Title: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: vuce on February 19, 2012, 09:39:39 AM I’m posting this on behalf of a six-member team of students of the University of Ljubljana in Slovenia, that are going on a humanitarian medical expedition to Kenya. They need to raise 22000 euros for the drugs and other medical supplies, accommodations, etc. (listed below), and have so far not had much luck finding the donators.
~~ about the expedition We are four students from Medical faculty and two students from Faculty of Health Sciences in Ljubljana. We are planning a three-monthly voluntary humanitarian mission in August 2012 to village Majiwa in the South-West of Kenya where we will do our best to provide free medical care for local people. GOALS OF OUR EXPEDITION: - to provide the basic medical care for local people - to educate and raise awareness about the proper hygiene, infectious diseases, drinkable water and adequate nutrition - to provide financial support for treatment in hospital for patients with more serious conditions - to get more knowledge about the tropical medicine and therefore to be more able to help the people in Slovenia - to aware the meaning of the aid for those who need it more than we do The expedition is a part of a bigger story – the Section of tropical medicine in Ljubljana, which operates as a part of the Medical faculty since the year 1990. It helps the students to organize the humanitarian missions to the countries with worse health care and enables additional education in the department of tropical medicine. The mission is approved by Medical Faculty in Ljubljana and Ministry of Health of the Republic of Slovenia. For more information go to www.kenija2012.net (http://www.kenija2012.net) (google translate (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sl&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kenija2012.net%2F&act=url); if requested I am willing to provide a more accurately translation of anything on the website); there you will find also confirmation of validity of our expedition issued by Medical faculty of Ljubljana and Ministry of health from Slovenia (under post Priporočila). ~~ what the money is needed for
~~ donating Donate to 1kenyaDrbe2W9KfC7djWAZbAKzSR2aXdX (http://blockchain.info/address/1kenyaDrbe2W9KfC7djWAZbAKzSR2aXdX) If anyone could spare a bitcoin (or two) or knows people who would it would be much appreciated (and you will also have that warm and fuzzy feeling to cherish). In the unlikely event of the expedition being canceled I will return the funds to the originating address (if not otherwise requested). I will make sure to let you know what will be bought with the donated money. Unfortunately they will not be able to use bitcoins to buy the things needed (yes I know, blasphemy!) so I would like to find a reputable member, that would be willing to buy them (preferably at market price) on date specified below and deposit the funds via SEPA transfer to the account listed on the website of the expedition (http://www.kenija2012.net/kako-donirati.php). Interested please PM me. The coins will be sold in bulk when the goal amount is reached or on the 1st of July 2012, whichever is sooner. If deemed necessary I am willing to provide ID (or any other information) to the moderators. ~~ contact If you have any questions you can post in this thread, send me a PM (bitcoin related) or email the them directly (kenija.odprava@gmail.com). Thank you! Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: Mushoz on February 19, 2012, 06:47:41 PM Very nice idea! Friendly tip: State the donation Bitcoin address on the website as well. That way, people can be 100% sure you and that expedition are connected. I'm not saying you are a scammer here! I just think more people would be willing to donate if you did it like that ;) Good luck with your expedition!
Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: vuce on February 19, 2012, 07:30:35 PM Quote from: Mushoz State the donation Bitcoin address on the website as well. Working on that, as I stated I am only the intermediary (or "the bitcoin guy"), I have to discuss this with the website admin, but I will get it done.Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: vuce on May 31, 2012, 12:27:10 PM Took me a long time to get in touch with the webmaster, but finally, here it is: http://www.kenija2012.net/kako-donirati.php (under third red title)
Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: Raoul Duke on May 31, 2012, 01:20:51 PM Contact Phinneas Gage and maybe the Bitcoin100 will help.
Now that you mention it, I must send them my pledge, and wouldn't mind if it was used to donate to this. Anyway, just sent a donation now ;) Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: vuce on May 31, 2012, 04:02:06 PM Contact Phinneas Gage and maybe the Bitcoin100 will help. Now that you mention it, I must send them my pledge, and wouldn't mind if it was used to donate to this. Will send him a pm, thanks for the tip. Quote Anyway, just sent a donation now ;) Thank you! Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 31, 2012, 04:27:05 PM Contact Phinneas Gage and maybe the Bitcoin100 will help. Now that you mention it, I must send them my pledge, and wouldn't mind if it was used to donate to this. Will send him a pm, thanks for the tip. Quote Anyway, just sent a donation now ;) Thank you! http://www.blockchain.info/address/1kenyaDrbe2W9KfC7djWAZbAKzSR2aXdX Quote Total Received 4.191 BTC Final Balance 4.191 BTC LMAO! 4+ bitcoins ain't shit! Let's see what the fuck I can do. (vulgar for humor purposes only) ~Bruno~ Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 31, 2012, 04:41:43 PM Quote Unfortunately they will not be able to use bitcoins to buy the things needed... This is not necessarily true, for... Quote Hygienic and sanitary equipment 6×150(EUR) = 900(EUR) I'm sure there's some site(s) that would accept Bitcoin for these type of purchases. But, unfortunately, time may be against us, so let's focus on the next best thing--donating 100+ BTC via the Bitcoin 100. ~Bruno~ Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: vuce on May 31, 2012, 05:34:42 PM Quote Unfortunately they will not be able to use bitcoins to buy the things needed... This is not necessarily true, for... Quote Hygienic and sanitary equipment 6×150(EUR) = 900(EUR) I'm sure there's some site(s) that would accept Bitcoin for these type of purchases. I'm sure they get this with some sort of discount from some of the local Slovenian suppliers. Paying for this in bitcoin would (I'm 100% certain of this) mean importing this from abroad, which would only drive the price up, but I'll ask them what they think anyway. Quote But, unfortunately, time may be against us, so let's focus on the next best thing--donating 100+ BTC via the Bitcoin 100. That would exceed my wildest expectations. Honestly I think it's sad some of the bigger companies on the donators list can't cover this (I'm sure they wouldn't even notice), but alas, there we are.~Bruno~ Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on May 31, 2012, 07:33:28 PM Not to hijack this thread, but can we continue the discussion over at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84497.0 for a few days? I'm about to ask a couple general questions.
~Bruno~ Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: vuce on May 31, 2012, 07:34:40 PM Not to hijack this thread, but can we continue the discussion over at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=84497.0 for a few days? I'm about to ask a couple general questions. ~Bruno~ Certainly. Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: Clipse on May 31, 2012, 07:58:55 PM Can I ask why you dont simply do humanitarian aid in your own country? Surely there is alot of poor and sick people in slovenia that could really appreciate the same help.
I just find it so redundant that everyone from outside africa seem to think that only africa needs help. Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: rjk on May 31, 2012, 08:00:01 PM Can I ask why you dont simply do humanitarian aid in your own country? Surely there is alot of poor and sick people in slovenia that could really appreciate the same help. I just find it so redundant that those inside of africa don't feel the need to help the poor starving noobs.I just find it so redundant that everyone from outside africa seem to think that only africa needs help. lol kidding, don't kill me ;D Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: vuce on May 31, 2012, 08:05:46 PM Can I ask why you dont simply do humanitarian aid in your own country? Surely there is alot of poor and sick people in slovenia that could really appreciate the same help. I just find it so redundant that everyone from outside africa seem to think that only africa needs help. Slovenia actually has a very good health care system. Everyone that is sick can seek medical attention for free, so such humanitarian aid is already in place, so to speak. Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: Otoh on May 31, 2012, 08:32:42 PM @vuce, it's too short notice for this trip, but if they do the same thing every year & made a NPO or association, even the uni if it's non profit to manage it & the fund raising/allocation & feedback from the project then I could well be able to help them apply for funding for next & subsequent years from a foundation that supports similar ventures, see my thread on this for further details:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68162.0 & this post on it especially: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68162.msg795969#msg795969 Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: vuce on May 31, 2012, 09:43:29 PM @vuce, it's too short notice for this trip, but if they do the same thing every year & made a NPO or association, even the uni if it's non profit to manage it & the fund raising/allocation & feedback from the project then I could well be able to help them apply for funding for next & subsequent years from a foundation that supports similar ventures, see my thread on this for further details: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68162.0 & this post on it especially: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=68162.msg795969#msg795969 Looks very interesting, (at least) one of the team will register tomorrow, I will let them know about it so you can discuss this. Thanks! Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: Clipse on June 01, 2012, 12:13:32 AM Can I ask why you dont simply do humanitarian aid in your own country? Surely there is alot of poor and sick people in slovenia that could really appreciate the same help. I just find it so redundant that everyone from outside africa seem to think that only africa needs help. Slovenia actually has a very good health care system. Everyone that is sick can seek medical attention for free, so such humanitarian aid is already in place, so to speak. Fair enough, but are you telling me there is no one on the streets,unemployed,without food etc in slovenia ? Does your government actually take care of these people. What Im getting at is the fact that helping someone should start at home and that is continously overlooked in the world. Everyone rush to africa, year in and year out, yes its miserable situations but you could actually do the same good for poor people in your own country(refering to everyone now) and see potentially more real worth come out of it than to rush to another continent just to return the next year and the next ad infinity since the potential good is immediately destroyed when you leave. Ill concede if in fact there is no one you could help in your own country who also could need the same support that you are prepared to offer to kenyans. Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: Otoh on June 01, 2012, 01:07:23 AM Can I ask why you dont simply do humanitarian aid in your own country? Surely there is alot of poor and sick people in slovenia that could really appreciate the same help. I just find it so redundant that everyone from outside africa seem to think that only africa needs help. Slovenia actually has a very good health care system. Everyone that is sick can seek medical attention for free, so such humanitarian aid is already in place, so to speak. Fair enough, but are you telling me there is no one on the streets,unemployed,without food etc in slovenia ? Does your government actually take care of these people. What Im getting at is the fact that helping someone should start at home and that is continously overlooked in the world. Everyone rush to africa, year in and year out, yes its miserable situations but you could actually do the same good for poor people in your own country(refering to everyone now) and see potentially more real worth come out of it than to rush to another continent just to return the next year and the next ad infinity since the potential good is immediately destroyed when you leave. Ill concede if in fact there is no one you could help in your own country who also could need the same support that you are prepared to offer to kenyans. they're medical students, offering basic medical care, that's covered by the state in their country, it isn't in Kenya I assume, they get experience & do good that otherwise wouldn't be done, it's not immediately destroyed when you leave, FFS if you were untreated for some condition you wouldn't say such BS, of course the funds raised could be used towards the homeless etc in their country but you've totally missed the point, they wouldn't be - they are being raised for something else, try & broaden your horizons maybe Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: vuce on June 01, 2012, 07:03:52 AM Can I ask why you dont simply do humanitarian aid in your own country? Surely there is alot of poor and sick people in slovenia that could really appreciate the same help. I just find it so redundant that everyone from outside africa seem to think that only africa needs help. Slovenia actually has a very good health care system. Everyone that is sick can seek medical attention for free, so such humanitarian aid is already in place, so to speak. Fair enough, but are you telling me there is no one on the streets,unemployed,without food etc in slovenia ? Does your government actually take care of these people. What Im getting at is the fact that helping someone should start at home and that is continously overlooked in the world. Everyone rush to africa, year in and year out, yes its miserable situations but you could actually do the same good for poor people in your own country(refering to everyone now) and see potentially more real worth come out of it than to rush to another continent just to return the next year and the next ad infinity since the potential good is immediately destroyed when you leave. Ill concede if in fact there is no one you could help in your own country who also could need the same support that you are prepared to offer to kenyans. they're medical students, offering basic medical care, that's covered by the state in their country, it isn't in Kenya I assume, they get experience & do good that otherwise wouldn't be done, it's not immediately destroyed when you leave, FFS if you were untreated for some condition you wouldn't say such BS, of course the funds raised could be used towards the homeless etc in their country but you've totally missed the point, they wouldn't be - they are being raised for something else, try & broaden your horizons maybe This is exactly what I was about to say and couldn't have said it better myself. Don't get me wrong, Clipse, I agree wholeheartedly. I don't think there's a country in the world that doesn't have people who need financial support, but that has very little to do with the idea of this expedition, as Otoh already stated. Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: P4man on June 01, 2012, 07:23:41 AM Can I ask why you dont simply do humanitarian aid in your own country? Surely there is alot of poor and sick people in slovenia that could really appreciate the same help. I just find it so redundant that everyone from outside africa seem to think that only africa needs help. If you assume an African life has the same value as one in your own country, you can do a whole lot more in Africa than at home. Where I live, I dont think there a lot of babies to save with 10 euro and installing a water well isnt going to make life better for hundreds or thousands. That said, if you want value for money, our energy and money would be better spent trying to improve the political situation over there. Sadly we are doing the exact opposite :( Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: Otoh on June 01, 2012, 09:03:02 AM In my previous post I offered to help with a funding application to contacts that I have with a generous with an active philanthropic foundation that supports many varied worthy causes & projects - such as medical research, human rights, female empowerment, the arts, child & animal charities, ecological products & issues, construction, to the tune of about $40M over around the last 10 years in nearly 70 different countries worldwide.
This is one single person's own money, do you have a problem with this too or can people choose how they'd like to spend their own money, should Bill Gates only be charitable in the States or perhaps he & his advisers may have just looked in to this a little more than you have & can see beyond such narrow national boundaries. Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: edd on June 04, 2012, 12:02:34 AM To help support this humanitarian trip, I've put up a new shirt at SearchingForSatoshi (http://searchingforsatoshi.com/kenya/) and 100% of the profits will be sent to 1kenyaDrbe2W9KfC7djWAZbAKzSR2aXdX
http://www.searchingforsatoshi.com/imgs/kenya.png I'll also be sending 25% of all profits from other shirt sales during the month of June. Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: vuce on June 04, 2012, 06:04:52 AM To help support this humanitarian trip, I've put up a new shirt at SearchingForSatoshi (http://searchingforsatoshi.com/kenya/) and 100% of the profits will be sent to 1kenyaDrbe2W9KfC7djWAZbAKzSR2aXdX http://www.searchingforsatoshi.com/imgs/kenya.png I'll also be sending 25% of all profits from other shirt sales during the month of June. Oh wow, this looks amazing! Title: Re: humanitarian expedition to Kenya - looking for donations Post by: lenny_ on July 25, 2012, 01:08:45 PM I am sorry to say that, but I am not going to support this project. I would rather support kids and people in need from my own country... Not from Kenya - I have never been there and I will never go!!
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