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Title: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: teflone on January 26, 2012, 05:51:47 PM
They will vanish like a fart in the breeze, and cause even more panic selling..

Watch!, and grab your cameras..


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: proudhon on January 26, 2012, 05:54:35 PM
They will vanish like a fart in the breeze, and cause even more panic selling..

Watch!, and grab your cameras..

Watching...


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: SaintFlow on January 26, 2012, 05:54:47 PM
i think it will hold.
  ::)
at this point the manipulator is asked to show some more dedication


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: teflone on January 26, 2012, 05:56:26 PM
Just a couple more bounces off it, the guy with the money at 5.40 and 5.20 will get a text on his phone..

Then.. he will show direction/dedication

Its easy with gravity..


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: StewartJ on January 26, 2012, 05:59:44 PM
They will vanish like a fart in the breeze, and cause even more panic selling..

Watch!, and grab your cameras..

Guessing the $5.20 wall would melt away too.


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Serge on January 26, 2012, 06:25:10 PM
or...

get this wall eaten, remove asks, get a rally going, sell into it 40-50 cents or even dollar above, put a new wall...

there is no point driving market close or below $5 - it may look like it could be better profits but no one knows how long we'll be stuck in there

besides he maybe catching plenty before the wall too along with everybody else


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: StewartJ on January 26, 2012, 06:38:57 PM
If the $5.40 wall disappears, you will hear the evil Smack-Down Witch screaming, "I'm melting... !!!"


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Serge on January 26, 2012, 06:41:02 PM
you people are nuts

i don't know who is worse, the whale or the herd , leaning towards the latter


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Edward50 on January 26, 2012, 06:41:33 PM
Hmm, looks like the $5.4 wall is still holding.

I wish there was a way, or if someone can keep track of what walls disapear vs get sold into.

Bid 4.15 654.52
Bid 4.2 6600.52
Bid 4.25 457.79
Bid 4.3 1701.47
Bid 4.35 3461.87
Bid 4.4 4596.83
Bid 4.45 917.46
Bid 4.5 11060.92  
Bid 4.55 1830.3
Bid 4.6 2791.11
Bid 4.65 6038.71
Bid 4.7 4330.89
Bid 4.75 1960.29
Bid 4.8 7583.75
Bid 4.85 2044.72
Bid 4.9 983.35
Bid 4.95 218.8
Bid 5 6161.26
Bid 5.05 1588.01
Bid 5.1 5683
Bid 5.15 242.86
Bid 5.2 13768.42  
Bid 5.25 1561.58
Bid 5.3 2469.79
Bid 5.35 756.78
Bid 5.4 9943.22  
Bid 5.45 34.11


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Mushoz on January 26, 2012, 06:44:03 PM
Hmm, looks like the $5.4 wall is still holding.

I wish there was a way, or if someone can keep track of what walls disapear vs get sold into.

Bid 4.15 654.52
Bid 4.2 6600.52
Bid 4.25 457.79
Bid 4.3 1701.47
Bid 4.35 3461.87
Bid 4.4 4596.83
Bid 4.45 917.46
Bid 4.5 11060.92  
Bid 4.55 1830.3
Bid 4.6 2791.11
Bid 4.65 6038.71
Bid 4.7 4330.89
Bid 4.75 1960.29
Bid 4.8 7583.75
Bid 4.85 2044.72
Bid 4.9 983.35
Bid 4.95 218.8
Bid 5 6161.26
Bid 5.05 1588.01
Bid 5.1 5683
Bid 5.15 242.86
Bid 5.2 13768.42  
Bid 5.25 1561.58
Bid 5.3 2469.79
Bid 5.35 756.78
Bid 5.4 9943.22  
Bid 5.45 34.11


Just look at the volume once we pass a wall. If there isn't much, it was taken down. If there's suddenly a 10k volume bar when the price passes it, you can bet that it got sold into ;)


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Edward50 on January 26, 2012, 06:51:41 PM
Holy crap guys, the manipulator added to the wall, it went from 9400 to 34000!

Post above was 10 minutes go, he did this within the last 10 minutes. He doesn't want the price to fall back down!


Bid 4.95 220.85
Bid 5 6463.93
Bid 5.05 1301.53
Bid 5.1 5679.94
Bid 5.15 238.07
Bid 5.2 13766.59
Bid 5.25 1650.43
Bid 5.3 2460.22
Bid 5.35 783.59
Bid 5.4 33958.83  
Bid 5.45 5147.53
Bid 5.5 76.09
Bid 5.55 140
Bid 5.6 514.6


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: proudhon on January 26, 2012, 06:54:53 PM
Holy crap guys, the manipulator added to the wall, it went from 9400 to 34000!

Post above was 10 minutes go, he did this within the last 10 minutes. He doesn't want the price to fall back down!


Bid 4.95 220.85
Bid 5 6463.93
Bid 5.05 1301.53
Bid 5.1 5679.94
Bid 5.15 238.07
Bid 5.2 13766.59
Bid 5.25 1650.43
Bid 5.3 2460.22
Bid 5.35 783.59
Bid 5.4 33958.83  
Bid 5.45 5147.53
Bid 5.5 76.09
Bid 5.55 140
Bid 5.6 514.6


Or, he's fooling people into building volume up ahead of his bids so he can sell into it.


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Serge on January 26, 2012, 06:57:32 PM
Holy crap guys, the manipulator added to the wall, it went from 9400 to 34000!



the guy has plenty of USD and BTC, shearing little by little the herd  which panics on slightest movement.  

the herd is happy to sell-off every chance it gets running after tiniest gains, and always behind



Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: phelix on January 26, 2012, 07:01:32 PM
I don't think he will let us down - not today.

His wall marks the three month log support line. If it holds the price might rise significantly again. And then he can start the game again at a higher level.


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Serge on January 26, 2012, 07:02:04 PM
I don't think he will let us down - not today.

His wall marks the three month log support line. If it holds the price might rise significantly again. And then he can start the game again at a higher level.

exactly


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: phelix on January 26, 2012, 07:05:49 PM
btw: thanks for the fun mr mAnipulator!



Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: sgbett on January 26, 2012, 07:08:55 PM
it was done with USD from bitcoinica the * is up


SQUIZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Bitcoinica doesn't show on gox


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: sgbett on January 26, 2012, 07:17:01 PM
sure I hadn't thought of it that way :)


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: StewartJ on January 26, 2012, 07:26:43 PM
I don't think he will let us down - not today.

His wall marks the three month log support line. If it holds the price might rise significantly again. And then he can start the game again at a higher level.

So maybe the train is coming at 5.40. (glad these tickets are refundable)


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Edward50 on January 26, 2012, 07:30:26 PM
WTF is going on here. The wall at 5.4 is down, and is back to 15,000.

Can someone explain how the wall went from 10,000 to 38,000 now to 15,000?

Shit I should have made a note of the volume.


Volume right now 116,000

Bid 5.05 1287.93
Bid 5.1 5674.32
Bid 5.15 237.5
Bid 5.2 13825.18
Bid 5.25 1698.69
Bid 5.3 2457.29
Bid 5.35 777.06
Bid 5.4 15452.19  
Bid 5.45 167.59
Bid 5.5 344.72
Bid 5.55 34.73


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Savior on January 26, 2012, 07:34:04 PM
A nice chance to unload at 5.55 now.

He really wants the price up :O


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: YoYa on January 26, 2012, 07:36:07 PM
WTF is going on here. The wall at 5.4 is down, and is back to 15,000.

Can someone explain how the wall went from 10,000 to 38,000 now to 15,000?

Shit I should have made a note of the volume.


Volume right now 116,000

Bid 5.05 1287.93
Bid 5.1 5674.32
Bid 5.15 237.5
Bid 5.2 13825.18
Bid 5.25 1698.69
Bid 5.3 2457.29
Bid 5.35 777.06
Bid 5.4 15452.19  Bid 5.45 167.59
Bid 5.5 344.72
Bid 5.55 34.73


Someone really doesn't want the price to go below a certain level.

Quite interesting in that sense, there's scheming to keep the averages high, generate the right signals, trigger the rally and dump at a point we don't know yet.......that my friend is the billion dollar question.


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: StewartJ on January 26, 2012, 08:25:24 PM
At $5.40, order book showed us at 8994, went ahead and bid 6 to make her an even 9000.


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Spekulatius on January 26, 2012, 08:28:55 PM
I don't think he will let us down - not today.

His wall marks the three month log support line. If it holds the price might rise significantly again. And then he can start the game again at a higher level.

exactly

On a natural (not Log-) scaled chart the 3 month support is around 4.80 USD to date and looks more stable to me. The Log scaled one has also been broken anyways.

*too lazy to upload a graph*


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: ineededausername on January 26, 2012, 08:31:42 PM
who the hell are these derps going long on bitcoinica?!  Why do I see a star




Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: YoYa on January 26, 2012, 08:36:44 PM
who the hell are these derps going long on bitcoinica?!  Why do I see a star

Guilty....tho the position is tiny. All the same, if someone is willing to smack down 10K BTC at 5.4, I'm happy to ride their coat-tails. I'll also be extremely happy to jump at the first sign of trouble. I'm generally happy :P


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Mushoz on January 26, 2012, 08:40:27 PM
I don't think he will let us down - not today.

His wall marks the three month log support line. If it holds the price might rise significantly again. And then he can start the game again at a higher level.

exactly

On a natural (not Log-) scaled chart the 3 month support is around 4.80 USD to date and looks more stable to me. The Log scaled one has also been broken anyways.

*too lazy to upload a graph*

This one looks familiar? :)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61105.msg714791#msg714791


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: teflone on January 26, 2012, 08:48:36 PM
who the hell are these derps going long on bitcoinica?!  Why do I see a star




I know eh... my god..

what is wrong?

Me thinks the manipulator has the lock down on the starfish...

Think about it...


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: StewartJ on January 26, 2012, 10:20:10 PM
Is this a learning moment?   

:)


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: rebuilder on January 26, 2012, 10:45:14 PM
Is it time to start taking bets on when the first Church of the Manipulator will be founded?


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Electricbees on January 26, 2012, 11:04:53 PM
The wall is down...


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: bb113 on January 26, 2012, 11:08:06 PM
It was real, I saw the 8k bitcoins go


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: kronosvl on January 26, 2012, 11:20:18 PM
nice
had an order for long at 5.5 and got it at 5.36


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Koekiemonster on January 26, 2012, 11:21:50 PM
Interesting to see what happens next. Cheap coins for mister manipulator?


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: bracek on January 26, 2012, 11:29:44 PM
The wall is down...

and weekend coming ...


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Electricbees on January 26, 2012, 11:32:45 PM
The wall is down...

and weekend coming ...
Down we go!  :-\


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: Vandroiy on January 26, 2012, 11:37:41 PM
Someone really doesn't want the price to go below a certain level.

Quite interesting in that sense, there's scheming to keep the averages high, generate the right signals, trigger the rally and dump at a point we don't know yet.......that my friend is the billion dollar question.

I have no idea about your theories, but remember Bitcoinica? They re-filled to full usage of their reserves in a small price range in the rally after the initial bursting of the echo bubble. There should be a lot of people who do not want that wall going down right now.

Makes me wonder why no big trader hasn't lost their nerves and dumped yet. I probably would have, and I'm not exactly the person to get shaken by price charts easily. Maybe there's more info to Bitcoinica volume than I have, or something about large players...

... or they just didn't notice, and it might blow up at random. Note that I would not be confident of a bounce if that happens.

Then again, it would be so idiotic, I must have overlooked something... right? Right?? lol :P


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: bracek on January 26, 2012, 11:46:27 PM
why is this not stopping ?

http://bitcoinstats.org/count.html

I mean, where are those installations ?
waiting to release at 25 usd per btc ?


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: teflone on January 27, 2012, 12:38:53 AM
the only good thing is, that these large orders are being filled to BTC, that must mean, they have to manipulate it back up before they rinse and repeat.. :)


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: StewartJ on January 27, 2012, 12:46:48 AM


also wee need to test the wall at 5.20, fake or is real that is the question?

Looks like we have same quantity at $5.20, about 10K btc. 

That's gotta be the back-stop...or else...



Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: proudhon on January 27, 2012, 12:50:52 AM
the only good thing is, that these large orders are being filled to BTC, that must mean, they have to manipulate it back up before they rinse and repeat.. :)

Unless they're the loser manipulators.


Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: teflone on January 27, 2012, 12:58:16 AM
the only good thing is, that these large orders are being filled to BTC, that must mean, they have to manipulate it back up before they rinse and repeat.. :)

Unless they're the loser manipulators.

Do you honestly think they are losing ? 

Nahhhh didnt think so..

This is all a clever bamboozle, this is an exploitation of bitcoinica..
Takes money to make money, and we dont have enough..



Title: Re: Hitting manipulators walls.. 5.40, the next thing that will happen is....
Post by: phelix on January 27, 2012, 07:13:04 AM
the only good thing is, that these large orders are being filled to BTC, that must mean, they have to manipulate it back up before they rinse and repeat.. :)

Unless they're the loser manipulators.

Do you honestly think they are losing ? 

Nahhhh didnt think so..

This is all a clever bamboozle, this is an exploitation of bitcoinica..
Takes money to make money, and we dont have enough..


maybe it is possible to somehow ride Mr M's train...