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For every 100 bad ideas you share, you are bound to make one good one. To me that's worth it.

For every 100 bad threads you start, you are bound to make one good one. Sorry, this wasn't one of the good ones.

First, Matthew steals my Twunker idea, of which has been turned over to the Bitcoin Magazine and I currently have to deal with Adam to get it back, now comes along Boss (a.k.a. Atlas) and steals my post and turns it into a thread title. What is this forum coming to?

Seriously, Boss is correct. I'm still taken aback, though, that Koinaraoke hasn't gotten its legs--yet.

~Bruno~ (not Luca Bruno)

Lock the thread!

btw, do you like reading your own posts and threads or something..?

You really are an attention whore..  Get a hobby, get a new GF, clearly the last(first) one left, thats why your back here vomiting on your keyboard in public..

Let's just say this place is essential for my creative process. Codename: March 11th, remember?

I see, ... didn´t intend to interrupt you.  ;D

Creating so many topics is annoying, though. Might be better to create a topic called "Boss's ideas" and keep your new ideas there for a while before creating topics for them.

This idea is better than all Boss's ideas combined!

That will be for the best, in the future.

I don't think anyone has a problem here with the sharing of ideas and information Atlas.

It's more like going to the doctor's office and telling him he should try what you say because "sometimes you can be right". Why even go to a doctor then? Just do it yourself. Start your own labs and experiment on animals and poor people like we've been doing for thousands of years. When you catch up with the world of medicine and can actually argue a valid point, you might be surprised that people actually ask you questions.

There is an Indian civilian who found a much better way to perform vasectomies that involves a rubber chemical compound injected directly into your nuts. Is it ready for the world? Probably not. Has it passed every safety test in the world? Probably not. Does absolutely everyone believe in it hands-down? Probably not. Does it work? Yes. That's enough to get the ball rolling in his direction.

Your problem is you have nothing to roll the ball with. Gain some weight and you'll make a bigger splash. You've finally begun to work on the first major hurdle-- humility. Mistakes are essential to growth and experience, but without humility, no one will give you the second chance to prove you learned. Good job.

As for some of the ideas that come out of your mouth (like woolong device where you thought every merchant in the world would have a USB port, when it's hard enough to get them to even use the same credit card standards) I'm sure on some planet your way of thinking might work, but your major flaw is that this is earth.


TL;DR: Never be afraid to share ideas. Be afraid of not learning from them.

Obviously

I was open to sharing "bad" ideas when I first came to this forum. But after meeting some of the sociopaths here, I have realized that in this place it's better to just stay quite...

We've seen how you treat people who try to help you with your ideas.

CornedBeefHash, I listen to people very well. To do otherwise is not in my best-interest.

I am just not tactful. I speak my mind and people take it as a lack of respect. I speak my mind and question what is said  -- even when what is said is mostly sound.

My view is that people should be confident enough not to require my reverence. In essence, I like to treat people like gods: Powerful people that can stand on their own two feet without my compliance and conformity.

A person that deserves my respect doesn't need it all.

A true god needs no servants, nobody under him. He stands, sustains and remains content on his own. It is this idol, this vision that I live by. It is this form that I wish for everybody to attain -- in one way or another.

Not related to respect, grasping why things won't work quickly, admitting it won't work that way, then correcting the direction yourself is what builds 'reverence'. I call it humility, but I'm sure engineers call it common sense. Your major problem is that you try to get involved nonchalantly into politics without the slightest bit of sense for what people want. All the chest thumping and anti-establishmentarianism from you does no good if you talk and act the same as a kindergartener with no self control or humility. Now, I bet you might argue that you don't care what people think, but that basically means you have no business in politics.

People who have passion for change, hate the system, and yet don't care what othes want are called self-serving activists. 9-11 was an act of self serving activism.

Matthew, I'll put it simply:

I admire leaders, egoists and independent people.

You like to surround yourself with people who constantly desire approval and guidance.

Our philosophies are vastly different and I accept that. As for describing my political philosophy, your assumptions are so far out-of-reality that I see no point in correcting you. If you're genuinely interested in what I have to say, I'll happily try having a discussion with you.

May I remind you, you are nowhere near a savant when it comes to people and this is based on reality. Your choices you made regarding Goat were far from clean and mature. You are in no place to mentor anyone in this field.

I did. You said I didn't listen to people.

In reality, what you don't approve of is who I am and that's fine.

You admire outcasts. It's a teenager thing.


Actually I'm a challenge junkie who loves discovering people more intelligent and skilled than myself and helping them be more useful while learning how to be more useful myself. Take Vladimir Marchenko for example. He knows way more about information and network security than me. He had to babystep me through using an SSH tunnel. Why would I want to be around someone like him unless it was because I want to know what he knows and do what he does? I'm pretty sure that applies to the majority of people I spend my time with. The reasoning behind not only working with people who know more than me (like when I gave you a chance to prove some of your ideas as well) is because I enjoy discovering and creating opportunities. I'll be dead soon no doubt, and the only thing that gets me out of bed everyday is the chance to do something bigger and better than yesterday. I'm a true and natural engineer. I am a teacher and a leader wherever I go, even when I'm the least qualified-- in which case I found themost qualified and put them in charge.

People like me are essential to companies, schools, and militias. We are ready to die for a dream, but also eager to know why that dream might not be worth dying for. It's called being self aware Atlas. People have made fun of you for not being self aware. I think I am the perfect person with the perfect experiences to be telling you this.

I have no philosophy dictated by books of other people who have actually lived so you'll certainly know more than me when arguing philosophies. Unfortunately, I'm not alive to prove other people wrong-- that's just an entertaining passtime-- I'm alive to be useful. I consider philosophy useless.


Au contrare, I knew my mistakes right when I made them. I learned from them and won't be making them again. I'm therefor first hand experienced in the matter.

Matthew, I've rejected everything society has tried to shove down my throat; to say I am not self-aware is to say I rely on dogma. My philosophy is nearly set on anti-ideology. Look, you won't understand and it's fine.

You're smart. You're kind. You're special.

The fact you spent two paragraphs justifying your self-worth tells me all I need to know about you, Matt. Get some self-confidence. You don't have to prove squat to me.

Your narrowmindedness is a weakness Atlas. Your confidence is a good thing but you didn't even stop to think I enjoy talking? I can argue you to the grave. If that's what you "figured out" about me then good job!

Also, for me personally, I think the biggest argument against my lifestyle is having too much self-confidence. Why are we even talking if everything we say abouf the other is so supposedly glaringly wrong? I call for a rematch later on.

I think most people don't have any problem with sharing bad ideas -- the real question is, do you care about humanity enough to share the good ones?

You don't seem to like me too much, Matthew. That's why the idea of you enjoying a conversation with me never came to mind.

Yes, let's talk later.

Oooo deep.

TWSS

I just realized talking with Atlas is like being the smartest kid in special ed..

At the end of it all, we're still retarded...

Why do we encourage this guy ?

If we stopped responding to his 3 thousand posts/threads a day, he would just go kill himself...

He craves constant attention, and is the biggest troll here.. Why fuel it ?

PS

You dont mind sharing bad ideas, because you have NO idea what a good idea is, until you ask everyone..

And guess what.. you still dont have any good ideas, your lazy..
Go figure out with your own sweat and tears what it takes to make a good idea happen.

Teflone, my friend, you have offered nothing but pure emotion when it comes to the quips you make about me. I expect more from you.

...and remember, we're all good friends here. There's no need to be combative.

Ahh I wonder who you are referring to...

I will tell you this much.

Part of the reason why it's hard to share ideas in this forum and then in return TAKE ADVICE, is because it's hard to distinguish who's here to be serious, and who's simply here to troll.

I can say that my conversations in more closed Bitcoin communities/circles, are alot more productive than my exchanges here. This place has become a "for fun" place for me, and I have stopped taking it seriously aside from a public point of communication.  

If BTC's were in the triple digits the trolls would turn into millionaires/merchants/scammers/.

Either way we would finally have an investment forum  :D.

Right now (aside from a few people), no one cares..

Emotion, something of which you clearly lack..  let me talk to you in a language you understand,

Metaphysical zerosum culture government perception, perception pedantry nihilism perception zerosum zerosum metaphysical government.




Your emotionless constant posts are annoying, the meds dissagree with you child...

Teflone, if I bribed you 1 BTC, would you consider removing the above sentence from your post?

Really? Stop trying to judge who is being serious or trolling, and instead judge the posts themselves. You can figure out which advice to follow on your own.

Blasphemy!

Now time to take my meds, was it 2 pills before lunch with food, or 4 pills after lunch, with booze ? The value of these pills is metaphysical..

ROFLMAO!

Just as long as it isn't Valium + Xanax + Alcohol, since that's what killed Whitney Houston.

I thought it was Bobby Brown..   (and crack)  ?

Nancy Grace said that somebody drown her. Pushed her under the water in the garden tub during a garden party.

Oh wow.. just googled that, what a crazy thing to speculate on...  Never heard that..

+1

Even trolling is sometimes called by another name: brainstorming  ;D

The crazy thing about that, teflone, is that she came up with that and was on the air live while the body was still wet and in the hotel room. Some say that Nancy's going off the deep end. I wonder if she's Boss's aunt.

hahahhaa, ya..  I hear ya..  

Its amazing what people say in front of a public audience!  

Just like Atlas, blows my mind, so crazy it is, that you must stop and wonder the underlying motives.. then you think, maybes theres not.. then the awe sets in..  And you just cant understand how it could be real, someone like that?  

If that makes any sense.. lol

It's called Life and the Hard Knocks Thereof. Get used to it.

I was more speaking of Atlas..

Hard knocks and life, he knows nothing about...

Unfortunately...

Not sure if you're an authority on that...  :P  (i.e. how can you be sure enough to make a claim like that?)

I was referring to Jessy Kang.

And the forum is what you make of it.  If you spend your time deciding who is trolling and who isn't instead of evaluating the ideas at face value and accepting or dismissing them based on their merits, then yeah you aren't gonna get much out of it.

HAHAHAHAHA. ;D Let me help too.

Value incentive desire emotion human truth sound concept anyways herp derp assburgers

Atlas, no one cares about ideas. Ideas are a dime a dozen- "Idea-guys" are even cheaper. Results are what people care about. You can have all the ideas in the world, but no one will give a shit until you actually build on an idea and create something. I have an idea that will revitalize the economic health of my home city. Does anyone care? No. Would people care if I did something to realize it? Yep. Even if the project fails in the end, the effort is better spent trying and failing than sitting at a computer regurgitating every thought that goes through your head.

No one likes failure. It sucks, a lot. But you know what sucks more? Sitting there at the end of the day, having accomplished nothing. Failure is preferable to inaction, which is what you are doing. You have talents. But you squander them, wasting your time here on this website and others instead of making use of them.

Hell, why do I even bother? You probably stopped reading half-way through the first sentence so you can try to shout over me.

I actually haven't heard a lot of good ideas, even on this forum. Ideas may be a dime a dozen, but good ones, even if not followed through on, are still valuable, since someone else may take them up. I've certainly come across a lot of things I wouldn't even have thought of on my own, and am glad others were nice enough to toss them out. Also, Bitcoin, Namecoin, DIANNA, etc are all just a process of people throwing out ideas.

I am trying to remember when I have ever shouted over anyone. Heck, I can't even remember the last time I raised my voice.

Maybe when my dog marked the table? It just goes to show how much you guys know about me. For all I know, you might be imagining a Hispanic version of Bill O'Reilly.

Now, that's what you call entertainment.

This one proves my post Rassah.. Im quite sure Atlas does not know hard knocks, or he would have better answer than his dog pissing on your coffee table..  :)

Teflone, I know nothing. I am a stupid kid. Do you feel better now?

Teflone is simply a case of low self-esteem. If he was what he espoused, he would have nothing or very little to say to me.

The sad fact is his happiness is dependent on the degradation of my character. Such is the case for many figures on this forum and beyond.

Now, as for the deeper reasons and story behind this, I rather leave that for another day. I see no benefit that can come from discussing them now.

Back and forth abandoned for lack of interest!



I think you mean to say it gives him joy. I doubt anyone's happiness is dependent on you in any shape or form. You're not that important.

Folks, who've read my posts, can easily put me in this category, albeit I'm not on medication. Wait, what? I write my shit without the use of drugs.

Nevermind!

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You give these people way more value than they are actually worth by replying to them, or to any replies of this nature. Just ignore their trolling and let your actions and words speak for themselves, as opposed to your excuses and defenses. If they say crap, you ignore them, and do things to prove them otherwise, only they will look stupid.

Regarding your OP, from someone who has had hundreds of bad ideas, and spent lot of time brainstorming to turn them into good ones, the only answer that anyone should have had was "I agree."

I respectfully disagree, Rassah. I do value these people. I don't mind what they say to me. In fact, I just feel I am having a conversation with its usual benefits: I hope they could have something to gain from my statements and vice-versa.

This requires little effort on my part. Now, if I couldn't type as fast, I probably wouldn't reply.

That's the problem; by their own statements they are making it perfectly clear that they don't wish to gain anything from you at all. Why give them anything if they don't value and don't want it? In the end all you're doing is making yourself look defensive for no reason.

Hm, well, what you say might be certain. Maybe my efforts are in vain but I have to say I do enjoy writing in any case.

I don't mind looking defensive. I am not hurting anybody. I still think its clear that I don't depend on any result in these affairs.

Anyways, I'll listen to you. I have work to do.

Not saying you should stop writing. I enjoy your posts and the debates they spark. Just saying ignore the trolls whose only contributions are personal attacks on you.

That's good advice, Rassah.

Atlas, I actually dont think you're stupid, I think you're lazy..

If you put half the amount of effort into ANYTHING that you put into preaching your warp immature thoughts here, you would be a regular success.  You must take a step back, and realize how ridiculous you look.

Its very clear to all of us, you need constant attention, and want everyone to validate your ideals, your ideas, and also to point out what "worth" it has without doing ANY of the work.. You're clearly the type that follows through with nothing, you have a million trivial things on the go, yet all are unfinished..    

You treat us all as your personal sounding board, yet you offer no value after the fact..  

You are an open book to most, if not all people here, your so called values are that of a person outside the establishment that we are all forced to be in, its clear you have not entered the establishment yet, I would simply say the proof of this is, as a young man, you have not held a simple menial job to better yourself. (On that note, Im sure you want nothing to do with the establishment, yet the fact remains, we are ALL forced to live in it)

We all have had to do it at some point..  

Its amazing how much people grow up, when they get a grasp at hard work and sweat, and the satisfaction of finishing a job.  

You're not in a position to "value" anything until then..   The old, saying, walk a mile in my shoes comes to mind..

You reek of a spoiled little child that hasnt had to work for anything, and has had everything catered to them on a silver platter the way you talk, whether you are or not.

We are all trying to wake you the fuck up..   Think about it..   This is one long intervention..

As long as they are blue or red ... or was it the otherway round?

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