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You can download the birth certificate in all it's glory from http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf (http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf)

If you've got illustrator, open the pdf and view the layers.

Amazing.

Who give a damn about a politician's birth certificate?

I don't know what's so "amazing" about it. Obama's birth certificate has been online since 2008 if not earlier: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html)

I don't really care, I just think that it's so bad I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

It is a certified copy from my understanding, not the original-
Who gives a damn is a good question but apparently some give damn enough for millions spent on lawyers over this issue throughout the years.
Why some give a damn is another question.

What difference does it make? People who want to believe it's a fake will continue to believe it's a fake, or they will come up with some other conspiracy theory.

That's why birth certificates should be stored in a block chain. If not anything else, at least this would make the date of birth unforgeable. 

I think it is fake. If you look at the PDF it's clearly been doctored. They didn't even bother to flatten the image, the layers can be extracted easily. It's a terrible forgery. Doesn't make any difference though. I just posted it because I think it's funny.

Nope, the "layering" can be an automatic process.
http://www.nkyvoice.com/

But who cares, where he's born doesn't make any difference.

Yes I've looked into it a bit more and yes there is intelligent scanning that separates all these elements. It still looks terrible though. It proves absolutely nothing. I mean, could you and I get a passport using that standard of proof?

I like what Rand Paul had to say about one of the people involved in this: "I've come to New Hampshire today because I'm very concerned. I want to see the original long-form certificate of D****d T***p's Republican registration." (I edited his name out because he doesn't deserve anymore attention).

It doesn't actually matter whether this document "proves anything" or not, because there is no standard of proof sufficient to convince someone who has made up his mind not to be convinced.

I mean people are asking whether it has a raised seal. If no one says it has a raised seal will that be good enough? No, because I haven't felt a raised seal. Is the president supposed to mail everyone in the country a sealed copy of his birth certificate?

And hey, let's just imagine he does. Does anyone seriously believe that the birther movement will collapse? Because the head of state was able to produce a document with a raised seal? Within a hour someone will say the serial number is out of order or the background pattern seems a bit imperfect, and this is obviously just another forgery.

Because there are only two options: either the certificate is real and Obama is a citizen, or an American woman, eight months pregnant, suddenly travelled to Kenya secretly, had her baby there, and then covered this up and obtained forged papers that she could just as easily have gotten legitimately. And the first option just strains credulity too much.

I thought Bitcoiners were better than this charade. I really did. :/

I think Bitcoiners ARE being better than this charade.

Any antipathy towards Obama is due to his actions, not his circumstances of birth.

It's encouraging to see there's some sanity left somewhere. Donald Duck is just riding the wave attempting to gain popularity so he can run for President. And the fucker had the audacity to say Ron Paul is unelectable.

Yeah, I was at CPAC when he said that. He should've had the sense not to say there wasn't anyone principled running ESPECIALLY considering there were a bunch of people in there ready to see the next speaker (Rand Paul).

Any document can be falsified.

To be fair, Donald Trump would make a decent President... how many other candidates have the experience with running bankrupt enterprises that he does? :D

That's an interested idea.  At the minimum, hospitals should be using some type of public-key encryption with a signature so that birth dates and names can be independently verified and audited.

Awesome.  :)

Did 'kenya' even exist as a name in 1961 ? At the time it was the british east africa protectorate.

The hospital on that certificate ? In 1961 it was actually called something else and didnt become the one named in the certificate untill 1978 when it merged.




Things that make you go hmm.
 :)

They only make you go "hmm" if you don't bother to check the facts.

Noagendamarket, I just debunked this in another thread.  If you actually read the wikipedia article that everyone is copying and pasting to support  this claim you'll find it actually contradicts the claim.  That's irony.  According to the article, the hospital was named "Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital" in 1931 and was renamed in 1971.  The merger began in 1976.  The birth certificate lists the name as "Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital", and of course, has the year 1961.  But people can't even be bothered to read a wikipedia article when they want so bad to believe something is or isn't true.

Also, I've seen no proof that Kenya wasn't called "Kenya" before 1964 when it was official recognized by Britain as the "Republic of Kenya".

When you turn off the layer and almost all the typed text disappears but the signatures don't is pretty telling. The OCR didn't recognize the handwriting. End of story. ::)

This is STILL going on?!

Anyone who doubts it's a (horribly done) forgery check out these short videos and PDF. The proof is abundant.

Obama Birth Certificate Faked In Adobe Illustrator - Official Proof 1 ( Layers )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s9StxsFllY

Official Proof 2 ( Optimizing )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT0Tpf1IhxA

Official Proof 3 ( Short Form )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eJx7jsPV44

Official Proof 4 ( OCR / Optimizing )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW_PWzhgvDs

Final report with in-depth analysis from Adobe expert
http://www.wnd.com/files/Obama_LFBC_Report_final_draft.pdf

Obama's certificate also has kerning, something no type-writer in '61 could have done. You won't find it on the Nordyke twins certificates (born 1 day after Obama in the same hospital Obama had put on his "certficiate.")

The best part is the folks @ WND are putting together a criminal case against Obama while other cases are making their way up to the Supreme Court. It doesn't matter where he was born now, he is minimally guilty of uttering forgery. I hope he is held up in court so he can't campaign, then is impeached before the election, the dems struggle to get a candidate in, then Ron Paul takes the cake :-D

TL:DR Summary
Use common sense and zoom. See yourself.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf

PS my favorite part...

The registrar who signed his certificate... U K L Lee... Ukelele :-) The C was edited to be a K, funny guy.

Only idiots or sellouts will defend that this is a legit document.  The most IMPORTANT aspect of this fake document being released which has never happened before is that Obama has come out HIMSELF and said this is my real Birth Certificate.  He has attached himself to this FAKE DOCUMENT with his own words.  Let me repeat.  He has come out and said this is my real Birth Certificate and it has been proven to be a fake 10 ways to Sunday.  This makes him a LIAR(as if we all didn't know he was before).  Caught Red Handed Lying to America on the Status of Legal Documentation of his birth.

IMPEACHEABLE OFFENCE.

Additionally, as I said YOU ARE AN IDIOT OR A SELLOUT TO YOUR COUNTRY IF YOU DEFEND THIS AS A LEGIT DOCUMENT.

I say that with all due hostility to those idiots and sellouts out there.

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Now that it is released, if you grab it first, you can become the new Obama.

 :D

does it matter where he was born? Even without the birth certificate he would still be the presiden tof the united states. We should be more inclusive and give everyone the chance to hold office if they so choose