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*Thread is self moderated so that I can remove unnecessary posts made people in the campaign posting here.*

Hi we are UpDown.BT (https://updown.bt) (https://updown.bt, [Thread] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=578682.msg6320415#msg6320415)) and we're here to pay you for your signature.

— Bitcoin Foundation Gold Member —
(More details here: https://bitcoinfoundation.org/members/)

Payouts:

Hero members
0.0014BTC  Per constructive post. 50 posts min per month.

Sr. member
0.0012BTC  Per constructive post. 50 posts min per month.
 
Full Members
0.0008BTC Per constructive post. 50 posts min per month.

Members
0.0006BTC Per constructive post. 50 posts min per month.

Newbies and Jr members cannot join this campaign.

Terms:
Traffic must be productive in users joining and making bets to participate in this program.  

No spam or rubbish posts, max 3000 posts per month.

Posts with:

— Trolling
— Bumping
— Spamming
— Agree with
— Single image
— And not related to the thread

WILL NOT BE PAID

Only 1 account per person allowed. You should have zero or positive trust and not be labelled as a scammer on this board. Violators of this rules will be banned from this program and all payments lost.

You can only have only our advertisement in the signature with the link. Nothing else. No other advertising or personal links etc.

How to enroll in the program:

Post count starts when we see your signature with your bitcoin address. Previous posts do not count. There is no rollover.

Every month starts at zero in counts.

You will be automatically enrolled month to month. No need to apply every month. We have the right to terminate this program at anytime with 1 weeks notice. If you remove the signature before the month is up, you forfeit all btc payments for posts.

Post your bitcoin address for payments up on this board. With your starting post.

If you edit this original post YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE PAYMENT.

If the original post you made signing up has an edit image next to it, you will be disqualified & NOT PAID.

We pay more than anyone here!

To current members:

To continue in our program, you don't need to reapply. It's automatic. :)

Payments will be made every 10th (1 month and 2 days from now)

Payments will be made as fast as possible within a few days :), all posts during the payment period count!

Signatures you may use:

Members:

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*Once again, this is a signature campaign I am running on behalf of updown.bt, dont ask question specifically about the site :) *

Now go out and make those posts count, constructively of course!

Reserved.

How can you guarantee we will get paid? Have they given you the money upfront? You also have negative feedback now.

Trust rating is getting resolved and everything will be smooth :)

I'm approved member for this campaign according to this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.msg6611609#msg6611609
 

Ok the rates look good but I wonder why you are advertising PrimeDice If you pay for updown.bt?

Thats just until the end of this month! :)

Are the payments automated like on Ritz or not?

Sooo, I am guessing that I can't use the member/full member ad for the 0.0012BTC payment, correct? I highly dislike big advertisements and prefer ones like the one I have right now.

You going to give us any more details on how you can assure or prove payment? There'll be a lot of people jumping to this deal so are you sure you can pay everyone?

So do you still take care of Lb signature deal : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=586817.0 ?

You are on a roll in terms of getting jobs here ;)

Yes I still am running that :)

Hmm I'll have to check but either way the signature is the only thing permitted in the space.

They are not 'automated' in the sense of a computer sending them out. However they will be as fast as possible and any posts made from the 10th until payment will count for you so there is no need for instant payments. They will be as fast as possible :)

howzar:

I usually know that you run campaigns for websites as you have a good reputation for doing so and hence people can be ensured that their payments shall reach on time.

Most people who do this take escrow funds in advance from the website and then run the campaign.

But since this has maximum 3000 posts per month , how will sufficient funds be kept with you ?

Assuming only 20 people , with average 0.001 BTC per post , you will need 60 BTC advance-payment in order to assure payments.

TLDR ; Can you be held accountable for the payments ? If you are not given the funds in advance , your position as campaign manager does not have much point.

I have been provided an upfront amount to assure that all members will be paid out.

I have dealt with many trades here and signature campaigns, I assure that payments will be made as long as the owner provides remaining amounts needed for payouts (which he will, as he is a gold member on the foundation)

Once again I have same assurance that Stunna or Ritz will pay, based off of trust.

I will be asking for a larger amount of bitcoins upfront to help assure I will pay. However the average poster doesn't make more than a few hundred posts so rest assured I don't need 60btc. More like a few btc and any extra needed after 1 month.

True, and that would be okay if everyone just made a few hundred posts a month, but you won't just have the average posters joining this campiagn. Since this is the highest paying and paying per post you'll have people going for the big bucks and it's not that difficult to earn over a bitcoin in a month with these rates.


How much is the upfront amount you recieved? Stunna and Ritz are in an entirely different league to everyone else really. This could backfire on you if the owner of this deal refuses to send you the rest of the money to cover everyone. You might be willing to trust him but a lot of people here wont be.

This one seems promising then before with Newbie account.
Will move my signature at the end of the month. and give a shoot for this one.

You can count me in

Post count: 73

Address: 16vcWox5WV8oTJP8Xnrm16Cepndtz9qyvN

Which means that I can't have my personal things in there, correct? If so, then I might not join this campaign. I like my personal stuff :-[
I will have to think about it.

Did he just promote post whoring like he has been doing since last year?

Amazing...

Don't worry, we will back campaign runner with additional amount if number of participators will grow fast

Thank you.

Guys rest assured, this campaign WILL payout for the next month at LEAST and will most likely continue to payout! Do not fret.

Interesting. :) Is there a maximum number of participants for this campaign?

Not that I have been told of no

The rates are great but you only have one member that signed so far; I am sure you will have plenty more soon ;)

I will stay with PD

Well, they just got started and are probably not very well known yet. But I suspect that if PD doesn't change its rates by the 17th, a lot of people will switch.

There's always going to be a few that switch to the current highest paying deal, but Ritz has out-paid PD every month and people are still with and sign up to PD.

That's true, of course; but I imagine at least part of the reason is Ritz still having negative trust which will always scare some people away, and all the gossip going on about the site and whatnot. However, that isn't the case here. So, if UpDown.BT is able to keep the highest rates for a while, they'll likely get a lot of participants from both PD and Ritz.

Likely because of this

It probably won't scare many people off now, especially if they actually just read what the feedback is for. He's slowly building up rep and reliability with his continued and on time payments and that feedback will probably be neutralised soon enough.


The original op of this deal pretty much copied all the details including that from Ritz's deal.

All you can do is make non-trolling, non-one liner posts. How can you make the readers of the posts to must make productive bets?

I think Ritz just initially put that in as a get-out clause if the signature deal wasn't successful in bringing in any or many customers. It did have me concerned and suspicious at first.

These ones can get out using this. They do not have any reputation built here.

People keep signing up for sig campaigns that pay less than PD/RGC

PD will have ref links in the sig for additional revenue and is massively trusted

New thread?  Ok... lol

I will likely join if I receive no other offers... but site seems quite new.  Is the owner of the actual site providing you with the bitcoins?  If so, how can you guarantee that they'll pay us or not?  And does the owner of the site pay you the BTC in which you then send to us?

Ok just saw the site, and I will admit that it's pretty cool.
I've always wanted a site that was binary options with bitcoins... without a 30 minute signup :)  Thanks!

Edit:  I would really prefer it if you guys had minimum bet set to 0.001 BTC, allowing users to first give the site a few test trys... I gambled a couple of times and lost most of it lol :P  So yeah, change to 1 mBTC minimum bets? ::)

Another Edit:  Are you guys planning to go a bit more in depth and add accounts, and dashboards where we can see our progress?

"I have been provided an upfront amount to assure that all members will be paid out."

and

"Don't worry, we will back campaign runner with additional amount if number of participators will grow fast"

Joining.

Posts:   61

BTCTC: 1JmiFT8tN1VSoEyxnzeDBwh3hKpdnJEhU

Oh... so that means that howzar can make a great deal of money by simply abandoning all of his signature campaigns.  Oh, that's scary. :/
I'm still interested but just wondering why the real owners don't just start it themselves..  Sorry howzar, but I wouldn't cal you a "trusted third party/escrow"... 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=601491.new#new

I've been banned.

I will do my best to keep up with everything until this clears.

Not an auspicious start for this campaign... do you know for how long the ban is, and will you still be able to access funds and pay everyone?

The real owners of the site are still new to the forum, and upon a couple of requests for escrow, advance pay, weekly pay, etc., dealing with other new forum members, and a discussion about how they had copied the signature from PD initially, probably thought it simpler to just hand it over to someone of the community to handle. Can't say I blame them. :)

EDIT: you can see the original thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.0)

Approved

Funds on the wallet, and bitcoin wallet can't be banned. )

You guys should have picked a more trusted member. A banned person running a campaign creates a really bad imagine for your company.

Approved

We picked a member who already have an experience in running that kind of campaign.

Yes, we're planning.

Experience is not everything. I would prefer someone who never done it, but who has a great trust rating and knows how to deal with people. Teaching is easy, gaining trust is hard. But well, that is my opinion. Good luck with your website and this campaign! ;)

Your website looks great by the way. Really like the design.

Are you applying for the position?  ;D


Good to know. I hope everything goes well with the campaign from now on.

It kinda seems that way. The ban was unfortunately timed I must admit, but not all bans are for nefarious reasons, though I don't know the full details in this case.

Auspicious start to the campaign. first they have a get out clause which says even if you post if they do not get enough paying customers its your fault. Then they run it through someone who gets banned, has multiple accounts and in the past has behaved quite badly in the Ritz campaign.

There are others, do not get greedy and end up losing all just for a small increase.

Like I said before that clause and everything else was just copied from Ritz's thread, but it doesn't give me much faith when someone just copies an entire thread and its terms (not to mention copying PD's signatures). It's right to be sceptical of these deals, but they can prove our scepticism wrong and that they are legitimate like Ritz has done.

We're not saying "if they do not get enough paying customers". We say about traffic quality just because we don't want to stimulate spammers and avoid flooding of the forum with a crap posts.

I do not, as far as I know. Just trying to help out :P

EDIT: I like to state, once again, that I have nothing against the person doing the campaign, the owner of the website and the website itself. Not at all ;)

See no problem in copying terms from the guys who run a big campaign already and knows everything about. Anyway, it doesn't matter what the terms we have, in this kind of deals criticism is a very common part of discussions.

Unless you can guarantee payment to people who add your signature and display it for a month, nobody ll join. Why do we care about the number of people clicking through. You pay us to add your signature and post meaningful posts.

It is part of the process. Don't take it personally. Most people are sceptical of deals around here, and if they're not then they should be. A lot of the new deals that sprung up around here a few months ago scammed their users and didn't pay out at the end of the month.

And maybe you could've copied a different deal or at least just used others as a guide rather than pretty much copying it all verbatim  :D.

You might earn some btc to buy 5 pair of socks. 0.015 does the job:)

If this is legit can't wait to get member status and join this campaign :)

Can we get the address with the funds, maybe it will calm everyone down.

The rates are great but it is a new campaign so there is a risk involved at the beginning; paying a few Hero M upfront would start things up

I was going to ask what this had to do with anything, but then I saw your sig lol.


There are loads of other deals availbe but it'll be a few months at least before you can join any of them.

Yeah, there are several ways you can reassure people that you have every intention to pay. Showing you have the funds is a good start, but putting the funds with a trusted escrow or maybe even a smaller bond will get you some instant trust. Maybe pay out weekly for the first month until you've built up some trust.

Whart a pity! I am just newbie, do not meet the minimum criteria.

I'd like to join.

post count: 60

payment adress: 1ByiQoDxxYXnuxt3mdjp88rQ4tfwKp7Zuv

Paying out weekly makes the most sense when you are new. You can build up trust and then have monthly payouts.

How this campaign is going to work when person running it was already banned? I suggest to close this thread, pick someone who is not greedy troll to run campaign and start with clean slate.

Is there an escrow address with BTC for this campaign in it? I might join if my other Sig deal doesn't get renewed before the end of the day.

This topic will be closed by moderator because author was banned. We're not related to this incident, and will continue this campaign in our own thread, that was unlocked. All current campaign members are signed and will get their first payout on May 15. Yes, we decided to pay on a weekly basis during the first month of the campaign.

Our campaign topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.40)

We've decided to make payouts on a weekly basis to earn some trust.

its really good news that you want to show you are legit by payng weekly. now I think people will trust your campaign and will join. and mostly will join after 17th when Prime Dice will pay his monthly pay for signature.

I will be becoming a member soon and will surely participate with the weekly payment offer.

Write in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600446.0, howzar is no longer a mediator, official thread is in the link that I posted. Good luck!  ;)

I'm already updated those thread. And asked moderator to close this one.