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Title: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: teflone on February 13, 2012, 02:54:41 AM
Watching these walls, yes, its clear there is no manipulator..     ::)


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: Edward50 on February 13, 2012, 03:08:12 AM
They gotta push the price below $5.00, and then we should see a downwards movement from there and probably a new longer term price in the $4's.

They got close this time, but quite didn't make it.


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on February 13, 2012, 03:12:38 AM
Watching these walls, yes, its clear there is no manipulator..     ::)

No...None!  ::)

Look now!

The battle has begun!


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: teflone on February 13, 2012, 03:17:09 AM
http://i44.tinypic.com/24e9oo8.jpg

For posterity



Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: Edward50 on February 13, 2012, 03:17:20 AM
Look at this new wall that popped up at $5.2, nope, no manipulation dummies.

Bid 4.75 2045.32
Bid 4.8 6913.78
Bid 4.85 2254.67
Bid 4.9 1301
Bid 4.95 970.11
Bid 5 11052.08
Bid 5.05 6010.06
Bid 5.1 6796.01
Bid 5.15 1185.87
Bid 5.2 33625.79  
Ask 5.25 9.23
Ask 5.3 57.79
Ask 5.35 397.95
Ask 5.4 14484.77
Ask 5.45 69.52
Ask 5.5 482.05
Ask 5.55 531.44
Ask 5.6 1619.55
Ask 5.65 3591.33


Below was coped about 15 minutes ago or before the above was copied from mtgox, so you can see for comparison. One manipulator put a ask wall at $5.4, and tried to lower price, another manipulator came in and said no way we going lower, and put a whopping bid wall at $5.2 of over 30K.

Bid 4.75 1906.31
Bid 4.8 6663.76
Bid 4.85 2115.68
Bid 4.9 1300.13
Bid 4.95 985.64
Bid 5 11238.17
Bid 5.05 5716.31
Bid 5.1 6813.69
Bid 5.15 1162.56
Bid 5.2 5574.55
Bid 5.25 4505.65
Bid 5.3 5119.46
Bid 5.35 522.04
Ask 5.4 15295.97
Ask 5.45 38.18
Ask 5.5 139.55
Ask 5.55 408.42
Ask 5.6 1442.53
Ask 5.65 3525.61
Ask 5.7 3596.4
Ask 5.75 5082.45
 


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: Hunterbunter on February 13, 2012, 03:19:46 AM
It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: teflone on February 13, 2012, 03:21:46 AM
It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Yes, this is what Im thinking too, having the hand tighten around bitcoinica is key...  ;)

We the need the rocky theme playing right now... thats quite a narrow wall..  interesting..


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: Hunterbunter on February 13, 2012, 03:33:12 AM
It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Yes, this is what Im thinking too, having the hand tighten around bitcoinica is key...  ;)

We the need the rocky theme playing right now... thats quite a narrow wall..  interesting..

Yeah, if I had the kind of buying power this person had it's exactly what I'd be doing.

Bitcoinica => Make huge bet on where the market is going
MtGox => MAKE THE MARKET GO WHERE YOU WANT
MtGox => Hold wall as close as possible because of bitcoinica's stupid algorithms
Bitcoinica => Cash out and laugh your ass off
MtGox => release hold while still laughing your ass off as market rebounds, walking away with all the people who bet against you on bitcoinica.

If I had the money I would be doing this instead of posting about it. Anyone who uses bitcoinica is playing a game they cannot win...except maybe this dude.

In which case, consider this my public service announcement.


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: Jon on February 13, 2012, 03:35:20 AM
It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Yes, this is what Im thinking too, having the hand tighten around bitcoinica is key...  ;)

We the need the rocky theme playing right now... thats quite a narrow wall..  interesting..

Yeah, if I had the kind of buying power this person had it's exactly what I'd be doing.

Bitcoinica => Make huge bet on where the market is going
MtGox => MAKE THE MARKET GO WHERE YOU WANT
MtGox => Hold wall as close as possible because of bitcoinica's stupid algorithms
Bitcoinica => Cash out and laugh your ass off
MtGox => release hold while still laughing your ass off.

If I had the money I would be doing this instead of posting about it. Anyone who uses bitcoinica is playing a game they cannot win.

...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: teflone on February 13, 2012, 03:37:43 AM
click on that link for Culture and zero sum...   ;D


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: Hunterbunter on February 13, 2012, 03:38:24 AM
...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0

EDIT:

This is a specific bitcoinica issue.


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: Kluge on February 13, 2012, 03:39:34 AM
It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Yes, this is what Im thinking too, having the hand tighten around bitcoinica is key...  ;)

We the need the rocky theme playing right now... thats quite a narrow wall..  interesting..

Yeah, if I had the kind of buying power this person had it's exactly what I'd be doing.

Bitcoinica => Make huge bet on where the market is going
MtGox => MAKE THE MARKET GO WHERE YOU WANT
MtGox => Hold wall as close as possible because of bitcoinica's stupid algorithms
Bitcoinica => Cash out and laugh your ass off
MtGox => release hold while still laughing your ass off.

If I had the money I would be doing this instead of posting about it. Anyone who uses bitcoinica is playing a game they cannot win.

...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0
Just your average everyday normal guys.... http://we.lovebitco.in/img/pricelock.png (grabbed from deepceleron (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63641.msg745378#msg745378))


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: teflone on February 13, 2012, 03:41:11 AM
It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Yes, this is what Im thinking too, having the hand tighten around bitcoinica is key...  ;)

We the need the rocky theme playing right now... thats quite a narrow wall..  interesting..

Yeah, if I had the kind of buying power this person had it's exactly what I'd be doing.

Bitcoinica => Make huge bet on where the market is going
MtGox => MAKE THE MARKET GO WHERE YOU WANT
MtGox => Hold wall as close as possible because of bitcoinica's stupid algorithms
Bitcoinica => Cash out and laugh your ass off
MtGox => release hold while still laughing your ass off.

If I had the money I would be doing this instead of posting about it. Anyone who uses bitcoinica is playing a game they cannot win.

...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0
Just your average everyday normal guys.... http://we.lovebitco.in/img/pricelock.png (grabbed from deepceleron (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63641.msg745378#msg745378))

15 k in coins is nearly 78 thousand...   just normal dudes...   :D


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: Jon on February 13, 2012, 03:41:58 AM
...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0

So you're saying you took a short position?

I hope you at least cashed out now...it'll go back up when hold is released and the wall creator is in a secure buying position.
There's a lot of incentive from other forces to have it keep going down. I diversified. I am just going to treat the wall creator like everyone else. In the end, the strongest desire always wins.


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: Oldminer on February 13, 2012, 03:57:38 AM
It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Quote of the day


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: Hunterbunter on February 13, 2012, 04:03:33 AM
...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0

So you're saying you took a short position?

I hope you at least cashed out now...it'll go back up when hold is released and the wall creator is in a secure buying position.
There's a lot of incentive from other forces to have it keep going down. I diversified. I am just going to treat the wall creator like everyone else. In the end, the strongest desire always wins.

As you wish, yes sentiment was already straddled.


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: teflone on February 13, 2012, 04:05:54 AM
...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0

EDIT:

This is a specific bitcoinica issue.

Did it happen to you too ?


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: the joint on February 13, 2012, 04:09:08 AM
It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Quote of the day

Oldminer, two questions for you:

1)  Did you capitalize on this drop?
2)  Are you a liar?


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on February 13, 2012, 04:11:42 AM
It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Quote of the day

Oldminer, two questions for you:

1)  Did you capitalize on this drop?
2)  Are you a liar?

If "2" were true, would you still believe "1"?  ;)


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: the joint on February 13, 2012, 04:15:46 AM
It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Quote of the day

Oldminer, two questions for you:

1)  Did you capitalize on this drop?
2)  Are you a liar?

If "2" were true, would you still believe "1"?  ;)

Haha, I think "2" is an important question   :D


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on February 13, 2012, 04:19:04 AM
That 35k wall is down to 28...
I think it's getting bought up!  ???


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: Spekulatius on February 13, 2012, 04:22:14 AM
It'll go down as long as bitcoinica has an asterix on the buy. Somebody wants all your leverage.

Yes, this is what Im thinking too, having the hand tighten around bitcoinica is key...  ;)

We the need the rocky theme playing right now... thats quite a narrow wall..  interesting..

Yeah, if I had the kind of buying power this person had it's exactly what I'd be doing.

Bitcoinica => Make huge bet on where the market is going
MtGox => MAKE THE MARKET GO WHERE YOU WANT
MtGox => Hold wall as close as possible because of bitcoinica's stupid algorithms
Bitcoinica => Cash out and laugh your ass off
MtGox => release hold while still laughing your ass off.

If I had the money I would be doing this instead of posting about it. Anyone who uses bitcoinica is playing a game they cannot win.


...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0

Lol.


http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6086/unbenanntfg.gif (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/13/unbenanntfg.gif/)

Actual price at MtGox: Bid: 5.20177 Ask: 5.21


All on Bitcoinica! Attack!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: finway on February 13, 2012, 04:48:07 AM
Stupid wall.


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: notme on February 13, 2012, 04:58:26 AM
Stupid wall.

What wall?


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: Hunterbunter on February 13, 2012, 10:46:21 AM
...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0

EDIT:

This is a specific bitcoinica issue.

Did it happen to you too ?

Not today, but last time it did.


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: teflone on February 13, 2012, 05:08:04 PM
...but I just won it using actual information. Not blaming manipulators, counting formulas or following newsletters. I just read Twitter and forum posts. I listened to the actual people buying and selling the stuff.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63609.0

EDIT:

This is a specific bitcoinica issue.

Did it happen to you too ?

Not today, but last time it did.

Its been addressed..

was only a few of us.


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: alan2here on February 13, 2012, 10:00:08 PM
We can't buy short because too many other people are trying to all at once?


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: teflone on February 13, 2012, 10:04:57 PM
We can't buy short because too many other people are trying to all at once?

Cant buy long right now, as is most of the time..  yes because everyone is going long.

Paying people to store their coin at bitcoinica should start helping this I hope..


Title: Re: The Shuffle has begun
Post by: M4v3R on February 13, 2012, 11:10:52 PM
Starfish is on. 5.4 wall almost melted. Prepare for some quality down time! :D