I don't think so if they're doing wrong.

Well. There is a better solution. Remove his ownership, and give it to any of his children. Donald Sterling is already 80 years old, and he is not capable of looking after an NBA team. He has three children. Give the ownership to any one of them.

If that happened the money is still going to go back to him. People often sign over businesses to children or family members to avoid getting them seized or whatnot. He's still getting the money from the sale anyway. I'm sure the NBA might have a legal battle on their hands too. What exactly makes them the 'law' on this? Can he not challenge it?

I heard that he is not in good terms with his two-surviving children (Chris Sterling, and Joanna Sterling. His other son Scott Sterling died last year). So anyway... he will not agree to that proposal also.

i'm not an expert in law, but if he just "gave" that money to his kids, it would probably get taxed. so if the NBA forced him to "gift" his kids the franchise, it would still cost him millions.

http://blog.taxact.com/gift-tax-do-i-have-to-pay-gift-tax-when-someone-gives-me-money/

The NBA already said they do not want his family to own the team.
I think the owners will vote soon (on the forced sale), but I forget the date.

i think it's already unanimous that they are going to force him out. but the commisioner has already stated that he expects stern to take this to court; he's already told stern that the NBA is willing to fight the fight.

Donald Sterling’s “slippery slope”: The limits of our new anti-racist consensus

http://www.salon.com/2014/05/03/donald_sterlings_slippery_slope_the_limits_of_our_new_anti_racist_consensus

Good point about a “very, very slippery slope.”
Next up is trying to 'purge' people who are on the "wrong side" of the marriage issue. (Like the Firefox/Mozilla executive)
How about we remove the Gov't from marriage?

To be honest, I couldn't care much about what happens to somebody like him as long as it's non-violent, but this kind of thing just reminds me of the 'anti-fascist' movement protesting against the BNP here in the UK, in the end, they're using the exact same tactics they complain about. For those outside the U.S what happened to us awhile ago a bunch of protesters who were either calling themselves or being called 'anti-fascists' ( You'll notice I'm using sarcastic finger quotes here each time I write this ) were protesting against what are esentially neo-nazi's in the UK who were doing their own marches. They started going around breaking barricades and picking fights with people the exact same way the evil fascists did just because they were so far up their own assholes they thought they were justified in smashing shit up because of what other people had done.

So yeah, go ahead and boycott the asshole and make his live a misery, but the second people start making threats and start breaking stuff that's when the warning signals should get sent off and you should get out. You guys remember the Tottenham riots that happened in London recently as well? That originally started off as a peaceful protests but in the end a bunch of chavs decided "Hurr lets go break and steal shit" don't get suckered into these kind of petty fights started by hypocritical scumbags, they're just looking for somebody to pin things on later when it all calms down.

I realise this may not make much sense to the situation now, but you'll know what I'm talking about later on when people are looking to start riots over this sort of thing, yes, they're racist pricks, but don't take to the street with the morons who are just looking for a fight.

i like mark cuban and tend to agree with him. he's a racist asshole, but it's a slippery slope when the NBA gets too much power.

I don't know much about Mark Cuban, except the fact that he owns the Dallas Mavericks. Why you are calling him a racist? Has he ever made similar remarks as Donald Sterling did?

no, i mean i agree with mark cuban in saying that sterling was a racist. i wasn't clear with that. mark cuban is one of the billionaires who i don't think deserve to be on a shitlist; he does a lot of nice things for dallas mavericks fans and genuinely cares about the team winning. i think he probably cares about the team as much as he does making money off it. he's a shrewd, common sense guy.

NO WAY!!! Mark Cuban is awesome.

he is. and i think he's one of the best owners in the league. he's made some really good decisions, at least in my opinion, with the mavs franchises. decisions that most owners wouldn't have taken. instead of re-upping his 2011 championship team, he decided for a rebuild.. which was the right choice imo.

Donald Sterling sure is fucked, all around fucked. He's going to die now not as a legend but a rich racist loser. He was complaining about his little golddigger taking a picture with the legend Magic Johnson. I mean, he must really have some pent up aggression if he's going to flip out about a black guy with his chick when that black guy is one of the biggest names to ever play the sport he was involved on for most of his life!

So sad, I hope the other owners vote him out and sell off his stake. It would be awesome if someone like like Dennis Rodman or Jay-Z bought his portion!  
For sure Dennis is broke and cant afford it but Jay can! And he's owned a small portion of a basketball team before. I wouldn't be surprised if hes been reaching out to pick up Donalds part. He's going on tour with Beyoncé this year, average ticket price?? $336!! :) He can afford it.

Actually, I bet he's going to buy at least some of Donalds share.

Anyone want to give me some odds?

i think it's either magic's group or oprah's.

also, interestingly enough about stern.. he's also racist to whities. he didn't want to pay JJ reddick because "no white guy is worth that much money." he's a strange man who sees everything through the filter of race.

Apparently he's a SUPERBREAD of human. lol... But, Nah.. Magic cant take part in this, the comment spurred from pictures with him. I think professionally he'll stay away from this one.  And Oprah?? She buys NBA teams?

magic has already stated that he is open to the idea of purchasing the clippers. and there are rumors that oprah will team up with larry elison (i think he's the guy who made his fortune from oracle) to buy the clippers.

Oprah is the queen of big mouth phonies, why can't she stick with her failing cable network?
http://i.huffpost.com/gen/15784/thumbs/s-OPRAH-SCREAMING-large.jpg

Edit:
I probably should not have posted the screaming Oprah photo...sorry.

i don't like oprah that much either. imo she's in showbusiness for owning her own empire.

Source?

http://www.scpr.org/blogs/economy/2014/04/30/16510/magic-johnson-on-buying-clippers-i-think-the-fans/

10 Potential Candidates To Buy The L.A. Clippers
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2014/04/30/10-candidates-to-buy-the-l-a-clippers


So You've Decided to Buy the Los Angeles Clippers

But let’s say the NBA prevails and Sterling is forced to sell. Now you will be competing against the richest of the rich. This, more than anything about the specific finances of the Clippers, will drive the price. There are only 30 NBA teams, and only two located in the megalopolis of Los Angeles. Many teams have been in the same hands for decades, and the chance to buy is rare. Before the Milwaukee Bucks were sold for $550 million last month, Forbes valued the franchise at $405 million. The magazine values the Clippers at $575 million—and the team will almost certainly sell for closer to $1 billion.

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-05-02/so-youve-decided-to-buy-the-los-angeles-clippers

yep, this is basically what i said earlier in the thread. being in the LA market is big, so there will be plenty of bidders. it's funny how the owners during the last lockout were complaining about how they were barely squeezing by with all the money they have to pay out to the players, yet everybody wants to own an NBA franchise. that was just bullshit.

Of course, the "who is bidding now" will happen before, during, and after the court case(s)
This might remain unsettled even after the 2016 political elections....?

it will likely drag on, and if stern is battling cancer, he probably won't make it past the conclusion.. in which case his bequeathed will inherit the franchise. the NBA has said they want a sale and no inheritance - isn't that a bit extreme btw?

According to Forbes, Oprah Winfrey's net worth is around $3 billion. She could buy the LA Clippers on her own, without any partnership with other billionaires such as Larry Ellison.

Yes, when I first heard that it was a surprise.
The NBA doesn't want the "tainted" Sterling name on the team.

Running to the courts is no surprise, but I'd rather not see the Gov't getting too much power over pro sports.

depends where all that money is allocated.

I don't think age justifies racism in any form. On other hand racism controversies happens daily in professional sports. Real problem is I don't think this  "ban" would be legal one way or another. I bet people are just pissed since he was talking about Magic Johnson.


she would need to sell big part of her business first. I bet she doesn't keep necessary amount of money to buy it in cash. 

wtf? magic johnson doesn't have anything to do with the forced sale/repercussions. it's because he's black.

I very much doubt Oprah would shell out all that money on her own. Why we should even want to buy it? She's just probably getting involved in the whole debacle to have something to talk about.

probably because NBA franchises are extremely profitable. and you do know that it makes her a more interesting person right? there's some sort of allure that comes with being a celebrity and owning a franchise... and that only helps her profit even more.

I have no doubt that she'd be interested in putting in a relatively small ammount and being a part owner, but not buying it outright. She probably doesn't have the liquid cash to even do that.

Sweeeeeet.. Magic Johnson and the clippers.. I'd like to see that happen!

I don't think he can afford to buy LA Clippers. His net-worth is only(sic) around $500 million. Even if he is ready to invest 20% of his net-worth, I am afraid that he will have to contend with a 10% stake.

Hmmmm, so this guy gets recorded in is own home, nothing is sacred....Everyone so upset with racist comments.
And Everyone loves Magic Johnson because well you know.....only ran around giving women... a present..
-bobby

Anyone see that Barbara Walters interview with the girl? She seems like such an idiot. Pretty funny: http://youtu.be/nj9z3zPckjQ?t=47s

lol... the interview was funny. But I have a feeling that she was not behind the leakage of the telephone conversation. Don't have the brains to do that. Most probably, someone else who was close to Donald Sterling tapped the phone.

I can't see who else it could've been, but maybe she had some help in releasing it. I'm sure she knows the basics of gold-digging that's for sure.

LOL. I think this V whatever her name is almost as bad as Sterling. What was he even doing with her? It's not like she's really attractive or anything. She kinda looks goofy looking and clearly is pretty dense. I'm sure she'll have short-lived career as a d-list celebrity and do a few reality shows now.

I'm not actually sure what their relationship was as they both haven't really clarified and seem stand-offish on the subject, but whatever it was it seemed pretty weird. Regardless of the boundaries of their relationship it's easy to see what parts they were both playing. She's the young and (arguably) attractive gold-digger and he's just the silly old rich man bemused by her.

 ???

Do you expect someone like Jessica Alba to date a 80-year old fossil who has been diagnosed with end-stage cancer? He must consider himself extremely lucky for getting a girlfriend who is less than half his age.

Those things actually just make him more desirable to gold diggers. It's not uncommon for rich old men to get beautiful woman at all.

you underestimate her. you think she's not smart enough to record a tape of him being racist? she's a gold digger looking for her comeuppance.


yeah she's dense. bitch need a publicist. her story is so stupid - she just wants to protect him, yet she leaks the info/records him. she's his assistant, whom he has given $3-4 million because she's "so good." her terms of endearment "honey" or "babe" makes it obvious that she sucked him off good.

If she was a gold digger, then she would have waited for him to die, so that she could get a share of his fortune. Remember that Donald Sterling is already diagnosed with terminal cancer. But when he loses his money, she also loses a part of her potential future inheritance.

Right now Donald Sterling will lose around $200-300 million in Capital Gains. That means that she also lost tens of millions of $$$.

you are probably unaware of the situation. sterling's wife sued her for "being a temptress." she probably came out with the info in response to that. and what makes you think she's in sterling's will? she's just one of his mistresses.

Waited for him to die? Why would she get anything? She's not his wife. In fact, isn't he still married?


Doesn't exactly make you a genius to record a phonecall. wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't even her idea, and she just told somebody about the racist stuff he says and they suggested to record it.

There is a third woman most people don't know about yet.
This is getting crazy  :D
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ewKUf5_MHbM/Ula0fJPm25I/AAAAAAAAAKk/xlipANsn16s/s1600/DrkGodess.jpg

there's an affadavit of sterling telling whoever was questioning him that the girl sucked his toes, and then started sucking him off, for which he thanked her.. and paid her. it was funny because he was not directly asked what she did for him, but he voluntarily said it.

he is notoriously known for being cheap. a member on his coaching staff had cancer and he refused to help pay. so to get the man to give you $3-4 million dollars, you must have fucked him pretty damn good.

Does he have a fetish for munters and mingers or something?

At his age the selection is limited even for men with money.

@beetcoin I hadn't heard that yet; He needs to learn to keep his mouth shut, or his wallet will stay open.  :)

there are plenty of gold diggers in LA.. he could have plenty of girls who are looking for the income to support their lifestyle.

How exactly can someone get sued for being a temptress? It's interesting to see he doesn't like black people that much but it doesn't mind fucking them.

i'm not clear about how she could get sued for that. but this is america after all. in this case, sterling, stiviano, and sterling's wife are all equally stupid.

the wife should have known that the skank had some info on her husband. there's no need to sue, especially since she isn't likely to win. what a dumbass.

That is Makeda Voletta? What she has to do with Donald Sterling? Let's stay on the topic than straying too much away from it.

The wife sued over "being a temptress".
Google "being a temptress" and she comes up.  :P

Google can be deceptive sometimes. Rather than a temptress, Makeda Voletta is a mentally deranged cultist, who opts for the cheap publicity.

At least Stiviano is relatively in a better mental state.

OK I will avoid her now, thanks.
The Clippers won in the first round and the losing coach was fired.

lol, v stivianiano is being invested for extortion. it makes sense  :D http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/07/v-stiviano-extortion_n_5278226.html

what a fucking gold digging bitch  :D

mark jackson was due to be fired anyways. he's also got a sordid history of being anti-gay i believe.. and an adulterer, in spite of being a minister in LA. he seemed like a terrible coach who was only able to give good pep talks.

Wouldn't surprise me if she hadn't tried blackmailing him in some way, but maybe this is just Sterling's attack on her trying to get his own back.

i thought about that, and it's quite plausible. but in my opinion, it's even more plausible that she is using her "assets" to extort money from stern. she's already made bold faced lies in that interview with barbara walters.

I didn't watch the entire video but just the brief clips on the Fallon sketch, but what did she lie about? Blackmail will probably be hard to prove unless Sterling has actually got any recorded conversations, but I'm sure she told him prior to the release of the tapes that she had them, but it's how she asked or what she asked for that is the key element.

This is interesting, but I don't think that it is quite possible.

Donald Sterling’s wife wants to keep Clippers

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/360115/sports/basketball/nba-donald-sterling-s-wife-wants-to-keep-clippers-report

Are they separated or still together? If they're separated or going through a divorce then she'll probably get her fair share anyway, but if they're still together I doubt she'll get it.

Legally, Rochelle is still married to Donald Sterling, although they have been living separately for a few years now. That dims the chances of her getting anything from the NBA.

The Clippers and Warriors need to do something to show Sterling that his actions were unacceptable and they are a united front against his twisted world view. It needs to be done in Game 5 though. I don't think not playing would be right because that's more punishing the fans as opposed to Sterling.

This is a very odd situation. But it does remind us no matter how much money you make, or how famous you are, racism still exists.

based on his interview with anderson cooper, it's pretty obvious that he is mentally unhinged. he's definitely racist, but he's racist and mentally ill. i don't think it's right that the NBA forces him to sell his franchise, but i guess it's the politically correct thing to do.

Agreed. The reaction from the NBA was a bit over the line. To be honest, it is not appropriate to fine someone (and that too someone who is dying of end-stage cancer) $250 million for a single offensive comment.

i think the NBA's doing it since they can use the anti-racism card and no one, except for maybe sterling and his wife, will object. win/win. it's a safe move to make and only helps the NBA's squeaky clean reputation. but to be honest, they try to keep that squeaky clean reputation for the sake of appealing to more people, and that's just for the money.

Hmm.... the NBA is already pulling in billions of USD in sponsorship and television deals every year. They simply don't feel the need to popularize the game anymore. BTW.... Obama must be thanking the NBA, for the $250 million capital gains tax payment. Should be enough for a day's food stamps and other welfare benefits.  ;D

there are other important matters one can discuss than this stupid father daughter controversy -_-

It's obvious what she and he has been doing, he's the supporter of a dead or dying ideology that is founded on stupidity and ignorance and he is also trying to placate the opposite side as well which isn't going well at all. Meanwhile she is definitely a gold digging girlfriend who picked a controversial target and didn't have the brains to figure out it was probably a bad idea to hang out with someone who clearly was either brought up racist, is racist or has ties with a lot of racist people.

hah... now it is Donald Sterling vs Magic Johnson. Still wonders me... why can't the idiot keeps his mouth shut? At least in order to minimize the damages?

Donald Sterling stirs new dispute with Magic Johnson-HIV remarks

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2014/05/13/sterling-stirs-new-dispute-with-magic-hiv-remarks/9026979/

I feel sorry for Donald Sterling... first of all his "girlfriend" is a gold digging whore, there is no question about that. According to another one of his phone conversations she treats her own family like shit, which is no surprise because people like her are real scum of the earth.

About him being racist, I doubt he's a 100% racist but his words form that recording were pretty harsh... it seems like he still has a backwards mentality when it comes to minorities even if he's not a complete racist. But I feel sorry for him because the way this audio was leaked out (from gold-digging whore) was an invasion of privacy and completely unfair. And he goes on CNN to apologize and somehow ends up making it even worse for him by going off on Magic... I have a feeling it's a combination of Donald just being incompetent to what he's saying and CNN's own manipulation for creating more drama.


As for him losing his NBA team, that is fair game. NBA is a franchise organization, they do not deal with scandals or racism.. they need to keep an image, and that is pretty much everything for them. It has nothing to do with freedom of speech or invasion of privacy... It's the same with any company... if I say some outrageous shit that hurts my company, even in private, and word leaks out then my company WILL fire me.