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Curecoin is now ready for launch!

Down to the details. Folders will receive 80% of the available coins, 20% will go to SHA miners to secure the block chain.  The coin was redesigned to be very much like the original BTC.  A similar total coins, same block target time ( 10 minute blocks on SHA POS coin base ) for reduced block chain bloat. The coins will mint for ~100 years like the original BTC.

To receive your curecoins via folding you will have to sign up at Cryptobullionpools.com  (http://Cryptobullionpools.com) and also with F@H using the same username which is case sensitive. Easy as pie, contribute to cures and earn curecoins. There are instructions on the about tab of the folding pool to help you get started.

All early investors will be receiving your awaited email with simple instructions to claim the coins you invested into.

Thats the short of it. The rest will be seen when official release is here. Source code and binaries will be posted in 5-7 days. The system is ready to go, but to adhere to fair launch rules here is the PRE ANN.

Many thanks to all the supporters of the project. All aspects of Curecoin will be running under openssl 101g from the start, from the coin base to the folding pool. Lets get ready to fold and see what this hybrid cancer curing cryptocurrency will bring.

You will be glad to know that protein folding is more finely tuned for each specific GPU / CPU and therefor consumes less electricity, creates less heat and wear on your equipment. Very unlike Crypto mining where one can be stuck pushing cards to their limits.

Thanks for your time and support crypto fans!

CygnusXI

http://bitcoinfansite.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/curecoin.png

ok ,i had sign up on that wedsite,thanks.and what shoud i do next?

curecoin.us has IP address 0.0.0.0

The forum hosting is going to be outsourced. Curecoin.us will be available again soon. In the making of CureCoin, I do not have the time to also personally host the forum. CureCoin will be announced here on bitcointalk and on the CureCoin Facebook Page, also on twitter and instagram. If you are a twitter user you can follow cryptobullion or datcurecoingirl for play by play updates. Facebook users need only to enter CureCoin into the search bar and you will find the official CureCoin Facebook page.

hi,man.i cant open the Curecoin.us ;)

SHA? I suppose you have got ASIC and realised that you are too late for BTC, right? Good bye.

There's no point to create SHA coins now-a-days.

That's what I think.  I was initially really excited for CureCoin because I anticipated it being something like PrimeCoin or RieCoin.  But since the random hashing is not able to be useful to the project, it is just feeding off processing power that could have gone to the project.

Since it is being mined by SHA, this will only enrich a few.  I assume the payout will be proportional to your "coin" value F@H already gives you for the metric of work you accomplish.  I've been receiving these useless "coins" for over 10 years now.  It was always about the thrill of computationally trying to guesswork what would happen if a protein decided to "fold" a certain way rather than another way.  

This coin just confuses people and dilutes the market share even further.  Ignorant will mine thinking they are somehow benefiting medicine.  The regular user cannot mine if it is SHA.  Mine Primecoin or Riecoin if you want to benefit medicine and donate a share of your profits.  The processes of protein folding are incredibly mathematical.

Also, you are going to launch now?!  When your website has been done for a couple weeks?
This was being planned for release back in August of 2013 at least.  Why release when nothing is ready now and risk hurting the coin even further?

There's no point to create SHA coins now-a-days.

Do you guys have a problem with reading ? 80% of the coins go to GPU miners and 20% SHA miners.

Finally a coin with a real use - and a good one too. Count me in.

There is a point reading the OP and think about it - best is - do it before posting BS here.

I have a feeling this will be huge.  ;)

I do not understand how it will work.....

This page needs to be formatted a little better, but here is Vorksholk's how to guide, just follow the instructions and your gpu will earn a lot of curecoins for contributing to finding cures for cancer, Alzheimer's, Huntington's, Parkinson's, and many other diseases. Recently there has even been a new way to contribute very easily that focuses on diabetes research.

https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/about (https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/about) 

Can you compare this to other similar projects that also use these calculations? - Ripple (Seti, ...)

congrats cyngus :)

nice！

Pay attention to you for a long time, but the progress is too slow, at least GRC is worked out, a little disappointed you too slow.

Would you rather have them release something halfbaked and possibly broken?

Thanks Ahmed!

FYI to all those interested Ahmed is one of four people that has already tucked away a launch ready mining pool for CureCoin launch. Visit his pools and take a look at the quality of pool that he runs.  Curecoin Team plans to have at least 3 mining pools ready for launch time, maybe 4.

Many others have asked me if they can make pools, dice games, block explorers, and much more for the launch day of CureCoin. To answer all those that I have not had a chance to reply to , you are all welcome to launch these services compatible with Curecoin the moment that source code and binaries are released. I recall there was even an exchange or two that wants to be ready to trade CUR to other coins upon launch time. Again, all services are welcome to launch when the coin launches.

There is already one site that is active and able to use big-advanced folding methods that could earn you a return on curecoin. http://powerppd.com/ (http://powerppd.com/) Its like a form of CEX.IO except made specifically for Curecoin's protein folding based rewards. Its based on 16 - 32 core processor rack mount systems.

ill pm u in 5. got a few things to talk about

If we setup folding on https://www.cryptobullionpools.com the folding points will be credited for CUR on release?

Yay!!  This is so exciting!!   ;D  It's been a long time coming and I'm sure it will be worth the wait :) This coin actually DOES something !!   

     hey genius did u read the post above your issue.... It clearly says to Use facebook CURECOIN page or get play by play info from datcurecoingirl (datmarleygirl) or cryptobullion on twitter.....  :-X

Finally :)

Been looking forward to this for a long time - I'll have three rigs attached to the pool. Let's get started.


And to all the people complaining about another SHA coin - read the OP carefully. The SHA is 20% of the coins and is for securing the network. The other 80% is going to GPU folding @ home people. By the way those who don't know you can also get PPD with folding @ home with CPUs and 4p rigs using big adv.

About time some one finally understands this coin correctly for what it is!

Looking forward to launch. Been following this project for awhile now, glad to see it finally ready to go live. And it's good to see an actual new coin that has unique aspects to it vs. everything else. I'll be folding as well as mining.

Question: is curecoin strictly proof of work, or is it proof of work/proof of stake like peercoin?

hello, my dear friends  ;)  now i have some questions to ask. (firstly ,i have to say i am just a new player knowing little about folding coins)

1//what does the sentence "Easy as pie, contribute to cures and earn curecoins."mean?

2//how to contribute to it and earn coins?anyone can tell me how to earn in direct and simple way?

3//228 point per day  ?means the number of curecoin?

4//how to change to GPU using my personal  jia'yong computer ?

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Hello Cusomeday, let me try to answer your questions.

1) Easy as pie, contribute to cures and earn coins. mean?

It is just a phrase to try and signify how easy donating to curecoin is. Basically it means it is extremely simple to start mining curecoins and while you are doing that you are contributing to cures.


2) How to contribute to it and earn coins? anyone can tell me how to earn in a direct and simple way?

Try and follow this guide. It is a great guide here: https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/about for setting up mining.

3) 228 points per day - curecoin has not been released yet - currently you are not earning any curecoin. That metric is the number of points you are currently earning with FAH which has its one point system.

4) How to change to GPU using your personal computer?

The GPU should automatically appear. Otherwise check your configure or preferences tab to see if your hiding something that is keeping it from working.


Hope that helps.


How to change to core x17 is in the guide too I believe.

The other two fields I'm not sure about by for me my next assignment is also unknown and but I have an actual IP for the collection server that may only appear once you've turned in something. My collection server IP is: 128.143.231.202 and I also have a work server above that. For reference I am currently successfully folding with the pool

Looking forward to this!  It's been a long time coming.  Curecoin could be one of the best altcoins.

2) When u downloaded the folding program and start folding, it means you are helping to find cures... its that simple
If u then sign up and fold for the team/pool of curecoin. By folding you will earn curecoins (but coin is not released yet, so no coins atm) But your welcome im sure to start folding :)
3) 228 are Points per day. When you fold.  you get points for the amount of work that you/your pc has done. These points per day, will then determine in the pool/team of curecoin how many curecoins you get.
4) I honestly don't know. Gpu's should be detected automaticly. If it is not maybe your gpu is not supported. Gonna have to research your gpu there.. Trying googleing it +folding

it's going to launch in 5-7 days, so 5-7=-2, so it launched two days ago?

5-7 = -2 would be a really silly pre-announcement wouldnt it now? :)

True, but please keep in mind that the minimum requirement for Big adv (BA) will change to 24core anytime soon and overall will be terminated end of 2014. Not much time left.

Congrats and Good luck with your project CygnusXI  :)

Still need to change the team number  (which I still don't like  :-\ ) or can we stay "home"

I think it's actually changed to 32 core. But I never heard that it's going to be terminated - that sux some pretty nice people had built some pretty sick 4p rigs I'll have to look that up thanks for the info.

Here the link to original posting:
https://folding.stanford.edu/home/revised-plans-for-bigadv-ba-experiment/

Plus I was off by one month, end of Jan 2015 is end of BA

Oh, ok hadn't seen that before, thanks.

Wow, great concept finally all that hashing power will be used for something useful rather than going to waste.

Ok, I followed the guide downloaded FAH, what group do I set it to ?

Sorted now from mining to folding, it was journey  ;D

I believed in this project from the start!
Congrats cygnus!

Hopefully the twitter/fb will also alert us when donators receive the email (in case it goes straight to spam).

My block erupters, dusty and bored of BTC, are ready for Curecoin, as is the idle time of all the computers in the house. And that of my VPS.

I notice androids, modern playstations and other such doowackery can fold too, so many users on bitcointalk who wanted to scryptmine on obscure hardware can fold instead.

Yes man,
I'm watting for you so long time.
And I konw this project is still alive!
Looks great!

if dev do not care about it,we should give up

What do you mean by this?

I loved this project when it was started, but he didn't adapted to new technolgies, it is a pity  :(
Leave the security of the blockchain in hands of a few asic miners isn't a good idea, If he only want to use this as a coin, he should use an idea similar to nodecoin and get rid off the POW thing if this POW can't be used to fold proteins directly "requires much knownledge and isn't as usefull as f@h works" So please, take a look to nodecoin idea or paralell chains IMHO  :)

He is not saying leave the security of the network in the hands of a few people. The goal of this coin is to try and allow people to mine without making one technology way bigger than another one - for example make it so that people with Asics can mine but people with Asics don't control the whole network like for Bitcoin.


Therefore he is just saying people who want to mine curecoin can mine with Asics and there mining power will be used for securing the network - like they do with Bitcoin - and in exchange for that they get 20% of the coins.


The POW - if you mean using only Asics or something to mine FAH is impossible because Asics don't work with FAH. I'm confused what you mean by if this POW can't be used to fold proteins directly - you do fold proteins but if people just folded proteins the network wouldn't be secure and transactions wouldn't be managed making it not a coin so Asics are used in that respect.

This looks legit at a cursory glance.
Gonna get our gpu machines primed to do some protein foldin'.
I want this project to succeed - it may help model future programs to have more intrinsically valuable POW systems.

Several months ago I remember reading on the curecoin website that this coin would be proof of stake as well as proof of work like peercoin. If that's true, then having a bunch of ASIC's mining wouldn't be required to secure the network. A single raspberry Pi could do that.

I asked earlier in this thread if curecoin was still PoW/PoS or just PoW like bitcoin. Hoping all of that will be revealed at or right before launch.

Also, there's a legitimate reason why this coin isn't using 'newer' technology like scrypt/scrypt-N/etc - it's because folding requires use of your CPU/GPU. If curecoin were an scrypt-based coin, some folders would point their folding rigs at mining the coin directly instead, and taking away from the most important part of this whole thing. The dev's seem to be on the right track with this coin. I really hope it works out, as people who fold could now potentially be compensated for the time and money spent helping to find cures for various diseases.

I mean use an algorithm to fold proteins as PoW, like primecoin and riecoin did to find prime chains, but by this way we couldn't use f@h workunits and the results wouldn't be as usefull as f@h works, I think that something similar to robetta 3d protein modeling could be achievable "I'm not a coder or mathematician, only a student and far from brilliant... so maybe this is much much hard that I imagine"
So which I say is that the network could easily become screwed by a few asics owners... and I don't expect a high volume of newer asics mining this coin which only will give them 20% and doubt this could be more profitable than btc mining.
Like I said, is that this idea could be implemented over nxt "similar to nodecoin, look into it" and get rid off from all the asics and have a secured blockchain without them. (I know there are many nxt haters... but a good idea is a good idea...) so please, take a look into it and if it isn't viable, explain me your point and allow me to sleep soundly :)

Been looking forward to this for a long time - I'll have three rigs attached to the pool. Let's get started

I will pay attention to you ;D

Crypto 3.0!!!
It's about time to start a revolution!
Come on man.
 :) ;) :D

The problem I see with your suggestion of the algorithm is that it hurts the effectiveness of the science behind it. Theoretically an algorithm could be written that could fold protein by itself so we wouldn't use f@h but still fold proteins however there are 3 problems with this.

1) F@H has been working on what they have been doing for 10 or more years and they have a very nice system in place for validation and all of that. Plus there points system runs off of comparing what your machine can do compared to a test system which results in increased costs for the curecoin devs who will need to set this up. Getting a validated system is quite hard but you would need a near perfect one in place before you started otherwise people could cheat the system by submitting invalid units - a problem that F@H has experienced a few times in the past I believe. Also I believe F@H is not fully open source - because people could exploit the code and use it to submit invalid work units so this code would need to be written from scratch.

2) The folding of random problems by itself would be useless - we would need a list of what proteins to fold and these are normally developed in Stanford laboratories and then submitted to the network. The cost in research time and equipment to determine what proteins to fold is probably close to if not in the millions of dollars something which I doubt the developers can afford. However, without this step done beforehand it would not be possible to start the coin.

3) The whole point of F@H is to get protein results which are then taken back to the lab and tested out to confirm how useful they are - the computing portion is done to lower the number of possible choices because testing every possible combination would take forever and not be effective. As a result more work would need to be done in order to do the actual science or the protein folding is again useless.

And what you said about the Asics I disagree - I think the network will manage itself. 20% of the coins is still a decent amount and I think it would attract Asics from people who have Asics that are no longer effective for Bitcoin mining (such as first generation Bitcoin Asics from Avalon or Butterfly labs). A lot of these people will/can turn to Bitcoin and then the profitability of the network will manage itself.

I understand that the network could become screwed by a few Asic miners but I also believe that as the coin will attract enough Asic miners to keep it secure.

I like your idea of removing the Asics from the equation and sticking with a F@H algorithm but I believe that the time (years) and the money (close to millions) would probably take so much time that it is not worth  it and probably very difficult to get backing for.

Also to address your question about the primes the reason they are able to do it is because the prime computing doesn't really build off any outside research and the code for how to calculate prime numbers on a laptop is pretty widely available so you just need to modify it some - it is a much simpler calculation and it is a lot easier to confirm whether or not someone has submitted a valid answer.

Hope this helped - I don't know it all perfectly but that is based of my knowledge and research someone else on the project probably has more to add/update with this.



Thanks,
Cameron

The coin will indeed be pow pos hybrid like peercoin. Thanks for easy to understand explanation for those looking for it. Ive been told that one of the biggest hurdles will be helping people to understand what I already know about how to properly use the system, I've assigned a couple people to the task of making better tutorials and how to videos. Launch time will commence once my team is all online at the same time ( including the launch ready pool operators). Expect to be folding for and mining curecoins anytime between tonight and the end of the weekend. This is why I quoted 5-7 days, to allow for my entire support team to be online for launch to provide mining pools, tutorials, general support, etc. Im ready for launch, how about you guys  ;)

And k2 is right, this coin is designed so that literally one raspberry Pi could secure the block chain. However I imagine there will be a little SHA mining power tossed at it anyways  ;D

cameronpalte is pretty spot on with his descriptions. Read his posts also. I have to get prepared to push the launch button  :o

Looking for this coin to be launched :)

Give us a little heads up...  dont know if i need to stay up all night now.

I think we will receive a email which let us IPO >:(

If you don't want to worry about staying up you can point your machines towards the pool (cryptobullionpools.com) and get them started folding and then as soon as the coin is released you'll just start getting curecoins with the pool. However, this does mean folding before the coin is released won't pay you anything.

we must find a cure with this :)

anyone knows how to GPU fold in Linux ?
they mention:
"Folding on AMD GPUs is problematic in linux due to poor OpenCL driver suppport from AMD, so GPU folding on AMD hardware is not supported at this time.  This could change at any time with a newer driver.  Linux GPU folding is still in beta testing."
https://folding.stanford.edu/home/guide/linux-install-guide/

Pay attention to you for a long time, but the progress is too slow, at least GRC is worked out, a little disappointed you too slow.

You can't wait 5 days?  ::)

Anyone understand the above? Or is he being mega-stupid?

Well,you say more or less the same as I think, I know all of this which you are saying and see many problems in it:
1) F@H didn't received many cheating trys simply because they aren't playing with money, lets see what happens when they system becomes attacked day after day for people wanting to earn more curecoins...
2) I know that fold a random aminoacid sequence wouldn't have any interest, but there are more ways to to make this more open sourced allowing to any researcher to submitt workunits to the system, not only stanford (maybe an organization where every researcher can join and subbmit workunits via BOINC?).  For example, anyone could upload a sequence to http://robetta.bakerlab.org/ and then they can send that workunit to BOINC via resetta project. I think this is better than work only for stanford.
3) It's discussed in 2) there are many other alternatives to f@h used for foldin, docking and analize protein interactions which are open source and will allow to more people do use the "folding" network for their own, I think this is the aim of a decentralized crypto, isn't it?

About asics, I mean that you need 100 miners of first gen to compete with one new miner, someone with 5 of this miners could break the network easy having in mind that many people expect to use block erupters usb for mining this.
And about prime numbers example I know what you say, for that which I said that this will require much work and knowledge, but anyways, we have the alternative that I said before using BOINC.

I look forward to your coin, when will it be out?

Just looked it up - yes as of now if you have an AMD Gpu you can not fold on Linux. I'll see if I can talk to them about that because a lot of people are currently folding scrypt coins with Linux AMD rigs that are becoming obsolete so it would be nice to have a system that would allow these people to switch over. However, if you want to fold as of now you need to either switch to Nvidia GPUs or get a Windows operating system.

I kind of share the fears regarding your point 1; hopefully not happen.
As for Open source: the base of FAH is open source, every one can get it from here https://simtk.org/home/openmm. Researcher could build their own infrastructure based on that. I have no problem that FAH keeps their system closed . It's their decision to ensure integrity of the results created during the process.

1) There are currently some places that offer small rewards for folding. These rewards can be pretty substantial but aren't a lot because of costs if you use regular folding. However, if you were able to cheat the system the rewards would become significantly more worthwhile.

I do agree that F@H will probably get more cheat attempts as the coin comes hout, however, as of now they have quite a good system in place that would keep someone from folding random amino acids. I'll do more research into the details of their system to see how useful it is.

2) You could setup an oganization - except boinc has strict rules and generally you can't submit work units by themselves. And also, I don't think a system like this at least initially will be able to generate enough computing jobs for everyone mining the coin to be able to have something to do.

As said before a major problem that I see with making it open source is that their won't be enough work units for everyone mining the coin to have something. The bitcoin network is currently 160x as large as Stanford's F@H network which is like 45 petaflops. If we manage to add say another 45 petaflops then now they are theoretically getting results twice as fast which means they need to produce work units twice as fast. For a smaller network we may multiply it in size by say 50x and they may not be able to handle the demands.

I understand how one asic could get a few percent of the overall power especially in the beginning but I'm confused as too how that would crash the network.

I think Boinc could work however, Boinc would still have the same limitations you talked about with F@H and the calculations would still be integrated in a 80-20% system. I don't think they would change anything if they switched to boinc.

And as ChristianVirtual just touched on - part of the reason F@H is closed source for some parts is so that people don't get access to those parts and try to submit fake work units.

Works well with nvidia cards under Ubuntu. I run two GTX780 and one 660TI. Just need to make sure the "right" driver versions are installed. Original NV driver, not open source. And newer cards don't like older driver and vice versa.

Hey everyone! To consolidate the above information into one explanation:

1.) Curecoin, as cygnusxi mentioned, is a hybrid PoW/PoS coin. The traditional PoW was, of course, SHA256D for Bitcoin. Like Bitcoin, Curecoin uses SHA256D, and the PoS first implemented by PPCoin.

2.) People have expressed concern over the possibility of people cheating Folding@Home. As pointed out higher up in this thread, parts of F@H that have to do with work formatting are closed-source in an attempt to eliminate the possibility of people faking workunits. However, no downloadable software is truly 'closed source', as at some level the software has to actually run, and to do so must be expressed in machine code/assembly. Folding@Home has server-side integrity checks of work units which aim to also eliminate attempts at cheating. Of course people will try, most will fail. As the project moves on, exploits will be found and fixed. Any project like this will suffer similar attacks, and at this point it is a small concern.

3.) The folding pool can be adapted to support other projects. Right now, Folding@Home is the project we chose to integrate first with. However, in the future, other projects can be added/removed and tracked. Our back-end works by aggregating statistics from Folding@Home, and doing a proportional payout. In a simple example, if User A got 20,000 Points on Tuesday and User B got 40,000 Points on Tuesday with no other users doing any folding, User A would get 33.3% of the Curecoins for that day's payout, and User B would get 66.6% of the Curecoins that day. If we were to add an additional project, we would need to find a conversion of points between the projects (use a benchmark machine or two, and test how many points per day that machine could get with each project for both CPU work and GPU work, and strike a balance by using a proportion to convert points from both projects into a normal point system). If a benchmarking machine could get 8,000 points per day on, say, Rosetta@Home while getting 12,000 PPD on F@H, then each Rosetta@Home point would be worth 3/2 of a F@H point, so if one person got 8000 R@H points and another got 12000 F@H points, they would receive equal payout, as they used approximately equal computational power for the same amount of time.

While we are not currently working on implementing other projects, the possibility is certainly there, and the project is not, by definition, tied to Folding@Home.

4.) Folding@Home is a major distributed computation network, and therefore has the resources to ensure that the project can continue to grow without causing problems.

People have also expressed concern over the proof-of-work being SHA256D. To summarize, SHA256D is a very light hashing algorithm that high-performance ASICs have been created and distributed for. Most other algorithms currently require the use of a GPU or CPU. ASICs are unable to do folding, while GPUs and CPUs are slow at SHA256D, so the logical choice is to allow ASICs to secure the network by doing hashing, while GPUs and CPUs can do the work they are great at--folding.

People are going to have doubt and concerns, and debate these endlessly until they see everything in action.  If everything works as intended this has huge potential. You would be a fool not to be enthusiastically involved in this,  at least till a problem is found.

Well, using BOINC and a POS blockchain like nxt or something symilar to exocoin (which once the block is found the miners stop till the next block need to be generated "I think") would allow us to get rid of the PoW or nearly reduce it to cero, I think that a p2p verification of the workunits should be possible, if each workunit is distributed to many workers, we only need to compare them and see if they have symilar results, this could be done by all nodes because I don't expect that comparing solutions would require many cpu time "and assuming most wost workers are honest ofcourse, I think that a system to track the workunit procedence could be developed to in case one corrupt worker is sending many fake results from same place" I'm saying boinc because I think it accept a wider range of works.

About work demand in the beginings, this should be easy to solve, simply spaming for example sequences of proteins which doesn't have a 3d model yet and build one via abinitio, this use many cpu time, and I'm sure that for gpus are other friendly things to do and easy to spam to the network.

The last think I dislike or don't understan is how the coins will be distributed, will the pool do that? so then, the technology is in the pool, not in the coin?, is simply a bitcoin clone centraliced in hands of the pool owners which will have the wallet where 80% of the coins will go and the pool software will distribute them? I would apreciate an explanation about this issue, because these couldn't even get considered a cryptocurrency.

And please, don't think I'm intending to annoy, I really love this project, but think it could be done better, I'm not a coder like I think, only have ideas and can make the algorithms but don't know how to give them to the computer  :(

They could have used something like nxt or exocoin but I don't think these coins existed when they started curecoin development. However, I'm not sure for their reason for this. A p2p verification could be acceptable but I doubt stanford would accept those. A system could be made, however, I don't think it would work.

Spamming wouldn't work because they could be validated as Vorksholk addressed.

The coins will be distributed based of how many points you get for the 80% and I believe the 20% is distributed the same way Bitcoins are distributed.

I'm glad you love the project you have some good ideas :).

I know they doesn't exist then, but yes some months ago, I think that was enbought time to do something, anyways, lets see how this work, we always have time to make a better option :)
And ofcourse, the p2p validation is getting rid off stanford, the aim, in my opinion, is to create a researchers computational network where everybody could send their works

Could you quote this issue about spaming "unusefull" work to the network?

Yes, but the 80% of coins where they come from? Are generated by the network every day and distributed to miners attending to coin code or this is done by the pool? Are they premined and stored in a wallet in hands of pool owners and then distributed to miners? I don't understand yet  :-[
A white paper or something symilar would be great, in more than one year that I have been watching this project this could be done, couldn't it?

Here is the quote from Vorsholk about validating work units:


Yes lets see how they work. I think they idea of researchers submitting their own work units is a good idea - however, there would need to be a way to validate first whether the work units are completed and secondly if there are enough work units it is much more difficult coding wise and raw resource wise.

I'm guessing a white paper could be done in the year - I'm sure they will release one at some time. That would definitely help.

As for trying to answer your questions about the coins. The coins aren't premined and stored - that wouldn't work well. The way they work I believe is similar to Bitcoins.

So let me take a stab at this. Coin generation is like Bitcoin. So let's say a block is generated every 10 minutes containing 25 coins - like Bitcoin. Once those 25 coins are generated it is split 20% and 80%. 20% of the coins is split over the Asics similar to how coins are currently split with Bitcoins so the blocks go to one person who did the most mining and there will be pools for this and such.

The 80% of the coins will split proportionally based on how many points are generated. For example if during this time 5 people submit work units for 1000 - 2000 - 2000 - 3500 - 1500 points. Therefore person 1 would get 10% of the coins person 2 gets 20% person 3 gets 20% person 4 gets 35% person 5 gets 15%. These percents are for the 80% total coins. This shows how the 80% of coins are generated with each block.

How will all this be verifiable? Transparency is a MUST

CureCoin SHA256 Pool will be up for prereg soon. Sadly it wont be on my new platform as its not ready yet, but atleast the current modified MPOS + stratum should be rock solid.

Ahmed

Also, when is the release?  Ive lost a lot of sleep already.

I agree transparency is a must - it'll probably be just as transparent as Bitcoin mining if not more. Plus F@H publishes its own stats so you could validate how many points people are getting. However, the verification would probably be similar to Bitcoin verification.

Nobody knows - I wish I knew.


Looking forward to it!

Alright, looks like we need some clarification on the percentages, sorry about not putting that in my previous post!

3% of the coins will be the dev funds--paying for development of various infrastructure, paying for servers for hosting things, forum upkeep, web design, kickstarting Curecoin projects, bounties, etc. This money will be extremely transparent, we will have a blog where every transaction involving the dev funds is posted and explained, with a crosspost to the forum for comments.

2% of the coins will go to the initial donator funds. As a reminder, this amount was 1BTC per 10k Curecoins, and was used as a way to fund everything during development. The initial donations went way beyond what we expected, and as thus we still have some funds remaining from that, which we are using to buy powerful hosting for the forum, website, and file mirrors. On release, we will have multiple file mirrors, seed nodes around the world, etc. If anyone at this point wants a donation refund, I offer a buyback at 1.1BTC/10k Curecoins, a 10% profit over your initial investment for trusting us. Otherwise, your Curecoins will be waiting for you!

We sent this message to all investors:
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The remaining coins will be split 80/20 folding/mining. So considering all the total coins in the network as 100%, then the TOTAL folding funds will be 76% of the network, and the mining funds will be 19%.
As the way the coin was designed, the folding share is premined. This serves three purposes:

--> Preventing a future fork of the chain stealing folding funds
--> More reliable payout scheme, take the guessing out of folding
--> As the coin is PoS, a 51% attack on a PoS coin with a large amount of the coin reserved will be nearly impossible until the majority of coins have been paid out, at which point the network will be more than large enough to protect itself.


I really wish I could give you an exact time for launch, we're trying to work a bunch of people's schedules to all coincide so we can have pool operators, folders, developers, etc. available when it launches to answer questions, help people who are late on the folding train, etc.
As for prep-steps, you can check out the illustrated Windows folding guide I have over http://www.curecoin.us/index.php?topic=3482.0 (http://www.curecoin.us/index.php?topic=3482.0).

Impressive work!

I'm really interested in the details of how the premined folding coins will be released, automatically, based on the folding score. Has this been described somewhere, or is the code for that mechanism available somewhere?

So sad to hear this... :(
We know we can trust on you, but this will be very symilar to ripple "in distribution I mean" Of course you solve all these problems, but the coin becomes centralized, doesn't it? I suppose the wallet with 15,96 millions will be in developers hand right, or are this coins in a wallet which anyone knows the private key and harcoded into the coin code and distributed automatically via some scrypt?
Please explain, because I see many flaws here :( , I really want this project to success, at least the target is nice, but for which I see for now doesn't seems very proffesional.

I'm curious about the folding coins being premined - how will that be managed - if the coin bloats in value what is to keep a developer with access from selling a bunch of coins and getting a bunch of money before running.

And also for the FAH security another advantage that FAH has that wouldn't work with a smaller networks is FAH is much larger and thus much more equipped to handle things like mass  DDOS attack or people trying to submit fake work units. Also a thing was recently released showing F@H as the strongest Distributed Computing network out there.

Plus because of how larger they they are they also have backing from companies especially companies like Google with insane amounts of resources - and Stanford with many connections.


And lastly the recent success of gridcoin helps back up this being possible - no one has knocked down Boinc which is weaker than F@H.

Integrity, plain and simple. And the rest of us will have to put faith in and trust that the dev team have the integrity to reserve the 76% that were pre-mined for those that fold. If that 76% were to suddenly be dumped onto the market, there would be nothing for folders to receive, and it would completely destroy this project. Which would completely invalidate all of the work the dev team has been doing for the last several months. To the devs - transparency is KEY. This has to be addressed, those mining/folding for this coin need to see the wallet address where the pre-mined coins are stored and be able to follow the transactions in its blockchain.

In my opinion, the feeling that I get is that we can trust the devs to do the right thing. Believe me when I say that if my instincts were different, I would have no problem calling them out on it (see my posts on the Aphrodite scam coin thread).

As with any alt coin release, I can fully understand yours and anyone else's concerns. If you want to play it safe, don't invest any more resources into obtaining this coin then what you can afford to spend (mining/folding/investing on an exchange). Or don't mine/fold for it at all. I for one plan to mine the shit out of it.

Interesting,nice to see a thread that is having some constructive conversations and not scam posts and trolling sh..

I will be watching this thread seems like a promising coin!!

Wish you good luck and keep up the great work!!

Integrity is indeed key in many aspects of life. I have the domain curecoin.info reserved but not yet active. This domain will hold a fully transparent ledger of all transactions that are done with the folding funds and dev funds. I have openly shared my identity in various places, if you have not yet followed me on Google +  here is the link to my personal page. https://plus.google.com/u/0/+joshsmithCygnusXI (https://plus.google.com/u/0/+joshsmithCygnusXI) Add me to your circle and feel free to Google chat with me. I plan on hosting Google hangouts to discuss Curecoin and its making, among other items.

I intend to run Curecoin in a 100% transparent manner. Curecoin is compatible with TX messages and all TX for the ledger will have comments for intended use and dates for an easy human readable ledger system.

Thanks for the support, don't forget to follow me on Google ;)

Joshua Smith AKA CygnusXI

is it happening tonight, or can i go to sleep?

Ive spoke with the main members of the team today. It looks like the team will be able to get together tomorrow afternoon about 2pm EST. Expect launch to happen shortly after that as we put the last pieces in place. 

Work units can take a long time to fold for many cards (AMD cards average 6 - 12 hours for a work unit, certain high end Nvidia can complete a WU in four hours or less). If you start folding tonight its likely that your points will be counted tomorrow.

I would recommend to set up a folder or two, catch a little sleep, and get ready for the fun tomorrow.

Ok thanks for the updates - looking forward on this.

Looking forward to launch. seriously cannot wait. Thanks again Devs for all the support and work you guys have done.

I've been folding now for over 24 hrs using F@H onto https://www.cryptobullionpools.com but still no stats are showing up on there

I have 5 290 GPUs and my CPU at it

How long does it take?

btw -  I'm a cancer patient so think this is awesome

This is a miner coins   ;D ;D

Excited for launch!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :)  ;D  :o :D ;)

Your points will be showing up soon my friend! The pool updating is still currently paused but your points are being recorded.

Make sure you leave enough cpu cycle room to feed all those 290 gpu's. With all those 290 gpu's using your cpu will pale in comparison. If you need any help balancing the system just let us know. Turning CPU folding off might help your 290's fold faster.

I hope Team Curecoin can help find some real cures! Keep in good spirits friend!

Cool

thanks for the tip on the GPU vs CPU. atm the GPUs seem to be doing very little.  Will have a fiddle

Each GPU needs 1 core of CPU for AMD I believe - so keep that in mind.

I'm kinda glad this didn't launch right at 2pm EST... I've been planting trees and digging up rocks for the last three hours, checking my email every 10 minutes hah :)

I'm ready. Beer in hand. Let's go :P

Interesting, so my Celeron  CPU G1610 (which is dual core) may well not be up to the job then?  It's been mining SCRYPT fine for the last 6 months.

Any tips on configuration for folding will always be gratefully received.  They are running silent in comparison to the racket they make when scrypt mining.  If that's normal then great, my marriage will benefit from the peace :)

Looks like it's launched, exciting coin! :)

If your Celeron drives two GPUs it's perfectly fine. Some people do (or did) exactly that: high performance GPU feeded by low performance CPU

Yup! Newer Catalyst drivers + better folding@home software updates allow a lot of systems with low-end processors to still run high-end GPUs without too much bottlenecking. :)

Good - Are there any special config options I need to set for the GPUs?   ATM they are only showing around 17123 each in terms of credit and saying it will take around 30 days to complete (ETA)

Iw as looking in the slot configuration options to see if there was anything obvious

If you have 5 290s then I would still turn of the CPU to see - if you turn it off and the CPU is still running at 100% you may need to upgrade the CPU.

You should be looking at roughly 140k PPD per GPU for a total of 700k for the system if 17123 is your PPD per GPU then you are running way to low.

First things first: https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/about Follow the guide and make sure you are set up for Core x 17 work units.

Secondly, my problem when I was getting low PPD were that the GPUs weren't running as primary so I had to plug my monitor into my GPU and now my PPD is much higher - however, I'm not sure how that would work for 5 GPUs. Hopefully someone else can help you with this if the core x17 doesn't solve the problem.

Thanks - I'll give it all a go.  I'm just updating the AMD drivers first to see if that has an impact as well.

Another important thing - are you using a passkey? And if you have a passkey setup have you completed at least 10 work units so that you start getting bonus points - because I just turned on my machine with a AMD 7950 and the base credit for my GPU was 17123 - same as you except my total credit for the unit was 70k because I have a passkey. That's a big difference. But I am also completing these units in like 14 hours each so you should be completing them in like 8 hours.

How to setup a passkey if you don't have one is also in this guide: https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/about

Coin launched: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=603757.60

Yes I have done the psskey.  I think it's my CPU, even with the CPU off it's running at 100% ... time to go shopping :)

Thank You CURECOIN..... ;D Cure cancer, In my father's honor

Ah Well.  I've tried everything on the website to try and get this 5 AMD 290s to perform above 17123 Credits each but to no avail.  I upgraded to the AMD 14.4 Drivers but that just makes things work and the SCRYPT mining HashRate drops, so for some reason AMD have throttled that Driver.  Ive since put it back to an earlier version and got it back to normal.

At least I know my link up to https://www.cryptobullionpools.com is working as I can see some PPD getting through

I've tried

1.  Turning off the CPU
2.  Just trying it with one GPU
3.  Re-installing the whole thing from scratch
4.  Looked to see if there is anything obvious on the Folding Forum

I've opted to buy a new CPU however it maybe something simpler than that

Has anybody else managed to get these working on a 2 Core CPU? I'm looking in the FAHControl.exe configuration options under the Expert Tab, is there anything in there that would be worth setting?  What I cant find is a site that tells me what the Client and Core options are and what the values do

Thanks

Andy

turn off the cpu and wait 2-4h works 100%

I left it running overnight

Been playing with TriXX and it seems to be getting faster now 300000 PPD instead of just 8500

How many PPD should I get with a 280x?
At the moment it shows this:

CPU (i5-2400)
Base Credit 207
Estimated Credit 1161
Estimated PPD 6826

GPU (280x)
Base Credit 17123
Estimated Credit 67823
Estimated PPD 113016

After some initial config issues (see above) I'm now getting

GPU Radeon R9 290 * 5    PPD =  574,349 so around 115,000 PPD per card

You'll probably get there or there abouts for your 280x

It may have been a bit too early for me to assume I needed a new 4 core CPU

so i've got over 20k points on the web interface for folding@home but I still don't see anything on https://www.cryptobullionpools.com/userStatsAuth

I've linked the team ID and also created my account on cryptobullionpools with the same username used on the folding@home interface.  Any ideas?  Don't want to keep going if it's not being credited, thanks guys

Think they credit every 24hrs, so it's not real or near time

How long does it take to update the web portal with info? I started about 3hrs ago, and I see no information on my username at Extreme Overclocking or the F@H website itself.. Any ideas?

Edit: I don't think I've completed an entire project yet, so I am going to assume that is the reason.

good luck with this :)

1、客户端显示有660points,是多少curecoin？

2、怎么取出来呀，亲爱的朋友们？

3、curecoin图标治愈两个中文字，为什么是中文字呢？

4、多少价位是合理的尼？



1、in D@H says i own  660poins,menns how much curecoins i should own?

2、then how could i get them out to my wallet，my dear friends ?

3、why two chinese letters 治&愈 show on the curecoin coin ？why is chinese ,tather than others,does it made in china?

4、how much the suitable price would be?

怎么觉得这里有诈呢？
                              真是斯坦福的项目？
                                                    图标出现中文字，
                                                                        这个帖子也没多少回复啊？

Is it dead?