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You will not read anything negative, nor any sensible or relevant questions on their thread, of course. They simply censor it. Just rah-rah crowd.

Well, it has been charged -and it was censored, not answered- that the PoW period (still ongoing as of this post) included a period in which the two pools mining the coin boasted less than 20MH hashpower while the whole network had over 20GH mining it. The obvious conclusion is that the coin was being hoarded by someone. If that charge lacked merit, the posting would have presented "Alty" the coin's dev, with a golden opportunity for debunking and come out clear, right? Instead, he chose to simply censor the post altogether, which is a very clear red flag for anyone considering investing in it.

Censoring the threads is, certainly, nothing new. As a matter of fact, very rarely you can find a single one that is not closely monitored and censored by the devs. Why would that be? There's only one reason: Use your common sense and decide. We, in crypto, are advocating freedoms while, in reality, there's no other segment of social media, anywhere with more censorship... not by Bitcointalk, but by the posters of the announcements. No wonder in the short end it is discovered that a growing number of them are just crooks.

Proceed cautiously with CLOAK.

Is not it the fact that most of the alts are scam ?

Most alts are a scam. But alts backed by exchanges are .. well for prosecution. Take a look at slimcoin/bter combo.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=613213.0

I wouldn't know. But certainly that is an extended feeling perceived by the community... not to mention the regular people that crypto is trying to appeal.
The bad players need to be exposed and neutralized.

It appears Pol has no intention of listing Cloak despite the high volume and numerous requests. Something else is going on, and it stinks - i'm definately out.

wow,that sounds bad.

if this is proved,it  can cause a big dump in cloakcoin

TRYING TO DESTROY ANOTHER CRYPTO, ICONICEXPERT AKA BARABBAS AKA CRYPTOOLATE AND MANY OTHERS DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS?
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Barabbas = IconicExpert = Scam!

Just exposing the bad guys. Just like I did with BC and with Libertycoin.

Bad guys I can expose. The idiots, on the other hand, expose themselves everything they post. (that would be you, Emilio but, obviously, not only you).

Just look at any pool that is mining cloak and check again hashrate.u are total ignorant mate, 2 pools 20mh?few 280x makes more hash power.


Another idiot in crypto

There are more than two pools mining Cloak, Trademybit.com is easily pulling off 30+Gh/s. This thread is nothing but ignorant scare mongering.

do some more research before you accuse someone of being someone else

this major hidden hash is happening every coin now dem yellows have a major farm in China

Indeed another. Illiterate too, of course, for you don't even know how to read. This CHARGE was made by someone, not by me. And it was someone quite knowledgeable. This happened a few days ago, not today or an hour ago, and that was the reality then. Obvious red light. But, please, dlo ignore it and get as burned as you indeed deserve.

Way too many illiterate and stupid idiots in crypto, indeed!

And wouldn't that present a great chance for the dev to come out and present proof of that? Of course, presenting the proof would indeed be much more of a problem than just delete the post... and go on about hoarding, wouldn't it?

This guy is so stupid , it hurts the pools had 6gh's together or so pool.nm had around 3gh and suchpool.pw had 3 or so aswell. this guy is just stupid as shit

You are a thief Christopher Bouzy aka IconicExpert aka Barabbas aka Cryptoolate and others alter egos.

You stole money from bc community


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Looooooooool

So when a scammer calls something a scam, that means it's time to buy, right?

Obviously this guy has never heard of solo mining...

Little friend verify every charge u read on internet before u will write them as ur owns.20mhs is literally 8x 280x but u probally dont know what is it. Its fuckin lack of  knowledge makes u cant even make fud that sb would believe.

it is indeed a really good time to buy , if you look at vericoin for example which has 5x more coins that kinda makes you realise its a nobrainer to buy now :)

everyone knows that you're a thief Christopher Bouzy aka Barabbas aka IconicExpert aka Cryptoolate and many others alter egos of a sick man.



"For those of you unaware, IconicExpert had organised a BlackCoin event and collected roughly $13,000 in donations to get the event funded. However, the event never took place, and people didn’t get their money back either (yet?)."
http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/2014/5/28/libertycoin-prices-slashed-after-internal-finger-pointing-and-controversy?utm_content=bufferc40e4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/2014/5/28/libertycoin-prices-slashed-after-internal-finger-pointing-and-controversy?utm_content=bufferc40e4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)

Dumping Buying now...

Minimal pal, I don't have to verify ANYTHING. The charge was made by someone else and was relevant at the time. The fact that it's obvious conclusion was deleted (censored) instead of responded too, IS indeed incriminating. And that's why I have raised the red alert. I don't care if you dispute it, if you use it any which way you choose. It is there to advise people to be careful because, since the inception of the word, censorship has always, always been used for one and only purpose: To silence and hide fault.

That's why you would not find any kind of censorship on this thread on my party (I cannot know what Bitcointalk could do). Even though it is obvious that quite retarded people is posting their usual outrageous bullshit. It is for you, the readers and posters, to decide what has merit and what is simply bullshit.

You are a trip. You don't have to verify anything? So it's alright to throw out bullshit accusations without any proof? Ok then...

I had someone tell me that barabbas was responsible for MtGox, CryptoRush and he shot JFK. Scumbag!!

everyone knows that you're a thief Christopher Bouzy aka Barabbas aka IconicExpert aka Cryptoolate and many others alter egos of a sick man.



"For those of you unaware, IconicExpert had organised a BlackCoin event and collected roughly $13,000 in donations to get the event funded. However, the event never took place, and people didn’t get their money back either (yet?)."
http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/2014/5/28/libertycoin-prices-slashed-after-internal-finger-pointing-and-controversy?utm_content=bufferc40e4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/2014/5/28/libertycoin-prices-slashed-after-internal-finger-pointing-and-controversy?utm_content=bufferc40e4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)

sell ;D

Get a life you iconic loser.

You dumped your coins and now you're mad. You're the worst sore loser/baby in the crypto world.

The lengths people goto to create FUD to lower the price to buy CLOAK ... this baby is a winner!

EDIT: This is not IE as anyone with sense can see from his twitter account

Yourself included, you deleted a shitton of posts in your BC thread. We all know how much of a hypocrite you are, Iconic. Go back to your cave.

Of course you will delete this post, but theres a double standard that I just set. Delete it and confirm everything I just said, or leave it up and let people see who you really are. Either way, you're done man...

heres a Scam accusation for everyone since were doing this...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=627818.msg6979830#msg6979830

So u will put on alert every charge u read on net even u dont  understand what's is it about and not check by urself ? please calm down,.take some pills and go sleep.u are other a  paranoic or just stupid troll that want to keep btcs comes to ur Shitcoins only.

+1

You can still buy now. Its cheap.

No I don't have to verify anything at all. If you launch a coin and you open a thread, it is your responsibility to answer any and all questions and charges... of face the consequences. Including the consequences for exercising censorship. Enough is enough with the bad players and crooks galore. I did not pose the charges, but I reached the obvious conclusion. The dev chose not to respond to the post and censor mine. That, to me, is a red flag if there's ever been one. For you it isn't? more power to you I don't give a fuck. But no, I don't have to verify for you or anybody anything. Whether you choose to take this into consideration or not is entirely up to you. In iot's own merit, as it is. If you need further verification, look for it yourself.

seems like the average age in here is 14!

I don't buy into red flags. Nope. Not me. But you can double up if you feel like it, it's your money you know?

Unfortunately, it is only mental age...

 

Alty said it straight  that he will delete any fud in thread that appears without any evidence just to keep thread clean as possible.if u have proofen bad info about any coin...its allright i will listen to u.but all in all u are just fuckin idiot that wants people start panic

I will never, ever, delete any post in any thread that I control. None. Never. For no reason whatsoever. No ifs, no buts, not interpretations. Whoever posts in my threads can be quite sure that it will be there for posterity to judge.

But you are just an idiot, pal, that chooses to believe bullshit. There are others two things -besides what I just wrote- that you already know about me and choose to ignore: I never, ever, lie. And I don't have any other accounts in Bitcointalk. None. Do with that info whatever the fuck you choose.

He is IE.
He is a sick man with a lot of personalities
He posted as IE but using Barabbas account and also as Barabbas using IE account in libertycoin thread.
Many people saw this

Strong work barabbas.

Looks like the readers have decided, LMAO. Take your bullshit and gtfo

Last answer to you on the matter: The original post (I believe still there, but not interested in verifying it) claimed that the "two pools have a hashrate of less than 20MH while the network had over 20GH..." That was posted days ago. I answered today and wrote that "That means, obviously, someone was hoarding the coin". Do you consider that FUD? I consider that and evident conclusion of some unanswered charge... and a second opportunity for "Alty" to answer those charges. He chose to delete the post instead. You draw your own conclusions. I drew mine.

What readers? you? Emilio? this has been posted for less than 2 hours and "the readers have decided"? I think everyone is deciding as they come. Not only on the OP's merits but on those of posters like you.

Oh and this is my thread. You can post anything you want here -not that you are welcome by any stretch of imagination, mind you- but it isn't for me to get the f out of my thread, you know? It doesn't have any use for you, obviously, but I have the feeling you will stick around...

Man i know more like 20 miners  that together had rented more power than 25ghs on x13 on cloak from early begining


greetings

everyone knows that you're a thief Christopher Bouzy aka Barabbas aka IconicExpert aka Cryptoolate and many others alter egos of a sick man.



"For those of you unaware, IconicExpert had organised a BlackCoin event and collected roughly $13,000 in donations to get the event funded. However, the event never took place, and people didn’t get their money back either (yet?)."
http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/2014/5/28/libertycoin-prices-slashed-after-internal-finger-pointing-and-controversy?utm_content=bufferc40e4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer (http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/2014/5/28/libertycoin-prices-slashed-after-internal-finger-pointing-and-controversy?utm_content=bufferc40e4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer)
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Dude, I already busted you back in your BC thread. Why would IE (you) delete this post and then alter all the conversation leading up to this? Because you answered my post AS Iconic but forgot to switch back to your Iconic account. So here is proof that barabbas lies, and that he does, in fact, delete posts.


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IE, remember when I told you it was a HUGE mistake to convert donations into fiat BEFORE your goal was reached. Remember how I told you in the event of a refund that it would be impossible to figure out all the logistics? Remember when you called me stupid for suggesting that you do not cash out before the event takes place? Remember?


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But you are an idiot and no sane person would pay attention to an idiot... as reality has proven it once again.

Converting to fiat the donations was, and remains, the wisest move logistics notwithstanding. As a matter of fact, those donations would buy today double -roughly- the amount of coins, so it was THAT brilliant to convert them.

But only a new level of idiocy would even pretend that the opposite was the right way to act.

Some levels of idiocy are quite difficult to even fathom.



From Absynth:
forgot to switch accounts from your "FUDmonkey" back to IE?

If it goes unanswered, I draw a conclusion that can easily be disproven and, instead, my post is censored, of course I will. Enough of bad players and crooks hiding under anonymous handles and scam schemes. Enough fucking already!

The second part of your post is not just illiterate it is obviously stupid in its conception too.

Only a total retard -like you are- would take that answer as being from Iconic. Only a total idiot. But what else is new.

Oh, by the way, I was making the point of clarifying that, indeed, contrary to your idiotic quote, the fact that Iconic had converted the donations to fiat had been in fact quite profitable for every coin, especially BC, had gone much lower since the moment of the donation. Something quite obvious to anyone with an IQ above singles. But no one will ever accuse you of having an IQ above the singles, would anyone?

Look up, seems like there are real charges with some evidence , so IE i dont think so people will listen to you -u need to create new Id on btctalk for new "followers"

i guess his 14 year old brain isn't fully developed yet

And that's all folks, enough of entertaining the idiocies of three or four retards. Here's the red flag, nothing else to add to it, do with it what you please and if you have something sensible to add or question, I'll answer while I would leave the retards to their own bullshit. Enjoy!

The 14-year-olds that I have known (and I have known a lot- never showed even a remote semblance of these levels of idiocy that, in fact, are quite impossible to even fathom indeed.

Lie to yourself all you want, but why would both you and Iconic alter your posts leading up to that incident to make it look like it didnt happen? You are quick to call people names when presented with proof but you never present any proof with your FUD BULLSHIT.

IT WAS PROVEN BY A MOD FROM THE LITECOIN THREAD THAT YOU AND IE ARE THE SAME IP ADDRESS. I WAS IN THE IRC AS WELL WHEN IT HAPPENED

LMAO, i was there too. this shit is hilarious!

Hardly. Since Iconic lives in New York, as everyone knows, and I live in the West Coast. As a matter of fact, the lying individual that posted that fallacy, lives very close to me, in my backyard, so to speak. I have offered (and the offer still stands) to meet with him in the safest place on Earth: The inside of his nearest police station. He went mute after that.

The offer is extended to ANY and all PROXIES, fucking retard.

What MOD ?

Actually, you (all your accounts) went silent after that was discovered. You didnt post from ANY of them for about a day, not the way you described at all.

Anyways, Im out. I dont like arguing with 1 person pretending to be 4 (or more). Your voice will always be louder so you can shout me down. All your talk about being fair and not censoring, but using alt accounts to back up your arguments really does worse than censorship. It creates a false sense of the community voice.
Later troll.
They arent even creative anymore. You used to have better game

Christopher Bouzy aka IE aka Barabbas is retard guys! LOL
and more retarded are his fanboys

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if barabas is iconicexpert, and if he decided to attack cloakcoin, I'm willing to bet that cloackcoin will die very soon! regardless he's right or wrong,
we saw him killing AUR, we saw him killing XLB, if its are not quite dead, its become zombiescoin   ;D

Christopher Bouzy (IconicExpert aka Barabbas aka Clockers25 aka Crypto_Wolf aka Cryptoolate and other alter egos) spending the money he stole from the BC community


https://i.imgur.com/KTAgzmO.jpg



"For those of you unaware, IconicExpert had organised a BlackCoin event and collected roughly $13,000 in donations to get the event funded. However, the event never took place, and people didn’t get their money back either (yet?)."
http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/2014/5/28/libertycoin-prices-slashed-after-internal-finger-pointing-and-controversy?utm_content=bufferc40e4&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buff

lol its like 2 people who keep spamming this same shit, cool. nobody cares
especially the guy who just threw up a 11 btc buywall...pllz sell to me cheap

So the idiotic retards that are posting these known fallacies are permanently discredited for the bullshit spreaders that they are, everywhere, here is my first answer, ever, to a post from IconicExpert on the now closed original BC thread. The subsequent exchange is, naturally, quite heated since, at the time, I was a staunched supporter of BC -had not discovered yet the scam there- and what Iconic had tried to pull, with the so called "Community Pump", had in me the most acerbic and vitriolic opponent. Read the full exchange, if you are that interested, and, if you will, pay attention to those posting along in the thread, among which you will probably find one or two handles that have already posted their nonsense here, so they are not ignorants, they are liars for they witnessed this exchange live, front row: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469640.25280

Here they are, fully exposed, for anyone who ever wants to check these idiots' credibility.

you're retarded.

if the network has is 20MH, and one person wants to horde all of it, he adds 200MH, not 20GH. do you have ANY idea how much money you'd be losing spending an extra 1800MH on something to get 99% of it, and not just 90% of it? do you have any idea what you're talking about? or are you just a PnD FUD machine? you go from coin to coin under different aliases, trying to knock down the price of good coins, so your group can scoop them up cheap. then you make a killing.

enough is enough. no one trusts a word you say. you lie, and deceive, and are poison on the crypto community.

I have posted about 3-4 coins total in months, stupid idiot... err. mentally disabled individual, I have to try not to stoop to your levels of idiocy...

You don't even know how to express a simple thought, let alone the drivel you tried above that a 3 year old would express with some degree of clarity instead of the idiotic absurdities you put together to mean exactly nothing,

You and the likes of you are, in fact, the cancer of crypto and the reason it will probably never be trusted, with plenty of reason, by anyone in the real world.

but we will get rid of you and your despicable breed sooner rather than later.

This is just one step on that direction.

http://ginoraidy.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/schizophrenia.jpeg
Iconic Expert aka Barabbas

it's look like a liberty clone with x13 to me

I was saying exacly the same thing. I pointed out that cloakcoin is a scam, and I was quickly removed from the thread.

Well, no one will remove anything you choose to post here... but it would be nice if your claim is based on something specific.

First, you know a lot of miners.
Second, it is not usual at all, that in the very early hours of a new coin, no matter which, 25GHs (as you post, the original poster only claimed "more than 20GH), will be mining it.
Third, it may very well be true that a lot of people did in fact rented hashing power and mined CLOAK massively.

None of that is contested by me though. As a matter of fact, I am not contesting -or charging myself- anything. All I have stated is that a very clear red flag has been raised by the fact the, instead of answering the obvious deduction from the original post, that someone was hoarding the coins, the dev not only chose not to answer at all but to immediately delete the post. Those are FACTS. That happened. And, to me, that means the dev has something to hide on one side, and, on the other, it means that you should proceed cautiously if you are interested in the coin. Here, I am simply rising the DANGER flag. Do with it what you deem opportune.

And, on the subject, I have already started measures so such controlling and entirely one sided behavior is fully exposed. On any and all coins. Whoever wants to play from now on, is going to have to do it on a level playing field.

This is a very good coin with a dev that did not go shy on bounties to everyone that helped the process.

I believe this will be the first coin with a WORKING ANON implementation!

I too have the same thought.