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SENIOR ACCOUNTS

Price: 0.35 btc
Activity: 250 - 300+
Neutral Trust Ratings


FULL MEMBER ACCOUNTS

Price: 0.1 btc
Activity: 120+
Neutral Trust Ratings


MEMBER ACCOUNTS

Price: 0.05 btc
Acitivity: 70+
Neutrial Trust Ratings

AGED NEWBIE ACCOUNTS

Registered in 2011 0.02 btc
Registered in 2012 0.015 btc
Registered in 2013 0.01 btc

Accept Escrow

All Prices are Negotiable

Yes, the price is negotiable. Pm me with your preferred price.

I'm not interested in buying any accounts. Just curious, where did you get this accounts? Are this hacked accounts? bought? or it is yours originally?

If they're hacked he's probably not going to tell you that is he? People just usually build them up theirselves to sell on or just sell their old alt accounts etc. Some even buy others accounts to re-sell.

I saw some sellers advertising they have a way to prove they own the account.

Maybe the seller will sign a message "The account xxx is sold to yyy on date zzz" with an address the account has been using?

I can imagine that if an account with significant notoriety has been hacked and/or sold, the original owner could verify his identity with the board and reclaim it.

Consider 0.1 for the full member?

All accounts is not bought or hacked. I can verify the accounts is mine.

Very much agree.



What do you mean by this? Though I haven't used his service, AFAIK, escrow.ms has been providing pretty good services.

What rule would that be? Stupid people enable scammers. Use escrow and you won't get scammed. And you don't need to buy an account to scam when you can just create a new one. Should we ban the creation or new accounts as well?

It's quite simple; don't trust people based on their forum activity or trust ratings (because people buy accounts!). Use escrow.

Making rules enables scammers as people then think they're safe.

What could be an ownership proof for accounts created from scratch? The forum doesn't even send an confirmation email.

 You can resell an account, but there is no guarantee that the reseller didn't bought an hacked account.

You could probably sign an address from one that was posted early on by the account. As long as the post wasn't edited this would be pretty good proof the account was created by you and definitely not hacked.

A screen capture can help?

You know whats funny is that theymos lets this shit happen knowing that at least 2 out of very 10 accounts is going to goto someone whos gonna try and scam people with something like.

Good feedback, lot of trust, buy from me it's safe.

yes people should use better judgement all the ime but the fact is that theymos can try to prevent most of this from happening but doesnt seem to really care even though yes i could be wrong but it doesnt seem likely.

Either way people, don't ever buy / trade accounts because it always comes back to you somwhow even if you mean well and just want a nice account to get a legit business or w/e goin.

Do you have official stats on those figures or have you just made them up to suit your argument? I think it's safe to say the vast majority of accounts are sold solely for signature campaigns and you don't need to buy an account to scam as you can do that just fine with a newbie account. A little bit of feedback shouldn't mean you can toss all judgement out of the window and throw your money around willy-nilly (though sold accounts rarely have any positive feedback - especially not trusted feedback). Use escrow and you should be fine. The reasoning behind the staff letting accounts be bought or sold is because they can't really stop it and letting it happen out in the open lets everyone know that it does indeed happen.

Enables scammers? How?

Why would you be able to scam with a higher activity account with neutral trust rating?

Higher activity = You've spent a longer time on that account on the forum

High activity =/= trustworthy

Just because you sat by your computer for a few minutes every 2 weeks for a few months / years doesn't mean you're a trustworthy person, meaning it'd be just as easy to scam without buying an account.

If you have more than 1 account, I thought sig campaigne is better way to generate more money for you.

He would have to post on these acounts whole days to earn money as if your posts won't be constructive you may get banned.

This should be banned. Only scammers will buy such accounts.

Most of the buyers buy it for signature campaign. Most scam are done by newbies with their new created account.

That's true, if you have good, constructive posts then you can have some addon money every month wich isn't bad. 

Maybe both, right? These accounts automatically get some trust level as a start!

Not both in any way i guess as you can't participate in any signature campaign if you have any negative trust.

you buying any accounts?

This dude here buys them:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=624612.80;topicseen

Not buying right now.

I don't think the buyers buy the accounts for reputation. I think they buy them for the status so that they can enter on the signature campaign and can earn more.

Are the staffs and moderators on this forum all in support of this?

I think no. But its not on the rules that selling account is not allowed.

I mean the buying/selling of accounts on here?

Its frowned upon which is obvious lol.

Better that it's out in the open where newbies can clearly see what is going on, rather than hidden somewhere off-site. Use your sense when considering trading with others. Use established escrow to reduce the likelihood of being scammed. Certainly don't trust someone because they have a certain rank or post count (why this would make someone more trustworthy is beyond me anyway).


People who are really against this would do better to spend their time posting warnings in the newbie sub-forum rather than trying to stop it. Education > censorship.

This is a real warning and a helpful tip as regards to fake scums buying full member, snr. member accts tand get users ripped of their hard-earned money on the forum as a result of interest trust in people they believe to have so much feedback and trust rating on the forum. I really don't like this motion as the hero members should please go against this. Any newbie can just fall into the trap and lose his/her money. that's why I always use escrow and middlemen to trade.

I think out of every retarded thing this forum lets people do, this takes the cake.
It is interesting to know the account is worth a little bit, but yeah as per my first line.... the forum really needs to re-evaluate. this has nothing to do with free speech etc etc.. its just bullshit is what it is.

I don't know why people refuse to acknowledge that if it was banned here, it would go on elsewhere, and therefore see why it's better to have it here, in the open.

If they disallow it, it will happen anyway through PM's, IRC's, etc. Accepting it as a possibility is easier than trying to fight something that you can't stop ;)

But considering so many noobs that'll fall victim of this kind of stuffs, the forum'a integrity will begin to drag. And that's  not good

Haha. Good one.   :D

As you've mentioned it that's purpose of escrow. Most of users use these bought accounts to parcipate in signature campaigns as sr member can currently earn 0.4btc per month by posting 

Exactly, i think the one reason why people buying aside from scamming is the signature campaign.. because you can easily return your investment in 1-2 months..
 specially if you buy the account cheaper... 
But i feel that mostly intention was to scam. :D lol

I've not seen any scam with trusted account in quite long time already, they are always newbies/members.

I believe someone with a bought full member account just scammed me $600 Paypal. I'm so sad at the moment. Stop this movement!

can you tell us what happen?

He had good feedbacks and I sent first, based on that, I sent him $600 Paypal first and now he paid $40 and ran away

What's the username of this information? You should fill in a scam accusation against the user (if you haven't already)

what did you buy from him? As far as i know you can make a dispute in paypal.
Thats your only hope.. your still lucky because you didnt pay using bitcoin.

is there any steep discounts if im a regular buyer?

How did you know it is bought account? Paypal can be reversed after 10 days, if not reverse it using your credit card you will get your money back but your paypal will be possibly limited. Why you don't use escrow? If you want to buy bitcoin with paypal use virwox or localbitcoins.

Lesson well learnt

I'm confused by your sudden change of philosophy  ???

Open dispute on paypal

He don't have any positive feedback at all, all is negative feedbacks.  :)

Why would I want to purchase an account?

People usually buy an account for signature ads campaign.
Why won't people just make it?
Because it takes time to reach some ranks. Minimum ranks is required to join signature campaign.
Also remember that the higher the ranks, the more they'll get paid from sig campaign.

that's not enough good reason. does that mean they can buy any full member and above account with red flag?

oh, ok thank you :)

Hmm sorry but what do you mean with red flag? Negative trust?
If you mean account with negative trust, no. Majority of signature campaign doesn't accepting members with negative trust, even if it's Hero member.

are you aware people fall for scams through buying all this accounts?

Really? Any evidence of this? People fall for scams from newbs as well. You just cant help some people.

Not really. Any proof?
I don't think anyone would do a transaction with stranger without escrow. Unless they're a reputable and trusted member of this forum. And reputable is different to rank status. Not every hero member is a reputable and trusted, vice versa.
I'm sure people doesn't trust other based on forum ranks.

Of course they do. This is how most people get scammed unfortunately. Use escrow and you're fine. Don't use one and you get scammed. Unfortunately a lot of people learn the hard way on this.

oh why have service selling acct on fourm here ?
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #n6AAPHe6K0Mzq0tr

Why not? People buy them to use for signature campaigns and obviously there's money to be made on both sides both buying and selling.

This should really be stopped or done only within trusted members network. It's very much ok that way than selling senior member account or full member account to some newbies

LOL no they don't.

What makes you say this? It's clearly profitable.

you have acct feedback on forum?
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #BP54PzpUZdYHjQjm

Um what? Everybody knows people buy accounts to use for signature campaigns.

can you lower the price for the sr account?

I can lower the price. Pm me.

Hey! If you have any negative trust / feedback accounts -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=797841.0

0.3 seems high for SM given scarcity of any sig campaigns at the current time

They do have over 300 activity though and not just 240. Seems like a fair price to me, there are a few sig campaigns ( even though most are full ) and a few people have made posts about upcoming sig campaigns as well. :)

Currently available Senior Member for only 0.25 btc.

We will use escrow.

If you can do 0.19 for senior account, I'll do it assuming you're using escrow.

My last price for Senior member is 0.22 btc.

I'm not even sure if you're legit or not, so...

This is not a problem because we will use an escrow for our safety.

From whom ?

And,  btw, why in the first place, instead of just learning things in this forum (by questions/answers) people use to trade anything here? A forum is not meant to be a marketplace, but just a meeting place, nothing else. Also, if everyone could sell/buy accounts, why people still trust any "escrow" presented in here?  This is against any logic, IMO.

You must be joking if you are trying to get 0.03 off the guy instead of just selling it.

What do you mean? Also nobody knows if this guy is selling hacked accounts

I can sign a message using the bitcoin address from unedited bitcoin address posted many months ago.

0.22 btc is already discounted. My profit is too low already.

I just sent you a PM

Do you accept 0.065 on that Full member account?

Yes, I accept. It is ok to me.

Yes, Senior account is available now.

how to ensure that my account is not sending negative feedback when to buy it

Again question. I am intrested to buy it.

The sale is private. Only you and me will know the account is sold. If we use escrow only the three of us inlcuding the escrow will know about it. The accounts are mine. Then who will put negative feedback to it?

You can't 100% guarantee it but most people don't seem to leave negative on accounts bought and sold now unless they look like they might be involved in shady behavior (and that's assuming someone even realises it's a bought account). If you keep the sale between buyer and seller or at the most a trusted escrow you should be fine.

Don't want to buy, but i can sell you a full member account if interest.

Currently I'm not buying bitcointalk accounts.

I sent payment yesterday as agreed, are you going to send the account?

You are buying without escrow? Lol, good luck ;D

If he still delivers you the account, keep hoping that the original owner doesn't come in asking for the account back or the account getting banned due to being farmed.

taking away  the registration date , activity count and post count would be the best way to solve this or at least make it invisible so every member appears equal

no trusted
no senior
no hero etc

take away the incentive to buy trusted accounts to use in scams ......

Why bother scamming for dust? SMH. Scammers are low-life losers.

A quarter of a Bitcoin is not exactly "dust" and especially when the price rises it may be worth a  very substantial amount

If someone has nothing Better to do than make garbage accounts it pays better than some real life jobs although I blame the people buying them as much as the lowlifes selling them

Trolls are low-life losers also.

Like yourself?  :)

This would be counterproductive and have the opposite effect. Scams would go up considerably if we were all 'equal'. Age of account, activity and trust etc are all helpful when dealing or trusting a user but that doesn't mean you should blindly trust everyone who has a certain amount of those things but they are all valuable informations to help you make your mind up about an account. Should long-time and trusted members like tomatocage and vod etc be the same as some random newb? No.

You can call him whatever you want, he still is enjoying your money.

If it makes you feel any better, even if he had given  you the account, the previous owner who sold or got his account hacked could still come back to claim it or you could be banned if the account was a part of a farm.

Let this be a lesson to all account buyers.

I enjoy being honest, sorry. I can't relate to enjoying cheating people.

Account buying is an acceptable practice. Scamming is not. Lets be clear about this.


Yourself, yes.

ALL DEALS SHOULD BE DONE WITH ESCROW
the amount of time anyone has spent making posts has no correlation  to how trustworthy they might be

Dank is probably the greatest example of a complete  degenerate with the status of  "legendary" just because he posts a lot of crap....

How would newcomers tell how trustworthy an escrow was? How long someone has been around is very relevant especially when you factor all the other different parameters you propose to get rid of. Age or number of posts etc doesn't equal trust by itself but when you factor in other things like the trust system it gives you a pretty good idea of who you can and cannot trust. If everyone was on a level playing field from newcomers to long-time trusted Legendary members it would be a nightmare.

To improve security I would suggest that staff or theymos  either do the escrow or get real life id and collateral   from anyone running any kind of business from banking, investment and ponzi schemes.... And give them some commission to make it worthwhile etc

In layman's terms, anyone who's holding the coins of the community for any reason should be held more accountable than what we have now

Its not the  perfect solution but it would certainly cut down on scams where people trust an account with hundreds of posts etc

This would allow the staff to scam and the staff are not (AFAIK) vetted in any way outside of what is publicly available on the forum. It would also effectively be moderating scams which is something the forum does not do (if you moderate a scam then if you miss one then the forum is effectively endorsing a scam and could be held liable). It would be a guaranteed way to get the forum involved in litigation as people would have disputes that the forum would need to resolve and when one party does not agree the other side would almost certainly initiate litigation if the amount in dispute is large enough.

You are asking to be protected from others' actions but it is your responsibility and your responsibility alone to protect yourself from scams and you need to use common sense before you buy, sell or invest in something.

The prices are too high for a full member account. What makes you think that someone will buy that shit?

I'm guessing most staff and even escrows wouldn't be comfortable providing ID, nor do staff moderate on scams anyway. Staff shouldn't be blindly trusted either and I'm surprised you're suggesting this. Staff is just a rank and doesn't necessarily make them anymore trusted than someone else. Providing ID or other documentation isn't a guarantee of anything either as 1) they can easily be faked 2) they would give people a false sense of security - people who's identity has been previously known or have even provided legitimate ID have scammed before and scammers will then take advantage of this system.  


It's not about having done 'hundreds of posts' but you take many factors into consideration including how active you are and your previous trade history and that's why these details are all valuable informations to help you make your mind up about a user. Someone who has been here for years is very unlikely to rip you off for 0.001. A newb who's been here less than a day is though and getting rid of these things would make John K look the same as randomscammer69 to a newcomer.

Senior Member available now .25 btc.

Fuck it then, if we're selling accounts consider mine for sale too then  :)

Same price as the others are charging  lol

Thats very foolish of you. Everybody now knows this account is going to be sold and it will get hegative reputation. You are not going to get any close to the prices.

I don't care, it's an established account with a few hundred posts, if it's worth anything I'll sell it and open a new one

Gives a fuck, who?

I think his point is it won't be worth anything once it is tarnished with negative feedback for being a sold account, so that's why people usually create new accounts to sell and do the deals behind closed doors etc.

Accounts are free to open and use, if anyone is stupid enough to pay for mine, il happily take their money lol

I know account trading is allowed here for a reason, but is it a good idea for you to facilitate such trade? :(

That wasn't the point. The point is nobody will be 'stupid' enough to buy it if it receives negative feedback.


Then what's the problem? I'm merely stating the truth about what usually happens and trying to give this guy advice so he doesn't stupidly ruin his account.

Once you revealed you are selling, you will get very low amount. Nobody is stupid enough to pay full price for this.

Sr member accounts take 8 months to grow from a brand new one, and you can earn money with them(from 0.1 btc month to 0.3 btc/month)

I didn't want to sell it anyway, I don't want to help  facilitate anyone rip someone off but if I was offered decent money for it I wouldn't say no....

I like my username though, so that alone would make me keep it unless I got at least 0.3+ btc etc

I don't believe account selling should be permitted in general but since there's nothing we can do about it...... If you can't beat em, join em!  :)

up for now senior member @ 0.2 btc only.

Up for now. senior member available

up for now.

any chance to lower the price or no?

Please pm me your price.

Pm sent to you

Let's see what you have to offer me

Please let me know when you buy again.

up for now.

Pm me
i wants to buy some Member accounts
Yeah, i will buy all of your Member accounts

And I am Serious  ;)

Any Senior member for sale at 0.1 ?

PM me if available at that price

Thanks

No, my senior member now at 0.32 btc.

Selling full member for 0.1 btc and 0.3 btc for senior member.

Newbie 2011 account for 0.02 btc.

I am looking to buy a few jr. Member accounts?
Do you have jr. Member accounts for sale?
If yes. Then at what price will you sell them?

I will have 10 jr members accounts in 3 days time. How many do you want?

I want to buy all of them.
I can pay you 0.025BTC for them.
0.0025BTC for each account.

PMed about newbies accounts. waiting response from OP

I have them right now. pm sent!

looks like OP ignoring me after payment

thats what you deserve for buying accounts ..... ;D

Why would you not use escrow?

Account details Sent!

Still selling aged newbie accounts.

Registered in 2011 0.02 btc
Registered in 2012 0.015 btc
Registered in 2013 0.01 btc

Price for jr member is 0.0085 btc each.

Aged accounts? Do they have any posts or were they just registered years ago?

Most of the aged accounts don't have posts.

I can pay you 0.004BTC/jr. Member account.
If jr. Account has 56activity then I can pay 0.006BTC/account.

Creating a 1 jr member need at least 2-4 hours of posting and waiting. And 30 to 42 days of waitng.

Yeah agree that it needs 1-2hrs of posting and it just takes 15days to become a jr. Member. You can create thousands of them in 15days. And a jr. Member is a Jr. Member! I really don't care how much time do you spend in creating them! That was my legit price and its fine if you don't want to sell.

You need to wait 6 minutes for every post till your posts reach 15 = 90 minutes already + 30 minutes waiting for activity and delay time to be upgraded + 72 seconds x 15 posts = 18 minutes. minimum total time is 138 minutes or 2.3 hours. You will not get 30 activity in 15 days your account need at least 30 days to reach jr member.

Up for now.

still selling accounts.

1 full member available now.

still have available accounts pm me for prices.

id like to buy Full Member account for 0.08 pm me if you are ok with it

do you have member account ? My friend want to buy an account , let me know your price, and informations about it

Do any of the older accounts have avatars?

accounts are based on posts?

sorry,i mean the rank of an account is based on how much posts they create or reply to?

if you talk about 0.1 for Sr member acc. we can definitly have a talk

Sort of. Activity points is what causes accounts to achieve a higher rank and you get the points by making posts in each activity period. It's quite confusing but merely making posts wont necessarily make you a higher rank unless you have posted in many two week activity periods.

Ranks https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178608.0
Activity periods https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582736.0

definitly confusing. but thank you

Selling full members now at 0.08 btc.

im interested.. pm me :)

Are you the owner of TotalShift? It appears that you both are using the same Bitcoin address (you probably were signed into the wrong account when you posted your loan request.