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Title: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: Dijital Para on June 12, 2014, 04:48:24 PM

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A group of Isle of Man businesses has launched an incubator for digital currency startups.

The incubator launch follows the island government’s announcement that it would seek to regulate digital currencies in a way that is favourable for companies working with the technology. To that end, the government is working on legislation that would be included under existing laws.
http://www.gov.im/news/2014/jun/10/isle-of-man-to-control-digital-currencies/
http://www.coindesk.com/isle-man-launches-digital-currency-startup-incubator/

They are trying to get a piece and host bitcoin companies on the island. What do you think?


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: Gianluca95 on June 12, 2014, 05:41:32 PM

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A group of Isle of Man businesses has launched an incubator for digital currency startups.

The incubator launch follows the island government’s announcement that it would seek to regulate digital currencies in a way that is favourable for companies working with the technology. To that end, the government is working on legislation that would be included under existing laws.
http://www.gov.im/news/2014/jun/10/isle-of-man-to-control-digital-currencies/
http://www.coindesk.com/isle-man-launches-digital-currency-startup-incubator/

They are trying to get a piece and host bitcoin companies on the island. What do you think?

Muck like for the project.

But I don't share the choice for the place, Isle of Man is a fiscal paradise, so, warning !


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: franky1 on June 12, 2014, 06:11:43 PM

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A group of Isle of Man businesses has launched an incubator for digital currency startups.

The incubator launch follows the island government’s announcement that it would seek to regulate digital currencies in a way that is favourable for companies working with the technology. To that end, the government is working on legislation that would be included under existing laws.
http://www.gov.im/news/2014/jun/10/isle-of-man-to-control-digital-currencies/
http://www.coindesk.com/isle-man-launches-digital-currency-startup-incubator/

They are trying to get a piece and host bitcoin companies on the island. What do you think?

Muck like for the project.

But I don't share the choice for the place, Isle of Man is a fiscal paradise, so, warning !

when looking at the utopian dream in another thread about someone wanting to bitcoin grab all bitcoins to make a bitcoin island. and then seeing this proposal.. i choose this proposal any day.

many millionaires moving their pound coins into the bitcoin ecosphere and all the shops and businesses on isle of man being bitcoin friendly (eventually).


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on June 12, 2014, 06:38:30 PM

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A group of Isle of Man businesses has launched an incubator for digital currency startups.

The incubator launch follows the island government’s announcement that it would seek to regulate digital currencies in a way that is favourable for companies working with the technology. To that end, the government is working on legislation that would be included under existing laws.
http://www.gov.im/news/2014/jun/10/isle-of-man-to-control-digital-currencies/
http://www.coindesk.com/isle-man-launches-digital-currency-startup-incubator/

They are trying to get a piece and host bitcoin companies on the island. What do you think?

i think its great  ;)

more will follow.


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: john641 on September 17, 2014, 10:47:57 AM
The Isle of Man is a well known offshore banking sector and it is my belief that this announcement basically states that IOM intends to be a leading hub for Bitcoin. So, good news...


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: TsuyokuNaritai on September 17, 2014, 12:10:21 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2gl71a/isle_of_man_withdraws_financial_services_support/  >:(


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: HarmonLi on September 17, 2014, 12:22:57 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2gl71a/isle_of_man_withdraws_financial_services_support/  >:(

I don't get why they did this... I mean this screams 'failure'... :/ This is horrible news, where have we come to if even such a Pro-Bitcoin country decides to drop the support for it? At least the price didn't tank that hard...


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: AriceInWonderland on September 17, 2014, 01:41:13 PM
It was even in the local newspaper these days https://i.imgur.com/oguxWY5.jpg


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: bitcoinbear on September 18, 2014, 12:13:55 PM
Wow, they are serious. I do hope this gets traction. The UK banks are hostile to bitcoin. This could be good.


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: Eastwind on September 20, 2014, 12:59:29 PM
I hope this is just the start.


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: nobbynobbynoob on September 20, 2014, 01:04:02 PM
Wow, they are serious. I do hope this gets traction. The UK banks are hostile to bitcoin. This could be good.

And it seems so are many of the Manx banks (probably mainly IoM branches of UK banks but still).

But the cryptosphere simply has to weather hostility from the banking sector - what else did we realistically mostly expect? Cryptocurrency and blockchain technology is their kryptonite so they aren't likely to be welcoming it with open arms, much as I think it is still profitable for well-managed banks to profit with crypto just like they always have with gold. Although I won't forget the "seen a ghost" reaction when I casually wandered into a Commonwealth Bank branch in North Melbourne (Victoria, Australia) asking if I could exchange my wad of $100 bills for gold bullion! :D


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: bornil267645 on September 20, 2014, 01:09:08 PM
With hash cloud on top... 8) 8)


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: grifferz on September 20, 2014, 09:00:12 PM
I don't get why they did this... I mean this screams 'failure'... :/ This is horrible news, where have we come to if even such a Pro-Bitcoin country decides to drop the support for it? At least the price didn't tank that hard...
I would speculate that UK banks told them to stop allowing Faster Payments from UK customers to their Bitcoin clients unless they want to lose FP entirely.


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: Jeramom on September 21, 2014, 07:09:23 PM
Damn, I wish I could come up with a Bitcoin business to take them up on the offer. I was in the Isle of man this weekend and it's a nice place.


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: BratinSbazhin on September 22, 2014, 06:06:01 AM
Does "Other Digital Currencies" include Cryptonote coins?


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: gonnafly on September 28, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
Does "Other Digital Currencies" include Cryptonote coins?

I know of at least one startup in the island that's working with a bunch of different cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: GTA on September 28, 2014, 03:11:45 PM
The Isle of Man is a well known offshore banking sector and it is my belief that this announcement basically states that IOM intends to be a leading hub for Bitcoin. So, good news...

The Isle of Man is a well known tax haven. I suspect this statement is to make it appear they are conforming to anti-money laundering regimes, while in practice they will be much more casual about it.


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: bambino on September 28, 2014, 03:55:58 PM
How are they trying to control digital currencies? Poor choice of words.
They are creating legal frameworks for digital currency businesses.


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: Robin_Good on September 28, 2014, 04:25:52 PM
How are they trying to control digital currencies? Poor choice of words.
They are creating legal frameworks for digital currency businesses.

Yeah, this is a pretty poor choice of headlines. The officials involved understand they can't actually control the digital currencies themselves. I've been tangentially involved in the growing Bitcoin scene on the island, and in my opinion the government has been (at least paying lip service toward) doing a shockingly good job at walking the line between being as hands off as possible to make sure innovation flourishes while trying to set up a framework to make sure banks are willing to work with Bitcoin companies and customers are protected.


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: logger on September 28, 2014, 04:54:48 PM
Isle of Man is also home to PokerStars. With regulation around online gaming with respect to banking, I would not be surprised to see the make a move in this sector. I'm not specifically talking about offering Poker to USA either, just in general.


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: NotAtOld on September 28, 2014, 06:08:12 PM
It's basically creating a place that exchanges can exist, legally.
This is a good thing.


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: cccarnation on September 28, 2014, 06:49:52 PM
We need a crypto credit union so merchants and the likes are not forced to deal with banks directly. This entity could be devoted to finding and maintaining partners with banking entities to do nothing but convert from crypto to fiat and back.


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: collinstar on September 28, 2014, 07:50:04 PM
We need a crypto credit union so merchants and the likes are not forced to deal with banks directly. This entity could be devoted to finding and maintaining partners with banking entities to do nothing but convert from crypto to fiat and back.

Well, even credit unions interface with fiat somewhere, whether that's a payment processor or Visa/Mastercard themselves. Those entities have just as much incentive to shut Bitcoin out, and will surely do so. The answer is to move more and more to a full Bitcoin economy. Get paid in BTC, spend it in BTC. I'm already 50-60% there (many of my dev contracts are paid in BTC, and I pay for many of my household expenses in BTC).


Title: Re: Isle of Man and Bitcoin?
Post by: Eastwind on October 01, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
We need a crypto credit union so merchants and the likes are not forced to deal with banks directly. This entity could be devoted to finding and maintaining partners with banking entities to do nothing but convert from crypto to fiat and back.

A coin bank.