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Title: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: Malin Keshar on June 30, 2014, 01:59:33 AM
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/06/isil-declares-new-islamic-caliphate-201462917326669749.html
 (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/06/isil-declares-new-islamic-caliphate-201462917326669749.html)

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The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), the armed group fighting governments in Iraq and Syria, has announced the establishment of a "caliphate" straddling the two countries.

In an audio recording distributed online on Sunday, the ISIL declared its chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as "the caliph" and "leader for Muslims everywhere".

Baghdadi is believed to be the leader of ISIL, which announced that it is now called "The Islamic State".



Meanwhile:


USA planning to spend 500 millions to help Syrians rebels. Surely this will strength ISIL, and many of the training or equipment will be used against USA and their allies, specially in Iraqui.

Jihadist levant against Bashar Al-Assad: he's evil and we need to take don his government, jihadist Levant against Iraqi: they are a sovereign state and must deal alone with their problems, only after much pressure they send  insignificant help for them.

Occident keeps sending weapons to Syrians rebels, when anyone with two brains cells is ware many of them will end in the hands of enemies of the Occident.

USA, among other things, used Saddam Hussein - Al Qaeda bounds to justify Iraqi's invasion, now Al Qaeda is orders of magnitude stronger than when Saddam had the power.


There are some mad theories about people inside the USA working hard to crush the USA's world dominance, and about Obama being more loyal to the Muslin Brotherhood than to USA.

Why they don't seems so mad when we see the facts?





Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: TaunSew on June 30, 2014, 02:09:49 AM
We would have to wait and see.  All I have seen so far are clips of rebels with Kalashnikovs and white Toyotas.   I don't see how their force can really stand up to anyone in a conventional war or a total war.  A division of Poles or Czechs could stop these guys quickly, never mind a more powerful military like the US marines.



Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: Charlie Prime on June 30, 2014, 12:34:35 PM
Why they don't seems so mad when we see the facts?

Because Americans are subjected to relentless indoctrination and media programming designed to convince them they are in a Holy War against an existential enemy.

This program soaks every nook and cranny of their lives, in public schools, preachers' sermons, NASCAR advertisements, politicians' speeches, NPR, PBS, 4th of July celebrations, Thanksgiving Dinner, ...everything.


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: sana8410 on June 30, 2014, 01:47:10 PM
As usual the Middle East is a complete messed up. Here's an idea -- let them fix it. If they want to be an Islamic State, let 'em. Let's stay out of that hell hole and let them rot in their own madness.


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: DodoB on June 30, 2014, 01:49:33 PM
As usual the Middle East is a complete messed up. Here's an idea -- let them fix it. If they want to be an Islamic State, let 'em. Let's stay out of that hell hole and let them rot in their own madness.

Last time the Muslims had a caliphate in the middle east they used it to invade Europe.


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: zolace on June 30, 2014, 02:34:13 PM
STILL...Can't believe the USA couldn't get at least one (1) USAF AC-130 U Spooky II gunship – with their General Dynamics 25 mm GAU-12/U Equalizer, 5-barreled Gatling cannon; 40 mm L/60 Bofors cannon, and M102 howitzer - up in the air over Iraq to deal with those convoys of wide open ISIS white pick-up trucks traveling along desert roadways.

NOW THAT...Would have been the right thing to do.


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: Balthazar on June 30, 2014, 02:36:42 PM
No surprise here. Wall Street needs to destabilize europe. There is no success in ukraine for now, so they've funded this "caliphate".


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: Rigon on June 30, 2014, 03:01:27 PM
Just wondering how one hateful muslim sect tells itself from another one.....do the Sunnis stone women with their left hand as opposed to the Shiites who stone with the right hand? Show me something positive about Islam, show me how they actually can help people and I might believe in their cause. But right now, to all the world and the people they are conquering, they are just bloodthirsty anarchists bent on destruction and murder and oppression. Islam is a "religion" of hate and destruction.


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: Balthazar on June 30, 2014, 03:08:36 PM
Islam is not a religion, it's ideological platform. It was good for middle ages in comparison with european political systems, but now it's obsolete.


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: Chef Ramsay on June 30, 2014, 05:37:51 PM
I doubt the Sunnis of the world will all unite via word from this Caliphate. Perhaps, it may challenge certain al qaeda elements to take calls from them. I say let Iran and/or the Saudis field this one and we stay home. The last thing that will be beneficial is for an alleged Christian western nation solving a dispute in the Muslim world. But wait, we already tried that and it blew up in our faces. So, let's do it again right, Cheney?!!


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: RodeoX on June 30, 2014, 06:08:11 PM
Islam is not a religion, it's ideological platform. It was good for middle ages in comparison with european political systems, but now it's obsolete.
I'm not sure about obsolete. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in the world. Even the idea of Islamic theocracy is growing. I see no such trends in other religions.

Anyway I guess there is now no such thing as isil/isis. They are re-branded as "The Islamic State".


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: googie4 on June 30, 2014, 07:18:21 PM
I thought it was ISIS.


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: noviapriani on July 01, 2014, 09:33:40 AM
Perhaps they'll call it ObamaBlad.

On a lighter note:

Things sure are different in the Middle East.

THey have a new holiday there that they are calling, "KaBoom." If you call their suicide hotline, you get the following response:

"Islamic Suicide Hotline, What size vest do you wear?"

The only thing left for Obama to do is to decide if he is Shite or Sunni!


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: umair127 on July 01, 2014, 09:39:05 AM
Once again the incompetent president OBAMA has cause these terrorist to form this state which will be 100 times worst than any other terrorist group. Thank you president OBAMA.!!!!


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: DrG on July 01, 2014, 10:45:28 AM
Once again the incompetent president OBAMA has cause these terrorist to form this state which will be 100 times worst than any other terrorist group. Thank you president OBAMA.!!!!

You can't expect to see any leadership from that fool.  He can't even control his own cabinet.  Kathleen Sebelius would have to bludgeon kids with a hammer before he thinks of firing her.

Al Maliki is getting just what he asked for.  Last year he pretty much said "I got this".

What's he's going to get is a round to the noggin.


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: Charlie Prime on July 01, 2014, 12:24:26 PM
Once again the incompetent president OBAMA

Are you really unaware of that fact that U.S. President don't make policy?


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 01, 2014, 12:44:03 PM
Here comes the grand plans for a Eurasian Islamic Caliphate (We can also call this a resurrection of the Ottoman Empire).

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/06/30/article-2674736-1F46221200000578-100_634x381.jpg

The Croats and Romanians, who are pro-NATO should be really excited about this.  ;D


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: niothor on July 01, 2014, 12:46:44 PM
Here comes the grand plans for a Eurasian Islamic Caliphate (We can also call this a resurrection of the Ottoman Empire).



The Croats and Romanians, who are pro-NATO should be really excited about this.  ;D

Some low life asian living in his hut in the middle of the ocean and thinking about himself as the keeper of all the wisdom and truth in the world should really shut up.

Has Putin cut your daily budget for posting from 80 to 10 posts per day :))))))))))) ?


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 01, 2014, 02:13:15 PM
Has Putin cut your daily budget for posting from 80 to 10 posts per day :))))))))))) ?

Seems like Putin cut your daily budget as well. Earlier you averaged 250 posts / week. This week, you have posted less than 10 posts.


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: niothor on July 01, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Has Putin cut your daily budget for posting from 80 to 10 posts per day :))))))))))) ?

Seems like Putin cut your daily budget as well. Earlier you averaged 250 posts / week. This week, you have posted less than 10 posts.

I have done roughly 400 posts/month mr wikipedia rt copy paste.
Unlike you who have been doing constantly 80 day while you were paid for it.

Also if you look back at my posts about 50% of them are triggered by your errors and your stupid assumptions.
Without the idiot claiming he knows everything spamming the board of course I have less material.



And here's the Devil himself, once you mention him :P

Is he paid per post? The last time I heard, he was getting paid according to the total time logged in. Looking at his artillery barrage, I have a feeling that he will be more useful in the real battle.  ;D

Seems like your artillery barrage is suffering :)))).



Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: RodeoX on July 01, 2014, 03:01:13 PM
Once again the incompetent president OBAMA has cause these terrorist to form this state which will be 100 times worst than any other terrorist group. Thank you president OBAMA.!!!!
Oh please. Your kidding, right?


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 01, 2014, 03:19:52 PM
I have done roughly 400 posts/month mr wikipedia rt copy paste.
Unlike you who have been doing constantly 80 day while you were paid for it.

Your statistics tell otherwise.

From April 17 to May 17 (Prime Dice payment period), you had posted 605 posts. And you received payment from Primedice for every single post. So, what makes me any different from you?

You posted a Bitcointalk record of 201 posts on May 17th, 2014.

(A record which remains unbeaten by anyone until now. 201 posts in 24 hours, seriously?)

Most of them extremely short posts such as these:

Again with the pos hype?

Abandoned project and seemingly nobody really interested in it. I doubt there will be a revival on this one.

Again, you posted another 110 posts in 16th May, 2014.

Did you had any other reason to post this many posts, other than the fact that the Primedice payment is counted only up to 17th?

To other users: I had no intention of hijacking this thread. But since he posted this here, it is my responsibility to post the reply here itself. My apologies.

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Now. Back to the topic.

The latest updates:

1. The Iraqi government remains divided. Today the parliament failed to elect new speaker.

2. Tikrit still under ISIL control.

3 Kurdish forces beaten by ISIL in Diyala.


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: Balthazar on July 01, 2014, 03:25:29 PM
Have I said what I think about these countless hordes of primedice zombies, or not yet?


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: nickenburg on July 01, 2014, 03:36:44 PM
Isis is gettin crazy, i've read that this isis wants to take over:

Iraq
Syria
Iran
And eventually Israel.

And they want a Islamic state where they have taken over.
They already have some parts of Iraq and Syria in there control.
Iran already said they where ready for them.
This could cause WW3


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: niothor on July 01, 2014, 03:41:31 PM
You've got me.....

I am the greatest spammer of all. Besides that I got my punishemnt twice or thrice for constantly bashing altcoin in the altcoin thread :)))

But , again , I never accused other of being paid per posts as you did:

And here's the Devil himself, once you mention him :P

Is he paid per post? The last time I heard, he was getting paid according to the total time logged in. Looking at his artillery barrage, I have a feeling that he will be more useful in the real battle.  ;D


Fact is that at least I never claimed I'm not doing it for money. You did !


Isis is gettin crazy, i've read that this isis wants to take over:

Iraq
Syria
Iran
And eventually Israel.

And they want a Islamic state where they have taken over.
They already have some parts of Iraq and Syria in there control.
Iran already said they where ready for them.
This could cause WW3

No , it won't. It's just another storm in a cup.
We've had 100 bigger reasons for a ww3 till now , not going to happen over a bunch of idiots.





Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: Charlie Prime on July 01, 2014, 03:41:47 PM
This could cause WW3

Be VERY AFRAID Citizen, and keep paying your taxes.


Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 01, 2014, 03:42:27 PM
Isis is gettin crazy, i've read that this isis wants to take over:

Iraq
Syria
Iran
And eventually Israel.

Check the map which I had posted earlier. It was the map released by the ISIL leadership in a hidden website (Daily Mail then reposted it with minor modifications). They will not stop with Iraq, Syria, Iran and Israel (I mean the wider Islamic extremist movement, which includes ISIL). They want to conquer the entire Middle-East, North and Central Africa, Balkans, Iberia, Caucasus, Central Asia, South Asia and South-east Asia.

And ISIL / ISIS is active in the entire Levant region + Iraq. That includes Jordan, Lebanon.etc, as well as parts of Turkey.

Edit: Just noticed that their map excludes the South-east Asian region. (Huge relief for me  ;D). So they don't want to merge Indonesia, Malaysia, and Muslim majority regions of Thailand (Yala, Narathinawat.etc) to their Caliphate? Why?



Title: Re: ISIL declares new 'Islamic caliphate'
Post by: nickenburg on July 01, 2014, 08:12:07 PM
This could cause WW3

Be VERY AFRAID Citizen, and keep paying your taxes.

Well I dont pay taxes and im not afraid, do you know Isis is well funded and where do you think they got the money.
I just recently saw a video about this, where Albert pike predicted 3 world wars, and his first predictions were very on spot way before they even happened.
This is what he said about the thirth:

The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.

I understand Isis is just starting to conquer land, and they are doing it fast and very violently.
And they are doing it very far away from us, so you dont feel threatened at all.
But they have alot of money and they are getting followers fast.
They are demanding that every muslim should follow them.
And today in the Dutch papers there was a picture of some young muslims living in Holland supporting Isis.