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Title: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: cryptohunter on June 14, 2014, 02:12:13 PM Someone asked me this question yesterday.... and i realised they were correct. There have been no clones of xpm since it was released? why is that?
Or are there some? Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: gondel on June 14, 2014, 02:33:08 PM Someone asked me this question yesterday.... and i realised they were correct. There have been no clones of xpm since it was released? why is that? Why you need shit clones of XPM? XPM is awesome coin and must not be cloned! Hope there is not a XPM clone at all on he marketOr are there some? BR Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: ecoinspro on June 14, 2014, 04:12:10 PM I think QRK is a clone
Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: billotronic on June 14, 2014, 04:40:52 PM Quark is Quark and not a clone of XPM
Someone asked me this question yesterday.... and i realised they were correct. There have been no clones of xpm since it was released? why is that? Or are there some? My guess would be no one can figure out how to create the genesis block? Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: cryptohunter on June 14, 2014, 05:07:02 PM Someone asked me this question yesterday.... and i realised they were correct. There have been no clones of xpm since it was released? why is that? Why you need shit clones of XPM? XPM is awesome coin and must not be cloned! Hope there is not a XPM clone at all on he marketOr are there some? BR I'm not asking for clones, just wondered why nobody had cloned it as yet. Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: cryptohunter on June 14, 2014, 05:07:31 PM Quark is Quark and not a clone of XPM Someone asked me this question yesterday.... and i realised they were correct. There have been no clones of xpm since it was released? why is that? Or are there some? My guess would be no one can figure out how to create the genesis block? Yes, that seems likely. Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: Samoshi on June 14, 2014, 05:14:35 PM DataCoin (DTC) is a clone of Primecoin. You can save data in the blockchain!
Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: cryptohunter on June 14, 2014, 05:18:03 PM DataCoin (DTC) is a clone of Primecoin. You can save data in the blockchain! actually, yes you are correct. Thanks i had forgotten datacoin was based on xpm. I wonder why that coin has died out? was there not a 3rd part making some software making it easy to save data onto the blockchain. Then again i guess a huge blockchain is not for everyone. Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: mr_random on June 14, 2014, 05:53:31 PM A clone was planned. Riemann coin or something spelled similarly. I can't remember if it ever launched.
Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: ChuckOne on June 14, 2014, 05:57:09 PM Someone asked me this question yesterday.... and i realised they were correct. There have been no clones of xpm since it was released? why is that? Or are there some? My perception is that nobody really cares or thinks to make money with XPM. So, no clones to make more money. Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: PurpleTentacle on June 14, 2014, 06:04:44 PM A clone was planned. Riemann coin or something spelled similarly. I can't remember if it ever launched. It's called Riecoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=446703.0), it launched 4 months ago Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: gjhiggins on June 14, 2014, 06:48:53 PM Or are there some? There are four that I'm aware of:
And Riecoin is a modified clone of PrimeCoin, it uses prime constellations for PoW:
Cheers, Graham Edited url for Riecoin's bct ref Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: billotronic on June 14, 2014, 10:05:26 PM Damn ok so not many at least.
Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: Spoetnik on June 14, 2014, 10:25:38 PM I think QRK is a clone NO. Quark was first of its kind and about as far away from XPM as possible. Securecoin was the first clone of quark. Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: billotronic on June 14, 2014, 11:12:13 PM Not to get too far off topic but there wasn't a lot of quark clones either, right? I can think of just frozen and offerings...
Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: MisO69 on June 14, 2014, 11:19:57 PM Nobody makes them because nobody knows how to make pools for Primecoin clones. With the exception of a handful of developers.
Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: gjhiggins on June 15, 2014, 12:38:14 AM Not to get too far off topic but there wasn't a lot of quark clones either, right? I can think of just frozen and offerings... <sings>Ah, yes, I remember it well</sings>
Cheers, Graham Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: riecoiner1 on June 15, 2014, 01:47:01 AM Riecoin is not a modified clone of primecoin. It is a direct fork of bitcoin and it has nothing to do with primecoin. I think it is much better. And yes there are not many forks, probably because of the lack of open source pool backends Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: cinnamon_carter on June 15, 2014, 01:49:04 AM datacoin cloned primecoin
i think people are reluctant to clone something few have a good handle on 'instamining' or using for pump and dump purposes. Someone asked me this question yesterday.... and i realised they were correct. There have been no clones of xpm since it was released? why is that? Or are there some? Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: cinnamon_carter on June 15, 2014, 01:51:13 AM riecoin to my understanding was in development before primecoin and is not a clone
compare the source code you will find them quite different A clone was planned. Riemann coin or something spelled similarly. I can't remember if it ever launched. It's called Riecoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=446703.0), it launched 4 months ago Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: gjhiggins on June 15, 2014, 01:55:10 AM Riecoin is not a modified clone of primecoin. It is a direct fork of bitcoin and it has nothing to do with primecoin. I stand corrected. Thanks for that, I'd completely missed that rather important difference. Cheers, Graham Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: PurpleTentacle on June 15, 2014, 07:18:28 AM Riecoin is not a modified clone of primecoin. It is a direct fork of bitcoin and it has nothing to do with primecoin. I stand corrected. Thanks for that, I'd completely missed that rather important difference. Cheers, Graham +1 I didn't know that either. Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: pastet89 on June 15, 2014, 10:47:54 AM Primecoins is a great idea, helping science, like curecoin.
Problem with it is the lack of cap of inflation... Shame if these 2 great coins die. Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: billotronic on June 15, 2014, 02:40:02 PM Not to get too far off topic but there wasn't a lot of quark clones either, right? I can think of just frozen and offerings... <sings>Ah, yes, I remember it well</sings>
Cheers, Graham holy shit thats a list! Thanks Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: Samoshi on June 20, 2014, 06:43:46 PM I hope primecoin will survive in the long term! We need more clone! Primecoin clone POS can be nice.
If we see it one day, ASIC for primecoin would be much more useful than asic for scrypt, X11, X13, or any other useless algo... Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: cinnamon_carter on July 09, 2014, 12:07:19 PM how would this be more useful ?
to whom ? I hope primecoin will survive in the long term! We need more clone! Primecoin clone POS can be nice. If we see it one day, ASIC for primecoin would be much more useful than asic for scrypt, X11, X13, or any other useless algo... Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: Samoshi on July 09, 2014, 05:00:14 PM To the entire world civilization!
how would this be more useful ? to whom ? I hope primecoin will survive in the long term! We need more clone! Primecoin clone POS can be nice. If we see it one day, ASIC for primecoin would be much more useful than asic for scrypt, X11, X13, or any other useless algo... Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: cinnamon_carter on July 12, 2014, 12:59:53 AM sorry but i cannot agree,
prime coin has broken some world records that is cool however cunningham chains have few known applications or use outside of the study of number theory i guess it is possible there would be a use for them in the future however that is not certain and the benefit to anyone mankind, miners, ect... is really zero compared with almost any other proof of work used in a coin that discoveres nothing I would suggest you check out riecoin, it is by far better designed than primecoin and a more likely to offer some small contribution of scientific value through it's proof of work, To the entire world civilization! how would this be more useful ? to whom ? I hope primecoin will survive in the long term! We need more clone! Primecoin clone POS can be nice. If we see it one day, ASIC for primecoin would be much more useful than asic for scrypt, X11, X13, or any other useless algo... Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: yldouright on August 02, 2014, 01:04:51 PM cinnamon_carter
Is there anything produced by Riecoin that Primecoin doesn't produce as output? billotronic, Samoshi If we logically assess the conclusion of a global crypto-currency, it seems to point to a one coin scenario. The vast majority of pundits are on the record stating BTC will be that coin. When we consider the potential problems and destructive effects of value with merged mining it is not unreasonable to assume the eventual demise of all the other altcoins. In fact, there are very few alt-coins exhibiting healthy charts and the number of dead and nearly dead crypto is growing. Still, you have some investors willing to take that chance, note the link below: Primecoin [XPM] is being purchased here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530163.msg7545859#msg7545859). Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: cinnamon_carter on August 03, 2014, 03:00:22 AM if you think the alt coin scene is dying and bitcoin is the only game in town you are not really paying attention,
prime coin was never intended for anything more than a short term 'wealth' creation scheme that i must admit even I was hoodwinked under i don't have time to write papers, articles or convince other people of the reality around them yoiu can follow me on twitter and pick up a few tid bits but few of my tweets are about coins i run things honestly but I don't have time to give lessons to others sorry :D Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: hicaribou on August 03, 2014, 03:47:16 AM Primecoins is a great idea, helping science, like curecoin. Problem with it is the lack of cap of inflation... Shame if these 2 great coins die. Sunny King replied crypto_coiner who posted the followings on July 27, 2014 at chatroom of peercointalk.org: "Thanks for your support of primecoin. I think it's fair to say that I designed primecoin not only as a breakthrough as scientific computing apparatus, but actually as a quality replacement of other more dominant PoW cryptocurrencies as they ignore the long term security challenges. Rebranding though is not necessary I think, at least the English name Primecoin does not really limited it to prime numbers, so I think the name is fine as it is. It may appear that primecoin has less development support at this point, but at least from my point of view primecoin would have my support. My current undertaking on sidechains, might even be tried on primecoin first, due to it's different properties. Although this shouldn't be taken as a promise. But in any case, if sidechains materialize primecoin would also have my support at some point." "Hi crypto_coiner, long-term bitcoin security relies mainly on transaction fees. primecoin realistically would continue to have some subsidy long term, so less reliant on transaction fees for security. I am of the opinion that the PoW sector and PoS sector would coexist for a long time. Although recently primecoin was lackluster in the PoW market. There was no plan to combine the two currencies, they were designed as two separate networks, both with strong security. Peercoin is better as savings instrument, primecoin is better as transactional medium. Best Regards," Sunny King also talked Primecoin in the interview by Let's Talk Bitcoin: The Real Sunny http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/the-real-sunny Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: gjhiggins on August 03, 2014, 11:30:23 AM Sunny King replied crypto_coiner... Thanks for that transclusion, I found it most useful. Cheers Graham Title: Re: Primecoin - why no clones? Post by: SpeedDemon13 on August 03, 2014, 12:13:24 PM As previously stated, only Datacoin is a clone of XPM. Riecoin is it's own algo, with some similarities in XPM, but totally a different algo.
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