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Title: Google is evil
Post by: dank on May 15, 2014, 10:11:08 PM
The filter searches to their benefit and information which was once accessible and true is now forbidden including medical studies to pharmaceuticals.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: Lauda on May 15, 2014, 10:26:42 PM
You do realize that Google knows what you have said? :o
Here is an article: http://www.infoworld.com/t/cringely/google-evil-you-have-no-idea-238288


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: Hazir on May 16, 2014, 02:45:40 AM
Google is evil, alright. But we really have any choice? Google is the best at what it does. Other search engines are just a shadows of mighty google. Google is so powerful that it has a religion called 'googlism' already. You can't reason with that. Just accept it.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: cookiemonsterwhat on May 16, 2014, 04:24:37 AM
All I can say is its better then most companies out there.

Its brining google fiber soon, making internet more affordable. $30 month with fiber optics..

Also google allows people to make money as well, with ads.

This also excludes ventures they fund as well, to make capitalism work in US.



Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: BCwinning on May 16, 2014, 04:46:30 AM
Google is evil?I dont think so.
I do and so do a lot of others. ease of use comes at a price. One advertisers pay very well for.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: Hazir on May 16, 2014, 05:08:07 AM
All I can say is its better then most companies out there.

Its brining google fiber soon, making internet more affordable. $30 month with fiber optics..

Also google allows people to make money as well, with ads.

This also excludes ventures they fund as well, to make capitalism work in US.



They are so good that Russian government will ban Google if they won't place their servers on russian soil, so russian police could have access to their database. Google has half year to transfer their servers to russia.
Will you be still using google then?


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: activecoin on May 16, 2014, 05:10:32 AM
will be using google until the other one is faster and more clear on what they want me to see, come on microsoft!


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: luckybitcoin777 on May 16, 2014, 07:59:52 AM
Google is useful for me....so far.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: coolcool on May 16, 2014, 08:03:56 AM
I use only google. Can I try some other searching engine? :)


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: lucring on May 16, 2014, 08:12:52 AM
how can you prove that google is evil?


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: 5UB on May 16, 2014, 08:27:02 AM
I find Google very useful personally. It has changed a vast amount of lives in the way of finding things out, finding out where to go, learning and education. I can only see it has a good thing.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: BiTJack on May 16, 2014, 08:35:07 AM
Well, I agree to disagree with that.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: dank on May 16, 2014, 09:09:13 AM
how can you prove that google is evil?

Look within.  Google was great but was corrupted by fear, they work with the government.

I've never researched any of this, I just know it.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: zetaray on May 16, 2014, 09:28:49 AM
If google is evil, who is the saint? Is there a saint at all? Before we have a search engine saint, we will have to choose a lesser evil.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: strombert on May 16, 2014, 09:31:18 AM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/49898286.jpg


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: dank on May 16, 2014, 09:44:02 AM
The akashic records within is saint.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: Gimpeline on May 16, 2014, 11:12:39 AM
I stoped using google a year or so ago and went over to startpage instead. https://startpage.com/


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: Mitchell on May 16, 2014, 11:20:05 AM
I can't for sure say that Google is evil, but they do block way to many results and also keep you inside your own "bubble (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble)" and that can be quite bad, if you ask me.

However, I still use Google because it always finds what I am searching for and that is exactly what I want. Let's just say that I have mixed feelings for Google.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: BCwinning on May 16, 2014, 01:21:36 PM
it helps me find stuff that i really need so evil or not , i dont care ,, google for life  :P
it knows what you lost before you do .


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: BCwinning on May 16, 2014, 01:51:22 PM
Google might be evil, but I can scrape any forum/site just with site:domain: search text

example site:bitcointalk.org: overclocking gridseed

And google is on spot.

I use to use ixquick, duckduckgo, they all suck. they don't do what google can do. Google search engine is so powerful and their gmail is wicked. google drive is awesome.

Google works for me, I work for them in a way as well but kinda don't as I block ads, their redirects with ABP & redirect cleaner.

If you ever noticed when you search google, click a link and you slightly see a link show up in the urlbar rather than the source or hover your mouse over a google link it's does not show the source? redirect cleaner cleans this mess up.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/redirect-cleaner/

Code:
Redirect Cleaner cleans Redirects from Links
www.example.com?url=www.mozilla.org
startpage :) that's the point of google, it has to work like that or who would use it?
It's corporate NSA style. along with facebook


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: fattypig on May 16, 2014, 02:38:26 PM
it helps me find stuff that i really need so evil or not , i dont care ,, google for life  :P

Why is google evil? :)


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: Grownwithbtc on May 16, 2014, 03:07:05 PM
Google Is good and very useful as long as you use It smart. Don't trust anyone to much with your personal information and you'll be fine. I would say Facebook is evil   ;)


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: sana8410 on May 16, 2014, 03:16:53 PM
You do realize that Google knows what you have said? :o
Here is an article: http://www.infoworld.com/t/cringely/google-evil-you-have-no-idea-238288
They can basically expose everything you have ever done on the Internet for the entire world to see........


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: #yolo on May 16, 2014, 04:06:08 PM
Google : They finally found out, Muahahahahah! You can't do anything however! Muahahah!
Super Hero (Apple,Microsoft,Government) : *Insert any over-used movie Hero Line*


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: strombert on May 17, 2014, 08:46:23 AM
this is so 2008 , c'mon !   ;D

http://donttrack.us/


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: r34tr783tr78 on May 17, 2014, 10:28:30 PM
I also use https://startpage.com, but even if they say they are powered by google, their results are more limited than the ones given by google.
Have no doubt that google can seriously undermine your privacy. Not only because they track your searches, but also because of gmail, google analytics and several of its other applications.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: pgbit on May 17, 2014, 10:38:18 PM
I stoped using google a year or so ago and went over to startpage instead. https://startpage.com/

Impressive. Although it uses Google, it queries it remotely, and it doesn't store IPs. Seems very fast and accurate. Worth looking at...


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: acs267 on May 17, 2014, 10:47:19 PM
Google might be evil, but I found out about Bitcoin via them. Awesome.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: bitsmichel on May 17, 2014, 11:33:03 PM
Their business model is based on selling (your) information and showing you ads. Basically they are trying to optimize this to make more profit.
Obviously this involves recording your searches (Google search), recording your everyday life (Google glass), recording your talks (Android phone), recording your business talks (Gmail), recording your appointments (Google calendar). They have the same business model as say Facebook, Microsoft (Skype/Hotmail), Yahoo and many others.

Sure, ideally you want a search engine where nothing gets recorded, you do not see advertisements, the search results are accurate and you do not pay a penny.  But.. how are you going to get money as company?


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: r34tr783tr78 on May 18, 2014, 12:08:07 AM
All of that, plus G+, where google finds out the real name, friends, profession, etc., from all of its members.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: BCwinning on May 18, 2014, 02:28:32 PM
Their business model is based on selling (your) information and showing you ads. Basically they are trying to optimize this to make more profit.
Obviously this involves recording your searches (Google search), recording your everyday life (Google glass), recording your talks (Android phone), recording your business talks (Gmail), recording your appointments (Google calendar). They have the same business model as say Facebook, Microsoft (Skype/Hotmail), Yahoo and many others.

Sure, ideally you want a search engine where nothing gets recorded, you do not see advertisements, the search results are accurate and you do not pay a penny.  But.. how are you going to get money as company?

www.startpage.com they seem to be doing ok making money.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: bitsmichel on May 18, 2014, 06:26:49 PM
Quote
www.startpage.com they seem to be doing ok making money.

They use the ad based model  :)


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: r34tr783tr78 on May 18, 2014, 07:00:19 PM
If you really concerned with your privacy use Tor, a open elite proxy or, at least, change the settings to remove all cookies after closing the browser.
If necessary, search for them to learn how to use them.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: AnimeBoy_007 on May 18, 2014, 10:54:00 PM
Yeah, you're right google is very creepy and evil. As some you had noticed this already that when you think about something to find on youtube that thing has appeared in youtube home. Even before you search. Google is also working with NSA. >:(  So Evil.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: bluefirecorp on May 18, 2014, 11:01:08 PM
Relevant XKCD:
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/password_reuse.png

No, but seriously. Google isn't evil, they're just fucking epic at what they do.

In this case, they are wonderful at collecting data, and using such data to generate income. Are they selling nuclear secrets to Russia? Probably not.


Title: Re: Google is evil
Post by: Nathonas on May 18, 2014, 11:05:25 PM
Google is a company. Companies aren't good or evil. Companies will do whatever it takes (within the moral limitations of the few people in control of said companies) to maximize profit. This doesn't mean they're always trying to rob the poor and murder baby elephants, but it means that the black/white and good/evil dichotomies are useless to try and understand them.