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Title: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: Whoisthelorax on June 14, 2014, 08:23:29 PM
Peercoin
Primecoin
Namecoin
Ixcoin (lol)
Quark
Megacoin
Zetacoin
Feathercoin
Worldcoin
Novacoin
Infinitecoin
Litecoin
Dogecoin


Now, I will get heat for LTC and DOGE, no doubt. I acknowledge that they are doing the best on this list. So for sake of argument, don't focus on those.

All the rest are on massive downswings.

see graphs for these at http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=the_first_wave_of_alt_coins_are_dying (http://)



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Who thinks any of these (other than LTC and DOGE) will make it to 2015 with a higher market cap than they have now?



Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: Scott J on June 14, 2014, 08:26:01 PM
Yep, I have been witnessing this.

Other than LTC and DOGE, I think only Primecoin might find a small niche.

Link doesn't work.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: gorillajam on June 14, 2014, 08:30:18 PM
They are all Bitcoin clones.


They have no right to be respected over brand new code second gen coins like NXT and Qora.

The old is going the new is coming. Innovation always wins in the end, that's progress.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: BitzMD on June 14, 2014, 08:31:09 PM
Pretty soon will be saying the same about nxt, qora, etc


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: ChuckOne on June 14, 2014, 08:32:58 PM
Yep, I have been witnessing this.

Other than LTC and DOGE, I think only Primecoin might find a small niche.

Link doesn't work.

I agree. Even if I do not have much use-cases for primecoin. But it could be valuable for the academic world.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: ChuckOne on June 14, 2014, 08:33:51 PM
Pretty soon will be saying the same about nxt, qora, etc

When the next wave of innovation will come over us. Certainly. Or they can adapt.

Those who change will survive.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: gorillajam on June 14, 2014, 08:38:32 PM
Pretty soon will be saying the same about nxt, qora, etc



If something comes along that is better then sure why not.  


The bitcoin clones had no right really to be respected. They 99% of the time brought nothing new to the table. Darkcoin brought anonymity but soon that could be standard in other coins including Qora otherwise Bitcoin clones are ultimately a marketing joke that went on too long.


There are those who take crypto seriously as a way out of FED monetary bondage and there are those who want to score some fiat.

Unless you bring something genuine and new to the table that could seriously be used as a digital currency by a lrage percentage of people then you don't deserve to be anything other than a pump and dump.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: TheCloser on June 14, 2014, 08:43:29 PM
Yea, litecoin is dying.  ::)

Network hashrate is over 10k now.

Tech geeks know very little about economics which is why I'm crypto rich and your still trying to get there pawning your new "innovative" coins on newbs.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: gorillajam on June 14, 2014, 08:45:12 PM
Pretty soon will be saying the same about nxt, qora, etc

When the next wave of innovation will come over us. Certainly. Or they can adapt.

Those who change will survive.


Which is why Qora has made as a central guiding direction to make Qora with the ability to adapt to future developments in crypto.

Which is one reason I'm a believer.


I'm gonna make a bold prediction here, this is how I think coinmarketcap will look in 6 months. I'll look like a genius if it comes true!

1. Bitcoin
2. NXT
3. Darkcoin
4. Qora
5. NEM (sadly, as its a shitcoin imo but has a lot of fans to pump it)


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: gorillajam on June 14, 2014, 08:54:15 PM
Yea, litecoin is dying.  ::)

Network hashrate is over 10k now.

Tech geeks know very little about economics which is why I'm crypto rich and your still trying to get there pawning your new "innovative" coins on newbs.



Actually i'm rich cause I got in early on NXT, Qora and Darkcoin. Unless you're a genius/lucky trader shitcoins are like playing penny stocks.

Some coins you can buy and forget about them.



If you did only one thing and that was buy any coin with a genuine innovation or is a new code and that would include Bitcoin the second it came out then you would be silly rich right now.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: ChuckOne on June 14, 2014, 08:56:29 PM
Pretty soon will be saying the same about nxt, qora, etc

When the next wave of innovation will come over us. Certainly. Or they can adapt.

Those who change will survive.


Which is why Qora has made as a central guiding direction to make Qora with the ability to adapt to future developments in crypto.

Which is one reason I'm a believer.


I'm gonna make a bold prediction here, this is how I think coinmarketcap will look in 6 months. I'll look like a genius if it comes true!

1. Bitcoin
2. NXT
3. Darkcoin
4. Qora
5. NEM (sadly, as its a shitcoin imo but has a lot of fans to pump it)

NEM = DOGE 2.0?


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: TaunSew on June 14, 2014, 08:58:55 PM
Pretty soon will be saying the same about nxt, qora, etc

When the next wave of innovation will come over us. Certainly. Or they can adapt.

Those who change will survive.


Which is why Qora has made as a central guiding direction to make Qora with the ability to adapt to future developments in crypto.

Which is one reason I'm a believer.


I'm gonna make a bold prediction here, this is how I think coinmarketcap will look in 6 months. I'll look like a genius if it comes true!

1. Bitcoin
2. NXT
3. Darkcoin
4. NEM

Fixed.  Qora didn't belong on the list, besides it only has a capitalization around 2 million (even NEM, pre-launch, is bigger than that).

As well Darkcoin has been on the decline since it was pumped to its' height.  It'll probably be

Bitcoin
NxT
NEM





Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: gorillajam on June 14, 2014, 09:01:55 PM
Pretty soon will be saying the same about nxt, qora, etc

When the next wave of innovation will come over us. Certainly. Or they can adapt.

Those who change will survive.


Which is why Qora has made as a central guiding direction to make Qora with the ability to adapt to future developments in crypto.

Which is one reason I'm a believer.


I'm gonna make a bold prediction here, this is how I think coinmarketcap will look in 6 months. I'll look like a genius if it comes true!

1. Bitcoin
2. NXT
3. Darkcoin
4. Qora
5. NEM (sadly, as its a shitcoin imo but has a lot of fans to pump it)

NEM = DOGE 2.0?

pretty much.

Hopefully the UP scam episode buries it but so many people follow it like a cult I wonder if anything is possible.

I hate NEM cause it spammed NXT to death over fairness and then sold its coin on a false concept of fairness and the leader is now exposed as a typical Communist type who wants equality for everyone, expect himself. It pisses me off as a concept from the start.


I was gonna put Exocoin at 5, again due to innovation but I'm not sure they can get their shit together or even its not a scam even.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: TaunSew on June 14, 2014, 09:02:04 PM
Pretty soon will be saying the same about nxt, qora, etc

When the next wave of innovation will come over us. Certainly. Or they can adapt.

Those who change will survive.


Which is why Qora has made as a central guiding direction to make Qora with the ability to adapt to future developments in crypto.

Which is one reason I'm a believer.


I'm gonna make a bold prediction here, this is how I think coinmarketcap will look in 6 months. I'll look like a genius if it comes true!

1. Bitcoin
2. NXT
3. Darkcoin
4. Qora
5. NEM (sadly, as its a shitcoin imo but has a lot of fans to pump it)

NEM = DOGE 2.0?

Doge was worth more than NxT around a month ago (or was it two?) and has way more volume.   That was not counting Doge's inflation model or generation 1.0.  If NEM is really Doge 2.0 (but with innovation) then NxT may as well be dead.



Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: gorillajam on June 14, 2014, 09:03:45 PM
Pretty soon will be saying the same about nxt, qora, etc

When the next wave of innovation will come over us. Certainly. Or they can adapt.

Those who change will survive.


Which is why Qora has made as a central guiding direction to make Qora with the ability to adapt to future developments in crypto.

Which is one reason I'm a believer.


I'm gonna make a bold prediction here, this is how I think coinmarketcap will look in 6 months. I'll look like a genius if it comes true!

1. Bitcoin
2. NXT
3. Darkcoin
4. NEM

Fixed.  Qora didn't belong on the list, besides it only has a capitalization around 2 million (even NEM, pre-launch, is bigger than that).

As well Darkcoin has been on the decline since it was pumped to its' height.  It'll probably be

Bitcoin
NxT
NEM






LOL Didn't you get the memo? your glorious leader is a second rate sockpuppet scumbag.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: TaunSew on June 14, 2014, 09:05:36 PM
Pretty soon will be saying the same about nxt, qora, etc

When the next wave of innovation will come over us. Certainly. Or they can adapt.

Those who change will survive.


Which is why Qora has made as a central guiding direction to make Qora with the ability to adapt to future developments in crypto.

Which is one reason I'm a believer.


I'm gonna make a bold prediction here, this is how I think coinmarketcap will look in 6 months. I'll look like a genius if it comes true!

1. Bitcoin
2. NXT
3. Darkcoin
4. NEM

Fixed.  Qora didn't belong on the list, besides it only has a capitalization around 2 million (even NEM, pre-launch, is bigger than that).

As well Darkcoin has been on the decline since it was pumped to its' height.  It'll probably be

Bitcoin
NxT
NEM






Didn't you get the memo? your glorious leader is a second rate sockpuppet scumbag.

He's not the leader anymore.  Besides, all he did was use sockpuppets to promote NEM back in January, before it had its' current developers and 2800+ stakeholders, and he later took those sockpuppets off the stakeholder list.  Being caught doing it was worse than the crime itself.  Price of NEM is unphased and we still have 2800+ stakeholders.  Better distribution than any crypto in history.

Whereas Qora is... 80% sockpuppet promotion / ownership?


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: gorillajam on June 14, 2014, 09:05:59 PM
Pretty soon will be saying the same about nxt, qora, etc

When the next wave of innovation will come over us. Certainly. Or they can adapt.

Those who change will survive.


Which is why Qora has made as a central guiding direction to make Qora with the ability to adapt to future developments in crypto.

Which is one reason I'm a believer.


I'm gonna make a bold prediction here, this is how I think coinmarketcap will look in 6 months. I'll look like a genius if it comes true!

1. Bitcoin
2. NXT
3. Darkcoin
4. Qora
5. NEM (sadly, as its a shitcoin imo but has a lot of fans to pump it)

NEM = DOGE 2.0?

Doge was worth more than NxT around a month ago (or was it two?) and has way more volume.   That was not counting Doge's inflation model or generation 1.0.  If NEM is really Doge 2.0 (but with innovation) then NxT may as well be dead.




Innovation grows steadily, marketing hype coins and gimmicks burn brightly then steadily decline.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: gorillajam on June 14, 2014, 09:08:53 PM
Pretty soon will be saying the same about nxt, qora, etc

When the next wave of innovation will come over us. Certainly. Or they can adapt.

Those who change will survive.


Which is why Qora has made as a central guiding direction to make Qora with the ability to adapt to future developments in crypto.

Which is one reason I'm a believer.


I'm gonna make a bold prediction here, this is how I think coinmarketcap will look in 6 months. I'll look like a genius if it comes true!

1. Bitcoin
2. NXT
3. Darkcoin
4. NEM

Fixed.  Qora didn't belong on the list, besides it only has a capitalization around 2 million (even NEM, pre-launch, is bigger than that).

As well Darkcoin has been on the decline since it was pumped to its' height.  It'll probably be

Bitcoin
NxT
NEM






Didn't you get the memo? your glorious leader is a second rate sockpuppet scumbag.

He's not the leader anymore.  Besides, all he did was use sockpuppets to promote NEM back in January, before it had its' current developers and 2800+ stakeholders, and he later took those sockpuppets off the stakeholder list.  Being caught doing it was worse than the crime itself.  Price of NEM is unphased and we still have 2800+ stakeholders.  Better distribution than any crypto in history.

Whereas Qora is... 80% sockpuppet promotion / ownership?


Never get emotionally attached to an investment my friend, let it go.

How the hell do you expect a coin based on fairness be shown to be lead by a scammer?

Actually as much as it frustrates your intelligence. Its impossible for Qora to of has any more coins than you or me could of had. It was an open Bitcoin send in pure POS.

Do you struggle with facts?


NEM is a reworked Clone of NXT into C++ any fool can see that. never gonna happen for NEM now, never..

Trust me it would be better for you to swallow your pride, sell you NEM as soon as possible and buy Qora. I'm trying to help you.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: ChuckOne on June 14, 2014, 09:09:02 PM
Doge was worth more than NxT around a month ago (or was it two?) and has way more volume.   That was not counting Doge's inflation model or generation 1.0.  If NEM is really Doge 2.0 (but with innovation) then NxT may as well be dead.

Looking into historical charts, that is plain wrong. DOGE was never more valuable than Nxt is now.

Btw, you are still talking about the wrong Nxt.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: TaunSew on June 14, 2014, 09:12:36 PM
Doge was worth more than NxT around a month ago (or was it two?) and has way more volume.   That was not counting Doge's inflation model or generation 1.0.  If NEM is really Doge 2.0 (but with innovation) then NxT may as well be dead.

Looking into historical charts, that is plain wrong. DOGE was never more valuable than Nxt is now.

Btw, you are still talking about the wrong Nxt.

Why lie about something which is fact and everyone saw it for a long time?  NxT was worth less than Doge for awhile.

http://coinmarketcap.com/doge_90.html
http://coinmarketcap.com/nxt_90.html

Doge $53 million April 16
NxT $28 million April 16

NxT did not overcome Doge until mid-May.  Doge then suffered NxT sydrome but not over the distribution but rather Doge being 1.0 and inflationary.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: gorillajam on June 14, 2014, 09:15:10 PM
Doge was worth more than NxT around a month ago (or was it two?) and has way more volume.   That was not counting Doge's inflation model or generation 1.0.  If NEM is really Doge 2.0 (but with innovation) then NxT may as well be dead.

Looking into historical charts, that is plain wrong. DOGE was never more valuable than Nxt is now.

Btw, you are still talking about the wrong Nxt.

Why lie about something which is fact and everyone saw it for a long time?  NxT was worth less than Doge for awhile.

http://coinmarketcap.com/doge_90.html
http://coinmarketcap.com/nxt_90.html

Doge $53 million April 16
NxT $28 million April 16

NxT did not overcome Doge until mid-May.  Doge then suffered NxT sydrome but not over the distribution but rather Doge being 1.0 and inflationary.




Actually NXT was around 100m market cap quite early on and then it got bogged down by scam accusations by yes....people like UP. LOL

http://coinmarketcap.com/nxt_180.html

That is the fact. And a good example of the truth you can't keep a good coin down forever.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: From Above on June 14, 2014, 09:15:13 PM
NEM will Overtake all. The only coin with Satoshi Nakamoto on Board.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: gorillajam on June 14, 2014, 09:18:27 PM
NEM will Overtake all. The only coin with Satoshi Nakamoto on Board.


What I find funny/interesting/confusing about you is that you singlehandly brought down NEM by revealing the truth but you still think it has legs to run as a scam free coin.


You are not just living on cloud cuckcooland, you have bought a condo there and have permanently moved in. LOL!


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: reRaise on June 14, 2014, 11:21:27 PM
quark is not, i follow it closely, there is lots of activity and the biggest game using it for payments isn't even out yet (2015). Same goes for litecoin and doge, follow them closer instead of talking shit. Would love to know which coins you are holding.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: gorillajam on June 14, 2014, 11:51:11 PM
quark is not, i follow it closely, there is lots of activity and the biggest game using it for payments isn't even out yet (2015). Same goes for litecoin and doge, follow them closer instead of talking shit. Would love to know which coins you are holding.


Bitcoin, NXT, Qora.


The first two are already on the moon, the third is about to go there.  ;D


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: TaunSew on June 14, 2014, 11:52:25 PM
quark is not, i follow it closely, there is lots of activity and the biggest game using it for payments isn't even out yet (2015). Same goes for litecoin and doge, follow them closer instead of talking shit. Would love to know which coins you are holding.


Bitcoin, NXT.


The first two are already on the moon, the third is about to go there.  ;D

Qora removed.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: darkota on June 14, 2014, 11:53:31 PM
quark is not, i follow it closely, there is lots of activity and the biggest game using it for payments isn't even out yet (2015). Same goes for litecoin and doge, follow them closer instead of talking shit. Would love to know which coins you are holding.


Bitcoin.

The first two are already on the moon, the third is about to go there.  ;D

Qora removed.

NXT removed.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: counter on June 15, 2014, 12:01:25 AM
I'm going to have to say NMC is going to make the cut for sure at this time.  Many coins just need to find the right amount of attention from the right people and things could start taking off if you ask me.  I think the public is still taking the different things in because this is all very new to the average person who is expected to buy these coins with their hard earned money.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: rikkejohn on June 15, 2014, 12:26:21 AM
I'm almost certain LTC is nowhere near to dying. I think Peercoin will survive, too.

Sorry to Doge, but I can't see it being around long-term. The same applies to the rest, although a couple might well find niches (NMC perhaps).

It's a new paradigm, and something new and clever is on the horizon. Just not sure what.


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: Crindon on June 15, 2014, 12:48:58 AM
I don't think Litecoin is dying. It seems to be holding at 0.017. I do think it will pick up soon.

Litecoin is the original altcoin, so it won't go away.

There may be popular coins popping up with some really useful innovation like encrypted messaging (CINNI).

It is too bad that Quark died. I really liked Quark. The symbol for the coin was really cool. I wonder if Bill Still dumped all of his Quark?

http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/5x06/trialstribbleations587.jpg


Title: Re: First Wave of Top Original Alts Dying...
Post by: TheMage on June 15, 2014, 01:45:29 AM
Peercoin
Primecoin
Namecoin
Ixcoin (lol)
Quark
Megacoin
Zetacoin
Feathercoin
Worldcoin
Novacoin
Infinitecoin
Litecoin
Dogecoin


Now, I will get heat for LTC and DOGE, no doubt. I acknowledge that they are doing the best on this list. So for sake of argument, don't focus on those.

All the rest are on massive downswings.

see graphs for these at http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=the_first_wave_of_alt_coins_are_dying (http://)



---------------

Who thinks any of these (other than LTC and DOGE) will make it to 2015 with a higher market cap than they have now?



Your LTC issues were addressed in the other thread (and you never responded to my last post after you asked me why I didn't answer you right away  ::)), not sure why you felt the need to make another post unless you are trying to pump up page views to your site.

So yea, I dont see Liitecoin going anywhere. I can't really comment on the rest. Also I really like the Dogecoin community, I hope they dont die off :(.