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The user Vod (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30747) is abusing the trust system and gives new users fake negative reputation out of pure retardation and stupidity. If you have proof of a scam, post it in accusation section and stop giving fake rep you abusing piece of shit. The is the worst forums on the world and has the most hostile environment, I'm quitting bitcoins for this sole reason and I'll post negative comments about bitcoin and this forums on every website I'm on and also every place I find on the internet. Hope you all die before btc falls.

Its just a warning, you should offer using escrow and talk to Vod. Posting here will change nothing.
Giving negative feeback yourself (doing what you do is wrong) will not help either.


If you act like a teen, dont expect people to take you serious.

+1
He probably is a teen if you look it at that. I was banned here, so should I go around and whine about the ban and quit Bitcoin?  :D
Nobody can help you with the matter, OP talk to Vod. The trust system is just an addition, you should never solely rely on it though.

I don't really get it.

OP created the thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=595114.0 on May 4, asking others to give him negative trust.
Vod gave him a negative trust on May 12 for another reason, and now OP is not happy?  ???

I want fake negative not real ones, I want -1000 or something not -4. Vod is a bastard nolife.

Eh? Ok, now it's crystal clear what you want... ( ??? )

What's the fucking difference? Jesus. This forum is starting to get ridiculous. As said on HackForums:

"There's either red apples or green apples."

In case you guys have no idea what that means, it means it's either negative trust or positive trust. There's really nothing in between.

Newbie giving a loan is not acceptably on this forum that is why he gave you negative trust.

So, instead of wanting Vod to remove his negative trust, you want more people to put negative trust on you and make your trust even more negative?

I could've sworn the full moon was last Friday, sure are a lot of crazy's posting tonight.  Why the hell would anyone want fake negative trust?

I offered to give a loan, Vod is a motherfucking asshole cunt. Hope he gets cunt cancer. Fuck you bitch.


I want this shitbag to remove his negative, then I want all others to give me negative. Fuck you again Vod.

I guess I will stop here, as I don't get your point at all.
I don't think Vod will remove his feedback, so good luck getting others to give you more negative trust....

What Vod does is prevent people from getting scammed which it seems he does a nice job at.

Haha caught another scammer! Good job Vod! I wonder if it's the same guy though cause I swear we see a thread like this every month.

Vod is a shill that works with a ring of scammers.

I assume everyone knows by now you are a pathological liar.  Nothing you post has any truth.   ;)

Trust:   -28: -5 / +0(0)
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!

I cant see the trust? ???

Click on his username and view his profile. Trust scores don't show up in Meta and some of the other subforums.

Vod can you remove your negative feedback from my profile ... because i know that you make to stop being scammed but i dont want loan just thought to become a member or sr .. and earn from sig campaign please VOd..

Vod get cancer and die you bitch

Wow your a prize cock arn't you, never mind back to school Monday, make sure you have done your homework !

Vod remove your negative and give me negative back.

Hi Vod,

You gave me a negative feedback/trust/reputation and accused me of running a "classic BTCjam scam". I have already send you a pm, but still no reply.. I hope you can remove the negative feedback from my account as I totally have no intention to scam someone. I have never scammed anyone and I will never do!

Thanks in advance!

~ Luc

Vod is a sick and obsessed motherfucker, he will never remove your rating. Just make another account.

Hi Reav3R,

Thank you for your reply.

I'm not looking to create a new account and I really don't care who or what Vod is as this is irrelevant for my trust feedback. However I would like to speak to him so he can motivate his reason why he has given me a negative trust without any clear reasons. I havent got a reply from him since.. I'll contact a moderator on the forum if I don't hear anything from him in the upcoming days.

I really think the current trust system is not working correctly as you can accuse everyone for things that they are not (scammers) or have done. I hope a moderator can oversee this and help me out here.

Thanks anyway,

~ Luc

Moderators won't get involved with issues with the trust system, so your only option is to try state your case and work it out with Vod.

Thank you for your reply, but what would be possible to do as Vod does not replies to my PM?

~ Luc

I don't know. There's not much you can do unfortunately. Maybe he will reply eventually or he'll respond to this thread. How long ago did you message him and how many times?

Just once, yesterday so i will wait a little longer than :)

Thanks for your help!

~ Luc

Can't really blame Vod, BTCJam have a poor arbitration system, they don't really make the lender return the loan. Vod wanted warn everyone just in case you scam as this is rather high risk.

Hi Ranochigo,

I really can understand that and I totally agree that there is an risk with lending through btcjam. I invested myself some btc trough btcjam and lost them because a user didn't pay it back. However most of the funds invested in btcjam have been paid back on time :)

I think a trust system is really helpfull for a forum like this, however it should not be that i now have to deal with getting a "unmotivated and unfair" negative trust and have to do everything to remove it from my account. I will never, and really never scam people, it is just wrong and i would never like to lose my personal and business reputation over a scam (much much more to lose than you'll ever gain)!

Anyway, everyone thanks for the help and i'll wait it out

~ Luc

letuslook  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=135056)please fuck off gently and make your own thread instead of jacking mine, thank you for your cooperation.

I'll leave this thread :-) thank you for your friendly words!

~ Luc

That's definitely not what I want. :-X
I want his negative trust removed.

vod is a fukup

As everyone said, Trust system is un-moderated and it's basically the buyer/seller responsibility to check the feedbacks and see if they are reasonable or not. If you sell something in the future just send them this topic's link (to show your arguments about the feedback).

So you are happy with the negative trust, but not happy with the feedback contents?

He's probably hoping to drown out legitimate negative feedback with a bunch of nonsense negative feedback.

No I want to beat Trade Fortress and I will eventually.

Impossible

We'll see.

Nah, you won't reach that target IMO.
It is really "hard" to get as many people angry and annoyed, unless you have a big business, like TF was.
Also, you may get banned for sending unsolicited PMs, before receiving "enough" negative trusts. (I can see that from your trust page).

Exactly.  In this case, he took put 9 "reputation" loans climbing to 0.3btc.  Then suddenly two simultaneous loan requests for 9btc - a 30x increase.
https://btcjam.com/users/18891

Looks like a reputation scam to me, so I don't trust you.  I will remove the negative trust once you have made a couple payments on your two active loans.


I don't have the time or interest to reply to every PM I receive and if people PM multiple times I just block them.  Most of them offer no new information, simply saying "I'm not a scammer" or "I've never scammed anyone".  Same thing I read from everyone who eventually scams.  Every scammer has to have their first scam - if your actions fit the profile of a scammer, expect me not to trust you.

I don't understand why isn't banned. They're spamming unsolicited emails and are trying to make a mockery of the trust system.  How is all that not grounds for a ban?

Looks like the "emails" is a typo. :)

IIRC, only theymos can read the PMs.
But if you click "report to admin" after receiving an unsolicited PM, the global mods will be able to read it, and banned the sender if needed.

So, I guess the receivers haven't reported it yet. :D

Yes he's banned now, he was spamming PMs, I got 2 in the past couple days sent to multiple recipients, I'm sure there were many more.

Hi Vod,

I can understand the suspicion, but i'll pay back everything correctly on time :)
I'll send you another pm on the 10th then (first payment is due to the 10th of the month)

~ Luc

For how long?

Trust system is broke, it should alert you when someone leaves trust rating. I got negative trust, you can tell the person just skimmed the post a I made and then gave me negative feedback, off of what he thought it to be.

How I know he skimmed the post?
1  It was not a loan it was a security, its not a translation issue hes is from the USA.
2 It is legal in the state I am in... He did not read the full post.

See how that is broke? He got both reasons why he gave negative trust wrong but yet it still sticks, give me a break. It would be one thing if he had the facts right lmfao.

It seems the post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643994.msg7192250#msg7192250, link found in your trust page) has been removed, and so I couldn't evaluate your point 1 and 2...

Yup it was removed by mods, after he reported it lol.
It was a cannabis security, legal. They thought it was illegal cause I have a hidden room built in my house.

I kindly messaged him to remove or fix it at least but no response back. Thats why this thing is broke. The sad part is he got good trust from fighting scamers wtf kinda shit is that.

Vod, i also created here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664334.0

Sorry but you dint respond to my pm...

There was nothing to respond to.

Yeah, it was a typo. I was referring to the PM's, thanks for the catch.  Looking back at that post, I made a few errors.  Guess that's what happens with late night posting and a few beers, LOL!

No.. you were talking about PMs, not PM's. Unless there's a bar called PM's I don't know...


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