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Seems there has been new news released by some one els who did an investigation
http://cryptolife.net/darkcoin-the-next-big-thing-or-just-another-pump-and-dump/ < very well worked out article

this chart also looks like a classic bubble * was linked in poloniex
https://i.imgur.com/xAdLsE2.jpg
so i looked into drk and its wallet holders and some other thing

and the first thing that i stumbled across was ( drk is heavenly premined )
so i went on to investigate this and stumbled on this forum post ( from the dev themselves )
https://darkcointalk.org/threads/the-birth-of-darkcoin.162/
the key line,s of texst in this post are

When we relaunched we had a rush of miners join causing a huge spike of coin production without it being able to adjust the difficulty quick enough,
and
Later on, after the difficulty evened out we realized that there was a serious problem with the block reward calculation

so it was to easy to mine ( and the block rewards where to high ) and they fixed it after a day HMZ oke
also it was a second launch ( so they where not shy of re launching a coin )

so then i went further in my investigations and looked into the wallets ( http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/#!rich ) < drk ritch list

https://i.imgur.com/FTnCDD3.png
red circled one,s are exchanges what we notice here are 2 wallets holding almost 20% of the total coin supply ( witch are not registered as exchange wallets )
so lets look inside of those wallets

wallet nr 1 over 11% of all coins

https://i.imgur.com/lbl9YGS.jpg
what we see here is that coins where send to this wallet ( but never send out @ all )
indicating this is a cold storage ( and prob not from an xchange ) xchange wallets even cold storage tend to have @ least some send coins ( this one only received coins )

wallet nr 2  8% of all coins

https://i.imgur.com/okxGfGW.jpg
same as the nr 1 wallet ( only received coins ) and the coins where never send

those 2 wallets hold roughly 20% of all coins

if u look into other ( coins ) ritch lists ( ltc doge what ever ) u will not find wallets like this @ all



any one care to explain ?

i only am seeking AN EXPLANATION no fud or defending this ) i want a true explanation ONLY

While we're here, who's that statoshi fucker who still owns over 10 percent of all the bitcoins over 5 years from when it first started?!

Someone explain please while explaining the above

well idk wen bitcoin was launched no one knew it would ever have the possibility to turn into value

now a day,s they do know coins can turn into value so its a different story

this is an interesting post tough 20% of the market cap is a shit ton of coins

Looks like a couple of guys with a lot of money decided to buy DRK. Some people believe one of those 2 addresses is bitfinex.com getting ready for when they add DRK.

If you review those addresses, one of them got coins slowly, the another one was much quicker, but both of them got coins mostly during the times of most volume in exchanges. Once of them even played with the DRK forum thread by using codes in the amount he deposited (like having PI or funny amounts).

My personal guess is that some BTC early adopters decided that DRK is the next big thing and they want to invest now rather than later. We have often seen huge buying walls of 200BTC+ and even 700BTC+ one time the price was dropping, giving you a feeling of "I invested a lot in DRK, I don't want it to fall below this and I have the cash to do it". Not much you can do when someone with money decides that DRK is worth investing in.

these are going to be dumped for bitcoins in 2-3 months...

if this was a coin whit a normal launch i would agree whit u

this seems more like the romour of the premine was true and there getting ready to dump these coins

ia all coins where send to multime wallets first and then send to these bigger wallets for more easy of use ( and to hide the huge amount of coins )

now if these or dev  wallets or not idk

so the only explanation atm is ( 2 peeps whit a shit ton of drk ) and no one knows how ?
man ....

risky

Sure, this is what you are saying:

There was a premine (false, DRK has 0% premine) and whoever got that, hided it for months and now that someone is so smart that decided to put together in 1 or 2 addresses almost $12M for everyone to see it, just getting ready to dump it ....   well, actually, I guess people like you would do things like that, right?

Hopefully this is not the best you can come up with, because if something, you just proved the opposite.

If u take all the info out there on the web ( and this is my personal assessment )
something DARK is gowning on

First what u said the day 1 ( problems whit the difficulty and block reword being to high ) this could have been a bug or planned

Then if u look @ the drk dev ( spreading fud about an other coin that was drawing volume away from there coin )
A dev like that could also lie about the day 1 bug being a bug ( wile it was a way to premine the shit out of it )

also if a small group holds a lot of the total coin cap ( that would also explain the huge price increase )
b4 the actual anonymity feature was implemented ( and its still not working fully )

they just starved the market forcing the price up whit a low supply


THIS IS ALL MY PERSONAL ASSESSMENT AND SHOUT BE RESEARCHED BY YOURSELF ( THIS IS NOT TO SPREAD FUD JUST A DISCUSSION )

Everyone knows how, investing cash or BTC.

Risky? Then just leave crypto http://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html (http://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html)

These links are even more interesting, thanks for the heads up btw

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?93210.htm (http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?93210.htm)

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?85785.htm (http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?85785.htm)

http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?216978.htm (http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/address.dws?216978.htm)

ill look into these to ty

probably a guy like this bought some dark http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/273vi2/if_you_just_received_800_bitcoin_out_of_the_blue/

so now the explanation is 2 morons whit a lot of luck that bought 20% of the total coins ?

did some background scan of regmann

seems he,s into exposing fraud or asking questions about suspicious tings for a while now )

one of his post about ( EFL ) electronic gulden



and this one

interesting

when will dump?

idk wen those wallet will dump or if they will dump ( or who those wallet owners are )

but if they decide to cash out expect a slaughter lol

omg , for sure he have more bitcoins to share :).

ask max keiser, he have  couple of  DRK. and for sure he likes  to dump for BTC :)

Mystery solved https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6878151#msg6878151

Basically an XC scam fag bagholder looking to give a reach around. Nothing new ..carry on with your quest.

DRK price is up. Can't wait for Monero to topple you fags soon. Right now it sucks that people are forcing your scam coin into the same sentence as DRK.

I AM NOT SPREADING FUD HERE. JUST CALLING YOU OUT FOR YOUR FAGGOTRY!!!

mystry solved i got out of xc already 2014-06-01 21:33:30   SELL   0.00227499   149.96971542   0.34117960   0.00051176   0.34066784

https://i.imgur.com/f4JZHFl.jpg

bought some xc cus it looked interesting ( it stagnated so i sold it all )

nice to see the responds of drk being ( THIS GUY SPREADING FUD FUD FUD FUD )

i ask a question witch till this point is not answered @ all

Awwww so cuteeee. But have you removed your head out of you ass? Sorry , my english poor ... you are smart trader. Please give me tips. I am learning from your pros.

Can I haz Loljoshcoin cheap?

so attacking is all u can do nice shows great progress

https://i.imgur.com/8rv8peY.jpg

this is why i am asking and investigating this coin yet all u do is try and attack me why dont u gave a straight explanation ( or dont u have any ? )

Buy low, sell high. Easy money.

o great so we cant find a way to explain this so we start attacking the poster who,s just asking a question lol

this is crypto for u hahahah *getting popcorn*

DRK shills are becoming more retarded by each % DRK rises.

"Slapper" ignored from now on

I took you seriously, that's why I gave you a serious answer, but it looks like you don't like it, so you keep asking ...  

I will try to keep this serious, hopefully I'm not being naive and that's your real intention.

Options (add as many as you want):

- This comes from some magic premine/instamine? Why would someone hide the coins for 5 months to put them now together in one single address or two, and risk $12M? Why do the addresses grow during the highest volume days? Why 2 addresses and not 1 or 3? Why do they grow in different ways, from different sources and different sizes? Why one of them is sending messages playing with the forum thread?

- One or both addresses are from bitfinex.com, mintpal or any other exchange which has or is going to add DRK? Could be.

- 2 guys with a lot of cash or BTC buying DRK? Yes, no way to prove that this is not the situation here, and it's the one making sense.


Now apply Occam's razor, enough with the movies, which one has fewer assumptions? There you go with the answer.

Awesome, the real slapper is back.

He's holding back right now on the swearing and cursing. The faggotry theme is one he is particularly fond of.  Of course one can not take him seriously, but he's fun anyway.

DRK is hoarded by a couple of big buyers and the instaminers.

Evans has done some good work, and regrets the dark days where 2 million coins got mined by a handful of people in 24-48 hours. However he has a bunch himself so has been rewarded very well.

Can others replicate this work? YES of course they can.

Other coins are showing promise if all you care about is anon. Looks like all coins are pushing for it now. Although if it's a good idea or not ...who knows.

Give it a month you will see a lot more anon coins.

Will XC over take dark? who knows but if not xc then some other coin with better distribution (for real)  that successfully implements anon features will.

I am going to be around, in some form or other. I do not like how you guys have been ripping apart Evan from Day 1. Your constant attacks from Feb against him were the ONLY reason I bought into Darkcoin. I don't know where the coin goes, all I know is I am up and you are a pissed off 16 yr old fag giving financial advice to people behind a keyboard.

Everyone and their brother knows about the DRK history. It is not going to change. More hard work is put in. More acknowledgement. More acceptance. More exchanges.

You will always be the sore loser that you proved to be since Day 1. Now go ahead, continue being retarded.

i just have a question and no one solved it till now

all i get is drk users trying to attack me from all side,s ( if this is well know and every one knows it why attack me for asking it ? hu )

it still has not been solved @ all in any way  kaene is the only one that came up whit an interesting way of looking @ but if u look into hist post history  almost all of it is in the drk forum so yea  )

You were exposed to be an XC scam participant. You traded yesterday and apparently "got out of" XC proving you are stupid in not getting out when it was discovered that you had bought into loljoshcoin.

Whatever you fags are doing (DRK FUD) has been going on since Jan timeframe. It hasn't worked. No one will answer the question and you will be lonely. Try to get a group hug from the other DRK fans like Cryptohunter, Iluvanoncoin et al and move on.

 still attacking and giving no explanation great ....

attacking me for day trading .... why not attack 90% of the peeps on exchanges ?

Now your criticism of a coin is that people buy too much of it ?

Kind of desperate if that argument's supposed to appeal to investors.


Nice. When you run out of 'ammo', always go for the old 'distribution' angle. As if distribution in any asset class makes a damn bit if difference to anyone. The entire crypto-economy is owned by a nano percentage of the potential worldwide investment community. Multi-billion dollar stock classes have half their equity in the hands of less than 10 people so don't kid yourself that you've discovered any kind of show stopper there.

As it happens, DRK is probably one of the better distributed cryptos and your "instamine" claims got blown out of the water weeks ago when it was pointed out to you that it had been more than compensated for in early trading.

Change the record please.

yet there are still 2 wallets holding 20% < that's not a great distribution )

I don't mind the instamine thing so much as I hate the instaminers had the gall to charge as much as a dollar for months for DRK when it was just a normal X11 coin with no anon features. At least XC started off dirt cheap on the exchanges. Distribution never concerns me as much as everyone, be they miners or traders, get a somewhat fair shot to get coins cheap and easily in the opening days as reward for being first in line.

I was not attacking you. I was attacking Cryptohunter. You stuck your tongue inside his ass and then complained to me that it stinks. I told you no one will explain anything to you. You should get a group hug from those guys and move on.

I don't attack 90% of day traders because they don't post screenshots bragging about being retarded.

i posted the screenshot cus u told me i was a xc bag holder and stated to attack me for it o forced me to

Please stop acting like you're "due" an explanation for this kind of thing.

Nobody needs to "explain" the fact that an asset class has big holders unless you're implying that it was come by either illegally or even unethically, in which case please state your concern explicitly rather than implicitly.

If I had a problem with cryptos which had big wallets that weren't exchanges I just wouldn't invest in them. Don't invest in this one if it's too hard to swallow - although good luck in finding an investment vehicle that doesn't have big holders.

We're not dolling out a box of chocolates here. People invest in stuff because they think they'll see a future gain in proportion to their initial buy. It's got nothing to do with absolute amounts held. If you're worried about big holders "crashing the market" then I've got to ask the question what the hell are you doing in any kind of market ? They only do that if there's a crisis on the scale of the 2008 banking collapse where the current order book is all that's left of the asset in terms of operational or perceived value.

You seem to have convinced yourself that "even distribution" is important.

We'll just have to disagree on that. I bought DRK for lots of reasons - most of which were  technical as I'm from a technical background. The fact that there are holders owning 20% of the money base isn't one of the criteria I used because I don't think it affects my return on investment.

If you think it will affect yours then don't invest in this one - pick another one that is "better distributed" and hope to hell that it stays that way because the chances are that it won't.

Good luck.

......

regman, you`re right but be careful, seems to be some heavy illuminati shit...

lol illuminate XD

and still no one whit an explanation :(

Hehe come on slapper more swearing and fag talk. :)

You're always great entertainment. You with your crypto millions :)  tell us more about your crypto wealth.

Glad to see that you're back on form, swearing and screaming fag with nothing of substance to say.

Come on really let go, you're still holding out on me. Put some effort in .... branch out to other childish insults ..the fag and retard does get a little boring. Mix things up a bit.

Presenting facts = constant attacks according to our eloquent friend slapper here :)

What happened with the instamine?

seems many peeps are invested in dark

and are ignoring this issue afraid of losing money

that's why they probably attacked other coins ) i can not blame them for this

did the same wen i was bag holding wdc whit sharmback :) boy was that a great time lol :)

any way i know anough if the price will rize or not for now i am out


i would re-command all to watch those 2 wallets ( and if they start sending coins out ) to be on alert

especially if you heavy invested

Someone willing to buy 10% of a coin is there for the long-term. He can't just dump them, even slowly, without losing a lot.

This people really take matters related to their coins personally. Not even in the political forum I'm used to see so many personal attacks.

there afraid there coin loses value ins some way and try to protect that in any way possible its normal

ty for your intake on this Mather appreciate it :)

Hey - everyone is afraid of losing money !  ;)

And I am indeed ignoring this issue because, having thought about it, I can't see how it's going to lose me money.

But if you can convince me otherwise I'm all ears !  :)

P.S. Bitcoin now 666 on stamp, 650 on the more conservative BTC-e.

asking questions is better as ignoring

especialy if u have a lot of money invested

nice btc is @ 666 i dont realy care about the btc price till it hits 10k tough ( then ill buy 10 houses ) and keep the rest in btc to play whit

Yes. Asking questions is better than ignoring.

But I don't know the answer to this question so I decided it's either:

[1] - an early developer instamine

[2] - an early non-developer instamine

[3] - an unregistered exchange

[4] - a whale who bought a ton of coins early

[5] - Bitfinex accumulating liquidity for their recently announced market

Take your pick because nobody on here is likely to have the answer at hand and since it's a private address, don't expect the owner to pipe up either.

well i wish u luck whit it

seems u are heavy invested in it like many others :)

I appreciate your remarks, however I don't "heavily invest" in anything. That would be a bit silly given the volatility if this whole market.

I invested some of my holdings in DRK because it has a consistent record of progress by a hard working development team. That's about it. There is no competitor in the "anon" sphere that is anywhere close to it. Obviously thats my opinion, but since I'm investing my own money, thats what I'm going to go with. Others can put their money where they see fit.

I've spent a great deal of time reading the various criticisms against it and come to the conclusion that most of it is either out and out nonsense or mildly relevant in relation to the positive aspects of DRK as an investment.

i can read a nice undertone in there ( drk is the best and only one ) u should BUY BUY BUY ( you have a big stake in drk sins the last weeks/months u been posting about drk only )
only peeps who have a big investment in one coin do that :)

we will see i predict like many coins that in the end it will slow down and pull back like many others have had over the last yr

many went to the top and then slowly dwindled back to forgotten nix

if u ask me most if not all anon coins have no feature

i like bitcoin cos the block explorer is open

1. it makes harder to hide money ( and most normal peeps dont need to high anyting )
 politician and peeps that wane send bribe do ( < corrupt shit )

2 and say drug criminals ? most of them have there own way ( wats been traded trough bitcoin is minuscule )

3 and then if u say the ritch elite in the world ( well u could have been wright ) but they have something already witch is older as bitcoin ( and its not gold ) o well

if there is 1 coin that could get close to bitcoin it would be the coin that acts like a big cooperation

1 add all the new inventions that are made to your coin ( or modifie your coin to meet those demands )

2 hire developers to add those options to the coin ( outsource a LOT )
  why do big corp do this ? its simple ( the same small group has the same limited view )  and a person specialized in 1 thing delivers a better part of the product

i can go on and on and on but in the end we will see :)

and no i am not invested in any coin atm i am holding btc ( day-trading some stocks here and there )

the whole altcoin market is peeps trying to get other peeps to buy there shit so they can exit whit a profit

dev releasing premined or hidden mined shit ( or pure shit coins ) to get as munch money as possible ( and wen they take there profit they run )

its basicly a big pond where every one is trying to eat every one els ( witch is awsome ) :)

I wonder who is dumping all there coins HMZ

price moving down slowly so peeps think its cheap and a good investment

Why would you need to do some research on yourself!!!

You are having a very entertaining conversation with yourself here   ;)

new news released !

http://cryptolife.net/darkcoin-the-next-big-thing-or-just-another-pump-and-dump/  * article not made by me ) as  u can see my English sucks