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Title: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: beetcoin on June 10, 2014, 06:22:10 AM
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/netflix-refuses-to-comply-with-verizons-cease-and-desist-demands/

man these cable companies are getting quite creepy.. there's no limit to the kind of shit they'd be willing to do to sell "airspace" to internet services like netflix. if the new anti-neutrality bill passes, this will become a more and more common occurrence.. the big cable companies would be very, very powerful.


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 10, 2014, 06:25:56 AM
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/06/netflix-refuses-to-comply-with-verizons-cease-and-desist-demands/

man these cable companies are getting quite creepy.. there's no limit to the kind of shit they'd be willing to do to sell "airspace" to internet services like netflix. if the new anti-neutrality bill passes, this will become a more and more common occurrence.. the big cable companies would be very, very powerful.

We actually watch netflix more than regular television. I like that they are telling customers the truth. Verizon sucks at broad band. 


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 10, 2014, 07:26:15 AM
Netflix must announce that their services will no longer be available to the Verizon subscribers. Let's see out of the two, who the customers will chose. BTW... the choice is pretty simple for me, and it is not Verizon.

Time has come to dump Verizon.  ;D


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: TECSHARE on June 10, 2014, 10:52:09 AM
Good for Netflix. They should have done this when Comcast extorted them into paying for a two tier connection for their customers instead of paying them off. Now they look like a target for the other ISPs. I am about ready to cancel my Comcast subscription, they are very clearly throttling traffic. Vote with your money people, and cancel subscriptions to anti-net neutrality ISPs.


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: commandrix on June 10, 2014, 02:48:42 PM
And I was just saying that basically Verizon is looking for a lawsuit simply because Netflix is telling the truth. Any competent computer networking specialist knows that it's possible to prioritize the delivery of data based the type of data (like streaming video as opposed to a PDF file) or block it altogether based on either type or source.


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: beetcoin on June 10, 2014, 05:42:43 PM
Netflix must announce that their services will no longer be available to the Verizon subscribers. Let's see out of the two, who the customers will chose. BTW... the choice is pretty simple for me, and it is not Verizon.

Time has come to dump Verizon.  ;D

dump verizon, and your only other choice is not really a good one either. verizon would end up winning that kind of battle imo.. in order to use netflix, you need the internet. in order to use the internet, you do not need netflix.


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: ReRunRod on June 10, 2014, 05:44:43 PM
Netflix must announce that their services will no longer be available to the Verizon subscribers. Let's see out of the two, who the customers will chose. BTW... the choice is pretty simple for me, and it is not Verizon.

Time has come to dump Verizon.  ;D

Verizon sucks ass. Google Fiber all the way!!


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: spazzdla on June 10, 2014, 05:50:22 PM
.... Our Fing criminal POS scum Fing gov adding more laws for big corps and attacking the web.. They should all b fing hung. no no, flayed alive, yes that's a much better idea.  These POS need to pay with the pain they have inflicted on others... flayed alive while being kept alive on life support yes that should do.


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: ReRunRod on June 10, 2014, 05:53:12 PM
.... Our Fing criminal POS scum Fing gov adding more laws for big corps and attacking the web.. They should all b fing hung. no no, flayed alive, yes that's a much better idea.  These POS need to pay with the pain they have inflicted on others... flayed alive while being kept alive on life support yes that should do.

I like how you do business :)


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: peeveepee on June 10, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
Always knew Verizon is bad. What is the point of denying it when people already know how bad it is?



Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: Benjig on June 10, 2014, 08:08:25 PM
Of course Verizon won't sue. Any lawsuit opens them up to providing real network traffic data during discovery, and when it turns out they are at anything BUT capacity, the PR shit will hit the fan. Deservedly so.


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on June 10, 2014, 08:17:22 PM
Cut the cable LONG time ago, Netflix, Amazon prime and alluc.tv everything I want to watch when I want to watch it.


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: beetcoin on June 10, 2014, 08:19:46 PM
Cut the cable LONG time ago, Netflix, Amazon prime and alluc.tv everything I want to watch when I want to watch it.

i don't know what that has to do with this topic. it's not about cable tv. it's about high speed internet, and how verizon is playing fascism with netflix.


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 10, 2014, 09:43:20 PM
Cut the cable LONG time ago, Netflix, Amazon prime and alluc.tv everything I want to watch when I want to watch it.

i don't know what that has to do with this topic. it's not about cable tv. it's about high speed internet, and how verizon is playing fascism with netflix.

I think he is referring to the general trend of moving away from large providers. Verizon also provides television FIOS so in a sense they could be thought of as a cable company. 


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on June 10, 2014, 09:56:29 PM
Cut the cable LONG time ago, Netflix, Amazon prime and alluc.tv everything I want to watch when I want to watch it.

i don't know what that has to do with this topic. it's not about cable tv. it's about high speed internet, and how verizon is playing fascism with netflix.

I think he is referring to the general trend of moving away from large providers. Verizon also provides television FIOS so in a sense they could be thought of as a cable company. 

I was referring to the trend, Roadrunner is common where I live aka time warner. Think they want me watching netflix or the 60$ dollar a month cable they offer?


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: Ron~Popeil on June 10, 2014, 10:02:51 PM
Cut the cable LONG time ago, Netflix, Amazon prime and alluc.tv everything I want to watch when I want to watch it.

i don't know what that has to do with this topic. it's not about cable tv. it's about high speed internet, and how verizon is playing fascism with netflix.

I think he is referring to the general trend of moving away from large providers. Verizon also provides television FIOS so in a sense they could be thought of as a cable company. 

I was referring to the trend, Roadrunner is common where I live aka time warner. Think they want me watching netflix or the 60$ dollar a month cable they offer?

Exactly. This is one of the reasons they want to restrict bandwidth usage. It was never about slowing the network down for other users.


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: beetcoin on June 10, 2014, 10:25:05 PM
Cut the cable LONG time ago, Netflix, Amazon prime and alluc.tv everything I want to watch when I want to watch it.

i don't know what that has to do with this topic. it's not about cable tv. it's about high speed internet, and how verizon is playing fascism with netflix.

I think he is referring to the general trend of moving away from large providers. Verizon also provides television FIOS so in a sense they could be thought of as a cable company.  

I was referring to the trend, Roadrunner is common where I live aka time warner. Think they want me watching netflix or the 60$ dollar a month cable they offer?

i pay $55 a month for TWC as well.. i really hate them, but att uverse is my only other option, and they are terrible as well.

Cut the cable LONG time ago, Netflix, Amazon prime and alluc.tv everything I want to watch when I want to watch it.

i don't know what that has to do with this topic. it's not about cable tv. it's about high speed internet, and how verizon is playing fascism with netflix.

I think he is referring to the general trend of moving away from large providers. Verizon also provides television FIOS so in a sense they could be thought of as a cable company. 

I was referring to the trend, Roadrunner is common where I live aka time warner. Think they want me watching netflix or the 60$ dollar a month cable they offer?

Exactly. This is one of the reasons they want to restrict bandwidth usage. It was never about slowing the network down for other users.

yeah forgot about that.. they want to force us to pay for cable tv. that's the common trend. people are cancelling their tv subscriptions and just using their internet for watching tv.. which means they can only steal $60 out of your pocket instead of $120, and to make matters worse, it puts more strain on their speeds.


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: TECSHARE on June 11, 2014, 01:44:49 AM
Cancel your subscriptions to comcast and verizon, even if just for one month. Spread the word. WE have the power over them.  Take it. 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=648313.msg7252618#msg7252618


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: bryant.coleman on June 11, 2014, 01:54:53 AM
yeah forgot about that.. they want to force us to pay for cable tv. that's the common trend. people are cancelling their tv subscriptions and just using their internet for watching tv.. which means they can only steal $60 out of your pocket instead of $120, and to make matters worse, it puts more strain on their speeds.

Other than live sports and international news, I hardly watch TV nowadays.  ;D And I watch sports on TV just because in my area the HD live stream is not readily available. Cable TV is a bit cheaper here, but why pay for it when we almost never watch it?


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: 5flags on June 11, 2014, 09:11:08 AM
Other than live sports and international news, I hardly watch TV nowadays.  ;D And I watch sports on TV just because in my area the HD live stream is not readily available. Cable TV is a bit cheaper here, but why pay for it when we almost never watch it?

I don't own a TV. Very happy about that :)


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: boumalo on June 11, 2014, 07:12:52 PM
Let's hope this project can be implemented everywhere soon :

http://www.google.com/loon/ :) :) :) :)


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: beetcoin on June 11, 2014, 07:14:06 PM
Cancel your subscriptions to comcast and verizon, even if just for one month. Spread the word. WE have the power over them.  Take it.  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=648313.msg7252618#msg7252618

my lord, you expect me to live for 1 month without the internets? if i were a heroin addict, i would rather give that up.


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: TECSHARE on June 11, 2014, 07:22:15 PM
Cancel your subscriptions to comcast and verizon, even if just for one month. Spread the word. WE have the power over them.  Take it.  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=648313.msg7252618#msg7252618

my lord, you expect me to live for 1 month without the internets? if i were a heroin addict, i would rather give that up.
Your other option is to lose it forever.... if you really cant manage tether to your mobile for a month.


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: beetcoin on June 11, 2014, 07:36:13 PM
Cancel your subscriptions to comcast and verizon, even if just for one month. Spread the word. WE have the power over them.  Take it.  
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=648313.msg7252618#msg7252618

my lord, you expect me to live for 1 month without the internets? if i were a heroin addict, i would rather give that up.
Your other option is to lose it forever.... if you really cant manage tether to your mobile for a month.

200 mb is not enough to last me for even a day. besides, i can't make everyone else in my house sacrifice for something that i believe in.


Title: Re: Netflix refuses to comply with Verizon’s “cease and desist” demands
Post by: dwma on June 11, 2014, 07:47:57 PM

Broadband providers are the biggest bunch of entitled *!@#$!$s that exist in the US.  Always under-providing and then wanting to shakedown content providers that their customers are already paying for.  (To the content provider and to the bandwidth provider.)

Scummy broadband providers + corrupt US political system = Situation where we're behind other countries in broadband capability.

Go get them Netflix.  At least the customers of Netflix like the company.  Not sure how much that can be said for broadband/cellphone providers.