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Title: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: Zywiec on June 26, 2014, 09:59:16 AM
Dear users,

Unfortunately I would like to alarm that GraniteCoin[GRN] should be delisted from @bitcointalk. Some infringment was recorded. The issue was made around 10000 block. This block was marked as special rewarded one! It was great oppurtunity to gain additional coins. You can check more information about specifications here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=621544.0

Unfortunately some unusual things happened. Dev team has decided to switch  noods off, as a result he took over block 10000. The miners couldn't mine this block.

Official thread is self-moderated by GraniteDev, all post from injured party are deleted.  If everything is fine, why he is deleting without any explenation. Is there something to hide ?

Me and other miners are shocked. Can't belive what happened. All I want is to warm you and another institution/miners/community of cryptoworld. Beware !
Also in order that justice be done. Please cancel this suspicious coin from your list.

Please check evidence, it's obvious that we have been scammed
http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2mmbz86&s=8#.U6vtsfl_uLY (http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2mmbz86&s=8#.U6vtsfl_uLY)
http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zgqjr4&s=8#.U6vuCPl_uLY (http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zgqjr4&s=8#.U6vuCPl_uLY)
http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=htz2fo&s=8#.U6vuQvl_uLY (http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=htz2fo&s=8#.U6vuQvl_uLY)
http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=333wvvm&s=8#.U6vuWvl_uLY (http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=333wvvm&s=8#.U6vuWvl_uLY)
http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vwz5lj&s=8#.U6vuefl_uLY (http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vwz5lj&s=8#.U6vuefl_uLY)
http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=9k2d4x&s=8#.U6vujPl_uLY (http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=9k2d4x&s=8#.U6vujPl_uLY)
http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=mjyaza&s=8#.U6vup_l_uLY (http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=mjyaza&s=8#.U6vup_l_uLY)


Thank you.


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: GraniteCoin on June 26, 2014, 10:06:34 AM
This guy wanted me to accept his amateur marketing offer. He had been sending me several pm's and I already informed him about my disinterest. Then he threatens FUD. We had bonus blocks multiple times before and never had any issue. His allegations are baseless and stupid. Same guy coming in multiple ids and spreading FUD. Just Ignore him.


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: maniac83 on June 26, 2014, 10:09:57 AM
This guy wanted me to accept his amateur marketing offer. He had been sending me several pm's and I informed him about my disinterest. Then he threatens FUD. We had bonus blocks multiple times before and never had any issue. His allegations are baseless and stupid.

If they are so baseless and stupid, why u have deleted the 10000 block related posts from your granite topic?

This is what dev has deleted from the official granite topic:

Quote
I have some mixed feelings regarding 10000 block ...

There was a large reward for this block (I believe it was 100k),
and suddenly (around 9995 block) something strange had happened.
Neither of the pools could hit the blocks, and the hashrate was strangely low (looked like some of the pools were disconnected from the network).

I even don't know where the block was hit (which pool).
The strangest thing is, that someone (dev perhaps?!) was restarting the core nodes at 9995 block (why?!) ?!

I believe that dev should provide some explanation regarding this issue!

Be aware ,

Dev Team has made heavy infingment around 10000 block. As you know this block count 100000GRN. Nobody couldn't mine it directly, just Dev Team - They have switched  noods off.

The issue with fully evidence was reported to @bitcointalk and @exchange(Bittrex) @pools


Heh, this is what I was talking about..


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: maniac83 on June 26, 2014, 10:14:57 AM
And next examples of dev ignorance and unsuccessful attempts to remove traces of his infringment

Quote from: Bitcoin Forum
A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave.

You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations.

Quote
dev why U steal my money ?
Where is 10.000 block ?

Are you mental? Current block is 12K. Were you sleeping during the 10000 block?
where is 10.000 block witch reward 1000x block ??

how would I know where it is? Go and look up in the block explorer.
U removed the posts where the information was

I have my block explorer, who does not hide data

Hi pawart, ur right, dev has removed my (and few others) posts where we were sharing doubts regarding the 10000 block.


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: Q_R_V on June 26, 2014, 10:16:13 AM
I noticed the same thing, now i know that i wasn't alone.
Can someone explain what happened?


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: Tompson on June 26, 2014, 10:25:20 AM
Everything indicates that the dev stole 10,000 bonus block. He turned off the nods and no one could get it! Granite dev is plain cheater! Stay away and be careful!

http://i62.tinypic.com/2vmd0lw.jpg


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: maniac83 on June 26, 2014, 10:27:09 AM
I noticed the same thing, now i know that i wasn't alone.
Can someone explain what happened?

It looks like GRN dev is a cheater, he has unfairly grabbed the bonus block for himself.

All community is lossy.

He does not want to answer on the accusation, just ignores it!


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: bobby6killers on June 26, 2014, 10:41:22 AM
Turning off the seed nodes would not make any difference. the Nodes only exist for when new clients that come online and want to connect to the block chain. Once then have connected they pick up all the peer info for many other wallets on the network, then making the official seed nodes nodes not necessary. That is the point of why these wallets work as one great big web of connectivity.

There is no way that 1 person can take over a single block unless they pumped in 100s times more time hashing power just before that super block. and even then they have to be very lucky!

Also don't forget blocks can get orphaned too!

Here is the code that controls the bonus block, just in case you want to know what block number they actually fall on.


Code:

    else if (nHeight == 1500) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 5000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 10000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 20000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 40000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 60000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 80000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 100000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 150000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 262799) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }

    // Subsidy is cut in half every xxxx blocks
    nSubsidy >>= (nHeight / 262800);

    return nSubsidy + nFees;
}



Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: kartoon on June 26, 2014, 11:04:44 AM
Yes it would. Check attached pics - getpeerinfo. This coin is a scam!


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: Jejjo on June 26, 2014, 11:16:05 AM
I agree

GRN = scam !



Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: maniac83 on June 26, 2014, 11:16:43 AM
Turning off the seed nodes would not make any difference. the Nodes only exist for when new clients that come online and want to connect to the block chain. Once then have connected they pick up all the peer info for many other wallets on the network, then making the official seed nodes nodes not necessary. That is the point of why these wallets work as one great big web of connectivity.

There is no way that 1 person can take over a single block unless they pumped in 100s times more time hashing power just before that super block. and even then they have to be very lucky!

Also don't forget blocks can get orphaned too!

Here is the code that controls the bonus block, just in case you want to know what block number they actually fall on.


Code:

    else if (nHeight == 1500) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 5000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 10000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 20000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 40000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 60000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 80000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 100000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 150000) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }
    else if (nHeight == 262799) //bonus block reward nHeight
    {
        int64 nSubsidy = 100000 * COIN;
        return nSubsidy + nFees;
    }

    // Subsidy is cut in half every xxxx blocks
    nSubsidy >>= (nHeight / 262800);

    return nSubsidy + nFees;
}



So how would you explain the situation, when one pool with large hash, which takes all of the blocks from 9980 to 9999 and from 10001 to 10006 and further was not able to get this bonus block ?

The hash power from this pool suddenly vaporize from network hashrate !?

Also a lot of peers were restarted at 9995 block, the same block which none of the pools couldn't confirmed to get for a few minutes ?
Too many coincidences ?!

Also the arrogance of dev, shows he has something to hide!


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: radez99 on June 26, 2014, 11:23:04 AM
This guy wanted me to accept his amateur marketing offer. He had been sending me several pm's and I already informed him about my disinterest. Then he threatens FUD. We had bonus blocks multiple times before and never had any issue. His allegations are baseless and stupid. Same guy coming in multiple ids and spreading FUD. Just Ignore him.

Smart answer, but YOU LIE. If someone is interested what REALLY happened please take a look on pictures in first post. That is great evidence !

That is sad but true....



Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: radez99 on June 26, 2014, 11:29:02 AM
Dear users,

Unfortunately I would like to alarm that GraniteCoin[GRN] should be delisted from @bitcointalk. Some infringment was recorded. The issue was made around 10000 block. This block was marked as special rewarded one! It was great oppurtunity to gain additional coins. You can check more information about specifications here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=621544.0

Unfortunately some unusual things happened. Dev team has decided to switch  noods off, as a result he took over block 10000. The miners couldn't mine this block.

Official thread is self-moderated by GraniteDev, all post from injured party are deleted.  If everything is fine, why he is deleting without any explenation. Is there something to hide ?

Me and other miners are shocked. Can't belive what happened. All I want is to warm you and another institution/miners/community of cryptoworld. Beware !
Also in order that justice be done. Please cancel this suspicious coin from your list.

Please check evidence, it's obvious that we have been scammed
http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2mmbz86&s=8#.U6vtsfl_uLY (http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2mmbz86&s=8#.U6vtsfl_uLY)
http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zgqjr4&s=8#.U6vuCPl_uLY (http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zgqjr4&s=8#.U6vuCPl_uLY)
http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=htz2fo&s=8#.U6vuQvl_uLY (http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=htz2fo&s=8#.U6vuQvl_uLY)
http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=333wvvm&s=8#.U6vuWvl_uLY (http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=333wvvm&s=8#.U6vuWvl_uLY)
http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vwz5lj&s=8#.U6vuefl_uLY (http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2vwz5lj&s=8#.U6vuefl_uLY)
http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=9k2d4x&s=8#.U6vujPl_uLY (http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=9k2d4x&s=8#.U6vujPl_uLY)
http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=mjyaza&s=8#.U6vup_l_uLY (http://pl.tinypic.com/view.php?pic=mjyaza&s=8#.U6vup_l_uLY)


Thank you.


If u are familiar with any kind of cryptomining u should know that turning off nodes would'nt change anything in such situation. u are kind of scammer that want to spread fud about granite just to buy cheap or make fake proof of sth.

Take a look at first picture and give me answer - why block 10k is not on the list ??? I dont have to be crypto expert to find out that it is too big coincidence...


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: platorin on June 26, 2014, 11:36:00 AM
Typical. I remember a similar issue with CleanWaterCoin.


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: majkel_94 on June 26, 2014, 01:20:26 PM
We had bonus blocks multiple times before and never had any issue.
Because you earned them all :D It's simple as fuck!!!

Large increase of mining hasharate, 99% of net hashrate (2 GHs), and suddenly the bonus block didn't go to any big pool? Everyone know that 100k bonus is in dev wallet ;)


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: zonkul on June 26, 2014, 02:44:40 PM
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/51687132.jpg

Bad luck GranitecoinDev..


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: __kot__ on June 26, 2014, 04:13:05 PM
GraniteCoin -> consider GRN DEAD.

... and learn something from this - never cheat on the community


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: bobby6killers on June 26, 2014, 04:22:38 PM
Come on guys grow up, stop trying to destroy a coin with assumptions!!

Firstly no i am not the granite developer, but i have been in crypto land for a very long time. Trust me if i posted using my developer account the amount of FUD heading your way would not be worth it!

Simply running getpeerinfo does not prove the granite developer stopped the nodes, and i say it again ,it would not matter if he had done so...

In the source  code in 'net.cpp' there is a single seed node address

Code:
// DNS seeds
// Each pair gives a source name and a seed name.
// The first name is used as information source for addrman.
// The second name should resolve to a list of seed addresses.
static const char *strMainNetDNSSeed[][2] = {
    {"seednode1.granitecoin.com", "seednode1.granitecoin.com"},
    {NULL, NULL}

};

- Do a DNS lookup against seednode1.granitecoin.com = 23.97.134.59

- In your wallet run 'getpeerinfo' and look for that address only, since that is the only official seed node (According to the source code) make a note of the start height.

- Now delete your block chain data. if you know what I'm talking about you will know how to do this!

- Restart your wallet and you will see the start height of all the peers is actually much higher that when you last looked, my wallet currently shows block 12007 and so does the peer info and block explorer. This is because this type of coin coding is self aware of checkpoints and will pass that info around all the peers.

http://s25.postimg.org/dyyry3g6j/Screen_Shot_2014_06_26_at_13_16_45.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/dyyry3g6j/)

If you need any more proof than this, maybe ask the dev to supply a screen shot of the seednode wallet start time, this will prove beyond doubt if it has been restarted recently



Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: __kot__ on June 26, 2014, 04:30:53 PM
https://i.imgflip.com/9v09z.jpg (https://imgflip.com/i/9v09z)via Imgflip Meme Maker (https://imgflip.com/memegenerator)


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: devega on June 26, 2014, 04:37:51 PM
GRN dev, if u feel innocent, why did you delete many early negative posts, including mine? DEAD SCAM COIN


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: qbitbit on June 26, 2014, 05:59:34 PM
This guy wanted me to accept his amateur marketing offer. He had been sending me several pm's and I already informed him about my disinterest. Then he threatens FUD. We had bonus blocks multiple times before and never had any issue. His allegations are baseless and stupid. Same guy coming in multiple ids and spreading FUD. Just Ignore him.


It is fuckin' unfair to steal someones money,
when you are in deal with him.

So it is clear, that DEV is just an asshole.


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: devega on June 26, 2014, 06:14:58 PM
I think the most of (former) community think the same. Just after the scam of 10k block, the network power fall from 2 th into 150 mhash, and the price from 2000 sat into 150 sat. DEAD COIN.


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: qbitbit on June 26, 2014, 06:30:43 PM
Right, this coin looks to be dead.
But it is highly probable, that this dude will repeat such cheat
with some next coin.


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: GraniteCoin on June 26, 2014, 07:06:01 PM
This is the screen shot of the current state of seed. This proves beyond doubt that it has not been restarted since the launch of GRN (May 22nd).

http://i60.tinypic.com/v4qstf.png



Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: zonkul on June 26, 2014, 08:31:20 PM
Shopped  ;) ..

Live link or it did'nt happen.


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: jasemoney on June 26, 2014, 08:45:33 PM
cough* hack* *cough *start your own nodes *cough.... oh sorry, excuse me... something happened. not sure what...


Title: Re: [GRN] GraniteCoin heavy infringment!!!Be aware
Post by: baby222 on July 17, 2014, 04:31:16 PM
no , another dead coin  :o