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Title: delete
Post by: CoinHumper on February 22, 2012, 06:34:33 AM
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Title: Re: delete
Post by: coblee on February 22, 2012, 07:29:01 AM
What is the point of doxxing someone? Do you really need to post his personal information here for everyone to see? What if someone did that to you? Please be considerate of others and remove this.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Ahimoth on February 22, 2012, 07:35:46 AM
Does it matter what he looks like, or how much he weighs? Or that he may live in the same house as his parents. I find your interest in attempting to humiliate a fellow human being rather disturbing.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on February 22, 2012, 07:46:10 AM
It sucks to get doxxed. Its a lesson to try not to be a keyboard warrior.

Its low to bring his partner and kid into it. I do hope for your sakes nothing happens to them.



Title: Re: delete
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on February 22, 2012, 08:47:45 AM
It sucks to get doxxed. Its a lesson to try not to be a keyboard warrior.

Its low to bring his partner and kid into it. I do hope for your sakes nothing happens to them.




Why for our sakes? nobody said anything about anything happening to them. We are just saying hi, thats all.

Ok. Just keep them out of it thats all Im saying.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: k9quaint on February 22, 2012, 08:52:33 AM
So that is where my kick-toy went :(


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on February 22, 2012, 10:12:57 AM
As someone who posts their birth certificate on imgur whenever there is nothing better to do, doxxing seems only worthwhile if you can uncover something like with Bold Funding. Hacking in general is fun, as is rummaging through other people's private things like a child explores his new surroundings. Most moralfags don't want to admit it, but invading privacy is one of the quickest ways to educating oneself on society (although obviously works the opposite direction for actual social skills).

ViperJBM is one the loudest, staunchest and most irritating of the Coinhunter followers.
Oh hey, imagine that, the losing side is full of losers.  ::) All alt-coins need to be destroyed, not just the ones you don't like, such is the nature of competition.

He talked some serious shit right up until he was doxxed. Then he deleted about 10 of his post being a virtual badass today, as well as his avatar most everywhere on the net including over at Solidcointalk.

It sucks to get doxxed. Its a lesson to try not to be a keyboard warrior.

There's nothing wrong with being a keyboard warrior when your cause is great and you have nothing to hide. Too bad that isn't the case here. Anyone who removes what they post because people "get too close" never believed in what they were doing in the first place, or just weren't ready to pay the price for it.





Title: Re: delete
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on February 22, 2012, 10:31:29 AM
What is the point of doxxing someone? Do you really need to post his personal information here for everyone to see? What if someone did that to you? Please be considerate of others and remove this.

OP is just excited probably because of all the annoyance caused by the individual and just wants to hurt them in some way emotionally. There is nothing of value in these dox though, except of course to reinforce the long debated assumption that nerds are in fact nerds.

Traditionally, doxxing is used to uncover lies, deception and fraud purported by individuals, like when SA goons found out about Bruce's previous history as a scammer, or when they thought that the school I ran was fake. The problem is, documents don't always tell the full story, so a lot of the time all you get is shock value which may be entertaining but not really useful.

This does nothing but embarrass the guy. I won't pass judgment on this since I don't know what's going on, and I do understand that doxxing is a process (it doesn't stop until it strikes gold) but sometimes, you never strike gold, and that's when it starts feeling like you're beating a dead cat with a stick.

Let's see where it leads since anyone can look up his public court records etc now, find his profiles and accounts on other sites, etc. Who knows. Maybe he's a kiddy fiddler, a gun runner (haha...runner...) or in the witness protection program for witnessing a cop shoot another cop in an Amish village.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Snapman on February 22, 2012, 05:30:01 PM
Shit happens when shooting your mouth off, simple as that.

A much needed id btw.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Coinbuck @ BTCLot on February 22, 2012, 06:07:00 PM
Dodoking found this and shared in btc-e

http://www.transformation.com/viperjbm/photos/

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en&biw=1280&bih=841&sclient=psy-ab&q=cache%3Awww.transformation.com%2Fviperjbm&pbx=1&oq=cache%3Awww.transformation.com%2Fviperjbm&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=8259l8807l1l9011l4l0l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on February 22, 2012, 06:46:16 PM

Looks like an otherwise nice guy. I really hate it when people can't get over themselves and hide behind pseudo-anonymous groups. Even SA is guilty of this as a whole (hive hypocrisy).


Coinhunter's response to possibly losing Viper was "that he was tired of his whining about everything anyway, no loss really". Great guy, excellent leader.

Good leaders know when to cut the cord.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: illpoet on February 23, 2012, 12:56:12 AM
whats SA?


Title: Re: delete
Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on February 23, 2012, 03:17:38 AM
whats SA?

www.somethingawful.com


Title: Re: delete
Post by: smoothie on February 23, 2012, 03:31:56 AM
LOL


Title: Re: delete
Post by: illpoet on February 23, 2012, 05:11:54 AM
cool thanks! the website made me lol a bunch.  i'm not sure how i feel about "outing" someone so to speak.  on the one hand its kind of hardcore to show somebodies chubby/pimply face on the internet but at the same time i love someone out there holding ppl accountable.  Its annoying that everywhere you go theres all these ppl who are total shmoe's only because they feel they have the relative safety of the internet to hide behind.  You think you're average troll would act that way if they had to face other ppl and look them in the eyes while they said those things?  i dunno something thats always irked me.  i don't really know much about viper so i can't say one way or the other about him, just trolls in general.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: FlipPro on February 26, 2012, 10:13:38 PM
Viper never really believed in SolidCoin.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on February 26, 2012, 10:15:04 PM
Viper never really believed in SolidCoin.

Coulda fooled me.   If he's an example of someone who doesn't really believe in it, I'd hate to meet someone who does :D


Title: Re: delete
Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on February 27, 2012, 01:20:39 AM
The most amazing part to me was his renewed drive to lose weight because they were expecting  a "little one"  


http://www.chadhartley.missingsaddle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/meatwad.jpg


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Vod on February 27, 2012, 01:22:21 AM
It was during his "300lb era" that he actually scored with another heavy duty beast and got married.

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/assets-images-gawker-2008-07-lowered-expectations.jpg

I don't know Viper, and I don't promote doxxing, but BCX's comment reminded me of the old Saturday Night Live bit.  :)


Title: Re: delete
Post by: k9quaint on February 27, 2012, 01:39:33 AM
Viper never really believed in SolidCoin.


http://solidcoinpro.info/3.jpg

I think Viper is a true believer but started believing he really was "Coinhunter". Viper made some PM threats and demands that basically I go away and shut up or "some new earth shattering" info was to be posted on the forum LOL  ;D ;D ;D

I didn't realize I presented myself as a pushover! Viper soon discovered he wasn't CH and was very exposed.

I really felt bad for a few seconds traumatizing Viper over his weight issue. Reading his blog I felt sorry for him as it seemed he struggled with his weight all of his life. He just couldn't resist the pizza, hamburger and up to two giant bags of Doritos at a time. His blog was full of self loathing and self pity rants blaming food for all his life's failures. (Look in the double wide mirror loser, it's not the food)

I loved the part where when he dropped from 460lbs to 300lbs exclaiming that he might actually be in a position to live on his own and not with the elderly father. It was during his "300lb era" that he actually scored with another heavy duty beast and got married. I guess after marriage he and the misses both packed on some weight with him now at nearly 490lbs again (according to a post in Jan 2012) and the Misses crossing the 300lb mark. The most amazing part to me was his renewed drive to lose weight because they were expecting  a "little one"  

Is it just me, or like it was stated earlier in this thread, that the copulating moment brings images to mind that you wished you could "un-see". As Carl Sagan once said, I guess life really does find a way!

So in essence one of Solidcoin's top business strategist is a no discipline, compulsive eating, self loathing deadbeat that lives off of state support with an elderly father and has a pregnant wife he can't possibly support on his own.

Yep, that's exactly who I want to at the helm of a new high tech currency I'm thinking of investing in.

Best wishes to you Viper,

Warm regards,

~BCX~

Lets start a betting pool on which new personality that crops up on these boards turns out to be ViperJBM in disguise. The current Coinhunter sockpuppet operator can write "Hello World" so that rules out Viper at the helm.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: FlipPro on February 27, 2012, 02:12:25 AM
Viper never really believed in SolidCoin.
You are being pretty damn mean in your analysis BTCex. Lets just hope that this gets through to ViperJBM.

Viper you wouldn't push the currency, if people really knew who you were would you?

Why do you think I had problems being moderator over there?

That 12 million coin pre-mine is like a curse hanging over the head of the entire project and should be enough to scare anyone away, no matter what the "technical limitations" may be .


Title: Re: delete
Post by: m3ta on March 01, 2012, 07:57:04 PM
Does it matter what he looks like, or how much he weighs? Or that he may live in the same house as his parents. I find your interest in attempting to humiliate a fellow human being rather disturbing.

As much as your concept is just an attempt at being "a nice guy", let's face it: do you consider all human beings "fellows"? So, you condone murderers, rapists, and every other scum that breathes as "your fellows".

That is just "vomitful" <- YAY, I made a word because of you. Thank you.

In other news: You're wrong.
Welcome (or not) to the real world.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: k9quaint on March 08, 2012, 01:19:25 AM
It appears that after RealScammy was id'd he finally just STFU.

How will they ensnare new victims if they don't publicize themselves on these forums?

I predict more sockpuppets.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Cosbycoin on March 08, 2012, 02:58:14 AM
The community has smeared SC so bad that SC will die. RS will prolly keep a working network of his precious SC in his mum's basement but other than that it will be dead.

Such horrible PR from it's leader.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Nim on March 08, 2012, 03:51:19 AM
Is this seriously the kind of behavior that this forum supports? I just read the thread for the first time and I kept expecting to see "Banned" under an avatar or two or at least an appearance from a moderator saying that this juvenile behavior isn't allowed. Or maybe to find out that there was at least some justification. That this guy stole a bunch of money or has seriously threatened to kill someone and you needed to get this information to the police. Instead, I see that it is just someone that you guys don't like and this is the result.

So this stuff is condoned and encouraged here?


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Nim on March 08, 2012, 04:10:40 AM
Is this seriously the kind of behavior that this forum supports? I just read the thread for the first time and I kept expecting to see "Banned" under an avatar or two or at least an appearance from a moderator saying that this juvenile behavior isn't allowed. Or maybe to find out that there was at least some justification. That this guy stole a bunch of money or has seriously threatened to kill someone and you needed to get this information to the police. Instead, I see that it is just someone that you guys don't like and this is the result.

So this stuff is condoned and encouraged here?

Hi Viper!

Seriously the lame effort of CH and crew to use Sockies is hilarious!


That's the world view of a conspiracy theorist and one that is non-falsifiable. Anyone who disagrees with you must be the man or working for the man. If I were to try to say or prove that I'm not this person, you would reject it. You've arrived at this conclusion without evidence or rational thought. You cannot be dissuaded from this conclusion with evidence or rational thought.

You should question yourself any time you hold a non-falsifiable position.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: k9quaint on March 08, 2012, 04:19:09 AM
I have 10 forum posts.

Even if you are not a sockpuppet, you have the research skills of one.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Nim on March 08, 2012, 04:23:24 AM
I have 10 forum posts.

Even if you are not a sockpuppet, you have the research skills of one.
What should I have researched?


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Nim on March 08, 2012, 04:28:39 AM
I guess we're supposed to believe a newbie 30 minutes out of purgatory with 9 total post, 6 in newbies finds this small corner of Bitcointalk and starts attacking people basically in defense of Coinhunter/ViperJBM and there is no coincidence whatsoever.

Newsflash for you self appointed newbie moderator.

There are no TOS here and this particular sub forum isn't for the weak or politically correct.

Welcome to the dog fighting pit.  ;D ;D ;D

~BCX~
So what do you think is the most productive and useful way to conduct a forum? One where people treat each other like this?

I have no qualms with saying what I think and pointing out what I think needs to be said but note that I haven't attacked a single person on this forum and I have no intention of ever doing so.

As for the "self appointed newbie moderator" comment, I think that adults should conduct themselves like adults. And that when you are in society, society regulates itself. It shouldn't need regulators (in this case moderators). If you saw someone stealing something, would you think that it isn't your business and to let the police handle it? Just because nobody has spoken up about it, including moderators, doesn't mean that I can't. And I have. If you guys want crytocoins to spread (and I think it would be interesting and hence why I am here), then this behavior and how you treat people on here needs to change. I can think of no rational argument for behaving like a bunch of bullies on a forum the goal of which is to attract people.

edit: oh and why I came and posted here? Because I had a piece of timely information that I wanted to add to another thread. When I got out of the thread, guess which one popped up to the top and beckoned me to read?


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Nim on March 08, 2012, 04:42:46 AM
After looking at some of your post in Newbies Section it is possible that you are indeed a newcomer, but I doubt it. In your very first post you were bitching about the forum rules and complaining. You stated you have never encountered a forum like this and you're right.

If you don't like it, there are many other forums, but I think you are here with an agenda.

Your very first post below.



This forum....as in the Newbie forum. I've been reading the main forums for a long time. I'd like to be contributing, but I can't.

The principled side of me tells me not to play the silly game and post a bunch of nonsense just so I can be allowed to post in the other forums. The rational side of me tells me that my doing that won't change anything, that you won't care in the slightest, and that the forum will retain this stupid policy no matter what I do. I haven't decided which side to listen to yet.

And spending ANY time reading posts in this forum IS? I'm a member of perhaps a hundred forums and I've never seen a policy like this. I've seen sites restrict users from Classifieds with a similar system but that again is also a stupid policy as it just results in a bunch of crap posts. You are not any more prone to trolls or spammers than any other forum. The most draconian forum I am a member of, http://corner-carvers.com/forums/ , allows anyone to post anywhere but if you post crap, you get banned. I don't agree with that approach but at least there you end up with a forum filled with content with very little noise. All you have done here is put a tiny little noise buffer that just annoys your would be users. It absolutely boggles my mind that you guys want this currency to spread but yet you make joining a discussion forum unnecessarily difficult. This policy is almost certainly hurting rather than helping your cause. Look at the big picture.
I'm quite familiar with it. I wrote it. I don't see an agenda. I see someone who is a frequent forum goer and one who has no problem speaking their mind. I'm the kind of person who goes to a community meeting and voices their opinion about a proposed town project (as I did Monday). If I was one of these people you seem to think I am, why would I stir things up? Wouldn't I lay dormant like some sleeper agent ready to pounce and support...something? Wouldn't I be talking up Solid Coin or talking down every other coin? Quit thinking in black and white. I don't need to be part of the other team to have a criticism about the game.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Blind on March 08, 2012, 05:54:14 AM
Alt coins corner should come with free popcorn machine, so much drama here.

Take it easy BCX, one day you might come to conclusion that at least one of your parents is Coinhunter himself.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Ahimoth on March 15, 2012, 11:30:16 PM


I wouldn't label Ahimoth as being a nice guy, he definitley jumped into douchebag level with the attempted FUD'ing and smear campaign on Coblee.

Another one like Viper that seems to forget that unlike Lord Realscam, exactly who they are, where they are and everything that follows is not a mystery.


~BCX~


What smear campaign on Coblee? I don't recall ever saying anything negative about Coblee. The only thing I ever did to Litecoin or Coblee was to mine it while profitable and supply him with facts about the existence and performance of a GPU miner for Litecoin, which as I hope everyone knows by now is real.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Cosbycoin on March 15, 2012, 11:33:48 PM
Alt coins corner should come with free popcorn machine, so much drama here.

Take it easy BCX, one day you might come to conclusion that at least one of your parents is Coinhunter himself.


nah, my parents knew how to keep their scams straight!

lol same scammer lineage just different branch.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: k9quaint on March 16, 2012, 01:41:09 AM


I wouldn't label Ahimoth as being a nice guy, he definitley jumped into douchebag level with the attempted FUD'ing and smear campaign on Coblee.

Another one like Viper that seems to forget that unlike Lord Realscam, exactly who they are, where they are and everything that follows is not a mystery.


~BCX~


What smear campaign on Coblee? I don't recall ever saying anything negative about Coblee. The only thing I ever did to Litecoin or Coblee was to mine it while profitable and supply him with facts about the existence and performance of a GPU miner for Litecoin, which as I hope everyone knows by now is real.

You don't read very well if you didn't catch CoinSchizophrenics and the SoiledCoin sockpuppets accusations about Coblee.
The official party line of SoiledCoin is that Coblee was secretly mining LTC with a fast GPU miner.

If you are no longer part of the SoiledCoin project, you should say so. Otherwise, you should lie in the bed you've made for yourself.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Ahimoth on March 16, 2012, 01:50:04 AM


I wouldn't label Ahimoth as being a nice guy, he definitley jumped into douchebag level with the attempted FUD'ing and smear campaign on Coblee.

Another one like Viper that seems to forget that unlike Lord Realscam, exactly who they are, where they are and everything that follows is not a mystery.


~BCX~


What smear campaign on Coblee? I don't recall ever saying anything negative about Coblee. The only thing I ever did to Litecoin or Coblee was to mine it while profitable and supply him with facts about the existence and performance of a GPU miner for Litecoin, which as I hope everyone knows by now is real.

You don't read very well if you didn't catch CoinSchizophrenics and the SoiledCoin sockpuppets accusations about Coblee.
The official party line of SoiledCoin is that Coblee was secretly mining LTC with a fast GPU miner.

If you are no longer part of the SoiledCoin project, you should say so. Otherwise, you should lie in the bed you've made for yourself.

Guilty by association huh?


Title: Re: delete
Post by: k9quaint on March 16, 2012, 02:09:41 AM


I wouldn't label Ahimoth as being a nice guy, he definitley jumped into douchebag level with the attempted FUD'ing and smear campaign on Coblee.

Another one like Viper that seems to forget that unlike Lord Realscam, exactly who they are, where they are and everything that follows is not a mystery.


~BCX~


What smear campaign on Coblee? I don't recall ever saying anything negative about Coblee. The only thing I ever did to Litecoin or Coblee was to mine it while profitable and supply him with facts about the existence and performance of a GPU miner for Litecoin, which as I hope everyone knows by now is real.

You don't read very well if you didn't catch CoinSchizophrenics and the SoiledCoin sockpuppets accusations about Coblee.
The official party line of SoiledCoin is that Coblee was secretly mining LTC with a fast GPU miner.

If you are no longer part of the SoiledCoin project, you should say so. Otherwise, you should lie in the bed you've made for yourself.

Guilty by association huh?

Perhaps if the members of the SoiledCoin team were more upfront about their identities we could tell whom was associating with who.
Maybe we would be less cynical if your PR spokescritter did not up and vanish when the light of day shone upon him.
Maybe we would be less cynical if you all didn't share the CoinSchizo account.

After all that has happened with SoiledCoin PR, who can (or cares to) unravel what has been said by whom.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Ahimoth on March 16, 2012, 07:53:33 AM
Ahimoth if I were you I would seriously re-think the decision to jump into the fore front of being the head Solidcoin Scammer Spokes Person.

Spokesperson? I haven't mentioned SolidCoin on here once in the past 24 days.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Ahimoth on March 16, 2012, 05:32:12 PM
Ahimoth if I were you I would seriously re-think the decision to jump into the fore front of being the head Solidcoin Scammer Spokes Person.

Spokesperson? I haven't mentioned SolidCoin on here once in the past 24 days.

Looks like perhaps you might be the only one of the group with assemblence of common sense. So you are not part of the multi user "Coinhunter" account?

No, I do not use that account, and I have no knowledge regarding the owner of that account or who may or may not be using it.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: k9quaint on March 16, 2012, 06:21:20 PM
Ahimoth if I were you I would seriously re-think the decision to jump into the fore front of being the head Solidcoin Scammer Spokes Person.

Spokesperson? I haven't mentioned SolidCoin on here once in the past 24 days.

Looks like perhaps you might be the only one of the group with assemblence of common sense. So you are not part of the multi user "Coinhunter" account?

No, I do not use that account, and I have no knowledge regarding the owner of that account or who may or may not be using it.

Forgive me if I seem incredulous that you do not know what account Realsolid has been posting on these forums.

Especially when I see this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61876.msg753093#msg753093) posted by you:
"Coinhunter/RealSolid has no involvements with the pool. I run it with one other person. My partner handles the server and web UI. I handle the selling of the btc and the sc payouts to the miners."

Now I have even less trust in you after your claim of no knowledge that Coinhunter is RealSolid the founder of Soiledcoin.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Ahimoth on March 16, 2012, 08:36:28 PM
Ahimoth if I were you I would seriously re-think the decision to jump into the fore front of being the head Solidcoin Scammer Spokes Person.

Spokesperson? I haven't mentioned SolidCoin on here once in the past 24 days.

Looks like perhaps you might be the only one of the group with assemblence of common sense. So you are not part of the multi user "Coinhunter" account?

No, I do not use that account, and I have no knowledge regarding the owner of that account or who may or may not be using it.

Forgive me if I seem incredulous that you do not know what account Realsolid has been posting on these forums.

Especially when I see this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61876.msg753093#msg753093) posted by you:
"Coinhunter/RealSolid has no involvements with the pool. I run it with one other person. My partner handles the server and web UI. I handle the selling of the btc and the sc payouts to the miners."

Now I have even less trust in you after your claim of no knowledge that Coinhunter is RealSolid the founder of Soiledcoin.

How can I possibly know for certain that the CoinHunter account truly is RealSolid? There is no way for me to know that, and no way for you to know that unless one of us stands behind him while he logs into bitcoinTalk and IRC simultaneously. And even then, that is no proof that he is the only one using that account. Just like there is no way for me to know that you are not actually BitcoinExpress posting under a different account.

Your logic is flawed.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: k9quaint on March 16, 2012, 09:43:59 PM
Ahimoth if I were you I would seriously re-think the decision to jump into the fore front of being the head Solidcoin Scammer Spokes Person.

Spokesperson? I haven't mentioned SolidCoin on here once in the past 24 days.

Looks like perhaps you might be the only one of the group with assemblence of common sense. So you are not part of the multi user "Coinhunter" account?

No, I do not use that account, and I have no knowledge regarding the owner of that account or who may or may not be using it.

Forgive me if I seem incredulous that you do not know what account Realsolid has been posting on these forums.

Especially when I see this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61876.msg753093#msg753093) posted by you:
"Coinhunter/RealSolid has no involvements with the pool. I run it with one other person. My partner handles the server and web UI. I handle the selling of the btc and the sc payouts to the miners."

Now I have even less trust in you after your claim of no knowledge that Coinhunter is RealSolid the founder of Soiledcoin.

How can I possibly know for certain that the CoinHunter account truly is RealSolid? There is no way for me to know that, and no way for you to know that unless one of us stands behind him while he logs into bitcoinTalk and IRC simultaneously. And even then, that is no proof that he is the only one using that account. Just like there is no way for me to know that you are not actually BitcoinExpress posting under a different account.

Your logic is flawed.

Except you are supposedly a member of the SoiledCoin development team (at least you claimed to be such in #solidcoin IRC) and you made the claim earlier that  RealSolid and Coinhunter were interchangeable. So now you claim you have no idea who RealSolid really is and thus have no idea who really is developing SoiledCoin. In fact, it could be anyone posting binaries of the SoiledCoin client right? Just like it could be anyone posting as RealSolid on solidcointalk.org.

At least you admit that there are multiple people using the CoinSchizo account and you have no idea who is saying what.

FYI, for people to claim to know so much about security you SoiledCoin folks demonstrate remarkably little in practice. RealSolid could sign something in IRC using a tyrant node key and Coinhunter could sign something on the forums using the same private key. Then we would know for sure the accounts were linked (or the tyrant node keys have been compromised). But of course, that is exactly what the SoiledCoin folks are trying to avoid, being accountable for their statements.



Title: Re: delete
Post by: Ahimoth on March 17, 2012, 02:06:34 AM

Except you are supposedly a member of the SoiledCoin development team (at least you claimed to be such in #solidcoin IRC) and you made the claim earlier that  RealSolid and Coinhunter were interchangeable. So now you claim you have no idea who RealSolid really is and thus have no idea who really is developing SoiledCoin. In fact, it could be anyone posting binaries of the SoiledCoin client right? Just like it could be anyone posting as RealSolid on solidcointalk.org.

At least you admit that there are multiple people using the CoinSchizo account and you have no idea who is saying what.

FYI, for people to claim to know so much about security you SoiledCoin folks demonstrate remarkably little in practice. RealSolid could sign something in IRC using a tyrant node key and Coinhunter could sign something on the forums using the same private key. Then we would know for sure the accounts were linked (or the tyrant node keys have been compromised). But of course, that is exactly what the SoiledCoin folks are trying to avoid, being accountable for their statements.




Again, your logic is flawed. Just because both accounts could provide a signed message in no way proves they are or are not the same person. Lets assume for a second that they are separate entities, now consider that CoinHunter could simply forward your message signing request on to RealSolid to have it signed and then CoinHunter proceeds post the reply on the forums. You would have the evidence you desired, yet it still does not prove anything. All that would prove is that CoinHunter knows how to talk to RealSolid (easy enough via IRC), and RealSolid was kind enough to sign a message with a key.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Cosbycoin on March 17, 2012, 02:32:21 AM
OMG This whole thread is worthless aside from the fact that a cockroach was outed.  ::)


Title: Re: delete
Post by: k9quaint on March 17, 2012, 04:13:28 AM

Except you are supposedly a member of the SoiledCoin development team (at least you claimed to be such in #solidcoin IRC) and you made the claim earlier that  RealSolid and Coinhunter were interchangeable. So now you claim you have no idea who RealSolid really is and thus have no idea who really is developing SoiledCoin. In fact, it could be anyone posting binaries of the SoiledCoin client right? Just like it could be anyone posting as RealSolid on solidcointalk.org.

At least you admit that there are multiple people using the CoinSchizo account and you have no idea who is saying what.

FYI, for people to claim to know so much about security you SoiledCoin folks demonstrate remarkably little in practice. RealSolid could sign something in IRC using a tyrant node key and Coinhunter could sign something on the forums using the same private key. Then we would know for sure the accounts were linked (or the tyrant node keys have been compromised). But of course, that is exactly what the SoiledCoin folks are trying to avoid, being accountable for their statements.



Again, your logic is flawed. Just because both accounts could provide a signed message in no way proves they are or are not the same person. Lets assume for a second that they are separate entities, now consider that CoinHunter could simply forward your message signing request on to RealSolid to have it signed and then CoinHunter proceeds post the reply on the forums. You would have the evidence you desired, yet it still does not prove anything. All that would prove is that CoinHunter knows how to talk to RealSolid (easy enough via IRC), and RealSolid was kind enough to sign a message with a key.

Again, you completely miss the point. I am not surprised given your group's inability to foster any sort of trust.

1.) You made the claim that Coinhunter and Realsolid are the same person.
2.) Realsolid has taken credit on numerous occasions in IRC, on SoiledCointalk, and these forums for the Coinhunter account.
3.) Now that RealSolid (and his sockpuppets) have shit all over your reputation, you are backpedaling like a clown on a unicycle.
4.) If a tyrant key signed message appears from both RealSolid on IRC and Coinhunter on these forums, we know RealSolid is linked to the Coinhunter account. Whoever actually posted the message is irrelevant. The message itself is authentic and RealSolid is willing to be accountable for at least one Coinhunter post.
5.) If RealSolid signs all of his Coinhunter messages with the tyrant keys, the posts cannot be altered or forged. Whoever actually does the posting does not matter. Everyone will know what is and what is not authentic RealSolid drivel.
6.) This fails if the tyrant private keys become compromised (as I stated) but then SoiledCoin fails as well, so all is moot anyway.
7.) None of you would ever sign your posts because you are all about avoiding accountability, not providing it.

Welcome to cryptographic signatures, enjoy your stay.