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I bought 25 dark coins at 60 cents.. the price is retracting back to $10..

Sell all..

Sell half..

HODL.. ?

SLLE asap!

Sell now and never buy again

Just like the others said: sell.

A few weeks back, I bought some cheap blackcoin at 3000 satoshis. At 90000 satoshis, I refused to sell. Look where it is now. Don't let it happen to you.

Can anyone show me one shitcoin that ever recovered from it's initial pump n dump?

Hello, due to the actual unfortunate state of crypto regarding many scams, we decided to start a wave of trust. We ended in the conclusion that development teams , specifically ones involving IPOs, have to provide transparency and some form of collateral. The initiative of doing PODs is very good but as we know now; third party POD providers can miss some details when regarding to secure the deal besides that they will only release documents in case of a special request.

Well, now we know that anonymity over here is very important but regarding to IPOs/Crowdfundings, we think that as any other investment group, company or society, where the leaders of the project are public persons, crypto crowd-funding need to be similar, investors need to know with who are they dealing because they are trusting their money to them, investors cant keep investing in random internet developments without even being sure of the full name of IPO manager. With normal coins we know the devs may want to be fully anonymous (and not all) and they have their right but at least regarding to crowdfundings the actual situation is wrong, lack of security is bringing mostly dishonest and incompent devs to the table and its slowing real innovation, crypto crowdfundings can boost and speed up a sucessful project and they create decentralized companies/projects; in this way fighting the monopolization but only if its ruled by competency, honesty, enthusiasm and trust.

So we thought of adding a new layer of trust where many dishonest, straight scammers or incompetent devs can remain outside of this circle, where the devs cant just sit down inerts after IPO regardless if the coin/project is having profit or not. The team must continue giving the extra mile during all development, and being public will help or in last case "force" to give it, and help to stop straight scams.


At least regarding crowdfundings, we think this is necessary, so we are starting with making our identities public, a Public PoD , and using this real bct account used by me and my brother in the past, we have nothing to hide and we have nothing to fear regarding our roadmap and coin, we have the skills and did enough research to know that our platform can fill what we are stating and through milestones we will be able to make it live in less than 15 days. We think crypto users should demand this kind of assurance.

I am Matthew Adair and the project consist of 3 people but I'm the leader and inventor of the whole map of Vocal, the only one with access to funds and important passwords, the future decisions will be made mostly by me but taking advice from other members, the activity on this forum will always be managed by me, on special cases if something deducts my ability to do it, i will put the right person on it but the actvity should always be high. I will always hire/make part of the team more specialized people if needed.

My ID and actual address is now public here (http://vocalplatform.com/Downloads/matthew.png)
Maybe i will show some picture of a kind of video to assure my identity.

The other member is Diogo Rodriguez BCT profile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205103), who sent documents to Coins source too, his twitter is @spofas (https://twitter.com/spofas) since 2012, he is a website developer specialized on design (he's the one making our website platform to look good).

We have another coder in our starting team with vastly experience over many code languages, he mainly will work in the final stage of the platform and a formal presentation of him will be given close to that date.

Our first Artist, Rumich, wanted to be part of the team , besides of making music now we are going to have him as a music advicer and he wants to be fully transparent too.

Here is his ID see it here (http://vocalplatform.com/Downloads/rumich.png)

We will add more details to the public PoD on upcoming days, and with all that now i end this communicate and we urge the members to start changing this forum by making wise decisions when participating on coins/projects.

Thank you , Vocal CEO


I am Matthew Adair and the project consist of 3 people but I'm the leader and inventor of the whole map of Vocal, the only one with access to funds and important passwords, the future decisions will be made mostly by me but taking advice from other members, the activity on this forum will always be managed by me, on special cases if something deducts my ability to do it, i will put the right person on it but the actvity should always be high. I will always hire/make part of the team more specialized people if needed.

My ID and actual address is now public here (http://vocalplatform.com/Downloads/matthew.png)
Maybe i will show some picture of a kind of video to assure my identity.

The other member is Diogo Rodriguez BCT profile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205103), who sent documents to Coins source too, his twitter is @spofas (https://twitter.com/spofas) since 2012, he is a website developer specialized on design (he's the one making our website platform to look good).

We have another coder in our starting team with vastly experience over many code languages, he mainly will work in the final stage of the platform and a formal presentation of him will be given close to that date.

Our first Artist, Rumich, wanted to be part of the team , besides of making music now we are going to have him as a music advicer and he wants to be fully transparent too.

Here is his ID see it here (http://vocalplatform.com/Downloads/rumich.png)

We will add more details to the public PoD on upcoming days.

Thank you , Vocal CEO

That double-top screams "sell" to me, but maybe that's just me. (I don't own any DRK).

Looking at the DRK thread it appears that there is an issue with the planned fork that has people panicking.

But maybe the whole thing is a pump and dump.

Do research before investing to find out the answers you need! :)

Nope..

i was in  the same spot with sexcoin.. sold about 35% (BEST CHOICE EVER) it competely collapsed..

KK selling 2night, prolly only half.. I'm a bit of a  HODLER.. :S.

Wow,the first time you are absolute right

They're like pumped penny-stocks.

I'm playing two games with crypto right now actually..

1) The hold game.. buy and hold BTC and a few other ALTs that have been on top for a bit (LTC,DOGE,PPC) The odds of me ever seling my BTC holdings are almost zero.

2) The trade game.. I'm pretty much even with this..  sexcoin exploded for me.. casioncoin and pheonixcoin.. well to zero lol.. Americancoin is still just who knows and darkcoin which is probably now a good time to sell.

Just figure I would come get some opinions!

DRK was a great buy if you got in early but i'm not sure if the HODL mentality works the same as for BTC, haha. i'd dump on the next bounce, and i'd set the asks high because those altcoin chasers are crazy!!

Lucky you only said one, I can't think of any others: Dogecoin.

A scam coin that tries to use (legitimate? yeah right) negative news as a valid reason for the bubble pop (instead of the fact that it's really an over-hyped PnD)?  Say it ain't so!  ;)

I call it'll be @ < $6 by August.

there's always litecoin!! how about peercoin and namecoin?

some of the innovations in coins like ethereum, NXT, MRO and even DRK (most of these were all premined except MRO i think which is partly their downfall) are interesting and can't necessarily be coded into BTC if only because of monolithic/centralized nature of the bitcoin devs and the foundation. so there may be value there.

Just because you say so? Prove it.

He said shitcoins. LTC, PPC and NMC are not.

You like the coins I have decided to hold than?  

My playing with smallcoins is just that... playing.

Well that's not really something that you can prove or disprove. But I do agree that there is a lot of centralization around the development of BTC protocol, the Bitcoin Foundation has shown it will bow to government authority. So thought experiment: How would we go about having the bitcoin protocol adopt a tumbling blockchain, or other anonymizing features?

Thanks for reminding me as I had 100 Dick ....sorry i meant DARK coins lying around that i just liquidated on cryptsy...

I agree I think we are at the top of PUMP cycle ..Once pplz stop and think about a coin designed for DRUGS, Money Laundering and Terrorist Activities they may start to wonder why they are being followed


..lolz

P.S Good luck trying to get an exchange who uses Banks & USD to accept DarkCoin

P.P.S It has its place ...just like whores gotta smoke da CraCk ...but to say "KING OF THE ALTS" nigga please ... :D

Sell and quickly to, It went up like crazy and it will go down anytime.
Dont make the same mistake as me sell when there is a crazy pump.
Because soon when the price is down you will think damn I shouldve sold.

People act like this one feature of a truly anonymous coin is going to somehow catapult it to a multi-hundred million USD valuation overnight, when they forget that this so called "feature" can be replicated over and over by other new alt-coins as well.  There will be more of these silly coin-offs every couple of months, all saying "No I can do anonymity the BESTEST EVAR!!"  I predict that by this same time next year, that there will be over 50+ so called "Dark" or "Anonymous" alt coins, all claiming to do something special from the others and continuing to dilute each other's market share.  Meanwhile, bitcoiners that want some level of anonymity will just use a combo of add-on techs like Tor, CoinJoin, and Dark Wallet to essentially do the same damn thing with their bitcoin.  Big deal.

Forget new altcoins: Bitcoin will integrate w/e is found to be valuable.

Sell 20 keep 5...maybe you will get half a btc for these coins in few months.

Are these real coin names? Lol, no wonder nobody takes altcoins seriously. My next one will be called altcoins_have_jumped_the_shark_coin.

Yes, these are in fact real.

LMFAO

More easily said than done (from a software POV - not even to mention politics)...

I think that'll have to take place with extra layers built on top. The devs have proven to be very conservative and rightly so considering what often goes down in alt world.

If you think those are shitcoins all altcoins are shitcoin. Those are the only 3 I don't consider shitcoins.

Where do you draw the line?

Created for a specific purpose which at least has the possibility of being useful.

And how are LTC & PPC useful?
And why not choose an enhanced clone of them?

LTC Scrypt
PPC PoS

No clones because of first mover advantage.

PPC <> PoS

Scrypt with ASICS, right...

Peercoin, has proof of Stake.

ASICs don't harm Scrypt mining, in fact they make it more secure just as for Bitcoin. Litecoin is Bitcoins failsafe.

You do understand that your arguments are very 2012 era?

They held true then, they hold true now.

Good luck then - I have no issues with LTC, PPC, NMC or any alt.
I don't mind if BTC will be the only one someday too nor if another one will take it's place.

I am here to use these coins to make more USD - some of these coins have their uses and I will use them (Ripple is fast, NXT has the Asset Exchange, an anonymous coin is always useful etc.)

Still haven't seen the coin that I will BELIEVE in it.

But I dare to say that I am more open minded for exactly the reasons I mentioned and don't have illusions about any coin.

Easy come easy go for all of them...

I no longer hold any altcoin. I sold all my LTC and PPC (not that much) on their peak 5/6 months ago. (and the little NMC I had way before that).

To put it another way -

'Nothing is true, everything is permitted', Hassan i Sabbah

awww no one will read :(.

I sold half of me darkcoins.. I couldn't part with the other half..

i think you must hold that . until the end of half price . or going -40%  because who know the price willing up or not

Nobody knows for certain what will happen. At least you have a nice profit and a stash of half your coins in case they do go up sometime.

Sell at least most now and buy again cheaper if you feel so inclined...

Sell your DRK is my advice.

there is only one coin to hold here, Bitcoin, the rest are just P&D with more dump than pump

or NXT, you cant pump it, only buy it ;)

“It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts... For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.”


Not a single decentralized currency will succeed. Case one: THE currency "succeed" until its widely enough accepted/inflated and governments realize they have no choice than to forbid. After this, people realize why we need inflation (on commodities) and deflationary currency. Case two: its never going to be mass adopted because the lack of trust in decentralization. Case three: quantum computing ruins everything sooner than we wish.

Winners realize its all illusion before the siren goes off, probably somewhere around 2050, and already have enough basic knowledge to understand each and every investment in new VC is just a gamble.

I keep considering NXT..  say Vault of Satohsi doens't deal with it and it's centralized isn't it?

sell

now！！！！

Ive come to the conclusion that NXT is the only way to go.  :D

PoS coins cannot be decentralized. Early investors/exchanges who sold can always produce an alternate chain with their sold stake and reverse the chain. PoS cannot be decentralized. Dont get caught by hype. Qora is the new hype now.. Wonder when it will stop...

Oh.. I thought PPC was not centralized...?!

If I really believe in the value of a coin I sell 50% of it for the profit and keep the other 50% for the long-term. For other coins I do opportunistic trading only.