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Hello so after having so many issues with shibe coin and trying to get some idea of what's going on, I was finally able to get a bit of convo from the developer loq.


[07:25] <> Hello do you mind me asking why the wallets are always messed up and the coin is disabled all the time? The price is falling fast and everyone is saying is a scam coin now, I trusted you and put a lot of faith and money I this coin. I got my friends involved and they think I helped you rip them off, wtf man?
[08:01] <loq> I don't have time for this anymore, obviously you dint get it I don't care what you peons think!
[08:05] <> I just want to know what's going on, I'm hearing a lot of bad stuff about this coin, and the price falling and all the problems with the wallet? Are you just to busy to fix it or to incompetent?
[08:08] <loq> I am not obligated to any of you, you don't deserve of this coin! You peons don't deserve a working wallet, I can start another coin anytime!
[08:13] <loq> this isn't worth my time anymore
[08:13] <loq> you don't even understand
[08:15] <> so you don't care about the thousands of people whoy believed in your coin and lost out?
[08:18] <loq> what is wrong with your people, I have no obligation to you, your not worth my time anymore
[08:18] <loq> You are not worth my time, my time is my money.
[08:18] <> i can't believe your so cold and negative, just fix the wallets and get the coin right!
[08:18] <loq> you people just WANT free money from me?
[08:19] <> why are you behaving like that? you sound likeyour abandoning the coin? I'm sure your already made a fortune you scamming jerk
[08:19] <loq> i dont give a f#$! about any of you
[08:19] <loq> you needed to learn a lesson, I.hope you lost all your money! And guess what? I own your $ now ! From your poqqitz to mines! Haha loser is what you are
[08:20] <loq> YOU NEED TO LEARN THAT THEIR ARE MAKERS AND TAKERS, AND I'M BOTH....YOUR JUST A WEAKLING NOT WORTH MY TIME. HAVE FUN BEING POOR
[08:21] <> you will be punished by the karmic gods for your theft
[08:27] <loq> thanx for your money retard


I had to edit a bit of this because of loq's bad language, I'm not sure if we can post that here.

this is the same dev that creates most of the new coins around here .... he can't spend too much time on each of them. Once the premine/instamine is dumped why would he hang around?

Want good devs???

insist any premine is held by escrow level member and released gradually over time to the dev.

insist on fair launch protocol so there is no instamine.

Yes of course loq dumped. How could you not know that SHIBEcoin was a blatant scam?

I just can't believe how awful these people are, they steal and scam people and then when they ask them about it, they threaten them. And call them trolls and stuff, when in reality they are the trolls that are scamming everyone. Ask these new scam coins are ruining the future of a crypto economy and wide spread adoption. And why are there so many people on these forums that defend scammers like loq?

fuck off that text was so altered.. post a screenshot bud or are you butthurt you got banned from #shibecoin ;D

lol, right

loq has better english than that, and he's going full steam ahead with the SHIBEteam in IRC right now.

OP is a loser and has many sock puppets, and wants you to go buy whatever loser coins OP is holding bags for  :D

meanwhile, at OP's house..

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110414031852/m__/mssam/images/5/56/DisgustingToiletEver.jpg

This.

Everything about that coin screamed SCAAAAAAM!!! from Day 1. Its just another dogeclone, which itself is basically an LTC clone.

The only part worth discussing is the fact that this dev can come up with crafty coin names and marketing strategies.

is this a free coin?just hear about it

The posted log has been altered, rendering it completely invalid because you could have doctored it to make yourself look good.

Also worth noting- loq's actual holdings in shibe are small. He could easily dump it with next to no impact to the coin.

What matters is that he is available reliably to talk to if there are issues. In that regard he is doing very well, so much in fact that he had to take a little time away from the coin recently to settle some family matters.

I don't blame him at all for getting upset with people when they continue to throw stones at the shibe team, when everyone on it is doing all they can to keep shibe's value growing.

Technical issues happen- and it actually worked in our favor to have the exchanges turned off. They didn't shut them down because there was anything wrong, the devteam asked them to shut down because of concerns over the coin's stability. And it worked perfectly- while being observed for faults, the coin threw a fault while everyone was watching for one.

Because the exchanges were already down, the impacts of the issue were minimized a great deal. I think the only really significant losses were to the miners whose pools had been forked out.

As it stands the only issue remaining is the nagging issue of the blockchain not quite being at a reliable speed. And at this point time itself will fix that- people's stakes need more time to mature for reliable generation of PoS blocks.

Shibe entered full PoS ahead of schedule at block 5430 in order to solve three major problems- PoW instability/sticking, difficulty adjustment error due to a misconfiguration, and the high risk of forks caused by that misconfiguration. All three problems were solved by cutting off PoW ahead of schedule, and the only problem remaining is the early cutoff meant that people's stakes aren't quite mature enough for reliable block formation.

Time is fixing this last issue. I recieved a stake payout myself today as point of fact, and I hope to see many more.

So no, next time you post logs, post unaltered screenshots. Otherwise it is just some kid crying over getting banned from the IRC because he did something he shouldn't have.

I see there are still people defending this coin, I guess they are hoping it might go back up in value so they can sell sell sell. I'm confident that anyone with a brain will never be fooled by loq's scam coins again.

Hum well as much as I trust the opinion of a fellow named "ShibecoinSucks" on the subject of Shibecoin, I'm afraid this just does not jive with what I've seen by participating in their IRC chat room over the past week.

What I've seen is loq and energion basically ROCK in the face of the problems that came up and provide fixes faster than any software project I've seen in any field, pretty much ever.

So rock on Shibes. The coin has an undeserved bad rep. Please folks come to the IRC channel and see for yourselves.

This is all bullshit, btw. loq didn't dump shit, and like Odin said if he had it wouldn't hurt the market at all (especially with all my buy orders)

So many people have the sorest butts ever over this coin, and I can't even figure out why. Why not just buy in and make money with the rest of us that aren't idiots?

What other dev makes an interview and posts it on youtube with his real name?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jKpQPMns0E&feature=youtu.be

You guys and your FUD...

Wow you sound like you could be the next Jay Carney... That was a magnificent show. <insert golf clap here>

First of all, nothing is "keeping shibe's value growing." It is currently in the midst of a giant plummet, likely down to 0, because this coin has nothing interesting or novel about it. Its basically a copycat sales pitch by an e-cult leader. He must be providing you with some mighty fine tasting Kool Aid. Second of all, you do not back any of your points with tangible evidence. You are simply laying down a whole bunch of claims without providing any sort of proof to back them up.

In any case, word of advice to anyone who is thinking about taking this guy's advice seriously: please do your own research on ShibeCoin. Don't just assume this poster's words to be fact because he said them with such confidence. Don't give anybody too much of your trust here, it will bite you in the ass and make you all the more cynical of a person the next day.

"Hum well as much as I trust the opinion of a fellow named "ShibecoinSucks" on the subject of Shibecoin, I'm afraid this just does not jive with what I've seen by participating in their IRC chat room over the past week.

What I've seen is loq and energion basically ROCK in the face of the problems that came up and provide fixes faster than any software project I've seen in any field, pretty much ever.

So rock on Shibes. The coin has an undeserved bad rep. Please folks come to the IRC channel and see for yourselves."


Just so everyone knows loq has banned at least twenty people in the past week for asking why coins were missing from their wallets, why the blockchain isn't stable, why they lost coins they had mined, and multiple other questions about the faults and failures of Shibecoin. Loq doesn't deal with support, if someone is having an issue then they get banned. The #shibecoin channel is full of shibecoin bag holders and paid propagandists. If you go into that channel don't expect a fair and balanced conversation, you will only see the good things, like the supposed work that loq had been doing. The only work being done is loq's lackeys trying to pump the shibecoin so they can dump their coins on the people they fool. If you do a real search of these forums you'll see that there are only a small amount of the same people defending this coin. I've heard from an inside source that these people are paid directly to to respond to any issues that are brought up against shibecoin, also the source told me that loq has banned closer to 50 people in the past two weeks. This source of mine is an actual friend that is unfortunately a shibecoin bag holder and he's trying to stay active in the community to help it, but he's telling me right now about how the coin is really going to be dead soon and that a select few are trying really hard to get the coin back up in price so they can all dump their coins. He told me that they are doing everything they can, propaganda, market manipulation, and trying to make it look like they are creating teams and relationships and programs for the coin, but its all just really a farce to pump the last bit that can out of the coin.

Sorry if this new to any of you, but its the real truth and I know it might hurt, but you gotta take a step back and take a look at the whole thing. If you can be objective and reasonable with yourself without being emotional, then you'll realize that this shibecoin had been a rip off scam from the start.

There's a reason why this shitcoin has failed, which will soon become more and more obvious to those still defending this scam. It doesn't matter what you say, what matters is what you do. The facts show this was an insta-mine scam from the beginning and the 'dev' has zero credibility, just like his shitcoin.

Also, loq doesn't even type like that.

he has a better understanding of there/their/they're and your/you're.

Every great coin has haters.  Witness the band of fud'ing retards right here in this very thread  :D

> if someone is having an issue then they get banned

Is it possible for you to stop lying? I personally helped several people with this same issue to get their wallets synced. And I've seen others doing it over and over.

The world is shitty. Perhaps the world shits on you. But your anger is misdirected. Forks happen. Especially when the coin is attacked by losers like yourself with nothing better to do than make an account on BCT with the only goal of attacking a coin.

Like I said, it's the same people defending this coin every time. But if you look at the people who are telling the truth about this scam coin it's not the only thing they post about. You few people spend all your time trying to defend shibecoin, every single post you make is about shibecoin. Heck, it's probably just one person with multiple accounts,  while the rest of us are just normal people who are trying to rescue people from making a bad choice on shibecoin scams.

Dfletcher, (& friends)

I didn't make this account to shit on shibecoin, shibecoin shit all over itself. I didn't cause the problems, I'm just informing everyone about it.

But, it looks like you made an account to simply defend shibecoin.
And your doing a terrible job, but I can't fault you. It's mostly the coin that sucks, it's been possibly one of the worst managed coins in altcoin history. I'm going to smile and come back once everyone is in agreement that this coin is a failure and I'm going to show you this thread so you can remember how stupid you are. I imagine it'll be about one more week before this coin is widely recognised as a scam coin.

Hey Pysiek bro,

peon peon roqqitz kurwa peon.

Sincerely, the only person you admire.

lol  :D

i am not the same person whit multiple acounts
and i dont only talk about shibecoin ( check my history )

You should always do your own research and make your own decisions in crypto.

However, along those lines you should probably research who someone is before claiming they don't know what they are talking about. If you look into the IRC where this log supposedly took place, you will find the exact same username as I am posting under here on the chanop list for #shibecoin.

I've been with shibe from the start, and unlike loq I make a point of hearing out people's complaints and bringing them to the relevant people to be addressed. The only people I ban are those who spread obvious fud, those who spam, and those who have things explained repeatedly to them but continue to make the same fruitless complaint over and over without doing anything about it or even considering what might cause it.

Shibe is not without its flaws, but as someone who has known its devteam for several months prior I can say with confidence that shibe was not designed to be a scamcoin. It is the hard work of people who have a hard life, and it is an attempt to bring back some good times to the crypto community while also providing the little investors out there a chance to go places no other coin could take them.

Take it as you will, I'm sure you'll see me again if you ever poke into whitecoin- where a scamcoin was reborn through community effort into a coin that could go anywhere people see fit to take it. All I am doing is making a best effort approach to be sure both sides of the situation are heard, so that people can make their own decisions in fairness.

And as long as you don't simply repeat fud all the time or spam up the place, you are completely welcome to come to #shibecoin and talk like respectable people about your concerns. Maybe you'll find out that the bad reputation of shibe isn't as deserved as people would have you think. At its heart, it's a group of people that got together to have fun and make some money. I don't see anything at all wrong with that goal, these days with all the nonstop fud and scams out there it is something crypto really needs to have more of.

I think we need to come up with an acronym for all these scam coin defenders like OdinYgdd and Hollowman338.

We could call them PTP (PAID TO PUMP)  or  POS (Promoters of Scamcoins).


Or DICS (DECEIVING IN COIN SCAMS.

Or "guys who have been there since the beginning and see Shibe's potential"

That's the category I fall in.

..insists like i have said a thousand time in the last year that you avoid anon devs.. they are anon for a reason.
they will look bad if we knew just how many other coins they have released and what ones they were.
all on deaf ears you people in Crypto (Altcoins specifically) are hopeless and a waste of time
and i agree with him sorta because if your gonna be a moron then ya kiss your money goodbye.

you all made your bed now sleep in it.

defend scammy fucktard bullshit then you get what you get..
i have harped for a year on stuff like devs should not be permitted to get away with the scammy crap they pull
but you guys all 99.99% bend over backwards defending, supporting and making excuses for it all..





until




your the one who gets burned.. then you come here and cry like hypocritical babies.. too damn bad.  ::)

the new guys (kids) that flooded here in OCT/NOV ruined our scene and lowered the bar for the whole scene with their scam coin support and excuses.
1 year ago pretty much none of this crap would even get off the ground or be permitted..
hell a random anon dev would be laughed off the forum for using the name "<insert coin name>NAME"
Now you guys have a thousand feet of semen crusted on your faces from coin cloners and scammers lol
and now you all take your little turn bitching about it when it back fires on you and then want sympathy ? why should i give you any ?
You guys trolled me for a year as a fought against this crap pretty much by myself as i got ganged up on by the whole fucking scam-tard crypto world.

toilet swirls.. i now get to watch as the scene disintegrates and more and more people wander off quietly after dumping and ripping someone off on the way out the door.
you guys ruined it for all of us and Bitcoin itself and will not accept a shred of responsibility for any of it and will hide from the i told you so's.

the thing is, i registered here when scammy bs was rejected swiftly and
now you all have a thousand feet of cum dried and crusted on your faces from blowing scammers / cloners and a crap load of dumb excuses you routinely spout of for doing it all.
but but but i i i i i i made one BTC on insert scamcoin name.... yeah ? and the scammer / cloner made prob 50 BTC and you did the work pushing it for him.. congrats.
P & D

next..........

I'm not really following what your saying Spoetnik? I'm not trying to be a dick, I just don't really understand. Are you putting the blame on all the newbies that don't know anything about crypto? If so, you make a great point. I figured after these scam coins started becoming profitable that we would start seeing more and more of them. But there's got to be a way to stop this right? Or do wet JUST need to let these scam developers and idiot investors kill off the whole crypto scene? I'm not 100% sure but aren't you a coin developer to? Black coin right? Well this these scams like shibe and Asia Coin are making your legitimate deal look bad, it's making the while crypto scene look bad. We need leaders like you that have credibility to come out against these scam coins right from the start! Please, they are KILLING off the good coins with all this scamming and incompetence. Shibecoin had been disabled like 5 times this week, it's pure incompetence.

The original poster of this thread was already uncovered to be an under age 18 child named "Cheeto".  He was banned from the #shibecoin channel for being a SERIAL SCAMMER in the following thread that he locked after being exposed:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=605583

He joined the channel and begged for coins 24 hours a day, then would claim 5 minutes later someone stole all his coins so people needed to give him more.  After the guy who ran the tipbot ran off with the coins, he then blamed the developrs who had nothing to do with running the tipbot as being scammers that had "stolen" the coins from him.

I created a new thread for people to discuss "Cheeto" the serial scammer and worse human ever to grace cryptocurrency here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=611030.0


[19:54] <Cheeeto> Can i find some shibes in here>?
[19:54] <Cheeeto> lulz
[19:54] <kernels10> !tip Cheeeto 10
[19:54] <tipshibe> Such tip! kernels10 tipped Cheeeto 10 SHIBE! Very wow! "/msg tipshibe help" to claim.
[19:55] <Cheeeto> So is this coin legit? ive seen some reputable people say its the real deal, no scam
[19:55] <kernels10> its real
[19:55] <r0ach> it's real and going to 500-2000 once mintpal adds it lol
[19:55] <Cheeeto> ok thanks! for the tip too!
[19:55] <kernels10> np Smiley
[19:55] <Cheeeto> i thought it was at 200?

[14:46] <Cheeeto> Would someone spank me for being a idiot bastard?
[14:46] <Cheeeto> someone please spank me for my mistakes so i dont commit them again
[14:47] * kernels10 punches Cheeeto in the face a couple MORE times for good measure
[14:47] <Cheeeto> kernels10: now you can lick the cheese powder off your knuckels
[14:47] <kernels10> Cheesy
[14:47] <kernels10> !tip Cheeeto 20
[14:47] <+tipshibe> Such tip! kernels10 tipped Cheeeto 20 SHIBE! Very wow! "/msg tipshibe help" to claim.
[14:49] <Cheeeto> Smiley
[14:49] * Cheeeto treasures kernels10
[14:49] <kernels10> !tip Cheeeto 10 more
[14:49] <+tipshibe> Such tip! kernels10 tipped Cheeeto 10 SHIBE! Very wow! "/msg tipshibe help" to claim.
[14:49] * Cheeeto gets out the calculator again Cheesy
[14:50] * Cheeeto needed a shower, but the tears have cleansed his body
[14:50] <chopp> now look at all the cheese on the floor!
[14:50] <morrisonsa> !tip cheeeto 50
[14:50] <+tipshibe> Such tip! morrisonsa tipped cheeeto 50 SHIBE! Very wow! "/msg tipshibe help" to claim.
[14:50] <Cheeeto> morrisonsa: you just messed up my profit loss calculations!
[14:51] * Cheeeto 80 SHIBE puts Cheeto at 1/2 of what he has lost! i think....im terrible at math
[14:51] <Cheeeto> morrisonsa: thanks for the help!
[14:52] <Cheeeto> such love, much happy

[00:13] <Cheeeto> !balance
[00:13] <+tipshibe> cheeeto has 170.149502 SHIBE (unconfirmed: 0 SHIBE)
[00:13] <Cheeeto> thanks you guys so much! youve been so helpful after i lost out on my shibecoin earlier!
[00:13] <Cheeeto> I was so sad that i lost all that shibe, but now im almost even with your friendly tipping!

[00:25] <Cheeeto> yea i wish i could get tipped more, im such a poor shibe

[08:05] <Cheeeto> ANYONE FAncy me a tip?
[08:05] <Cheeeto> !balance
[08:05] <+tipshibe> cheeeto has 0 SHIBE (unconfirmed: 0 SHIBE)
[08:05] <Cheeeto> i have 0 shibe

[13:58] <Cheeeto> well shibecoin is a bust......thats great
[13:58] <Cheeeto> Sad
[13:59] <Cheeeto> idk, im glad i sold most of mine

[20:49] <Cheeeto> are all you guys pumping the coin?
[20:49] <Cheeeto> !balance
[20:49] <+tipshibe> Cheeeto: You need to be identified with NickServ to tip.
[20:50] <Cheeeto> !balance
[20:50] <+tipshibe> cheeeto has 50.21148 SHIBE (unconfirmed: 0 SHIBE)
[20:50] <Cheeeto> can i get some shibe coin so i can help pump!

[11:08] * Cheeeto (18d2fc54@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.210.252.84) has joined #shibecoin
[11:09] <Cheeeto> !balace
[11:09] <Cheeeto> !balance
[11:09] <+ShibeTipper> cheeeto has 0 SHIBE (unconfirmed: 0 SHIBE)
[11:09] <Cheeeto> omg i only have 0 shibe
[11:09] <Cheeeto> wtf i thought i had hundred?

[21:51] * Cheeeto (18d2fc54@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.210.252.84) has joined #shibecoin
[21:52] <Cheeeto> WHY IS THIS SO GAY
[21:52] <@OdinYggd> Most of it actually got passed around in here as tip rain
[21:52] <Cheeeto> !balance
[21:53] <Cheeeto> what is this crap about loq talking to the bot?
[21:53] <@OdinYggd> The new one appears to have gotten kicked off of freenode for flooding
[21:53] <@OdinYggd> Someone tried to tip 350 people at once with it
[21:53] <Cheeeto> the bot stole the funds?
[21:53] <@OdinYggd> That was the previous bot, run by a scammer who actually did run off with the bot's wallet
[21:53] <@OdinYggd> Said bot has been taken out of service
[21:53] <Cheeeto> which bot?
[21:53] <@OdinYggd> tipshibe
[21:54] <AngryAdmin> OdinYggd: got the reciepts?
[21:54] <Wonderz> what happened?
[21:54] <@OdinYggd> shibetipper is the replacement, we're trying to figure out why it won't reconnect
[21:54] <Cheeeto> so all my shibecoin got stolen?
[21:54] <@OdinYggd> I think it activated an anti-flooding feature on freenode and got kicked off
[21:54] <Cheeeto> Sad
[21:54] <Xuthus> lol, i'm not trolling but keep laughing guys.... you will see later
[21:54] <Cheeeto> this is damn bullshit

[12:30] * Cheeeto (18d2fc54@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.24.210.252.84) has joined #shibecoin
[12:30] <Cheeeto> anymore tipbot scams recently?
[12:30] <Cheeeto> !balance
[12:30] <+ShibeTipper> cheeeto has 0 SHIBE (unconfirmed: 0 SHIBE)
[12:30] <Cheeeto> figures
[12:30] <kernels10> Cheeeto: go to \
[12:31] <Cheeeto> all my shibe were stolen
[12:31] <kernels10> /join ##tipbots
[12:31] <Cheeeto> whats that for
[12:31] <kernels10> dev is in there
[12:31] <kernels10> bot dev
[12:31] <kernels10> you can get your coins
[12:31] <kernels10> we have a new tipbot here

[17:40] * Cheeeto (18d2fc54@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.210.252.84) has joined #shibecoin
[17:40] <lumpinator> is the staking working?
[17:40] <Cheeeto> !balance
[17:40] <+ShibeTipper> cheeeto has 0 SHIBE (unconfirmed: 0 SHIBE)
[17:40] <Cheeeto> arrrrghhh

[22:38] <Cheeeto> !balance
[22:38] <@OdinYggd> Staking is automatic
[22:38] <Cheeeto> no balance?
[22:38] <@OdinYggd> Staking should already be happening- wallet just needs to be open and unlocked
[22:38] <+ShibeTipper> cheeeto has 0 SHIBE (unconfirmed: 0 SHIBE)
[22:38] <Cheeeto> WHAT?
[22:38] <Cheeeto> no SHIBE?
[22:38] <@loq> we have a new bot
[22:38] <Cheeeto> what happend to my shibe?
[22:38] <@OdinYggd> When were you here last?
[22:38] <Cheeeto> stolen again?
[22:38] <@OdinYggd> tipshibe is dead
[22:38] <Cheeeto> im here forever!
[22:39] <@OdinYggd> Shibetipper should be fine
[22:39] <Cheeeto> the tipshibe bot was empty to
[22:39] <@loq> we have a new bot
[22:39] <@loq> nobody stole your coins
[22:39] <@loq> !balance
[22:39] <Cheeeto> ive been screwed to the brain
[22:39] <+ShibeTipper> loq has 43.52804 SHIBE (unconfirmed: 0 SHIBE)
[22:39] <@OdinYggd> !balance
[22:39] <+ShibeTipper> odinyggd has 114.378696 SHIBE (unconfirmed: 0 SHIBE)
[22:39] <Cheeeto> such shame

So this is all because he never PMed unek and asked for his sixty-three cents worth of Shibe?

Amazing.

Ahhh... r0ach still doesn't understand that after being told about ten times that I never cared about the stolen coins, but I did care about how loq attacked and threatened me. And now you call me a scammer and a child and all these things....where exactly can you prove I scammed anyone?

Did you post the logs where people told me that the tip coins were scammed? And stolen? No. Did you post the logs where I said I didn't care? No.

You posted doctored logs to make me look like a beggar, when I was only using the coins to help tip others and try to pump up the coin. Even if I have acted like a fool, I'm not the developer of Shibecoin. The developer loq is an obvious nut case based on the conversations that many have had with him.

But r0ach has continued to try to defend the whole situation by saying it's all about the tip bot scam.

IT WASN'T.

IT WAS LOQ THREATENING ME.

AND THEN LATER LOQ SAYING TERRIBLE THINGS LIKE HE DIDN'T CARE ABOUT THE PROBLEMS PEOPLE WERE HAVING WITH SHIBECOIN.


No matter what, the coin still sucks and continues to be disabled or banned on most markets.

Such a terrible coin

http://imgur.com/3WmyUda




This is the guy who scammed you. I hope for him he's using a fake name and people don't start a campaing and find where he lives. I feel sorry for him, but how can he be so dumb?

http://imgur.com/3WmyUda

omg it's just madness

maybe they doing something new, I will hold my shibe coins

If you really believe this then you haven't been around for long, or have a poor memory.

Guys I have had my fair share of buying shitcoins at one stage, I finally found a coin that is actually making progress without shouting it's mouth off to the world. You can take a look if your interested.
I know the feeling of backing a coin where the dev abandons it and it's a pretty sinking one.

As a community we should start getting behind coins that are promoting cryptos, not coins that just are "innovating" the block chain. At the end of the day currencies are simple, money is simple. It's not about building a rocket to the moon.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554412.0