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Post by: TorrentMaster on February 08, 2012, 11:56:02 PM
Anyone that has purchased from me that is not happy with what you got PM me and I'll kindly return your btc.


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: Hunterbunter on February 08, 2012, 11:57:53 PM
You'd have more luck using your awesome method acquiring all said kindles then selling them for btc.


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: RandyFolds on February 09, 2012, 12:30:52 AM
I'll take a copy and post my review on it, free of charge.  ;D


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: Raoul Duke on February 09, 2012, 12:33:23 AM
I'll take the other review copy ;)


Thanks


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: Blind on February 09, 2012, 02:11:22 AM
And I'll just sit here waiting for the review =P


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: SomeoneWeird on February 09, 2012, 02:22:13 AM
One more review copy? :3


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: deepceleron on February 09, 2012, 03:43:16 AM
Euphemism above is not correct English:

Social Engineering: Using human interaction (social skills) to obtain or compromise information about an organization or its computer systems.

Fraud: Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: Miner612 on February 09, 2012, 04:27:48 AM
This worked perfectly fine for me.  Getting my Kindle shipped to me as we speak.

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Erin:I'll get that started up for you.
A valid credit card is required for collateral since a replacement is being issued before returned items are received. Could I please have the last 4 digits of the card on this account that I could use for collateral? We may authorize up to $1 to verify the selected card is valid, however the card will not be charged as long as we receive that defective device within 30 days from today.
Me:Thank you.
Yeah one second please. I need to grab my wallet.
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Erin:Perfect, thank you. What address would you like this shipped to?



Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: Miner612 on February 09, 2012, 05:11:51 AM
no prob ... i wanna send you another coin to get more lol email me


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: tysat on February 10, 2012, 05:02:08 PM
Seems like a scam, awaiting a response from someone with a free review before passing judgement.


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: Maged on February 10, 2012, 05:14:06 PM
Seems like a scam, awaiting a response from someone with a free review before passing judgement.
It's not really a scam, as far as I know. From the looks of it, you'll get it for free initially, but you'll have to pay for it 30 days later. That being said, I'm too nice of a person to try it myself.


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: deepceleron on February 10, 2012, 07:21:45 PM
Reading between the lines, it is getting an advance RMA using someone else's serial number (likely gleaned from shelf surfing a retail store). When they don't receive back the old Kindle, your credit card will be charged.


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: Miner612 on February 11, 2012, 08:54:18 PM
My friend did this too, with his account, his bank and everything, just like me, and they are sending him one too hahahah


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on February 11, 2012, 09:30:30 PM
This is also available on Silk Road for 0.01btc if you're that way inclined.   


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: Nancarrow on February 12, 2012, 07:00:43 PM
It's pretty bloody obvious that 'social engineering' is a (completely useless) euphemism for 'scamming'.


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: JacobMarks on February 13, 2012, 02:13:53 AM
So, amazon specifically SAY they're going to wait for you to send yours back and charge you if they don't get it, and then they don't?
Seems odd?


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: DannyM on February 13, 2012, 02:16:16 PM
So this is stealing?


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: jake262144 on February 13, 2012, 03:09:55 PM
So this is stealing?
Yes, no matter how nicely OP dresses it in words.

Fraud: Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.
Correct.


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: Nancarrow on February 14, 2012, 12:31:00 AM
It's pretty bloody obvious that 'social engineering' is a (completely useless) euphemism for 'scamming'.
I wouldn't say it's completely useless.

Sorry, I didn't express myself clearly. I didn't mean to imply the act of social engineering is completely useless - for the 'social engineer' (aka 'hustler') it is clearly very useful. I meant that the use of the euphemism was completely pointless, as only a moron could, upon reading the words 'social engineering' and having an example described to them, fail to recognise what was really being described (namely deception).

ETA: btw apologies for the presumption, I haven't been at this forum long enough to get a feel for what's tolerated, but I can't help but feel that, with Bitcoin media coverage being all drugs this, kiddie porn that, and Silk Road the other, we really don't need to let scammers flourish. So I have reported this thread to the moderators. Hey, they might feel there's no harm in it, in which case so be it.


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: chris200x9 on February 14, 2012, 03:18:56 AM
> reported to amazon
> got $10 account credit

tralalala


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: jake262144 on February 14, 2012, 09:35:53 AM
[ETA: btw apologies for the presumption, I haven't been at this forum long enough to get a feel for what's tolerated, but I can't help but feel that, with Bitcoin media coverage being all drugs this, kiddie porn that, and Silk Road the other, we really don't need to let scammers flourish. So I have reported this thread to the moderators. Hey, they might feel there's no harm in it, in which case so be it.

I felt the same, so I reported this topic right when it started. To my utter dismay, the mods arrived, posted some nonsensical comments, and went away:
Seems like a scam, awaiting a response from someone with a free review before passing judgement.
It's not really a scam, as far as I know. From the looks of it, you'll get it for free initially, but you'll have to pay for it 30 days later. That being said, I'm too nice of a person to try it myself.

Precisely what these forums need - to turn into crimetalk.org because the mods can't (are afraid?) make a decision ::)

@Maged, @Tysat
I respect you and the work you're doing here guys but this time IMO you clearly dropped the ball.
Logic was enough to prove this was a scam - either against Amazon (by wrongfully requesting a replacement Kindle with the intent to fight the credit card charge by Amazon when the supposedly broken Kindle never arrived) or against Bitcointalk's users (by wrongfully claiming he had a proven method of dodging the said credit card charge and trying to sell it).


> reported to amazon
> got $10 account credit
Nice!


EDIT:: OP seems to be on the run as he removed all his posts :P
EDIT:: Hey OP, removing a post is not quite the same as getting rid of the evidence. The evidence is in your ISP's logs and on Bitcointalk's servers and will be released to law enforcement on demand. Have a nice day scammer bitch!


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: TorrentMaster on February 14, 2012, 10:05:02 AM


EDIT:: OP seems to be on the run as he removed all his posts :P
EDIT:: Hey OP, removing a post is not quite the same as getting rid of the evidence. The evidence is in your ISP's logs and on Bitcointalk's servers and will be released to law enforcement on demand. Have a nice day scammer bitch!

I had a talk with the site owner. I am not on the run. I simply removed the original post and figured I would let it die down. Since neither the owner nor the mods want to take any action in 1. Moving the the thread to the trash to stop the troll 2. Ban me, since I have done nothing wrong.

This is a excerpt from the site owner.

I don't have a problem with what you're selling, but the "shadyness" of it makes you seem particularly high-risk.

I did not scam any user on this board. There are plenty of illegal things and rule bending happening on this board.

It was intact my mistake to post such a thing here. What I thought people would like turned into "LOL FEDS~!~~!~!!!@#" "YOURE A SCAMMER" when in fact I did not scam anyone on this board.

Since this has gotten so out of hand and I was tired of defending myself I edited the posts and changed the title.

LOLinternet.


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: jake262144 on February 14, 2012, 10:09:21 AM
It was intact my mistake to post such a thing here. What I thought people would like turned into "LOL FEDS~!~~!~!!!@#" "YOURE A SCAMMER" when in fact I did not scam anyone on this board.
I already posted this but would you care to address this issue?
Either you were trying to scam Amazon or you were trying to scam Bitcointalk users.
Either way, you deserve a ban/scammer tag.

Your posting what you claim to be a quote from Theymos is useless.
Since that quote can't be followed we can't assume that
(1) the quote is even real
(2) theymos was fully aware of the nature of your "enterprise".


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: TorrentMaster on February 14, 2012, 10:16:58 AM
It was intact my mistake to post such a thing here. What I thought people would like turned into "LOL FEDS~!~~!~!!!@#" "YOURE A SCAMMER" when in fact I did not scam anyone on this board.
I already posted this but would you care to address this issue?
Either you were trying to scam Amazon or you were trying to scam Bitcointalk users.
Either way, you deserve a ban/scammer tag.


No, I was not trying to nor did I scam any Bitcointalk users.

The disclaimer in the eBook states

"Any use of this eBook is at your own responsibility for damage in condition with a visit to this guide. The content of this eBook and all material in this eBook is made available without warranty of any kind, including but not limited to, warranty of fitness for a particular purpose."

I hope this puts your mind at rest.

https://i.imgur.com/pU6mx.png


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: jake262144 on February 14, 2012, 10:29:13 AM
The disclaimer in the eBook states

"Any use of this eBook is at your own responsibility for damage in condition with a visit to this guide. The content of this eBook and all material in this eBook is made available without warranty of any kind, including but not limited to, warranty of fitness for a particular purpose."
THE DISCLAIMER IN the book, available only once the book had been purchased? Don't make me laugh.

Do you also deny that following your guide is tantamount to scamming Amazon?
Fraud is a criminal offense, mind you.
You yourself admitted to having committed the said crime 15 times.


I'm done here.


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: TorrentMaster on February 14, 2012, 10:37:38 AM
The disclaimer in the eBook states

"Any use of this eBook is at your own responsibility for damage in condition with a visit to this guide. The content of this eBook and all material in this eBook is made available without warranty of any kind, including but not limited to, warranty of fitness for a particular purpose."
THE DISCLAIMER IN the book, available only once the book had been purchased? Don't make me laugh.

Do you also deny that following your guide is tantamount to scamming Amazon?
Fraud is a criminal offense, mind you.
You yourself admitted to having committed the said crime 15 times.


I'm done here.

I have also killed 3472423 people.

That's me admitting to murder too. Looks like I won't see the light of day ever again, maybe even the electric chair.

I am happy you are finished. You have nothing else to harp on me about. I have provided you with a response to every question you asked. I guess you have something to prove to someone or yourself. You are not a mod, owner of the site or anything else. You have no reason to act like one. Go find another thread to white knight in.


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: Nancarrow on February 14, 2012, 10:46:53 AM
I am not on the run. I simply removed the original post and figured I would let it die down.

Your social engineering still needs lots of practice. Sure, just like all scammers, you're not going to stop, you're just going to lie low until people have forgotten about you and then try again... but it really is a bit stupid to explain all this to your marks.


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: TorrentMaster on February 14, 2012, 10:50:26 AM
I am not on the run. I simply removed the original post and figured I would let it die down.

Your social engineering still needs lots of practice. Sure, just like all scammers, you're not going to stop, you're just going to lie low until people have forgotten about you and then try again... but it really is a bit stupid to explain all this to your marks.


You are smart you got me.

With that being said.

Anyone that has purchased from me that is not happy with what you got PM me and I'll kindly return your btc.


Title: Re: Want a free kindle fire? Learn how to Social Engineer and get one free.
Post by: jake262144 on February 14, 2012, 12:10:15 PM
I have also killed 3472423 people.
That's me admitting to murder too...
The smarmy remarks don't change the face that you either lied to your prospective customers or committed a crime.
Either way, you came through as a scumbag the community would likely be better off without.

Answered my questions? Omissions and half-truths.


If you never did anything wrong, why did you remove not only your posts in this topic but also in your other topics?
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Title: Re: .
Post by: SomeoneWeird on February 14, 2012, 11:43:09 PM
stfu everyone and stop arguing. this is the internet -.-