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Title: Trading Bots
Post by: hatshepsut on February 09, 2012, 07:09:43 PM
Can anyone vouch for a good trading bot to use with Mt. Gox? Or be willing to code one for me for payment in BTC?


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: Lazer on February 10, 2012, 03:00:56 AM
Or be willing to code one for me for payment in BTC?

how much BTC are we talking about


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: brox on February 10, 2012, 08:05:46 AM
The best bot would be the one you write yourself. Because bot usually follows certain unique strategy


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: CA Coins on February 10, 2012, 08:14:28 AM
The best bot would be the one you write yourself. Because bot usually follows certain unique strategy

Agree.  If a bot is making lots of money for someone, he/she wouldn't sell it to you unless for lots more money. 


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: kirorolol on February 10, 2012, 09:38:14 AM
How good are trading bots?


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: abeaulieu on February 10, 2012, 04:41:44 PM
Has anyone seen these on the internets? The Mt. Gox API seems to make it rather easy to create one of these bots. I'm starting to get interested in creating one for myself now.


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: Zoiner on February 10, 2012, 04:59:15 PM
I think the important thing is to know some of the economics of trading, like arbitrage, otherwise you trades will only be as good as the algorithm you use.  If you are a novice you might end up with a losing method.


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: abeaulieu on February 10, 2012, 05:20:20 PM
If you are a novice you might end up with a losing method.

Even if you are not a novice you might still end up with a losing method...


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: hatshepsut on February 10, 2012, 05:55:29 PM

how much BTC are we talking about


I could code it myself but I just don't have time. I am open to offers so message me if you are interested.


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: CA Coins on February 10, 2012, 07:33:09 PM
I think some of your options are:

a.  Already have a trading strategy.  Just need someone to code the basic functions to interact with mtgox and will code in the strategy part yourself.  In that case, you will still need to code in the trading strategy and mtgox actually has a pretty good demo api written in php on their site that you can use for the basic functions.  (See their api documentation and you'll find the sample codes.)

b.  Already have a trading strategy and would like a programmer to code the whole thing so all you need to do is to plug in the black box.  Then I think you're looking at paying quite a bit.  What is to prevent the programmer from copying your winning strategy and plug in his/her own black box?  I have heard one major trading house actually sued one of their former employees who tried to use their secret algo codes.

c.  Don't have a strategy.  Then I don't think you are going to get any 'programmer' to do it for you.  Again, if the programmer comes up with a strategy that nets you $1,000 a month, how much would he/she charge for it?  Notice the pie is only so big, so every bot is competition.  

I think bots are everywhere:  Stocks (IB), forex (fxcm), and you would think mtgox is crawling with bots looking at the market data.


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: rwcp97 on February 10, 2012, 08:26:41 PM
I could code it myself but I just don't have time. I am open to offers so message me if you are interested.

I've got a bot ready, but to be honest, it doesn't perform well all the times... If the market moves up, it's fine ;D, otherwise, you will lose money...
So if you have any trading algo, let me know and I'll implement it for you.

Just to show that I'm not talking shit:

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/2918/26546480.png
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1481/38428513.png


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: hatshepsut on February 10, 2012, 09:23:04 PM
Thank you all for the input. I just came across Aricie. Anyone have experience with the site?


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: SgtSpike on February 10, 2012, 09:25:04 PM
Subscribed... want to see what bots are legit.  As long as they have adjustable parameters, people shouldn't be running the same strategies, right?


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: hatshepsut on February 10, 2012, 09:41:01 PM
Yes, I concur. My intention is to use less than 10% of my holdings as trial.


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: abeaulieu on February 13, 2012, 03:56:29 AM
To those who already have bots that they are using-- how are they doing during this recent slip in the BTC market?


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: CA Coins on February 13, 2012, 07:01:21 AM
Looks like someone is sharing their php code for a mtgox api.  Haven't had a chance to look at it myself, but here is the link:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61110.msg712655#msg712655


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: Miner612 on February 13, 2012, 07:39:27 AM
I will pay good BTC for an easy to use trading bot.

PM me.  I have lots.


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: EuSouBitcoin on February 13, 2012, 03:59:39 PM
It's not that I don't trust the trading bots. It's just that I don't trust the trading bots.


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: alexrussel1980 on February 13, 2012, 08:54:10 PM
javascript and scriptish  always been  my best friends


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: CA Coins on February 13, 2012, 10:24:47 PM
It's not that I don't trust the trading bots. It's just that I don't trust the trading bots.

What I've found is that often times defined formulas and calculations work better than my instincts/feelings/predictions.  Base on profits, my code is probably smarter than I am as a trader.  Would adding statistics help? ::)


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: yetti on February 15, 2012, 10:46:27 PM
quite interesting,

Sitting down and clicking for 12 hours a day seems  a waste of time if these bots works proper.


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: SgtSpike on February 15, 2012, 10:48:24 PM
quite interesting,

Sitting down and clicking for 12 hours a day seems  a waste of time if these bots works proper.
So far.... they don't.  :p  I need to find a new strategy.

Well, one bot has made 2% today.  I need more time though.  I am running 4 bots at the same time and comparing the results... will see what the account balances are in a week or so.


Title: Re: Trading Bots
Post by: EuSouBitcoin on February 16, 2012, 01:42:32 AM
It's not that I don't trust the trading bots. It's just that I don't trust the trading bots.

What I've found is that often times defined formulas and calculations work better than my instincts/feelings/predictions.  Base on profits, my code is probably smarter than I am as a trader.  Would adding statistics help? ::)

If I had trust that the bot didn't have malware/wallet stealer/trojan/virus/key logger then I'd use it. It's not the idea of a bot that I don't trust, it's that I don't trust where the bot came from or what it actually does. If the bot comes with source code and you have the expertise to determine that it's "safe" then that's fine. But a free bot is probably worth what you paid for it. If it's a highly profitable bot, why give it away?